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David Icke Settles Libel Suit, Still Has Lots of Money

3/12/2015

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David Icke has long used anti-Semitic material such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to support his conspiracy theories about Reptilians, but his high wire act balancing crazy alien claims against an undercurrent of anti-Semitism has cost him. According to a press release from Canadian human rights lawyer Richard Warman, Icke has settled a libel suit for $90,000 (Canadian), with stores that carried his book Children of the Matrix (2001) paying an additional $120,000. Warman had sued Icke and several bookstores that carried his work, alleging that Icke had defamed him by alleging that Warman was seeking to suppress Icke’s “exposure” of satanic ritual child abuse. Icke’s attack on Warman followed Warman’s efforts to expose anti-Semitic, racist, and discriminatory material in Icke’s work.
While Warman painted the settlement as a victory that vindicated him and cleared his reputation, the upshot is that the settlement prevents Icke’s work from being analyzed and judged in court.

Icke is not the only conspiracy theorist to have been accused of promoting anti-Semitism under the cover of space aliens or the occult. The German author Jan Van Helsing (a.k.a. Jan Udo Holey) also draws on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and other anti-Semitic works, and he has been convicted in France of inciting racial hatred. His books have been banned in several European countries as a result.

The settlement, while large, will not badly hurt Icke, whose financial empire places him in a suspiciously similar category to the Jewish-Reptilian bankers he despises. The book in question sold more than 55,000 copies, according to Warman, generating at least tens of thousands in royalties. (If he received 10% of the cover price, a standard royalty, he stood to make somewhere between $75,000 and $120,000.) A single stage show in Time Square in 2011 brought in a gross of £94,500 ($140,800) in ticket sales, according to the Daily Mail. Keep in mind that Icke had a large number of books in print and has held much larger stage shows around the world—not to mention his pricey line of David Icke merchandise and the premium memberships he offers to his website. He could probably suffer a libel settlement every couple of years without noticing.

Well, that was depressing.

As a palate cleanser, I thought I’d offer a little more discussion of some of Jacques Vallée’s and Chris Aubeck’s crappy scholarship in Wonders in the Sky (2009). Even though they have a major publisher (Penguin) and, for Vallée, international respect, it’s at least satisfying to see that they lack even basic understanding of their own work, and that their publisher simply didn’t care about the quality of the book. Remember, Penguin described the book as “one of the most ambitious works of paranormal investigation of our time, […] written with rigor.” (Disclosure: Penguin is now part of Penguin Random House, which distributes my Cult of Aliens Gods internationally on behalf of Prometheus Books.)

This time let’s look at the pair’s presentation of two different versions of a passage from Gaimar’s History of the English (lines 5359-5374), whose bibliography they mightily misunderstand:
1854 prose translation 
by Joseph Stevenson

In this year, truly, several people saw a sign; in appearance it was fire: it flamed and burned fiercely in the air; it came near to the earth, and for a little time quite illuminated it; afterwards it revolved and ascended up on high, then descended into the bottom of the sea; in several places it burned woods and plains. No man knew with certainty what this divined, nor what this sign signified. In the country of the Northumbrians this fire showed itself; and in two seasons of one year were these demonstrations.


1889 line by line translation 
by Thomas Duffy Hardy

This year truly
Many folk saw a sign
In likeness of fire it was,
In the air it greatly flamed and burned:
Towards the earth it approached,
For a little it quite lighted up.
Then it revolved above,
Then fell into the deep sea.
In many places it burnt woods and plains.
There was no man who was certain

Nor who knew what this meant,
Nor what this sign portended.
In the country of Northumberland
This fire went about showing itself;
And in one year, in two seasons,
Were these displays.

The two authors then identify the Hardy translation as the “original account,” not recognizing that both translations are renderings of Gaimar’s original Norman French work, itself a translation in verse of Old English originals such as the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. That’s why it’s especially hilarious that they conclude their discussion by asserting that the event was “also mentioned by Geoffrey Gaimar in Lestoire des Engles solum la Translacion Maistre Geffri Gaimar, a 12th century manuscript.” They failed to recognize that this wasn’t a separate book but rather is the modern title of the Norman French manuscript that Hardy and Stevenson translated! In fact, the title they give is the title of Hardy’s edition of the work! They don’t understand this because they know the Hardy translation only from a 1937 excerpt included in a reference work on meteorology by C. E. Britton.

The parallel passage in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle fails to mention the comet, as the authors discuss from the 1937 text. This suggests that it is a fictitious interpolation. But because the authors don’t understand that Gaimar was translating and versifying the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, this conclusion escapes them.

To my interest, the most unusual thing about Gaimar is that he chose to make the Argonauts the opening act in his history of England, though sadly that part of the text does not survive.
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Shane Sullivan
3/12/2015 08:35:30 am

You mention originals "such as the Anglo Saxon chronicles"; are there any other extant originals, and if so, do they include any of this fire-in-the-sky mishegas?

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Jason Colavito link
3/12/2015 08:52:22 am

According to the notes in the critical edition of the text, the passage is derived from the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, so there is no other source that gives this sign in the sky.

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Shane Sullivan
3/12/2015 11:30:01 am

Oh, now I understand. By the way, what is the parallel passage in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle? There are a couple of somewhat similar entries in this translation:

http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/657/pg657.html

...such as the "bloody welkin" in 979, and "the heaven ... all as if it were burning fire" in 1131, but as you said, nothing as dramatic as Gaimar. Or was that part entirely fabricated from whole cloth?

Jason Colavito link
3/12/2015 12:09:50 pm

According to the notes in the various editions, the fire in the sky appears only in Gaimar and not in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, where the parallel section (covering the year 1067) omits it. Some scholars identify Gaimar's light in the sky with a comet recorded by various European, Chinese, and Middle Eastern observers and attributed to the years 1064-1067. It may be the comet recorded for May 1067 in the Chronicon Andegavense 2 and said to mark the death of the Byzantine emperor.

Shane Sullivan
3/12/2015 12:50:05 pm

So, more than just a slight embellishment on the Chronicle, even though it's attributed to the latter. Yeah, that's a pretty big oversight on Valle's and Aubeck's part.

Thank you.

Hypatia
3/12/2015 04:43:43 pm

It does not matter if the fire ascended or descended in the sky, really.

From Huffy's translation of Gaimar, and from Gaimar, the 'comet' sign passage occurs in 1067, just after William comes back to England from Normandy again and holds a festival to celebrate St.Nicholas.

There is no comet in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, but there is fire indeed:
"A.D. 1067. This year came the king back again to England on St.Nicholas's day; and the same day was burned the church of Christ at Canterbury. Bishop Wulfwy also died, and is buried at his see in Dorchester... The king this year imposed a heavy guild on the wretched people; but, notwithstanding, let his men always plunder all the country that they went over."

It looks like many things were lost in translation, reinterpreted and creatively added.

Hypatia
3/13/2015 04:30:25 am

The comet reference is in the Ango-Saxon Chronicle, in 1066, where it coincides there with the coming of King Harold. It was relocated in the Norman-French Anglo-Saxon chronicle to coincide with the return of King William.

"A.D. 1066. This year came King Harold from York to estminster, on the Easter succeeding the midwinter when the king (Edward) died. Easter was then on the sixteenth day before the calends of May. Then was over all England such a token seen as no man ever saw before. Some men said that it was the comet-star, which others denominate the long-hair'd star. It appeared first on the eve called "Litania major", that is, on the eighth before the calends off May; and so shone all the week."
Translation by Rev. James Ingram (London, 1823)

Edmund Gibson's 1692 'Chronicon Saxonicum' in Latin/Old English, available at google.books, has a note at the end of 1066, page 171,"hoc anno, apparuit Cometa XIV. kal. Maii."
I didn't locate the 'as no man ever saw before' thing.

Yomama
3/12/2015 12:39:12 pm

Good video on Warman's tactics:
http://www.mrctv.org/videos/michael-coren-and-ezra-levant-discuss-litigious-richard-warman

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EP
3/12/2015 02:09:00 pm

Clearly David Icke is the victim here. Victim of the global Je-... I mean, Reptilian conspiracy.

LOL

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terry the censor
3/12/2015 05:13:16 pm

Egad, Coren and Levant are right wing hacks, very partisan and pointlessly inflammatory. Not reliable sources of information.
Coren is deeply perturbed that gays are being accepted by society, even complaining about the compassion the public has expressed for AIDS victims (his brand of Catholicism is to talk like a pitiless A-hole). Levant has been sued, admonished and retracted frequently, owing to his fabulist tirades and the left and Muslims. His employer, Sun TV, recently shut down because no one was buying his fear-mongering BS anymore.
Those men are an embarassment to Canada.

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Yomamawamba
3/12/2015 06:53:06 pm

Doesn't mean that Warman isn't a nuisance. Levant at his site goes into greater detail into the former's greatest hits.

http://www.ezralevant.com/richard_warman_goes_after_yet/

He hasn't been sued for it. The facts must be correct.

The reason Icke caved is because he actually did defame Warman in the book, though some of his facts were correct. Also, Icke defames many more people in the book; he couldn't risk drawing attention to all the instances.

terry the censor
3/12/2015 08:20:10 pm

@Yomamawamba

You can't use Levant as a source of information. He has been shown time and again to be an unreliable. Look at the blog post you cite: Levant hates Warman but the Canadian Jewish Congress loves Warman; Levant won't attack the CJC so he argues that Warman isn't really a protector of Jews but rather is a crypto-anti-semite! Levant would have us believe the CJC gives human rights awards to white supremacists?

Yomamawamba, you have made my point perfectly that Levant will write anything to further his agenda. He is a hack by definition.

Yomamawamba link
3/12/2015 09:19:47 pm

hack noun [C] (PERSON)

a person who willingly works or acts mostly for money or other rewards without worrying about independence, beliefs, or reputation

Warman *is* a hack by definition, and not above agitprop.

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http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/chrt/doc/2009/2009chrt10/2009chrt10.html

[63] I do not see any acceptable reason for Mr. Warman to have participated on the Stormfront or Vanguard sites, since there appears to be ample easily obtained messages on these sites available without his involvement. Moreover, it is possible that his activity in this regard, could have precipitated further hate messages in response. His explanation for including other hate messages in his postings by mistake seems very weak to me.
[64] Mr. Warman has, with the assistance of the Commission, instituted most of the s. 13 (1) complaints under the Act that have come before the Tribunal. He has been very successful in these cases and has garnered accolades for his work in this regard. The evidence in this case of his participation on Internet sites similar to the Northern Alliance site is both disappointing and disturbing. It diminishes his credibility. For this reason and because the activities of the Respondents have ceased for a lengthy period of time, I will not make any further Orders in this matter.

"Signed by"
Edward Peter Lustig
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EP
3/13/2015 02:57:38 am

"He hasn't been sued for it. The facts must be correct."

My favorite part of what follows is how you immediately contradict yourself.

terry the censor
3/12/2015 04:51:44 pm

> an undercurrent or anti-Semitism

of

> with stories that carried

stores

> Icke "has held much larger stage shows around the world"

I have not read the court documents Warman posted, but I wonder if the court made a specific finding that Icke's works were indeed anti-Semitic. If so, that might prevent Icke's entry into some countries, and perhaps lose some speaking fees.

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Hypatia
3/13/2015 07:27:52 am

(from wikipedia:)
Halley's comet made its appearance on March 20, 1066, and came within 0.10 AU of Earth at that time. Officially designated 1P/Halley, Halley's comet is a short-period comet visible from Earth every 75–76 years. 'Because its orbit comes close to Earth's in two places, Halley is the parent body of two meteor showers: the Eta Aquariids in early May, and the Orionids in late October.'

Edmond Halley in 1705 "used Newton's new laws to calculate the gravitational effects of Jupiter and Saturn on cometary orbits" and determined that three previous comets were the same object which would return in 1758.

First-century Jewish astronomers already recognized Halley's Comet as periodic: the Talmud refers to "a star which appears once in seventy years that makes the captains of the ships err."

The next perihelion of Halley's comet is predicted for 28 July 2061, at which point, of course, the King of the Chtlumkopfs will either return, be born or die.

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Tony
3/16/2015 04:18:01 am

90,000 Canadian loonies from a certifiable loonie is very apropos.

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Will B
3/18/2015 01:38:29 pm

On his website Icke is painting the outcome as a victory for him as it protects his work in the long term from future legal costs. He also mentions a favorable legal outcome from another case, which I suspect was the legal damages from the Royal Adams case, helping fund this settlement. He also crows about the settlement not admitting liability. He then has a rant about conspiracy "frauds" and about certain people who once worked for him and then turned against him - with his former webmaster being the primary target, though in a sign of David's maturity, Sean's name cannot be uttered.

Particularly interesting is Icke's clearly pragmatic decision to settle. For all hisbtalkmof keeping his work out there Mr Icke is businessman not a prophet...



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Aandelen Kopen link
3/19/2015 06:02:44 pm

Ofcourse he is a business man. He talks about info wich is well known because of older researchers, the writes a book with this common knowledge and acts like a prophet. He is not, he is just a smart businessman.

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Aandelen Kopen link
3/19/2015 06:08:57 pm

Lol these amounts are nothing. David Icke makes millions a year selling his books and giving paid appearances.

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