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Alien and Alternative Odds and Ends for Thursday

10/20/2016

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A while back I discussed the “Ancient School” project that ancient astronaut theorist Jason Martell launched and promoted on Ancient Aliens. He had hoped it would become a non-accredited lecture series that would see users paying Martell $17 per month for access to speeches from ancient astronaut theorists in a “live” online classroom setting. It appears that the plan was a failure, and “Ancient School” has been reduced to a self-published DVD series, which from the highly limited information that Martell makes available seems appears to feature primarily Martell himself. 
Part of this is a failure on the part of Martell, who has never been able to develop a personality that popped on camera in order to craft a unique ancient astronaut approach. Of course, he’s also stunningly unoriginal, recycling Zecharia Sitchin without offering anything new. But I wonder if it doesn’t also represent the limits to how engaged ancient astronaut audiences are with the theory, and how much time and money they are willing to put into pursuing the “intellectual” and “educational” component of it, as opposed to the “entertainment” factor.
 
After all, hundreds or perhaps even thousands of people are planning to visit History’s “Alien Con” ancient astronaut and Ancient Aliens fan convention next week. And nothing there is designed to educate. But there is plenty to obfuscate. I received a press release telling me that the convention plans to release rare and previously unseen recordings from family members of the characters involved in the alleged UFO crash at Roswell.
 
It’s probably also worth mentioning that after Alien Con offered me an interview with an ancient astronaut theorist to promote the conference and I accepted the offer, they went dead silent. Several weeks later, they have stopped responding to my emails and refuse to speak to me. But they are still sending me press releases.
 
I also saw a copy of the casting call for ufologists and investigators going out from MUFON and GoGoLuckey Productions for a new UFO-hunting TV series to follow up on Hangar 1: The UFO Files. While this would seem like bad news (another UFO show?), the accompanying letter from the executive director of MUFON said only that the show was going to be “pitched” to a “major network,” which means that it isn’t guaranteed, and it hasn’t been picked up yet.  It also means that MUFON is a little desperate for some fresh blood to create a compelling TV show. It looks like they don’t have any telegenic and dynamic ufologists on hand.
 
Speaking of disappointments, I suppose I should note that after Xplrr Media claimed that they would be making a major announcement at this year’s Ancient Artifact Preservation Society meeting, nothing publicly came of it. While the team behind the company are still hinting that they plan to allege that the Ark of the Covenant is buried on Oak Island, it looks like this is another “game-changing” revelation that has been mysteriously delayed. (Did they decide to time their claim to capitalize on the return of Curse of Oak Island next month?) Similarly, the team went silent on the alleged “giant” skeleton that they claimed that they would have professionally excavated for a television show that also has failed to materialize. On Twitter, Scott Wolter of Xplrr Media told his followers that he is not currently filming any television series.
 
But this tweet pretty much summed up everything there is to say:

@AtlanteanFuture We just have to be careful; some are trying to bait into looking stupid.

— Scott Wolter (@RealScottWolter) October 19, 2016
I’m pretty sure that the team who believe in secret global conspiracy hand signals and hidden messages about Jesus’ corpse embedded in Oreos have done a good job of that all by themselves. 
25 Comments
Tom
10/20/2016 12:33:57 pm

How long before the fringe claim that they will excavate Noah's Ark since they have proof that it eventually landed on Mount Washington?
Since Atlantis has moved to America, perhaps Plato taught in Athens Georgia?
Do the top fringers actually believe the rubbish they spout, or are they disciples of PT Barnum and in it for the money?
Has any University actually carried out a study of the fringe mind similar to "When Prophecy Fails"?

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Time Machine
10/20/2016 01:03:34 pm

Uri Geller has friends in the highest echelons of power.
All that debunking did not work

Unveiled by the Duke of Kent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-27453471



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Time Machine
10/20/2016 01:05:11 pm

Prince Michael of Kent

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Residents Fan
10/20/2016 01:13:34 pm

"perhaps Plato taught in Athens Georgia?"

I recall reading an article in "The Unexplained" magazine years ago called "Britain's Greatest Crank" by Peter James.* It was about this British eccentric who thought the events of the Bible all happened in Britain, not the Middle East. I can't recall the name of the man, though (maybe it was Edward Wheeler Bird? )


* This may be the same Peter James who writes thrillers and horror fiction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_James_(writer)

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Time Machine
10/20/2016 01:17:44 pm

I got news for you - none of the greatest events in the Bible happened in the Middle East either.

gdave
10/20/2016 02:52:48 pm

William Comyns Beaumont. His Wikipedia entry quotes Reader's Digest's brief synopsis of his "the events of the Bible took place in Britain" writings. He was also argued Shakespeare's plays were actually written by Francis Bacon, thought giants and other mythological creatures were real, and wrote Velikovsky-style astronomical speculations decades before Velikovsky.

AFAIK, Edward Wheeler Bird was a "mainstream" British Israelite who thought that early British tribes were descendants of the "lost tribes" of Israel.

gdave
10/20/2016 02:54:38 pm

Also, of course, Atlantis was Britain.

Time Machine
10/20/2016 03:10:13 pm

The greatest events in the Bible happened in the priest's imaginations as part of "God's Divine Plan"

bear
10/20/2016 07:10:13 pm

Tom,
Good one. Your comment about Plato teaching in Athens, Georgia made me think of an ad I saw last week for some travel web site.
"You wanted to visit Athens, Greece. You booked a flight to Athens, Georgia instead." I'm old and have chronic back pain so my old memory may be off, but I think the ad was for Travelosity. (spelling?)

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Kathleen
10/20/2016 07:47:44 pm

The Egyptians were in Cairo (pronounced Karo, like the syrup) and the New World Order is up at the Guide stones. What's going on in Georgia? What night will the lights go out?

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Time Machine
10/20/2016 08:04:40 pm

Kathleen,

Graham Hancock has his beliefs in relation to a lost civilization.

You've got your beliefs in relation to The Bible,

Both THUMBS DOWN

Time Machine
10/20/2016 08:09:06 pm

The Nicene Creed is a crappy example of a New World Order that was put into practice,

DaveR
10/25/2016 01:58:48 pm

The night they hang an innocent man.

Alaric Shapli
10/20/2016 09:26:56 pm

"Do the top fringers actually believe the rubbish they spout, or are they disciples of PT Barnum and in it for the money? "

I imagine that some are the former, some the latter. Some are probably some weird combination of the two.

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Kal
10/20/2016 02:08:51 pm

TM, that is your opinion. Two billion people disagree with that opinion, as well as a lot of actual historians. Some events in the Bible were even proven through discoveries of earlier scrolls, ruins from the period, and s slew of holy relics made late. You are confusing the holy relics for the Bible. That is amusing to me.

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expat link
10/20/2016 02:39:35 pm

This month's prize for dishonesty in the service of pseudoscience goes to Mike Bara, in his new book "Hidden Agenda." He took <a href="http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/posts/67">this picture</a>, turned it upside down, and wrote that it's an example of the crystalline spires that are all over the Moon, acting as meteor shields for the alien bases beneath.

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Residents Fan
10/20/2016 05:15:26 pm

"William Comyns Beaumont. His Wikipedia entry quotes Reader's Digest's brief synopsis of his "the events of the Bible took place in Britain" writings. He was also argued Shakespeare's plays were actually written by Francis Bacon, thought giants and other mythological creatures were real, and wrote Velikovsky-style astronomical speculations decades before Velikovsky."


Thanks for that, gdave- I've been trying to remember who put forward those theories for years.

Why am I not surprised that Comyns Beaumont was a "Daily Mail" journalist? ;)

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Jim
10/20/2016 06:17:49 pm

Captain Hook is being careful, but fear not , his Commander perpetually has a foot in his mouth.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
10/20/2016 06:28:25 pm

Jason, maybe I missed it but is there a reason the guy whose only treasure find was a sandwich he forgot in his other shoulder holster became He Who Must Not Be Named?

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Time Machine
10/20/2016 08:07:20 pm

Decipherment
The Conduct of Major Maxim
Novel by Gavin Lyall

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Jason Colavito link
10/20/2016 08:39:14 pm

Because he threatened to sue me and, as of this writing, declined to have his lawyer agree to my lawyer's letter stating that the matter is now closed. I choose not to give him free publicity, except when and if he actually does something newsworthy. (It also keeps his name out of search results and Google alerts, which makes my life more peaceful.)

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An Over-Educated Grunt
10/20/2016 11:36:58 pm

Figured as much. Some people really need a walk out to the island. Unfortunately they're the least likely to accept it.

Doug
10/20/2016 11:46:05 pm

Time Machine-
Just wanted you to know that I'm keeping you in my prayers.
God Bless

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Kathleen
10/20/2016 11:51:21 pm

Amen!

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An Over-Educated Grunt
10/22/2016 11:13:54 am

Two or three names ago, probably first time he started referring to himself as Time Machine, I realized that he spends more oxygen and processor time on Christ than most Christians I know. Since defining your life in opposition to something is still allowing it to define your life, I started calling him "my brother in Christ" and "Brother (Name of the Week)." Thinking it's time to resurrect the habit.

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