Last week, the Society for Scientific Exploration held its thirty-seventh annual conference, this time in combination with the International Remote Viewing Association. The two organizations focus on fringe science claims about psychic powers, the mysteries of consciousness, alternative energy, alternative medicine, etc. You will of course recognize the SSE as the publisher of Edge Science, a magazine whose articles about ancient astronauts and related claims I have had occasion to criticize more than once. Well, at last week’s conference in Las Vegas, Dr. Hal Puthoff gave a lecture on his work for To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and the Pentagon’s UFO program. Like the secret showman that he has long been, he hinted at things he refused to say and used blanket claims about government classification to avoid dealing with provable details to support his implications and allegations. However, he accidentally led me to the solution to the mystery of To the Stars’ secret “alien” metal alloy that they have been promoting since last year. You know how I hate to leave a mystery unsolved, and the “alien” alloy really bothered me. But you’ll have to wait until the end to find out the solution. I am mean that way. Regular readers will recall that former Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), working at the behest of campaign donor and UFO believer Robert Bigelow, passed legislation creating the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program, a UFO tracking bureau, whose work (and funding) were outsourced to Bigelow’s company until funding ended in 2012. This program made headlines last December when a former official left the Pentagon, joined Tom DeLonge’s To the Stars, and revealed the existence of the shuttered Pentagon enterprise to the New York Times at the same time that To the Stars began promoting declassified Pentagon videos purporting to show UFOs. Puthoff is DeLonge’s Vice President of Science and Technology at To the Stars Academy. He is a former Scientologist who worked on remote viewing projects and made a name for himself as a believer in various paranormal phenomena, and he is also a paid subcontractor for Bigelow. He admitted this week that he worked on the Pentagon project under financing from Bigelow. While he has endorsed a number of unusual phenomena, he does have his limits. He told fringe writer Philip Gardner in 2013, for example, that he did not endorse the claim that a powder made from “white monoatomic gold” could be used bend space and time or to levitate objects. Strangely, though, this was not because he doubted its power per se but because the owner of the alleged white monoatomic gold powder never provided him with a testable sample. Oddly, though, that exactly what To the Stars has alleged chunks of broken metal from space alien ships can do. Funny how these things always come back around. Puthoff delivered a speech describing his investigation of what he calls “Advanced Aerospace Vehicles” and the pieces of debris that fall from them with astonishing regularity. In his speech to the conference, Puthoff creatively deployed claims of government classification when convenient. One might imagine that if he is indeed correct that the American government is actively investigating these space vehicles and their technology that their very existence would be just as classified as the decidedly less exciting description of their metallic composition, but apparently not, for Puthoff has no trouble sharing allegations that the U.S. is aware of non-human technologies, but hesitates to provide any details about testable material derived from these. Anyway, he says that “you’ve got these Advanced Aerospace Vehicles flying around that we don’t know where they come from, who’s driving them, what the intent is – possibly off-world even.” He implies that this is a Pentagon revelation, but it seems that this is instead his own gloss on plain old everyday UFO reports, for he alleges that the Pentagon’s actual concern regarded planning for encounters with advanced aircraft. Puthoff suggests that these would be future UFO invasions, but there is nothing that suggests this other than his own assertion, and I find it difficult to grasp the idea that the Pentagon would only care whether the Russians or Chinese might use crashed UFOs to gain a technological edge over the Americans. Surely the arrival, and potential capture or destruction, of fucking SPACE ALIENS and their craft really ought to warrant some level of interest if true. Puthoff says that space aliens pose no strategic threat that concerned either the Soviet or American governments during the Cold War, so therefore the only concern was whether the enemy might make better use of crashed alien spaceships. What the actual fuck? I mean that genuinely. Even leaving aside the fact that the arrival of beings from another world would open us to the potential for Andromeda Strain-style devastation, it is impossible to conceive of a world where intelligent beings from another world are buzzing through the skies regularly and literally nobody cares, except about how much money they can save by piggybacking off their technology. The same Pentagon that obsessed for years over whether you can kill a goat by staring at it has no interest in what would have been the most important scientific, technological, and even existential development in millennia? This is the same problem I have with ufology and ancient astronaut theories. If these people genuinely believed that they had discovered true and incontrovertible evidence of an intelligence beyond human, surely they would be profoundly transformed and not utterly blasé about it. Every street-corner prophet who imagines he has heard the voice of God speaks with more passion and commitment than the men and women who say that they have proved that we are not alone. When we get into the fine details of Puthoff’s claims, things start to get a little fuzzy. Puthoff admits that the Defense Intelligence Agency’s efforts to find a contractor to investigate alleged “advanced aerial vehicles” were “unclassified,” along with the scope and limits of that investigation. He says this in the hope of absolving Bigelow of the implication that Reid, having been convinced to fund the project by Bigelow and those in Bigelow’s orbit, received the Pentagon’s contract as a favor. But Puthoff actually admitted that DIA wasn’t hiding the program and hadn’t classified the supposedly forbidden details. Indeed, he also admitted that most of the documents produced by experts for the program, whitepapers on the future of air and space travel, for example, were also unclassified. These papers covered sci-fi topics such as “positron aerospace propulsion, IEC fusion as a compact energy source, warp drive, dark energy, extra dimensions, metallic glasses for aerospace use.” These papers were shared openly throughout the government. Ah, but when it comes to actual material that Tom DeLonge is profiting from, suddenly things change. Puthoff talks about the allegations that so-called “meta-metals” have been recovered that were beyond human technology. “I’d love to talk about really fancy materials, but they’re classified,” he said. Oh, but of course. The existence of non-human spacecraft isn’t a secret, but the fact that they are made of fancy metals is both a secret and one that can be openly admitted in public so long as he doesn’t provide any details at all. That’s some very selective classification. Puthoff, however, says that he can talk about a chunk of metal that the late radio host Art Bell had told him about decades ago. Puthoff said that he examined the sample after a self-described military man said he had recovered it from a UFO crash site and sent it “by email” to Bell. It appears that Puthoff is not describing an actual physical sample in Bell’s possession but rather a document claiming to describe a government report on such a sample, but Linda Moulton Howe claimed in the Roswell Daily Record last year that Bell had the actual sample (six in fact!) and that it had been “recovered” from the Roswell UFO crash site and sent to Bell in 1996 by an Army sergeant who got it from his grandfather. Here is what Puthoff had to say: It was a multilayered bismuth and magnesium sample. Bismuth layers less than a human hair. Magnesium samples about ten-times the size of a human hair. Supposedly picked up in the crash retrieval of an Advanced Aerospace Vehicle. It looks like it’s been in a crash. The white lines are the bismuth; the darker areas are the magnesium separations. So the question was what about this material, so naturally we looked in all the national labs, we talked to metallurgists, we combed the entire structure of published papers. Nowhere could we find any evidence that anybody ever made one of these. […] Well, years later, decades later actually, finally our own science moves along. We move into an area called metamaterials, and it turns out exactly this combination of materials at exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies. And where is this sample now? Amazing the way these astonishing pieces of evidence vanish. The research that Puthoff said he did is the exact same research that Howe claims to have done, point for point, and that strongly implies that they were not working entirely independently. Howe’s findings, though, were hardly conclusive. She asked electrical engineer Travis Taylor to do a literature search, and he couldn’t find reference to the magnesium-bismuth material. This is clearly of a piece with the other bits of exotic metal that fellow Bigelow consultant and ufologist Jacques Vallée has been talking up for the past year. Vallée specifically identified the metal chunks he works with as being made of “magnesium” with unusual isotope ratios. DeLonge claimed that his lumps of metal are unnatural “alloys” that can bend space and time and counteract gravity. Where have heard that before? But specifically, he alleged that the metal was “3D-printed” with different layers of different metals. This is indistinguishable from Puthoff’s description of a sample made of multilayered bismuth and magnesium, and indeed, I found that DeLonge referred to “layered bismuth and magnesium metamaterials” being in his possession. Despite the superficial differences, I have trouble believing that Bigelow’s satellites—Puthoff, Vallée, and even DeLonge—aren’t all promoting variations of the same thing. Garry Nolan of To the Stars seemed to confirm this in describing the magnesium-bismuth metamaterials as alloys, alleging that they have unusual isotope ratios, and endorsing the overlapping claims found in all three of the other advocates’ allegations about the materials. Here is Nolan confirming my suspicions explicitly: “Yes, Jacques and I have worked together on many projects. Including his recent discussions on the isotope ratios. Jacques previously worked with Peter Sturrock (Emeritus Professor of Astrophysics here at Stanford) a couple of decades ago on composition of materials from UAP.” “UAP” refers to “unidentified aerial phenomena.” So, to summarize: All of Bigelow’s satellites are engaged in a mutual dance of apparent delusion. Nolan is a microbiologist. Vallée is a computer scientist and venture capitalist. Puthoff trained as an electrical engineer and spent his career in parapsychology. None has expertise in metals or their claimed quantum processes of producing unusual metals. According to no less an authority than Vallée himself, speaking in interviews last year, they have made no use of experts in advanced metallurgy but have instead used commercial laboratories to study pieces of metal and developed their own explanations of the results. “I’m pretty well connected with the high-tech community, including one company that I financed as a venture capitalist,” he told Skeptico last fall, adding that he hired their mass spectrometer to analyze magnesium slag for alien isotope ratios. But more to the point, try parsing Puthoff’s description carefully. Puthoff wants us to read this as saying that the military recovered a sample of metamaterials, failed to reproduce it, but made great advances over decades after studying it. And yet the description also could just as easily suggest that a secret advanced program had produced such metal earlier than it had become public and that not everyone was aware of who was working on what. Indeed, Puthoff himself provided evidence for that very reading when he admitted that “it’s a high compartmentalizational topic, therefore a slow pace of cumulative progress and integration. We call ’em ‘stovepipes.’ You have a lot of people with lots of detailed information about some particular aspect, but they don’t talk each other even if it is sitting at the next desk.” Basically, if we apply the most plausible reading to the claims as given (which is a dicey proposition to start with), Puthoff is acting surprised that a classified military program may have tested aircraft with advanced materials that were not publicly described for several decades after testing began. This should surprise no one. Stealth aircraft were under development for many years before they made their public debut—and, indeed, the U.S. government may even have encouraged ufological explanations for sightings of stealth craft before they were ready to be officially acknowledged in order to help keep them secret. That there is something fishy in all of this can be seen in the fact that the magnesium-bismuth layering is not a new discovery but is widely discussed in fringe literature for decades. Linda Moulton Howe has been promoting it since the 1990s, and it appears routinely in twenty-first century books about anti-gravity technology and UFOs, going back at least to the early 2000s. I am torn between thinking that the Bigelow group are blindly pursuing what they think is real U.S. government research into magnesium-bismuth layering and thinking that they are cynically pulling bizarre claims from UFO literature to excite ufologists and UFO believers into thinking that they have real pieces of a flying saucer. A final piece of evidence suggests that the Bigelow’s men are overstating their claims. In 1996, Linda Moulton Howe commissioned technologist Nicholas A. Reiter, himself an anti-gravity researcher and a fringe believer in UFOs and paranormal things, to investigate the “Roswell sample”—i.e. the same piece that Puthoff is now promoting. Reiter determined that it was earthly and, while unusual, was not impossible. In 2001, he updated his findings with this information: “The combination of bismuth and magnesium had eluded us for four years. But then one day, we found a reference to an obscure industrial process used in the refinement of lead. The process, called the Betterton-Krohl Process, uses molten magnesium floated over the surface of liquid lead. The magnesium sucks up, or pulls bismuth impurities out of the lead! Often, the magnesium is used over and over again…” Presumably, this is the same process that was patented in 1938, producing a thin crust of layered magnesium and bismuth, which is removed from the lead. When the magnesium is reused, new layers would form. (The Fortean Times endorsed this solution in 2016.) Remember that Vallée’s sample was specifically identified as slag—i.e., industrial debris. Howe refused to publicize Reiter’s results, preferring to string along the “alien” mystery. Of course, we would need a known sample made by the industrial process to test the “alien” versions against, but the distribution of the slag in industrialized nations (Vallée claims examples from France, Argentina, and America, for example) id s point in favor of this solution. The new information here is that To the Stars seems to be collecting more of the same industrial waste that Linda Moulton Howe has been cycling through the UFO circuit for 22 years. The “space-time” and “gravitational” anomalies of the metal are also explainable, and have been explained for decades. Howe, Puthoff, and DeLonge all ran high voltage through the metal and made it move. Any piece of metal will react the same way to high enough electrical voltage. If I understand the science correctly, the unusual isotope ratios may also be a result of the industrial process, since the resulting metal is artificial and not a natural occurrence. Bottom line: The Bigelow-adjacent men may well be testing industrial waste and imagining they have found alien technology, or know better and are lying about it. A photo of the apparent industrial waste makes visible how decidedly unlike a flying saucer’s smooth, sleek, and fictitious finish it appears: The bigger question is why they are promoting industrial waste as UFO wreckage, and why so many people affiliated with Bigelow are pushing this narrative. I could only speculate.
There are some uncanny echoes to the part of the 1947 Maury Island incident where Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman tried to pass off industrial slag to Ray Palmer as remnants of a crashed flying saucer, only to have the hoax revealed by a careful analysis, leading Dahl to admit the deception. Puthoff went on to say that he felt the need to communicate with the public about mystery vehicles and therefore left government work to cofound To the Stars Academy with DeLonge. This is another area where I am dumbfounded. Supposedly, he had access to proof positive of space aliens, and their actual technology, and chose to … do nothing, to walk away, and to give speeches instead of working on actual space alien machines and metals. I guess that’s because his actual job didn’t really involve space aliens or UFOs but rather coordinating a series of speculative reports about future aerial technologies. In other words, he doesn’t actually know what he implies that he knows, and didn’t work on the things he imagines that people he admits he didn’t work with were working on.
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Americanegro
6/16/2018 12:41:40 pm
What's the count so far on alleged UFO crashes? I'm worried about the aliens' safety record.
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Viktor Golubic
11/17/2018 09:32:06 pm
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Viktor Golubic
6/19/2019 04:32:16 pm
Update: After seeing closeups of the layers, and more material from the collection received by Linda Howe, I strongly believe the layered material is non substrate overspray accumulation deposit from high purity Bismuth (routinely available as a sputtering target) and high purity Magnesium/Zinc targets (typically available as a 99/1% Sputtering target) from a Magnetron Sputtering Chamber using Argon Plasma as the Sputtering Ion. Since Zn sputters at a higher rate than magnesium you will typically see it deposit at 97/3% from a 99/1% source, which is exact what we find to be its composition. The chamber targets are typically 2 inches in diameter with a machine finish. In Linda’s 3 part presentation on YouTube, we see an 2 inch Sputtering target in the collection she received, providing further proof of this origin. The complete layers would take about 125 to 150 hours to deposit. Typically the chambers aren’t cleaned often allowing this accidental accumulation on the inside machine rough surfaces within the same chamber which account for its undulating growth as a slag waste material over time. I would look for subtle oxidation surfaces within the layers to determine how often the chamber was possibly opened and exposed to air during substrate part change-outs. The actual part being coated is unknown, but patent searches reveal many possibilities for seeing these metals in close association with one another as part of more complete processes.
Viktor Golubic
6/19/2019 04:47:09 pm
Adding further... the greatest radius of curvature of the part may also reveal the size of the deposition chamber along several possible surfaces within its housing ... that it would have accumulated upon as layers from each separate puttering episode. It could then be compared with those likely chambers in the market.
Mike
10/22/2019 08:14:26 pm
Viktor- what kind of things would be made with that type of sputtering treatment? What industry?
Shane Sullivan
6/16/2018 12:47:57 pm
"Regular readers will recall that former Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) ..."
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Huh? What?
6/17/2018 10:59:33 pm
Would you care to make a smart aleck remark about them using electricity too?
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Locke
6/18/2018 12:05:21 am
Just seems odd that the aliens all seem to use technology or technology similar to contemporary stuff.
Shane Sullivan
6/18/2018 12:13:22 am
Sorry, let me be more clear: I had no idea why "a lot of people with lots of detailed information about some particular aspect, but they don’t talk each other even if it is sitting at the next desk" would be called "stovepipes".
HUH? WHAT?
6/18/2018 01:00:19 pm
"Just seems odd that the aliens all seem to use technology or technology similar to contemporary stuff."
Oraneg
6/19/2018 06:00:09 pm
Jason, you wrote:
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w.p.kronkat
6/16/2018 02:00:48 pm
These clowns really get me laughing so hard.
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Bezalel
6/21/2018 08:05:23 pm
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
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Tom mellett
6/16/2018 03:01:08 pm
The amazing vagueness continues! This just posted on the TTSA Instagram account. A quote by Dr. Hal Puthoff, the VP of Science and technology for TTSA:
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Americanegro
6/16/2018 03:12:39 pm
"negoatiatons"
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Tom mellett
6/16/2018 03:40:57 pm
Well that’s my typo in copying the quote, but now I see the Puthoffian humor in my error, because John Alexander also gave a talk at that same Las Vegas conference and he is the pivotal army Colonel, who in the late 80’s guided Hal’s failed Remote Viewing DIA project into what became Bigelow’s NIDS project and led to AATIP and TTSA today.
Americanegro
6/16/2018 06:22:50 pm
Darn! But still a happy accident.
Riley V
6/19/2018 04:53:35 am
This sounds like it was lifted word for word from the mission statement of every POS “Stategic Planning” organization I’ve ever heard off.
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Riley V
6/16/2018 05:45:09 pm
I’m glad he was remembered, but where are “Art’s Parts” today? In the States? The Philippines?
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Crash55
6/16/2018 07:22:06 pm
I work with 3D printing and have been studying various forms of metal 3D printing for a while now. No one is interested in 3D printing if bismuth and very few processes are used with magnesium due to its flammability. Also the best layer height I know of for metal 3D printing is 30 micro-m. The parts would also look much better than what is pictured.
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Crash55
6/16/2018 08:46:09 pm
Here are some standard waveguides. They stop at 300 GHz but you can see the trend. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide_(electromagnetism)#Waveguide_in_practice
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yougivemeaboner
6/16/2018 10:52:35 pm
You give me a boner.
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Machala
6/16/2018 11:15:13 pm
As someone who flunked high school chemistry 58 years ago - thus making me as eminently qualified as Puthoff & Co, to talk about magnesium-bismuth and UFO metamaterials, - I have a couple of serious ( sorta ) questions.
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Crash55
6/18/2018 07:09:18 pm
Nano-materials covers a lot of ground. In reality it is a buzz word that applies to any thing that is nanometer sized. There is a lot of work in nanograined metals, and adding nano-clay to things besides the more common nanotubes, nanofibers, and graphene.
Lmao
4/21/2020 09:50:42 am
Must be why they've got a 5 year contract with the Army to test it. Because everyone is dumb apart from you
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Only Me
6/16/2018 09:50:11 pm
Very nice explanation for the "alien" metal, Jason.
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Ken
6/17/2018 03:05:05 am
(JASONCOLVITA), is your typical SKEPTIC / HATER blog, to get attention by CRITICIZING others! Like many of the others like him, why should we BELIEVE all of the NEGATIVE things JasonColvita writes and has to say about Hal Puthoff?!
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V
6/17/2018 03:55:22 pm
Generally we should believe Jason because we are capable of doing our own research and confirming that yes, everything Jason has suggested is out there in the public domain and does not require believing he has access to "classified sources." Also because we are not idiots who can't even spell the name that is right at the TOP OF THE PAGE. "Jason Colavito," honey. I don't know who this jasoncolvita person is, but it's not the author of THIS blog.
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Hal
6/19/2018 08:31:10 am
Ken, you are fulfilling my role. Thanks.
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LA Raza Unida
6/17/2018 06:30:16 am
Ancient aliens proves we come from star being and we were given this land by them. So all blacks asians europeans go back. Or else we will force you out and ALIENS will help.
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Mandalore
6/17/2018 03:28:11 pm
Die you heathens! All will be purged in righteous fury!
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Americanegro
6/18/2018 06:41:29 pm
Isn't La Raza Mexicans and aren't Mexicans descended from Europeans? Why do you guys get to stay, especially after slaughtering the Aztecs?
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Riley V
6/19/2018 04:58:38 am
Most Mexicans have about as much European ancestry as most African Americans.
An Over-Educated Grunt
6/19/2018 08:35:30 am
Why do you specify white people? People in general are terrible to other people. In this particular context, Cortez could never have made it inland workout disgruntled Aztec colonial subjects. As a research cue I offer the phrase butterfly war. Only thing that differentiates white people in this regard is the opportunity to do it more.
Dave Haith
6/17/2018 07:01:39 am
As I see it this piece is simply a rehash of former postings in Fortean Times and UFO Watchdog.
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6/17/2018 09:14:14 am
What's new, Dave, is that an official from TTSA confirmed that the previously debunked industrial waste is the kind of "alien" metal that TTSA is investigating. While you may feel confident that they have considered earthly explanations, I am not because Puthoff and his friends have a track record of ignoring disconfirming evidence and promoting sensational but insufficiently supported claims. Given that they have equally failed to deal with the explanations given for the military videos that they also promote as alien evidence, I have little faith that they are dealing fairly with objections to their extraterrestrial claims.
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Americanegro
6/17/2018 12:38:02 pm
David Haith and Ken? Same person.
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Wilson kemp
6/17/2018 10:25:26 am
No obscenities please.
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Frank Booth
6/17/2018 02:32:26 pm
Fuck that shit! Pabst Blue Ribbon!
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Dudwiser
6/22/2018 02:27:29 am
That's uncalled for. Shit deserves better respect than being tied in with Pabst Blue Ribbon.
Joe Scales
6/17/2018 11:31:41 am
"This is the same problem I have with ufology and ancient astronaut theories. If these people genuinely believed that they had discovered true and incontrovertible evidence of an intelligence beyond human, surely they would be profoundly transformed and not utterly blasé about it. Every street-corner prophet who imagines he has heard the voice of God speaks with more passion and commitment than the men and women who say that they have proved that we are not alone."
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6/17/2018 12:22:38 pm
Not crazed, Joe, but if you thought seriously that you had made contact with a nonhuman intelligence, wouldn't you be at least as enthusiastic about it as NASA scientists get when talking about their space missions?
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Americanegro
6/17/2018 12:45:36 pm
"if you thought seriously that you had made contact with a nonhuman intelligence, wouldn't you be at least as enthusiastic about it as NASA scientists get when talking about their space missions?" 6/17/2018 01:09:43 pm
It certainly true that some of the ufologists are enthusiastic, and might be genuine believers who really feel transformed. I'm speaking more of the seeming opportunists who can't seem to muster enough emotion to convince anyone but their marks that they have really made the amazing discoveries they claim.
Americanegro
6/17/2018 02:29:11 pm
Okay, now I'm on your wavelength. "Marks" is the exact right term; DeLonge and To The Stars think it's punk rock to make yourself richer by fleecing idiots. Their core business is getting mo' money and their unofficial slogan is "We goin' to Sizzler! We goin' to Sizzler!"
Matt
6/19/2018 04:09:36 am
Isn't that the sole purpose of every company? Only the means and motives of getting the money changes between companies.
Americanegro
6/19/2018 11:16:09 am
Emphatically no. The purpose of most companies is to make profit for the shareholders. The purpose of TTS shareholders is to pay money which will go to Delonge in his mandated minimum annual payment from the company.
Kal
6/18/2018 03:38:48 pm
Seems the symposium is on something a wee mite stronger than Pabst Blue Ribbon.
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Americanegro
6/18/2018 06:58:53 pm
"alleging that they have unusual isotope ratios"
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6/19/2018 08:31:07 pm
This is a pretty good article. The fact is you've got four scientists of some repute saying a lot of the same things about these curious fragments. I believe they believe they're on to something. Thanks for the link to my site. I would recommend looking at professor Sturrock's paper. He goes into quite a bit of detail about how many labs have tested the material he has/had in his possession. It's linked between the Vallee video and the Puthoff quote well down the page:
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Harry Harris
6/20/2018 03:00:45 pm
Colavit"O" makes some interesting points of discussion but like other skeptics and debunkers the points are obviously based on "confirmation bias". That is defined as tendency to seek or consume information from a perspective that confirms one's preconceptions. The same could be said for the so called "UFO Believers". It is interesting that both sides attack each other with this trait in common. But neither has any of the physical evidence in question to analyse under public scrutiny what the material actually is. Calavito does produce some historical facts and then tries to correlate them to support his view on the material(s), as actual fact. Until the material(s) and documentation are produced in a public forum and then given to analysis under the public province there is no answer to what these materials are (if they exist) and where they might come from. Colavito's views on this are purely speculative just as so many others are. Unfortunately this is so common with this subject and is part of the enigma attached to it. However with the recent revelations on the Nimitz 2004 incident and larger media's attention to this, things are changing. Video, various interviews and support documentation on this incident have made it fairly clear that there are flying objects that the military cannot identify even with the most sophisticated of instruments at hand. They also have flying properties described as
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Bezalel
6/21/2018 08:22:54 pm
You have "confirmation bias" bass-ackwards, upside down, inside out, and are forgetting or ignoring the basic scientific precept that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Harry Harris
6/22/2018 12:02:52 am
In the case of the "material(s)" it is not me making any claims or speculations. It is Mr. Colavito. I think if you actually understood my comments you would know that. Oh, and yes many skeptics do have a "confirmation bias". Would be great to have the material, if it exists, examined and analysed using neutral but public labs etc. I mentioned this in my previous comments. I am not sure who you are saying "making claims of extraterrestrial provenance" but for me that is an option that is possible in certain cases. It is not the only option just one of them.
Rock it Rooster
6/22/2018 03:05:17 am
No the problem is extraordinary evidence is a code word for "I need an alien or alien ship".
Bezalel
6/23/2018 09:45:46 pm
Ugh...
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americanegro
6/23/2018 10:36:33 pm
I know about black projects. I grew up in one.
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Bezalel
6/23/2018 11:29:07 pm
Way wrong
americanegro
6/24/2018 02:57:27 am
Unknown to any random street Negro. You keep playin' your game, I,ll be over here looooking gooooood,
Rock it Rooster
6/25/2018 02:24:07 am
I think you need to study more of the subject. There are people studying UFOs that also study black projects, and even those in black projects that admit to studying UFOs because we can't do those things.
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Bezalel
6/25/2018 05:14:48 pm
No
Americanegro
6/25/2018 07:38:59 pm
"Gravitational relativity"? Not really a thing. Sounds like you need some physics courses, and not that made-up shit. Maybe start with undergrad. At a school that exists. That other people can see.
Bezalel
6/25/2018 08:48:55 pm
Sigh
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Americanegro
6/25/2018 10:58:47 pm
People who actually know physics and can actually do the math generally use the proper terms. You're just a Miles Mathis wannabe with not even college physics.
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Bezalel
6/30/2018 09:17:13 pm
Yeah 6/25/2018 10:13:08 pm
Is this the same "sample" that Frank Kimbler will be displaying in Roswell at this year's festival?
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Americanegro
6/26/2018 12:57:01 pm
No, it's not. To his credit Kimbler published the results (numbers) of the isotope analysis that he paid to have done at an actual lab.
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Crash55
6/26/2018 06:11:49 pm
Where on the UFO Chronicles? I can’t figure out why BLM would care unless they view it as an archaeological artifact of some sort.
Americnegro
6/26/2018 07:00:33 pm
Let's talk about composition. And effort.
Crash55
6/26/2018 07:16:29 pm
1. My comments are about this blog post and the comments on it not your link, since your link was to the sites front page
Americanegro
6/26/2018 08:32:46 pm
The link I gave doesn't go to a site, so it can't go to the front page.
Crash55
6/27/2018 07:02:39 pm
If you had an actual education you would realise that is the obligation of the person making the claim / reference to give the correct citation. So asking you to provide a direct link is not be lazy it is following the norm.
Joe Scales
6/28/2018 09:48:05 am
"I was going to go and see if the link was now correct but then you decided to throw out your racist comments. I see no point in wasting time with a waste of space like you. Go back to smoking your crack pipe and make sure you resist the next time the cops pulls you over. You will be doing humanity a favor. "
Crash55
6/28/2018 10:14:13 am
American Negro was racist as soon as he said "that's white of you Mistah PAichD." So I figured I would give him an equivalent response.
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Joe Scales
6/28/2018 01:45:39 pm
Yours wasn't worse than his? His was funnier, that's all I can tell you. But at least you owned up to being racist.
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Crash55
6/28/2018 02:06:13 pm
I find his more offensive because it was totally uncalled for. There was no mention of race or any ad hominem attacks before that.
Joe Scales
6/28/2018 03:43:07 pm
Your remark wasn't "mildly racist". Wildly racist might be a better way to put it. Cringeworthy another.
Crash55
6/28/2018 04:21:11 pm
If you think that was wildly racist you are very sheltered.
Joe Scales
6/28/2018 07:49:10 pm
Here's what you said Crash:
Crash55
6/28/2018 07:56:36 pm
Had he said what he said to me in person and I wasn’t in a work setting I would have said that or maybe something even stronger.
Joe Scales
6/28/2018 08:41:40 pm
"Had he said what he said to me in person and I wasn’t in a work setting I would have said that or maybe something even stronger."
crash55
6/30/2018 02:28:45 pm
There's nothing racist about saying "Go back to smoking your crack pipe and make sure you resist the next time the cops pulls you over. You will be doing humanity a favor." Anyway I like playing with young black boys so there's no way I'm racist.
Jay Oss
1/3/2019 02:47:51 am
"A photo of the apparent industrial waste makes visible how decidedly unlike a flying saucer’s smooth, sleek, and fictitious finish it appears:" The problem with this conclusion is that the picture is of the metal under a microscope, ergo the rough appearance. Linda Howe is a grade A nut job but you should take care to at least do a bit more research before jumping to an unfounded and uninformed conclusion about the picture to fit your views.
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Pie
8/17/2019 05:58:35 pm
So many upset sceptics clinging on to their religion while it crumbles around them
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Nobody
10/16/2019 02:04:40 am
So you want to criticize people who are actual scientists while you're not? bahahahaha Hysterical. Pretty obvious this ufo metal is bullshit. Just what do you have your degree in Jason? Hmmmmm Should you even be writing about any of this since you're really not qualified in any field of science? The ufo crowd has a lot to learn and so do you.
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RAMESH BALASUBRAMANIAM
5/25/2020 01:53:16 am
Late to the party. The amount of ignorance in this 'article' is mind-blowing. I am no UFO conspiracy nut, but reading this gives me the same feeling as reading someone's alien/UFO claim. Wild, biased and with a lot of holes in the logic.
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Wilton Schneel
9/6/2022 11:52:48 am
Interesting stuff. It’s unfortunate that the gullibility of the uninformed has become monetized. (Linda Howes books sell for a hard earned 50 a piece). Nothing new there.
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