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Misinformation Abounds in a Busy Week for Government UFO Fantasies

5/2/2025

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​This week in Washington, Lue Elizondo moderated a panel of ufologists, including Chris Mellon and Avi Loeb, sponsored by the UFO Disclosure Fund. The panel discussion, billed as a briefing, took place in Congressional offices, but it was not and official Congressional hearing. During the panel discussion, Eric Davis told Rep. Eric Burlinson that there are four different species of alien visiting Earth regularly: insectoid, reptilian, Grey, and Nordic. These are not serious men. Elizondo then appeared on Chris Cuomo’s NewsNation program to discuss UFOs, and by the end of the day yesterday, his “new” evidence for flying saucers had already been debunked. At the panel discussion, Elizondo presented a blurry 2021 photograph of a light-colored and a dark-colored circle on flat land he claimed to be a 60-100 foot craft flying near the Four Corners. Internet users quickly identified the photo as an image of two irrigation circles on farmland in Colorado. The water-filled circle next to the cleared land created the illusion of a shadow. [Update: Elizondo apologized on Saturday for presenting this photograph to Congress without appropriate vetting.]
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Lue Elizondo's "UFO" photo.
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The same area in a Google Maps photo.
​Similarly, the new UFO “whistleblower,” Matthew Brown claimed to have seen secret UFO documents labeled “2018 Schriever Wargame,” the same wargame David Grusch claimed to have consulted on in the C.V. he provided to Congress. However, the Schriever Wargame is a long-running annual military exercise, established in 1998, that is publicly promoted and discussed by the Space Force each year. It is “designed to explore critical space issues to include investigating the military utility of new space systems, identifying solutions to common challenges, and advancing space support,” according to Space Force.
 
It appears that UFO fanboys in the military mistook fictitious wargame documents for secret UFO revelations. Both this and Elizondo’s irrigation circles reinforce a conclusion I’ve drawn many times before, that ufology is nothing more than believers interpreting their own ignorance of the mundane through a lens of midcentury science fiction mythology. They see what they want to believe.
​And just for giggles: Hal Puthoff, the godfather of this whole mess, told Joe Rogan in a new Joe Rogan Experience interview that “one of our remote viewers [from Project Stargate] found a UFO base, Mount Zeil in Australia.” A popular hiking location, no one has ever found evidence of a UFO base in Mount Zeil, nor did the U.S. government ever go in search of one there. But Puthoff’s claims show us that ufologists not only rely on fantastical “psychic” claims but that their quality of evidence hasn’t changed from the 1970s, no matter how many times New Age nonsense fails to produce any tangible results.
 
They see what they want to believe.

Throughout the multi-hour interview, Puthoff displays a shocking lack of critical thinking, devoting most of the interview to defending psychic powers before endorsing nearly every traditional UFO chestnut, from the Roswell crash to underground UFO bases to the magnesium-bismuth slag from Art's Parts (which he cannot imagine could be industrial waste and not intentionally manufactured) to Bob Lazar and element 115. It is rather shocking how steeped he is in UFO culture and how heavily it shapes his thinking, even more than one might imagine. Worst of all, he claims that “compartmentalization” in government means that most people working on crashed UFOs do not realize they are involved with alien ships, but he never stops to think that the same “compartmentalization” may well mean that he and his colleagues are imagining alien spaceships from fragments of research in other fields that they do not fully understand.
 
So why is all of this happening this week? Oh, right: Congress needs to plan for next fiscal year’s budget, and Avi Loeb wants $1 billion to hunt UFOs.
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Kent link
5/2/2025 03:49:04 pm

"During the panel discussion, Eric Davis told Rep. Eric Burlinson that there are four different species of alien visiting Earth regularly: insectoid, reptilian, Grey, and Nordic."

In addition to using British spelling Mr. Davis is woefully underinformed. I've heard of as many as eleven different alien types, including the Slenders, the Bunnys, the Boogeys and the Fnordians.

Anyone can fake crop circles but what about the crop circles you can't see?

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Mean R Queried
5/2/2025 11:40:44 pm

Hello. How did I not know that an unofficial congressional briefing had been scheduled earlier this week? I find out about these things too late after the fact when I check your blog and it is just sad. Does nobody make announcements anymore? Are these things now being done impromptu instead of being planned years in advance as imagined? How can I keep up with all this space news better?

None of this is really news. These are the same stories that have been told and retold for decades if not centuries. Thought insects and reptiles evolved on Earth. Sure that the Nordic countries are located in the northern region of Europe, a continent on Earth. Loads of things on Earth are shades of grey in color. Always the same lists of types in a universe of infinite diversity. As an example, visit this website.

https://alien-facts.com/alien-types

Sadly, some folks say there is only one alien disguised as a diverse multitude of species which would render useless all of the long lists of detailed descriptions of alien species and their motivations.

That mountain in Australia is one of four mountains around the world originally remotely viewed by Pat Price in 1973. The experiment was repeated a decade later by other famous psychic spies. I have found loads of legends associated with those mountains. Interested? That website had some discussions about the legends associated with those mountains in its forum which disappeared.

https://alien-facts.com/forum-1

Years ago, a photograph of someone captured near that mountain in Australia was circulated online.

https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/381891243414587673/

Looks like the author mixed up the place with Mt. Shasta, California. Notice the text in the picture's bottom left corner. There are other similar pictures with similar text. Curious?

Do not forget that Hal was a Scientologist, as were most of the famous original psychic spies who started these programs. I wonder if one of legendary mountain bases located in the Pyrenees could be the place that L. Ron Hubbard spoke about in this quote.

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1466315

Quote:
"The last Martian report station was established in the Pyrenees."

What was that all about anyway? What are B.T.L. implants? Curious about the other two mountains in Alaska and Zimbabwe?

A billion dollars is like a drop in a bucket to the federal budget. Thought the news said no more federal money for Harvard. Something about waking up to antisemitism.

I want to let you know that Christopher Knowles is at it again.

https://thesecretsun.substack.com/p/praying-to-the-aliens-the-mithraic

https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2025/05/praying-to-aliens-sex-drugs-and-flying.html

Did Amazon.com stop selling his books?

Also curious if you or anybody else can decipher this blog post too.

https://mcmmadnessnews.blogspot.com/2025/04/the-whispers-of-obsidian.html

Sorry. Thanks! Goodbye.

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Expensive hutch
5/3/2025 11:56:18 am

If you step back just a bit, and consider the perspective of “all those who feel themselves to be associates of one of the more ancient or more typical secret societies of the West, those oddly indestructible societies unknown it would seem to Antiquity, which came into being with Christianity, most likely at the time of the first monasteries, at the periphery of the invasions, the fires and the forests: I mean to speak of the great warm and tender Freemasonry of useless erudition” (Foucault, Two Lectures, 7 January 1976 https://monoskop.org/images/5/5d/Foucault_Michel_Power_Knowledge_Selected_Interviews_and_Other_Writings_1972-1977.pdf), then you would be forced to admit that you are as much a practitioner of this tradition of illuminism in the broadest sense as Adam Weishaupt, Isaac Newton, or Pope John XXIII.

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an
5/5/2025 08:17:34 pm

You should have stopped at “all those who feel themselves.”

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I believe in the Priory of Sion
5/8/2025 12:59:17 am

Secret Societies? That's what is known as desperation in a person's life....

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Lawrence
5/6/2025 02:05:21 am

Elizonda, Loeb et al never had credibility here, it was always SF whizbang but now they appear to be parodying themselves or parodying third-rate UFO grift. This is routinely the nature of tricksters, they degenerate over time, parodying their own cons. Very disappointed with Puthoff, a laser physicist of the first rank, and unlike Jason I do think there is considerable evidence for remote viewing. However there are strong fantasy elements to it, welling up from the subconscious, as we see here with this UFO base in Australia nonsense. I am reminded of Ingo Swann remote viewing an alien base on the far side of the moon. Pure fantasy or leg pulling by Swann as Puthoff's colleague and fellow remote viewer 'manager' hotshot Russel Targ suggested. Does Puthoff believe the moon base is real though? I suspect he might.

American credulity on the UFO question at the highest levels (and I do think there is something there, but it's a natural mystery not ET) is shocking but unsurprising. This has been going on for years after all, think Harry Reid, Chris Mellon, the interminable Congressional circus etc. Maybe we can get a good Hollywood musical out of it, a UFO comedy farce musical with Pedro Pascal as Elizonda, David Krumholtz as Loeb, directed by Damien Chazelle perhaps.

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Larry
5/9/2025 10:34:06 pm

"I do think there is considerable evidence for remote viewing."
Such as?

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E.P. Grondine
5/6/2025 07:58:20 am

The question is "are we alone"?

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Puddy Tat For Humanity
5/9/2025 01:44:29 pm

This is East Fifth Street, home address for dreams that never came true.

To the extent that society is functioning properly, yes you are alone. Ironically it's Amish technology, shunning. But we can remotely view you so you are always under observation like Roddy McDowell in that Twilight Zone house on Mars.

The "Technical Remote Viewing" of Major Ed Dames who in a side career wrestled in Mexico under the nombre de luchador Santo, El Maestro is of course the gold standard, on this there can be no debate.

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