That ought to put to rest any doubts about Wolter’s intentions vis-à-vis Europeans influence in America versus those of non-European peoples.
Instead, let me focus on what is new in this two-hour free-association interview.
The host asks Wolter if secret societies have given him “pushback,” but Wolter says that the secret societies support his work and believe he is on the right track. Instead, Wolter says that the “Roman Church” has the most to fear from him but have not moved against him because of their financial and sex abuse scandals. He asserts, in reference to the Holy Bloodline Conspiracy, that “they know what I’m talking about, and they know it’s true.” Much later he will imply that the Bloodline families planned the clergy sex abuse scandal, which is as outrageous as it is irresponsible.
Wolter says that he would be a “fool to deny” that there is a “cosmic” aspect of life, and he says that we recently moved through “one of the most profound” astrological changes in our history when the precession of the equinoxes switched our governing sign in keeping with the Mayan Calendar on December 21, 2012. He is here referring to the slow drift of the stars, which every 2,160 years change the constellation against which the sun rises on the spring equinox. “The changing of the ages throughout history has had a profound impact on the history of mankind and religion,” he said, attributing to pictures in the sky a range of human cultural achievements. As a point of fact, the precession of the equinoxes was traditionally marked by the spring equinox, not the winter solstice, and there is no evidence for any recognition of ruling houses of astrological ages prior to the Greek adoption of Babylonian astronomy in the Hellenistic period. Astrologers can’t even agree when the Age of Aquarius supposedly begins, with different astrologers placing its start anywhere from 1447 to 3597 CE. The current scientific definition of the “edges” of constellations, adopted in 1929, would start the Age of Aquarius in 2600 CE. So far as I know, no one identified December 21, 2012 as the start of the Age of Aquarius prior to the invention of the Mayan calendar apocalypse myth in the 1960s. “People have no idea, no concept, of how much it has impacted our world,” Wolter said.
Wolter again asserts that “certain powers in religion and politics” know the true history of North America and are purposely suppressing this truth. Wolter gives a confusing statement in which he says that Native Americans know the truth about the Knights Templar but that “nobody” (except him) is talking to them and that the U.S. government committed genocide against them for what he seems to imply were conspiratorial reasons involving a cover-up of Templar truths. Logically speaking, this makes no sense since (a) the genocide was not complete enough to eliminate the Templar “facts” Wolter supposedly recovered from Native peoples, and (b) if the Freemasons are really Templar adjuncts and secretly run America, why would they want to cover up their own right to power? After discussing his conversations with Native Americans, Wolter amends his statement to suggest that the Native Americans refuse to speak about the Templars because of the genocide, but this is confusing again since it would seem that if this information were so threatening to their oppressors Native Americans would want it publicized as far and wide as possible. The logic just doesn’t follow. A few minutes later, he changes the story a bit more and this time talks of “one of the conveniences” of genocide: “you get rid of the witnesses” to the Templar involvement in American history, “and you get rid of the Bloodline.” We will get to that bizarre idea in a moment.
Wolter falsely asserts, again, that the Midewin rituals of the Ojibwa are “identical” to “Knights Templar rituals. Identical.” (He emphasizes “identical” at least three times.) This is a step up from his previous claim, which was that they were parallel to Freemason rituals, something I showed to be almost certainly wrong last year. Claiming them as Templar rituals eliminates the requirement for proof since we have no reliable records of the details of Templar rituals for comparison. But I doubt that the Templar rituals involved training in medicinal plant usage, the focus of the Midewin ritual. (Chances are that Wolter is conflating the Knights Templar with the Freemason order of the same name, even though they are unrelated.)
He then complains that archaeologists “can’t say anything without using a big word.” Wolter is just folks, you know.
At this point the host tells Wolter that many believe that Native Americans are the descendants of a race of ancient astronauts from outer space called Star People, whom we have seen before on Ancient Aliens. Wolter seems to misunderstand the point, not recognizing that Star People are space aliens, and instead says he’s “been told that the Templars came over here and they intentionally brought the Bloodline [of Jesus] and put it into the Natives so it would be protected.” Just try unpacking that sentence. It sounds like Wolter envisions the Templars as running some kind of perverted breeding program where Jesus-spawn are sent out to stud. (Assuming the Templars brought males for efficiency.) “In times to come, that will be vetted out by science,” he asserts. Now we see why Wolter is so interested in Steve St. Clair’s DNA project. Did Native women have a choice when these Templar studs “saw the daughters of men that they were fair” (Genesis 6:2)?
I find it intriguing that almost by osmosis Wolter has come to adopt a modified form of the Watchers myth from Genesis 6:1-4 and the Book of Enoch as his template for the Templar heritage: The sons of God (descended this time from the literal son of God) travel to a new land, cross-breed with people from another race, and produce a hybrid people (the current Native Americans), to whom are attributed secret knowledge and advanced spiritual powers. The time and place and people have changed, but the template is exactly the same. I found this the single most interesting part of his interview.
“They did it with them as a preemptive strike because they knew what was coming,” Wolter said, and I picked out that line because it unintentionally turned this discussion into a weird, pun-filled porno version of America Unearthed.
The Templars, he said, “warned the Natives that the Christians were coming and that it wasn’t going to be good”—this is in the 1400s—and Wolter said that the Templars bonded with the Natives through their shared experience of violent repression at the hands of the Catholic Church. It seems that for Scott Wolter, history is the story of spiritual truth trying to escape from the institutional control of Catholicism. I’m not quite sure how the fact that the United States was virulently anti-Catholic for more than a century plays into this.
The invading Christians and then the U.S. government killed the Natives, he said, to suppress the Jesus Bloodline. “And don’t think that that wasn’t known.” It was all “part of the plan,” he said. That plan (and do not try to make sense of this) was masterminded by the Cistercian Order, which he said was not in fact Catholic but instead “the greatest coup d’état in history, which the world still doesn’t understand.” Except, of course, Scott Wolter. He says that the Cistercians were formed by the “Bloodline Families” to infiltrate the Church and destroy it, a destruction he asserts has “come to fruition” right now. He comes dangerously close here to asserting that the Bloodline Families engaged in ritual child abuse to destroy the Catholic Church through pedophile sex scandals.
Again, I am deeply confused by why Wolter feels that the Cistercians and the U.S. government, which he asserts is controlled by Templar-Freemasons, “got rid of the Bloodline” by eradicating the Native Americans that the Templars supposedly hybridized with magic Jesus genes. Remember: The Indian Removal Act and the Trail of Tears were the effort of Andrew Jackson, and Jackson was a Freemason! Did the Cistercian-Templar-Freemasons change allegiances at some point? Or is there a super-conspiracy that’s trying to suppress lesser conspiracies? Or is this all because of the magic power of astrology, which somehow changes everyone’s beliefs when the “stars are right”?
According to Wolter, the Cistercian-Bloodline Families controlled France and used their position to force Napoleon into the Louisiana Purchase to exercise their Templar land claim to the Mississippi watershed, a land claim that the British (?) had somehow denied them by virtue of… what exactly? They weren’t Catholic, so I don’t see how they fit into the Catholic conspiracy. It isn’t clear. But somehow everyone recognizes America as the new Holy Land, the promised land of the new covenant or some such. Wolter says that his grand conspiracy “makes all the sense in the world.” He claims that “These Bloodline families are still around. They’re basically running the world. … I know this is right.” Except, of course, when they’re not.
After the break, and at the halfway point, the show opened the floor to questions from the audience. During this, the host brings up monoatomic gold, the imaginary food consumed by Sitchinite space aliens, and Wolter goes right along with it! “Now you’re getting into the ancient Egyptian stuff!” he says. “I love it!” He doesn’t realize, however, that she’s talking about aliens so he suggests that there could be an episode of America Unearthed based on the aliens’ magic food. I presume he is confusing monatomic gold with colloidal gold, a solution of nanoparticles (not single atoms) known since Antiquity.
During the Q-and-A he again reiterates his contempt for the Catholic Church, which he considers a fraudulent religion, and he asserts that the Vatican has profound and continuing “influence” over the Smithsonian, which he labels as “corrupt.” He asserts that the Smithsonian, potentially on Vatican orders, is hiding the skeletons of giants. He also wonders if the Druids had “influence” on the Mound Builders, and he now claims that the Templars obtained “fresh” silver from the Americas, and that Columbus and the Spaniards learned about America from the Templars (“it’s so obvious!”). Columbus, of course, conveniently hid that fact by pretending that he didn’t realize America was not Asia.
“How many cultures do you think came her pre-Columbian?” the host asks. “Everybody,” Wolter says. “Everybody!” A few minutes later he added, “speculation [is] really, really fun!” At least someone is having fun.