I think it’s a fun approach to say, Maybe God was aliens, and they put us here and we learned technology from them. The whole thing is really fascinating. Why not look to the stars? Look beyond this, accept that there’s so much we don’t know and a lot of it could be up there. We’re gonna have this technology in our lifetime. It’s cool to think about. Why not? There’s a ton of astronauts and people at NASA who have spoken about alien existence for years — you don’t see it publicized.
Oh, well: Lifestyles of the rich and famous, you know.
On a completely different note, watching Jeopardy on Friday I was reminded of a fact about Beowulf that made for an interesting challenge for gigantologists and creationists, particularly those of the Nephilim-believing point of view. I’m sure you will recall Bill Cooper, a creationist, has argued that Grendel and Grendel’s mother were in fact dinosaurs and therefore dinosaurs lived beyond the Flood and the Bible is literally true. But oddly enough Beowulf isn’t a favorite among fringe theorists despite the fact that the poem seems to have clear connections to the Nephilim. Why might that be?
Beowulf contains a combination of Christian and pagan elements, and the Christian elements seem to bear close resemblance to the myth of the Nephilim. An ancient sword used to kill Grendel depicts the fall of the Genesis 6 giants and was cast by these monsters:
The flood slew thereafter the race of the giants,
They had proved themselves daring: that people was loth to
The Lord everlasting, through lash of the billows
The Father gave them final requital. (trans. Lesslie Hall)
This should be great news for Nephilim theorists!
But the trouble for Nephilim theorists is that Beowulf doesn’t follow the Nephilim-theorists’ preferred account of fallen angels mating with human women. Instead, it adopts (partially) the euhemerized version of the myth hated by Nephilim theorists whereby the “Sons of God” who mate with the “daughters of men” to produce the Giants in Genesis 6:4 are seen as the godly race of Seth and the sinful race of Cain. To that end, Beowulf describes Grendel and his mother as being descendants of Cain:
The wan-mooded being (Cain) abode for a season
In the land of the giants, when the Lord and Creator
Had banned him and branded. For that bitter murder,
The killing of Abel, all-ruling Father
The kindred of Cain crushed with His vengeance;
In the feud He rejoiced not, but far away drove him
From kindred and kind, that crime to atone for,
Meter of Justice. Thence ill-favored creatures,
Elves and giants, monsters of ocean,
Came into being, and the giants that longtime
Grappled with God; He gave them requital.
Just for fun, here’s one for you. Sir John Mandeville, the fictional medieval author, asserted that Joppa (Jaffa) had been built before the Flood and was home to Greek mythological giants:
And ye shall understand, that it is one of the oldest towns of the world, for it was founded before Noah’s flood. And yet there sheweth in the rock, there as the iron chains were fastened, that Andromeda, a great giant, was bounden with, and put in prison before Noah’s flood, of the which giant, is a rib of his side that is forty foot long. (Chapter 5)