Tom DeLonge Talks Ancient Astronauts, Claims "No One Really Cares" about UFO Sightings
On the plus side, Ancient Aliens is off this week, and Unidentified has finished its run. According to the Nielsen ratings, Unidentified fell below a million viewers in its final episode, falling to 926,000. Ancient Aliens was down as well, to just 1.03 million viewers. Putting the season (series?) finale of Unidentified on a holiday weekend probably wasn’t the best way of attracting a large crowd.
But over on UFO Joe, there is a transcript of a radio interview that Tom DeLonge of To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and Unidentified did with 91X radio back in May. I was particularly taken with a weird, somewhat depressing, section of the interview in which DeLonge recounts being brought in to meet a general before the founding of To the Stars. The general began by complimenting DeLonge’s Angels and Airwaves band profusely—which is already a bad sign.
And like twenty-minutes into it, I was like, sir I know who you are, so when you sit here and give me all these compliments about my music, I’m kind of thinking, what’s the deal here? You know, I’ve taken it with a grain of salt. And he took a big breath and then leaned back in his chair. And then he just scoots forward, (laughing) and I remember I flinched and then he goes, I need to know who the eff you are. You know a bunch of stuff – using bad words – that you shouldn’t know and I need to know why. You need to tell me why you and I are in this room and how you know what you know. Another line…you know stuff the President doesn’t know and I need to know why. (laughs). I was like, oh my God. That’s when I wanted a diaper. I’m going….oh my God, what have I gotten myself into?
Remember, as DeLonge told Joe Rogan back when To the Stars launched, he didn’t actually have any insider knowledge when he started. He gained his information entirely from UFO books and conspiracy theory websites. If DeLonge is correct in his account, it reinforces the depressing feeling that paranormal investigator (and Robert Bigelow consultant) Jacques Vallée got when he discovered that the military was using his books as reference works for investigating UFOs and the paranormal. As he said, he didn’t know anything for certain, so they must know even less!
DeLonge confirms my interpretation later in the interview when he said that the general had him brought in because he had heard DeLonge blathering about UFOs on Coast to Coast A.M. Just think about that for a moment. DeLonge summarizes 1970s UFO books on the radio, and a general is astonished because his own intelligence—probably unbeknownst to him derived from the same 1970s UFO books, plus 1970s paranormal researcher Hal Puthoff, the driving force before Pentagon paranormal studies for 40 years—seems to be the same as what DeLonge is saying on the radio. And then DeLonge hires the same crew of 1970s ufology buffs who have been orbiting this black hole for four decades. Bizarrely enough, we could construct an entire narrative in which all of this is reducible to a folie à deux between the Pentagon and DeLonge.
Consider, too, DeLonge’s description of his childhood interests, in which science, pseudoscience, science fiction, and the occult merge seamlessly, to the point that he doesn’t actually distinguish between them:
As a kid, when I was like…probably in junior high. I started trying to find books that I…first book I found was like UFOs and Loch Ness monster or something. And I was like, wow, that’s weird. It’s like reading about ghosts or something. And that was the beginnings of my love of science fiction, all things George Lucas and all that kind of stuff. I think I was always a very spiritual person. […] And when you study the UFO stuff, it takes you right down into the heart of all of this stuff. People think you just study about space ships. It has nothing…I mean any UFO book isn’t even about. You can find ones on sightings but no-one really cares about that. You’re usually reading about ancient religious texts. You’re reading about consciousness. You’re reading about esoteric physics.
He means that he is reading about the ancient astronaut theory, which is religion in the guise of pseudoscience. But at least we see that DeLonge’s mission has never been about space aliens. It’s always been a metaphysical flight of fancy to find meaning in a Nietzschean world where God is dead and space aliens are the only divinities remaining.
And don’t you feel dumb for watching his six-part History Channel series about military UFO sightings since “no one really cares about that”!
7/13/2019 02:41:40 pm
Sorry about your move. I have yet to hear if or experience one where everything went fine.
7/13/2019 04:12:27 pm
"Esoteric physics"? Pull the other one. While DeLonge probably knows more about physics than Anthony "Day Ward" Warren I doubt he even knows basic calculus.
7/13/2019 04:57:04 pm
Sorry to hear about the moving troubles, Jason. I know how hard it is to move, especially moving a library and all that goes with it. I know you must be furious about not being able to reassemble your bookshelves; I certainly would be.
7/14/2019 09:44:40 am
"You've said many times on this blog, and I agree, that ancient aliens are merely a substitute for supernatural deities among the world's various faiths."
7/14/2019 11:53:30 pm
I'll agree partly with that statement. I like that you put "rational" in quotes. That's essentially one of the points I was making.
7/15/2019 02:11:11 am
Allow me to rephrase my statement. As ancient religions make no sense to many people today, they find ancient aliens to be a more "sensible" explanation.
7/15/2019 09:51:20 am
Understood, and agreed.
7/13/2019 05:54:17 pm
Jason, Jason, Jason. I told you to have a *happy* moving day. You obviously weren't listening! =P
7/13/2019 11:25:56 pm
Willard T. Fox
7/14/2019 12:22:28 pm
Sorry to hear about your moving problems. About twenty years ago I was helping a friend of mine move. He had hired a fly by night moving company ran by two guys and a truck. They showed up packed his furniture and drove away and went to the wrong house. They finally showed up about three hours later with the explanation that they had lost the address and had to call in to their office to find out where to go.
7/14/2019 03:12:31 pm
I'm sorry to hear about all the move troubles. Couldn't you get the guys who broke the steps to reimburse you? Insurance? But that sort of thing is why it's now been 30+ years since I moved to my tiny farm, and I have NO intention of moving again if I can help it. Besides which, I moved with 3 sheep, the cat and 4000 books. That lot - apart from the cat - has considerably escalated. Aaaahhhh!
Accumulated Wisdom, Esq.
7/14/2019 11:27:49 pm
Among my countless impressive accomplishments, I also style myself as an expert on the law. Did you know that you can sue the moving company for the damages that they caused to your property (both real estate and chattels)? If they are bonded with the state, you can also impair that bond until you are legally compensated. Shoot me an email if you would like to discuss the matter further.
7/15/2019 01:56:17 pm
In another lifetime I tried to explain to a USMC Captain and West Point grad that knowledge of geology and soils could be of use in terms of military application. He couldn't grasp that. So doesn't surprise me that another such intellectual giant might actually believe that DeLonge has some real insight into UFOs.
7/16/2019 03:59:03 pm
Absolutely right, Doc. Geotechnical engineering and engineering geology - two similar but separate sub-disciplines that are useful in so many different applications - especially military.
7/16/2019 04:51:15 pm
Correction, he was A Bulldog Option Naval Academy grad. Would be no small irony if he ended up commanding a unit of combat engineers.
7/23/2019 07:11:42 pm
I just read your comments on Jimmy the Greek in the other thread. Very entertaining!
7/15/2019 05:53:42 pm
DeLonge is probably just a useful idiot. The general was an intelligence officer blowing smoke up his ass. They're using him to spread disinformation and propaganda for a variety of purposes that shouldn't be hard to guess. See the book and documentary called "Mirage Men." Interesting that they even mention it in the "Unidentified" show. Some people are getting wise to the game so they had to address it.
7/17/2019 10:18:39 pm
Mirage Men is a great, eye-opening book. I need to re-read it after getting through the three-foot stack of non-UFO books waiting to be read.
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