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L. A. Marzulli and Fritz Zimmerman Hunt Giants in the Grave Creek Mound

5/2/2019

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​It’s been a while since we checked in with Nephilim theorist L. A. Marzulli, who has spent much of the past few months promoting radical right-wing conspiracy theories about politics. But he’s back with a new DVD in his series On the Trail of the Nephilim. This video, billed as Episode 2, covers the “Mathematical Mysteries of the Moundbuilders.” Coming on the heels of Graham Hancock’s new book America Before, which covers much of the same material, it’s like looking to a funhouse mirror version of Hancock, where all of Hancock’s efforts to give credit to Native Americans for at least building on the inheritance of Atlantis have been replaced with an unalloyed Victorian insistence that barbarous Natives couldn’t possibly have piled dirt into earthworks without help from fallen angels and giants.
​In the DVD, Marzulli asserts that there was a distinct race of Mound Builders who were different from the later Native Americans, and he ascribes this lost race to the Nephilim. He further claims that the circle and octagon mounds of Ohio are “the most mysterious” in the Americas, presumably because he doesn’t feel that Native Americans should have understood basic geometry.
 
Fritz Zimmerman, another Nephilim research, appears in the video to “investigate” the Grave Creek mound, an Adena site where the so-called Grave Creek Stone was uncovered in 1839. This stone, which bore a nonsense inscription in strange characters, had been discovered by Abelard B. Tomlinson and Dr. James W. Clemens, a believer in the lost white race theory. Clemens (in all likelihood) had faked the stone because he had expected his mound excavation to turn a profit from the fabulous lost white race treasure buried within. When he found nothing but bones and worthless beads, he faked the stone by carving on it characters from Ensayo sobre los alphabetos de las letras desconocidas (“An Essay on the Alphabets and Unknown Letters”) by Luis José Velázquez de Velasco, marqués de Valdeflores. David Oestreicher demonstrated a decade ago that Clemens had even copied transcription errors from the book.
 
Zimmerman claims that there is something nefarious going on at Grave Creek because the museum at the site has no record of giant skeletons being found in the mound. Nor does anyone else. That’s because there weren’t. But he points to a lithograph of the original Grave Creek museum, which featured a Native skeleton tacked to the wall as the focal point of its display, and claims that the skeleton looks big and therefore was a giant. The site report made at the time of excavation and later recycled for a number of publications does not remark on the bones being of any notable size but instead remarks that they were mostly disarticulated and crushed. I went back and read it again just to be sure.
 
This made me wonder where the idea came from. Clearly, it wasn’t Zimmerman’s original idea. He doesn’t have original ideas. The claim appears all over the internet, but eventually I discovered the direct source when I checked the archived version of Zimmerman’s old Nephilim blog. He got it from an October 22, 1922 article in the Charleston Daily Mail:
One of the most interesting of the five state parks is Mound Park, at Moundsville from which that city derived its name. Probably no other relic of pre-historic origin has attracted as wide study among archaeologists as the Grave Creeks mound which has given up skeletons of the ancients who constructed it.
 
Aside from the mammoth tumulus, itself 69 feet high and 900 feet in circumference, there were originally no fewer than seven mounds situated in the broad plain at the point. None was nearly equal to the one now standing, and the locations of most of the smaller ones are now lost to all excepting a few.
 
Archaeologists investigating the mound some years ago dug out a skeleton said to be that of a female because of the formation of the bones. The skeleton was seven feet four inches tall and the jawbone would easily fit over the face of a man weighing 160 pounds.
 
That the women of that ancient day were not unlike the woman of today in their liking for finery was evidenced by the articles that were found beside the skeleton of what centuries ago was a “flapper.” Seventeen hundred ivory beads, 500 seashells of an involute species and five copper bracelets were found in the vault. The beads and shells were about the neck and breast of the skeleton while the bracelets were upon the arms.
​Most of the details in the article are taken almost verbatim from the original site report, but where the newspaper writer got the idea that there was a seven-foot-four skeleton in the mound is a whole other story. The answer doesn’t come from the original site reports or the later scientific literature on the mound. Instead, it comes from an 1876 letter written by P. B. Catlett almost forty years after the fact relating his memory of being present during the excavation of the mound:
I would say that the engraved stone was found in the inside of a stone arch that was found in the middle of the mound, and in that stone arch was found a skeleton that measured seven feet and four inches. When the bones were placed upon wires, I took the lower jawbone, and put it over my chin, and it did not touch my face, and I was at that time a man who weighed one hundred and eighty-one pounds.
​Obviously, there are some problems here. First, the excavator is recalling events of four decades previous without reference to written records or the bones in question. His account does not agree with the contemporary accounts from the 1839 excavation, nor with the testimony of others present at the time. This was noted even in the nineteenth century discussions of Grave Creek testimony. A lawyer who questioned Catlett a few years later found that Catlett had confused some events and misreported others. Although he was not questioning Catlett about the skeleton but rather the stone, his efforts demonstrated that Catlett’s account was a reconstruction of the past rather than an accurate record of it. Beyond this, the jawbone trick was understood as an illusion even in the early twentieth century. Because the jawbone is parabolic, it will easily fit over a living person’s chin and appear to be bigger, even though it is not.
 
In fact, the early twentieth century debunking of this claim by Gerard Fowkes in the Archaeological History of Ohio (1902) ought to be quoted in full:
It is a very common newspaper statement that a Mound Builder has been dug up somewhere “whose jawbone will slip over that of a large man.” Sometimes the man elevates the marvelous into the miraculous by having a growth of “remarkably heavy whiskers.”
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It is not necessary to procure a Mound Builder in order to perform this feat; the phenomenon is equally apparent with any other full grown human jaw. It may be observed, also, in curved or open-angle objects generally, having approximately the same form and thickness: as spoons, saucers, miter-joints, gutter-spouts, or slices of melon rinds. The significance is as great in one case as in the others. The experimenter has failed to perceive a considerable interval between the end, or angle, of the jaw which he held in his hand and the one with which it was being compared. He should invert the former and apply it to the lower part of the latter, when he would find much less difference than he expected. Even should the Mound Builder’s jaw exceed in size that of the modern white man, it does not follow that his entire skeleton was on a corresponding scale. Mastication of tough or coarse food promotes growth of the necessary organs; if muscles are strong and large the bones to which they are attached must be heavy enough to meet the strain upon them. For this reason both maxillaries may attain proportions much in excess of other parts of the skull.
 
Frequently this development affects the teeth as well; the prominent chin brings the upper and lower incisors to the same vertical line, allowing the edges to impinge instead of overlapping, so that the crowns of all the teeth alike wear off flat in practically the same plane. Many persons who have noticed the fact, without reflecting upon its cause, that “the front teeth are flat instead of sharp,” deem it ample evidence that the “Mound Builders had double teeth all around, a peculiarity which distinguishes them from all other known races.” Others, better informed, suppose the amount of wear thus manifest must indicate the attainment of an extreme age. As a rule, this would be true; but nothing has been found to show that the Mound Builders had any methods of preparing food which were superior to those in vogue among later Indians, and it must be conceded that a diet of parched corn, bread made from grains and nuts crushed on a stone mortar or with a stone pestle and baked in ashes, meat cooked on coals with a liberal admixture of sand and silt or boiled in water heated by dropping red-hot stones into it — would not require more than an ordinary life time to wear out the hardest teeth that can develop as long as lime is the chief component in them.
10 Comments
Andy White
5/2/2019 09:00:00 am

Those pesky "double teeth" again.

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Accumulated Wisdom
5/2/2019 03:39:31 pm

I wish, I had read your article before sitting through several episodes of bull. Two brothers in a tunnel enamored with a "zippuh".

The men who mentored me, felt there was a common hoaxer of giant skeletons. Their idea was someone robbing a family grave of skulls and mixing with Mastodon bones. They were hung up on the double row of teeth too. "It had to be a family trait".

The discovery of Cherchen Man seems to be behind the resurgence of giants. He's only 6 ft 6 in tall.

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Machala
5/2/2019 10:41:10 am

So now Marzulli has momentarily ceased desecrating Peruvian gravesites in favor of obsessing on the Ohio octagons and mounds.
The good people of the Andes of Peru and Ecuador pray that he never returns to darken their toilet paper again with his Nephilim bullshit.

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Marzulli
5/2/2019 12:10:42 pm

Even Marzulli is not bad as the PLO

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E.P. Grondi9ne
5/2/2019 12:40:07 pm

Hi Jason -

Thanks for the detaailed backgrounder on the Grave Creek Stone, This inscription has always been something of a mystery for me, as the horizontal lines were used in the Mediterranean, and I knew of no finding or publication of any tablets illustrating this feature at the time of the Grave Creek excavation.

As far as the tall skeletons goes, it's no mystery. They were Andaste (Adena):
https://archive.org/stream/characterofprovi00alsorich/characterofprovi00alsorich_djvu.txt

As documented by Jason Jarrell and Sarah Farmer, their skeletons had often been found. (Jason and Sarah have another volume of finds that they are preparing for publication.

Now why these heathen authors should confuse the Andaste with the Nephilim, who the bible states lived half a world away, it must simply be that they don't read their bibles.

Or if they do, they may have problems understanding clear language.

For an introduction to the X mt DNA haplogroup, see:
https://youtu.be/TbM4vHcRyz0

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P.D.Q. Grenadine
5/2/2019 02:41:05 pm

As far as the tall skeletons go, it's no mystery. They didn't exist. They issue you see, is that to prove they exist you'd have to produce one.

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Riley V
5/2/2019 04:16:12 pm

A 7’ 6” Flapper? Well break out the Bathtub Gin and dance the Grizzly Bear. She sounds like fun. I wonder if she likes muggles.

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Caden M
5/3/2019 06:14:46 pm

You’ve apparently not done enough digging into Grave Creek. Although being able to record the personal journals of the people that excavated it originally isn’t something the average public gets to do, this article is way off.

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Doc Rock
5/3/2019 08:27:54 pm

How is it way off?

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1800s Guy
5/6/2019 12:20:20 am

Would you bid us also read the personal journals of Konrad Kujau?

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