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New Academic Paper Challenges Adrienne Mayor's Griffin-Protoceratops Link

6/24/2024

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​A new academic paper is challenging folklorist Adrienne Mayor’s identification of the dinosaur Protoceratops as the inspiration for the legendary griffin of mythology. Mayor’s claim, first made more than thirty years ago and most famously outlined in her turn-of-the-century book The First Fossil Hunters, posits that Central Asian merchants observed the exposed bones of Protoceratops, some with their nests, and passed these tales on. As they traveled westward, the creature turned into a winged lion with an eagle’s head, resembling the beaked skull of the Protoceratops.
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Griffioen by Antonio Tempesta (ca. 1650).

​However, paleontologists Mark Witton and Richard Hing of the University of Portsmouth concluded that Mayor’s argument is little more than speculation, outlining a number of reasons that Protoceratops is unlikely to be the inspiration for the griffin. Many of their arguments are convincing, but some of their claims are seemingly erroneous (Protoceratops is not a horned dinosaur, for example).
 
At root, Witton and Hing argue that Mayor has exceeded the evidence by drawing conclusions that are neither necessary nor supported by paleontological nor Classical facts. They point out that no evidence of Protoeceratops bones being used as griffin bones exists from the ancient world, nor are the dinosaurs associated on the ground with key elements of griffin mythology, such as guarding gold. Further, images of griffin-like monsters exist in Mycenaean art (c. 1200 BCE), centuries before direct Greek contact with merchants from Central Asia. The authors correctly note that dinosaur bones are unnecessary to explain the creation of a legendary animal combining features from two known animals, eagles and lions, both of whom, as symbols of royalty and power, were appropriate legendary guardians for gold.
 
“The whole idea is conjecture and speculation,” Witton told The Guardian.
 
Witton and Hing identify a key inconsistency in Mayor’s argument, notably that, when speaking to popular audiences, as in the children’s book The Griffin and the Dinosaur, she often presents Protoceratops as “inspiring” the griffin myth, but in her academic work she writes instead that the bones merely enhanced a preexisting body of griffin lore, which they say originated in Greece. This is no small point. Throughout The First Fossil Hunters, Mayor fluctuates between ascribing every aspect of the griffin to a Protoceratops inspiration and recognizing that the lion-eagle combo existed thousands of years before contact with Central Asia. (The Egyptians also had eagle-headed, lion-bodied sphinxes.) It simply can’t be both.
 
The earliest griffin lore, given in Herodotus 3.116 and 4.27, is said to come from Aristeas, a seventh-century traveler cited elsewhere in Herodotus, and thus the authors argue that Aristeas misunderstood stories of gold-guarding creatures such as the roc told to him by the Issedones of Central Asia and misidentified them as (Greek) griffins. (The Persian-Arabian roc myth probably postdates this period.) Herodotus says he made use of Aristeas (4.16) to compile his summary and that Aristeas had mentioned gold-guarding griffins (4.13), but it is not entirely clear whether he was the only source for the stories told by the Issedones, as Herodotus also claims Scythian sources for some of his Issedonian information. (Two direct quotations from Aristeas exist, but neither the one in John Tzetzes [Chiliades 687-692] nor Longinus [On the Sublime, ch. 10] mentions griffins. It is assumed that the mention of griffins in Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound 790ff. derives from Aristeas, but this is only an inference based on reading the text against Herodotus.)
 
Nevertheless, no matter who originated the story, the authors raise an important point about Herodotus’ account, namely that the creature named as a griffin may be a Greek interpretation, interpolation, or misunderstanding relative to a genuine account. Such things happened often in Greek literature. One particularly egregious account involved Greek travelers learning of the Persian ayazana, or Zoroastrian fire-altars. They misunderstood the word as Iasonia, or Jasonia, that is, temples of Jason, of Argonauts fame. From this, they crafted an elaborate myth cycle of Jason’s conquest of the East and worship there as a god, something that did not appear in mythology prior to that time. It is not impossible that Herodotus’ informants applied the familiar word “griffin” to a poorly understood story of some other creature.
 
The authors raise this only as a minor point and prefer to focus on the incompatibility of the location of Protoceratops fossils with Classical accounts of griffins, though it is a mistake to read griffin lore in its entirety due to the piecemeal, contradictory nature of its development over many centuries. Mayor, for example, applies to her Protoceratops hypothesis to developments in the myth that first appear as many as seven centuries apart. Witton and Hing, similarly, propose a diffusion of griffin stories eastward from Greece rather than westward from the Near East that discounts the cross-cultural contacts and transfer of stories and motifs across the Near East. Near Eastern stories moved into Greece with regularity (cf. the succession of gods, the Flood, etc.) and Greek motifs also moved back the other way, even finding echoes in the Bible.
 
Mayor raises one important point that Witton and Hing did not counter: While other mythological creatures exist in what seems to be a fantastical time of gods and monsters before the Trojan War, the griffin is described as though it were a real animal, much like the manticore (tiger) and rhinoceros. She correctly concludes that the griffin can’t be a purely mythological creature like harpies or Pegasus. On the other hand, in those days, as Ctesias attests, all manner of weird creatures were presented as real, such as his story of men with long tails and other oddities whose stories still appeared in European and Arabian lore into the Middle Ages. Most of these fantastic creatures, treated as real, were stories acquired from other cultures, either distorted from life or adapted from foreign myths. Ctesias places griffins in India and describes them as quadruped birds (Photius, Bibl. 72) and seemingly recorded legends that mixed their story with that of the giant, furry gold-hoarding ants of India (likely marmots), a story also known to Herodotus. Because Herodotus knows about it, the story was likely in common enough Near Eastern circulation to have become confused with griffin lore somewhere along the line. (Frankly, if we are simply speculating, the furry, non-winged, gold-hoarding griffin, as opposed to the avian, winged artistic one, could easily be a marmot, whose conical muzzle and protruding front teeth could be distorted in storytelling into a beak.)
 
We could go on like this at much greater length, but I think the fairest summation is that nothing in the literary, artistic, or historical record requires us to identify the griffin or its gold-guarding or nesting with Protoceratops, since every aspect of the griffon story could have arisen independently or already existed in Greek culture as far back as Mycenaean times. But nothing prevents us from drawing parallels either. My own feeling is that Mayor makes an interesting circumstantial case, but, ultimately, the evidence doesn’t rise to conclusive.
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Mark Witton link
6/25/2024 11:44:18 am

Thanks for your thoughts on this, Jason. I'm glad to read this considered response and that we have, by and large, made a compelling case. A few comments on your musings...

Protoceratops is definitely a horned dinosaur, we've not made an error there. It's part of the ceratopsian clade, colloquially known as the "horned dinosaurs", and no palaeontologist will raise an eyebrow at us labelling Protoceratops a horned species. It's true that Protoceratops lacks the spectacular horns of other members of this group (it belongs to a relatively "primitive" ceratopsian branch that had yet to develop features that characterise the likes of Triceratops), but both Protoceratops species either have low prominences or crests on their snouts. You could call these "horns" if you wanted; those of Protoceratops hellenikorhinus are certainly quite horn-like. In any case, our use of this label is not aberrant or wrong, even if it might be confusing outside of palaeontological circles!

On descriptions of the griffin as a real animal: we touch on these, noting that accounts of griffin "natural history" must pertain to living creatures (whether real or imagined) as they describe behaviour and anatomical features that could not be deduced from Protoceratops fossils. The only storied griffin behaviour that could be attributed to Protoceratops is nesting but - as we discuss in the paper - this was part of griffin mythography well before the Greeks made contact with the Scythians. We did not attempt to deduce what these stories were actually based on, other than mentioning the marmot theory, but we stressed their inconsistency with the idea of griffins being based on fossils.

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Jason Colavito link
6/25/2024 10:54:51 pm

I gathered it was likely a category name rather than a description of the protoceratops. I should have written either "confusing" or "misleading," since neither griffins nor protoceratops have horns and using the term, in places, made it sound like you were discussing horns. Thanks for the clarification.

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Mark Witton link
6/26/2024 04:59:12 am

Horns are relevant in some cases and we did discuss them a little. Mayor links horns with griffin cranial ornaments and initially identified the horned giraffid Samotherium and the famously three-horned Triceratops as potential griffin sources. Later, in 2011, she speculated that the Central Asian ceratopsian Turanoceratops could have inspired griffin mythography because it has brow horns (she states that it has three cranial horns; this is a misreading of the available fossil material). It seems odd to us that, if conspicuous horns were originally an important criterion for identifying the griffin source, that Protoceratops became the main focus of her proposal. But, as we point out, there is much about the identification of potential fossil sources that is peculiar and inconsistent in this idea.

Justin Mullis link
6/25/2024 04:22:39 pm

"Many of their arguments are convincing, but some of their claims are seemingly erroneous (Protoceratops is not a horned dinosaur, for example)."

This seems like a weird comment to direct at two dinosaur paleontologists who should know what kind of dinosaur a Protoceratops is. Also considering that this could have been easily fact checked. Unsurprisingly Witton and Hing are correct. Protoceratops is a member of the clade Ceratopsia (meaning "horned faces"). The fact that Protoceratops actually lacks the prominent facial horns of a Triceratops or Styracosaurus is irrelevant to it's taxonomic classification. It does however possess the iconic bony neck frill.

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Kent
6/26/2024 11:36:53 am

"Stepped out of the shadows merchants and thieves"

"Police and thieves in the street"

"Gumption trap"

"Pressure under fire..Done this before..I don't want it to be his first surgery. Applied himself well...These are the things I'd have confidence in the young MD."

As the Didaktikon teaches us, travel writers lie. The Chatwins, the Therouxoi, the Marci Poli. Read MP's account of Xanadu.

Anecdatum: I was walking to the subway one morning and thought "That's a large golden retriever" but the observer was mistaken, it was a deer walking up the sidewalk. Then it jumped a fence of about my height. Yes I misidentified it at first but I didn't think I saw wings.

That's how animals work you see. One typically only sees wings on birds etc., buildings, and the I-Ching. Things without wings don't have wings.

I know there were long ago rabbits weighing up to an eightieth of a ton but the ontological status of the Easter Bunny and the Gryphon remains same same. Singular verb because one status, doubled adjective for emphasis. Trying to link non-existent beings to fossils is a fruitless but not bootless enterprise.

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Personified Stars
6/30/2024 12:02:09 am

The Griffin is just a combination of two astronomical houses. The Lion and the Eagle. Add the Minotaur being half Man and half Bull giving all four fixed signs of the zodiac.

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Kent
6/30/2024 11:09:03 am

There used to be a poster named Anthony Warren, known by many as the First Pantload as prophesied by Nostradamus in reference to and anticipation of the current day's situation. A large and objectionable broth of a man, in his youth he excelled at sport. Dropped out of sight several years ago, some say he's in Tibet, others the South Pacific working on a rumored Ozempic documentary.

So you'll understand, Chief Slick Slim Boss Hoss Sport, if the editorial we asks you to back up this old "4 Fixed Constellations" non-sense. Are we to understand that the other constellations are zig zaggin around, bebopping and scatting like a Francis Scott Key Bridge worker just trying to enjoy his lunch?

Jesus supposedly cautioned his first Mary Kay salesmen against putting new wine in old skins. J-Train liked to partayyyyyy!!!!! "I'm 33 and I do what I want bitch! Let there be Rolling Rock!" he said on many occasions. With that as context your new poop in old tupperware seems a curious business model. So as people are fond of saying on the internet: be a lamb and cite your source, there's a dear. Two more constellations! Chalk me up on the big board Mr. Costanza!

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'Splainin' Asstrollitchy to Loosy
7/8/2024 02:42:00 pm

Results of a quick internet search. Just because you are too darn lazy to do it yourself.


"The four fixed signs of the zodiac are Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius"

Or Luke/Bull, Mark/Leo, John/ Scorpio/Flying Eagle, and Matthew/Aquarius/Angel/Man

Kent
7/11/2024 12:49:41 am

Ah! So you're from the Repeating It Makes It True school of thought. You're a RIMIT guy. Luv to RIMIT. It can be a call and response:

Repeating it!
- (There's a hit!)
Makes it true!
- (Smackeroo!)

With appropriate safewords of course. Your scene perhaps, not part of my remit.

Mitchell Allen link
6/30/2024 03:19:08 pm

Another correction, post-Alexander travelers were not the first contact between Central Asia and the Mediterranean world. Lapis lazuli and tin were imported from this region from the 4th millennium BCE on. The stories could have arrived much earlier than Mycenean times.

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