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In Brief: You’ll Never Guess What This “Crashed UFO” Debris Isn't: Extraterrestrial

7/13/2024

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​Regular readers will remember the many claims To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and its affiliated ufologists made about pieces of metal they claim to be likely debris from crashed flying saucers. TTSA ufologists like Hal Puthoff claimed that one of the most important pieces of supposed evidence, the infamous magnesium-bismuth fragment of a crashed 1947 flying saucer (pictured at left), had impossibly advanced properties, including “inertial mass reduction” and may have a “metamaterial” used for interdimensional travel as a “terahertz waveguide.” When TTSA first hyped the piece, I suggested it was a chunk of industrial waste, accounting for its unusual composition. 
The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office sent it to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory for testing in 2022. The report recently came back—yes, it took two years—and determined that the material was not able to function as a “terahertz waveguide,” and its isotopic composition was completely normal for Earth, not, as TTSA claimed, extraterrestrial. They could not identify a purpose for the uncommon composition of the earthly, heat-damaged fragment, but that’s probably because it never had a purpose. They suggest it is consistent with experiments of the time, without naming them. In short, it's probably a piece of scientific or industrial waste.
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Clete
7/13/2024 02:27:59 pm

Industrial waste having no real usage. Sounds a lot like the congress of the United States.

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Kent
7/13/2024 08:59:55 pm

It's like someone found a poop in an area where there were legends of grocery stores and called it food. Insert South Park reference to Martha Stewart. Shoutout to all the terahertz homies but everything, even "terahertz waveguides"(show me just one if they exist) emits terahertz radiation. It is notable for doing very little.

I want a terahertz waveguide with the full Johnson Rod Package. "What is that?" you ask? Sounds like you don't know much about terahertz waveguides. Of course one must mention Mitchell Buchanan's team out of Pepperdine, the aptly named 'Bu Radleys, but I get all my waveguide guidance from the Instituto de Janeiro team of Jobim et al. I think Feymann may have collaborated with them during his year teaching in Brasil.

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Prospero45
7/17/2024 03:23:57 am

Jesus, I didn't think it was even possible, but your comments are becoming even more obtuse and tedious.

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Kent
7/19/2024 01:44:21 am

Becoming which and what now? As my Calc III (math for babies but I was grandfathered in) TA said to the smart guy in class "I'm not teaching you, I'm teaching them." Similarly, you may put your hand down now. Slowly. Rhythmically. Tiny Dancer.

I understand your consternation because those cats were fast as lightning but I'll be there won't let you out of my sight. Let me count you out like the teenage manager at your second job, anna two anna five anna one! No, it's not a TIA, stays 72 come shine or rain. Just my Lombardo acting up. Don't wanna be the punchline to the question about the guy who aggravated Guy. Tiny bubbles was all that was left, the baddest part of town, in the ghett-o.

Sorry to make you read ajacquelinekennedybouvierbove your grade level in the middle of your black panther tupperhose party.

doc rock
7/13/2024 10:16:52 pm

Aliens have the technology to travel to earth from a kajillion miles away without being detected and/or they have the capacity to come and go from another dimension at will or from their uber secret base in the hollow portion of earth. We are talking "beam me up Scotty" level of quick acting shit. They apparently place a high value on doing this without alerting humanity. So, one would think that they would either never crash, or, if they did they would have the capacity to clean up the evidence before the black choppers show up to collect things for the double ought top secret gubmint lab. Or it is supernatural, Samantha twitches her nose and makes something disappear, level stuff. Yet someone is always showing up waving what looks like stuff that you would find in the trash bin behind a high school shop class and want everyone to believe that it is recovered UFO wreckage?

Logic that makes the kiddie table and the poison ivy and comets bunch seem like Rhodes scholars.

Nightcap time. Will give my new Major Tom cocktail invention another go....

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Spacemade Hot Cakes
7/14/2024 02:39:38 pm

Looks more like the buckwheat pancake allegedly made by an extraterrestrial. Hopefully I still own the book with a picture of the dude holding it up. The look on the man's face is priceless from what I recall. I'll have to dig through storage later today and find out.

Do you recall anything about the story of a man who saw extraterrestrials land and then shared buckwheat pancakes with him?

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Hot Sex Spring Break Space Cakes
7/15/2024 04:46:04 pm

Did your stepson ever return your big hardcover book on Freemasonry and the stars that he used to clean pot on? What makes that a lie is pot hasn't required "cleaning" in quite a while and no one ever used books for it. The Whole Earth Catalog provided good toilet paper, in a pinch. The lying is the saddest thing about this case.

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Extraterrestrial House of Pantcakes
8/2/2024 12:15:56 am

Sorry to hear your Chia pet ran away, Again.

Robert J Furey
7/15/2024 09:46:26 pm

I thought that I read somewhere that the unusual bismuth/ magnesium structure was the result of a lead purifying process used in that area in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The process that was discontinued in the early 1920's.

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Kent
7/18/2024 01:07:15 pm

Relics. Provenance schmovenance. Put things in a box. Ipso facto auto relics. Picked up some crap? Put it in a box. Colors. Uh, I mean relics. Relics. For analysis. Later. Tomb of the Unknowns is the exact opposite, they explicitly say "We got no freakin' idea who it is". I hear Grant's Tomb is a prom night hotspot. And the question remains. And they question remains.

UFO beliefology has a spectrum, some like LMH (and some LIKE LMH!) accord it the ontological status of the Holy Book of Vatican Law which is kept in the Smithsonian, others enjoy it as play like their grandparents and hula hoops. Tom DeLonge got some money out of it and in fact has a connection to this case. The Space Brothers wanted him to have that money. Hey! Idea! Hula Hoop Dodgeball for old people! Move over Pickleball.

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