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Malaysian Professor Claims Romans Learned Shipbuilding from Malay Peoples

11/10/2025

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​Professors at the International Islamic University Malaysia are urging the school’s administrators to investigate associate professor Solehah Yaacob, claiming the lecturer in Arabic brought the school into disrepute by claiming that the Romans learned the art of shipbuilding from the ancient Malays in a social media video originally shot in 2022 but which went viral last month. “The credibility of our institution depends on the integrity, accountability and professionalism of its academic staff,” faculty wrote in a social media post last week.
​“My hypothesis, grounded in classical Arabic sources, proposes that the Romans acquired aspects of the art of shipbuilding from the peoples of the Malay Archipelago,” Yaacob said in a statement posted to Facebook this week, repeating a claim she first made in a lecture at Gombak Setia Mosque on December 31, 2022.
 
Yaacob described the negative reaction from news organizations and online commentators as a “media lynching,” writing that “I have been ridiculed on social media, in tabloids, and by official news outlets” and doubling down on her assertion that her ideas are rooted in solid literary evidence.
 
However, the evidence proffered in English-language news accounts seems less that compelling. Yaacob claimed his proof could be found in Pierre-Yves Manguin’s 1980 article “The Southeast Asian Ship: An Historical Approach” in the Journal of Southeast Asian Studies and Richard L. Smith’s 2008 book Premodern Trade in World History. Manguin concluded that Southeast Asian oceangoing vessels emerged in “the first few centuries of the first millennium A.D.,” which would be long after the Romans were sailing the Mediterranean. The oldest evidence he cites is from the third century CE, from a Chinese text.
 
Smith is the better choice. He devotes significant space to Malay sailing and notes that the Malay people may have been the first to discover how to sail across the ocean, which he places “sometime in the first millennium BCE.” He also describes the Malay establishing trade relationships and settlements in East Africa, Madagascar, and possibly on the southwest side of the Arabian Peninsula opposite Africa. However, he cautions that these cannot be dated securely and estimates vary greatly. He adds that the Malay only began to sail “a full half ocean” in the first century CE.
 
The evidence Yaacob found in Smith is a bit of a leap though. Smith cites Pliny (Natural History 6.83) describing the star-based open-water navigation techniques of sailors from Ceylon. Unfortunately for Yaacob, in the very next sentence (6.84) Pliny states that the information was not provided directly to the Romans but instead he extracted it from old Greek accounts from Megasthenes and Eratosthenes.
 
I suppose one might argue diffusion from Malay to India to the Mediterranean, but that’s probably less easy to prove than Yaacob thinks. It doesn’t help that some of her “evidence” is simply old newspaper reports—which are notoriously unreliable, especially for ancient history:
 
“Historical newspaper reports even record the striking statement: ‘The first man to sail around the world was a Malay’,” she added.
 
That’s a bit deceptive. The quotation refers to a story about Enrique of Malacca, a Malay slave of Ferdinand Magellan, who completed the trip around the world that Magellan himself did not. This has nothing to do with prehistoric navigation.
 
But here’s the kicker: Those “classical Arabic” sources Yaacob was talking about are the real backbone of her claim, and the pseudoscience has nothing to do with actual scientific evidence for Malay ocean navigation. Instead, it’s a bizarre religious argument about shipbuilding in the time of Noah’s Ark, as Yaacob explained in an interview published in Malay.
 
Yaacob said that her 2022 lecture was about the genealogy of human descent from Adam to the Prophet Muhammad, and how the prophetic lineage sparked world civilizations.
 
“My research findings show that the first major maritime voyage in human history occurred during the time of Prophet Noah, involving a very large area of the world,” she told a Malay-language news outlet. Yaacob cited a long-ago British theologian, Thomas Brightwell (the Victorian one, not the more famous medieval one), who in Notes on the Pentateuch (1840) traced the Malay to the Ishmaelites and thus back to one of the sons of Noah.
 
Along the way, Yaacob argued that the Romans had no major maritime activities before 31 BCE, the date of the sea-based Battle of Actium, and thus acquired their skills at the time of Malay maritime expansion (which somehow waited more than a thousand years after Noah!). This is obviously untrue. The Romans had boasted a massive fleet since 264 BCE, when they constructed warships to attack Carthage. It is true, though, that the Romans did not sail beyond the Mediterranean in any major way before the last decades of the first century BCE.
 
Yaacob said that based on medieval Arabic histories, such as those of al-Biruni and al-Kindi, which placed the origin of iron smelting in the land of what the news report called “Qal’a al-Rūmī or al-Sharbuqān” on the Malay peninsula, we should therefore conclude that the Romans got their iron from the Malay peninsula and picked up the art of shipbuilding from their trips there. She did not explain how the Romans got to the Malay peninsula without ships. The overland route would be a rather long way to go for iron, especially if one did not already know it was there.
 
Either Yaacob or the news report got the facts jumbled up; in his study of iron, al-Biruni uses sharbuqān to mean a type of hard iron, not a place name. He gives the place name as Kalah, and the swords as Qala after it. Al-Kindi does use “Qalai” (Kalah) as a place name, but not to refer to prehistoric iron smelting. He says it is one of three places where fine-quality iron swords were made in the tenth century CE. (Unmentioned by Yaacob, the traveler Misar ibn Muhalil also reported the same in mid-tenth century CE.) Archaeologically speaking, the iron industry in what is now Kedah (ancient Kalah) can possibly be traced back to the sixth century BCE, which is long after the Greeks and Romans had iron. (The sources, primarily by Malay scholars, are often poorly translated and give conflicting dates, some c. 535 BCE and others 60 CE, due to a lack of physical evidence until quite recently; the latest scholarship, which is disputed, dates smelting to the sixth century BCE and the iron trade to sometime before the first century CE.)
 
Comparing herself to Giordano Bruno, who was burned at the stake, Yaacob said she was a martyr for academic freedom, enduring untold pain and suffering because her ideas have been ridiculed on social media. “My hypothesis concerning the achievements of the Malays and the borrowings of the Romans may be right or wrong. However, in both our academic and Islamic traditions, we are taught to respect differing opinions.”

That seems reasonable, but Yaacob also stated on the Gabungan Nasionalis podcast that the ancient Malay people could fly and shared their secret flying powers with the Chinese.
23 Comments
Alison
11/10/2025 10:08:20 am

You missed that this scholar also said Malays could fly

https://www.scoop.my/news/269864/no-malays-could-not-fly-scholars-call-out-pseudohistory/

The 6th-century BCE date for iron smelting is also problematic and has been disputed numerous times in peer review, but the authors tried numerous journals until they found one that would publish it.

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kenT
11/10/2025 05:44:20 pm

Alison, cool thee thy jets! You confuse iron with steel, but metal isn't really lady stuff so that's understandable but did you not read the last paragraph where the reviewer addresses flying? No need to trouble yourself with this Miss. Surely there's some mending or tatting or needlework that needs doing?

Jason raises the interesting question of how did the Malays get to Rome or vice versa. I'd like to know how the colored fellas got to Australia. Steel was invented in several places in the neighborhood of 500 years BCE, so iron must have already been sussed out previously. And I don't mean meteoric iron.

Whether the lady Professor is incompetent or just adhering to the culture of her *Islamic* university remains an open question. I see no reason it couldn't be both.

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William
11/11/2025 04:38:31 am

Do you think such language should really be acceptable?

William
11/11/2025 04:45:31 am

Re: "Metal isn't really lady stuff so that's understandable"

I'm sure you think that made you sound well informed For your information the first evidence of iron smelting comes from the Hittites in Anatolia 17th century BC, the king Anitta gave iron gifts to the king of Burushanda.

Alison
11/11/2025 03:20:19 pm

Seems like Jason made some edits to his text after I posted my comments. I believe there is one early 6th-century BCE date for iron smelting at Kedah and it is not clear the date itself is related to the iron smelting activities. Early dates have been criticized by other Malay scholars.

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/95835/bujang-valley-revised-dating-narrative-towards-unesco-listing-of-ancient-maritime-site

Iron technology didn't reach Southeast Asia until the late centuries BCE.

Jason Colavito link
11/11/2025 03:59:57 pm

The only thing I changed was to add "disputed" to the 6th century BCE date for clarity. The rest stayed the same.

Kent
11/11/2025 05:48:06 pm

"[a)] I believe there is one early 6th-century BCE date for iron smelting at Kedah and
[b)] it is not clear the date itself is related to the iron smelting activities."

- Super not clear brah. Which is it a) or b)? And the point is?

"Kedah's iron smelting industry, concentrated in the Sungai Batu Archaeological Complex (SBAC), was a major prehistoric hub dating back to at least the 6th century BC."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003552124001328

Another view: "Iron smelting evidence dates to around 500 BCE at Ban Chiang, Thailand [land border with Malaysia, which is not Singapore just so everyone's on the same page]. Other sites, like Non Nok Tha, have produced iron artifacts and smelting debris from around 300 BCE."

kent
11/11/2025 11:06:32 am

Thank you Betty Friedan for that hot new information.
Melonfarming women's libbers.

Again: jets.

Again: conflating iron and steel.

Again: tatting.

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William
11/12/2025 06:37:13 am

You have failed to address my central point, which is that king Anitta of Kanesh gave presents of smelted iron to the King of Burushanda in the 1600s BC long before you claim the Iron Age began.

Kent
11/12/2025 04:35:40 pm

I didn't fail to address anything. I'm ignoring anything you say because your reading comprehension is well below grade level.

You can say "Want some? Come get some!" all day long but my programs are on.

William
11/14/2025 06:23:05 am

What a brilliant display on f your IGNORANCE Kent. Care to continue with your agenda if proving to us all what a white supremacist and misogynist lout you are

William
11/14/2025 06:25:22 am

White supremacism and misogyny go hand in hand with homosexuality. You're a homosexual Kent, and that's why you talk as you do about blacks and women. Maybe you can still pretend we don't have your number as you being queer EIFL

Kent
11/15/2025 09:17:49 pm

Oh William. Every once in a while the internet serves up a softball such as you and it's "Teacher found hisself another city boy" Tuesday.

As Bob Barker famously said "What do we have for William?"
You've figured me out, I do hate Negroes and I hate women. Those guys can go screw as long as the spice keeps on flowing. Homegrown, on the phone, all the channels show the same old war zone. As I walk alone in the city, think of me enuff and now don't you look pretty?

You are quite right to hate homosexuals, they are the worst people ever and should be exterminated. Ausrottung.

Seriously dude, you are a mental patient apparently put here by JHVH-1 to amuse me. We gotta get some meat into you PRONTO!

I told you 'bout living in the U.S. of A.
Don't you know that I'm a gangster of love
Let me tell you people that I found a new way
And I'm tired of all this talk about love
And the same old story with a new set of words
About the good and the bad and the poor
And the times keep on changin'
So I'm keepin' on top
Of every fat cat who walks through my door

Spinal Tap should be remade to reflect that there's something beyond full retard. Name it after a hobbit meal, "Elevenses".

William
11/20/2025 08:30:01 pm

Good, the sheer number of us ought to keep you amused for quite some time

Clete
11/10/2025 04:00:18 pm

I doubt that being burned at the stake like Girodano Bruno is worse than being roasted on social media.

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William
11/10/2025 07:24:40 pm

Learned shipbuilding? How preposterous. One need merely point out that the Phoenicians were master shipbuilders long before that, and the "Sea peoples" causing havoc around 1200 BC had certainly acquired the technique.

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Adrianus Luca
11/11/2025 05:22:44 am

Reminds me of Hindu nationalists and their ridiculous claims about ancient Indians and their vimanas.

But then so many Americans still insist Benjamin Franklin discovered electricity and Thomas Edison invented the light bulb.

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Crash55
11/11/2025 06:18:07 pm

Edison invented the first lightbulb with a carbon filament. It was the first practical lightbulb and the first example of what an ordinary person would consider a lightbulb. Yes others had demonstrated light via electricity but Edison’s was the first practical version.

Franklin did experiments with electricity. The key experiment showed that lightning was electricity.


So saying that Edison invented the light bulb is accurate at a basic level.

Franklin is much more of a stretch and I have never seen it actually taught. The kite experiments are a fun story that people have exaggerated

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Adrianus Luca
11/12/2025 04:18:54 pm

Lol, no Edison did not invent the first light bulb with a carbon filament. That happened decades before Edison, in Belgium.

I don't know why people like you persist with these claims that are easily debunked with a few minutes of research.

Saying Edison invented the light bulb is 100% wrong at a basic level.

Crash55
11/14/2025 08:30:30 am

I went looking on the web. Wikipedia does list a lot of people before Edison but right up front the majority of teh credit is given to Swan and Edison.

The lightbulb as we know it traces to Edison. His was the first commercially available one and the screw/socket combo that we use to this day for most bulbs.

https://www.bulbs.com/learning/history.aspx?srsltid=AfmBOooj1wsyhNcOds2YEGw4T56TnhwNf6tGeZB9lTybtplQKaAT0Lae

https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-light-bulb

So yes you can technically be correct in that someone created an electric light bulb before Edison. However ALL of today’s electric lightbulbs trace to Edison.

Kent Littella
11/14/2025 10:49:10 am

In the olden days, 1600s, there was a traveling lithotomist Frère Jacques Beaulieu who would help with kidney stones in a quite barbaric manner. But as Frère Dalton taught us, pain don't hurt.

One of the rules of rigid sigmoidoscopy is "If you can't rotate the sigmoidoscope rotate the patient." Imagine Vincent and Jules having that conversation.

Without Edison we wouldn't be living in a world illuminated by carbon light bulbs today so just back off. Wait what? Tungsten?

Never mind.

Adrianus Luca
11/15/2025 08:28:25 pm

There are no incandescent light bulbs in my house; there haven't been in almost a decade.

Merv
11/11/2025 02:45:05 pm

Crazy fake news nationalism is more popular than ever. In addition to the other article here about NBC and Noah's Ark they also featured a talking head recently supposing the comet is actually an alien spaceship. The news is seeing dollar signs and does not care that they are pandering to the ignorati.

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