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The head of Donald Trump's UAP Science Advisory Council, Harvard astronomer turned ufologist Avi Loeb, claimed that a former Lockheed Martin executive confirmed the recovery of crashed flying saucers. Speaking on the Fresh Freedom podcast of Congressional UFO enthusiast Rep. Eric Burlison, Loeb claimed that the revelation occurred when the former executive visited Loeb's house for a casual UFO chat, as one does. “I had a [former] high level executive from Lockheed Martin visit my home and I asked him, ‘Is there any truth to these claims?’ And he said ‘It’s not wrong,'” Loeb told Burlison. Of course, that is no proof, and we already know from declassified documents that the Department of Defense and defense contractors had programs that worked to retrieve crashed Soviet technology, so it is entirely possible that the ex-Lockheed official was merely referring to these efforts rather than alien spaceships. Loeb did not name the former executive, of course, because that might have led to accountability and action, and we cannot have that. The encounter apparently yielded nothing of value since Loeb said it occurred many years ago, and Loeb never bothered to mention it, nor apparently to provide any information to Congress about it.
I will add that it is kind of crazy how many high-ranking people show up at Loeb's house for a hang. He has repeatedly claimed that government officials and powerful business leaders randomly come to call at his house, and it's a bit baffling why they show up like that rather than call on the phone or email him. Loeb described his UAP committee as his own idea, and he described the members, many of whom are in their 40s, 50s, and 60s and have been involved in ufology for years, as composed of "young people" with "fresh" perspectives. Loeb also praised Donald Trump for his sincerely and not so subtly goaded the president by saying Trump would be remembered for "millennia" if he were to confirm the existence of space aliens. Loeb participated in the podcast with Hal Puthoff, the two chummy as they smiled and joked about what their colleagues described as the interdimensional threat of terror demons that could obliterate humanity at any time. You know, fun times!
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An Over-Educated Grunt
7/4/2026 02:45:31 pm
Alternately, he meant "it's not wrong" in the Wolfgang Pauli sense.
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Mean R Queried
7/5/2026 01:31:36 am
Yes, that could be what he meant. In case somebody does not know what that expression means, here is its Rational Wiki page.
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An Over-Educated Grunt
7/5/2026 03:35:18 pm
I was thinking more that one does not insult one's host by telling him he's spouting nonsense, but Wolfgang Pauli's answer is, under the circumstances, diplomatic.
kent
7/5/2026 04:45:26 pm
I'm not opposed to links {i}per se{/i}, but but links-happy posters here keep going back to the Bottomless Well of Nonsense.
Mean R Queried
7/4/2026 07:29:21 pm
Is Donald Trump still feuding with Harvard over antisemitism?
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Luke
7/6/2026 11:21:03 am
I don't know how you spend your free time Jason. But I can assure you that powerful people showing up to tell me some crazy shit is pretty normal. I just can't prove it, for reasons. If I told you what I learned yesterday it would blow your mind. I suspect most of your regular readers can confirm it's the same for them.
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