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Alien Metal Update: 2009 Harry Reid Letter Released as To the Stars Launches "Project ADAM" to Study Supposed Extraterrestrial Metals

7/31/2018

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​If you have ever wondered why exposing the lies and the fraud of fringe history matters, just consider the alternative. We learned recently, as I reported this Sunday in my newsletter, that a teacher in the Miami-Dade Public School system posted to the official school district website a lesson plan [UPDATE: since removed from the internet] endorsing Ivan Van Sertima’s claim that the Olmec came from Africa, along with Gavin Menzies’s claim that the Chinese reached America before Columbus, and Islamic claims about a Muslim presence in pre-Columbian Cuba. (That last one was endorsed by Turkish Pres. Erdogan.) The lesson plan asks students to research fringe history claims and then write a persuasive letter to the publisher of their social studies textbooks asking for pseudo-historical ideas to be included. Both Andy White and Carl Feagans wrote about this, and I recommend their posts. The story was first shared on Facebook by Pablo Benavente, whom I thank for calling our attention to this travesty. 
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​Meanwhile, the saga of the so-called “alien” metals currently being promoted by To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science continues apace. Regular readers will remember that at the request of then-Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the Pentagon ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program from 2007 or 2008 to 2012 in which they contracted billionaire UFO loon Robert Bigelow to investigate “aerial phenomena,” i.e. UFOs. Employees of Bigelow Advanced Aerospace, the division that worked with the Pentagon program, as well as former employees of Bigelow’s previous paranormal investigation organization now make up a significant part of the payroll of Tom DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy, which is continuing Bigelow’s research.
 
Recently, Las Vegas journalist George Knapp, who used to work for Bigelow investigating the paranormal at Skinwalker Ranch, and who helped to convince Harry Reid to fund the UFO program, recently released a 2009 letter from Reid about the program. (A transcribed copy, with some analysis by Keith Basterfield, can be found here.) I am shocked, mind you, that Knapp was able to obtain a world exclusive on documents sent by the senator he has known personally for years concerning the work done by his former employer with whom he is still closely aligned—and all while routinely failing to disclose his conflicts of interest as a participant in, rather than a neutral observer of, the Bigelow story. 
 
Anyway, the letter, addressed to then-deputy defense secretary William Lynn III, does not mention UFOs and instead describes the program as one intended to investigate potential aerospace technology that could be used in the next forty years. Reid alleges that “much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace related findings,” and he asks Lynn to restrict access to information from the program due to its sensitive nature. As should be obvious, this means that the program was not restricted and not considered sensitive before then. Reid further claimed that the identities of individuals working on the program should be kept confidential to “avoid unnecessary scrutiny.”
 
Those who believe that that government is hiding actual knowledge of UFOs have read this letter to confirm that there was a secret effort to reverse engineer UFO technology, but the text of the letter equally well supports a different cover-up—Harry Reid’s effort to use government secrecy to carry on “investigating” UFO fantasies without having justify interest in the bizarre to voters or taxpayers. In other words, Reid, a UFO believer himself, clearly understood that UFO research would be embarrassing and/or humiliating to the Democrats in the run-up to the 2010 midterms (which they lost anyway) and wanted, in so many words, to keep a lid on the pork he had helped dole out to his friends in Nevada. Ad Reid wrote, “Public awareness of an industry's AATIP affiliation may discourage that industry's further participation with the US Government in this program.” That’s not because a company worried about being attacked. It’s because everyone recognized that hunting UFOs is embarrassing and potentially damaging to a company’s reputation and sales. After all, Hal Puthoff recently listed the studies commissioned by Bigelow Advanced Aerospace under AATIP, and alongside studies of stealth technologies it featured fantastical topics and many papers by Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis, both of whom are looney tunes who think UFOs are psychic vibrations that carry poltergeists to haunted houses.
 
As I read the letter, whatever real science AATIP was doing (and there must have been some, if only the way alchemists occasionally stumbled on parts of chemistry) was secondary to the concern that public awareness of Pentagon UFO research would dry up the lucrative gravy train transporting taxpayer dollars to pork-barrel projects associated with Bigelow Advanced Aerospace and possibly other friends of Sen. Reid and his colleagues.
 
The other key passage in the letter involves Reid’s claims about the science involved, claims that (a) he ought not to have had more information about than the deputy defense secretary and (b) he doesn’t seem to understand:

Associated exotic technologies likely involve extremely sophisticated concepts within the worlds of quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetic theory, gravitics and thermodynamics. Given that all of these have the potential to be used for catastrophic effects by adversaries, an unusually high degree of operational security and read-on discretion is required.
​This discussion is clearly of a piece with claims from To the Stars and Bigelow Aerospace about the way that the alleged “meta-materials” they are investigating (some of which have been identified by others as earthly industrial waste) have ultra-mundane properties that defy gravity and quantum physics. The only information publicly shared about this, however, shows metals acting exactly as expected when exposed to large electrical currents.
 
The most conservative reading of the statements about AATIP’s mandate to investigate propulsion and lift for advanced aerospace vehicles is that the people working on the program watched so-called UFO videos and then tried to back-form engineering solutions to imitate what they believed (but, obviously, had no actual physical evidence to prove) were alien or interdimensional ships, a sort of folie à deux between science and the military. Thus, real engineering developments might have emerged from efforts to duplicate a complete fantasy, sort of like the way science fiction has inspired actual technologies meant to meet the fantasy.
 
But here is the important part: Reid is telling this to the deputy secretary of defense as though it is news. How did Reid find out about what the secretary didn’t know? This creates a problem with one likely solution. If, for example, Reid learned of this from briefings by AATIP officials, then the secretary should have already known as well, since he is their boss, and would not have needed Reid’s goofy letter to convince him to restrict the program. Even the most dull-witted bureaucrat would recognize that UFO technology probably needs protection. Instead, it sounds like Reid received his information from Bigelow Advanced Aerospace, especially since this passage appears immediately following Reid’s claim that “protection of industry partners” (i.e. Bigelow) should take precedence.
 
The letter ends with an odd set of orders telling the Defense Department how to arrange and organize its affairs. Reid says “we require” the Pentagon to assign “a small, specialized group of Dod personnel” to the restricted program, and the list of those privy to the information is telling. It involves Harry Reid himself (!) another UFO-believer senator and a redacted list of industry partners, which is, almost certainly, Bigelow’s people. I am not familiar enough with Congressional affairs to know if senators routinely micromanage Defense Department programs, but this seems like it would be unusual to have a senator trying to make staffing decisions.
 
In short, the letter does not, as ufologists have claimed, represent proof of a government effort to reverse-engineer UFOs. Instead, it appears to be Sen. Reid’s efforts to get special treatment for Bigelow’s group and the fantastical claims—made without concrete evidence, as we have recently learned from revelations by Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis—that Reid came to believe were true. Remember: Bigelow Advanced Aerospace adopted the view proposed by Puthoff and Jacques Vallée in the 1970s that UFOs are ultra-dimensional and are in league with poltergeists. This is not science. It is total and complete fantasy. It always has been, since there remains no evidence that poltergeists ever existed, let alone that they pop out of flying saucers and fall to earth like spectral frozen toilet water from passing ghostly airliners.
 
As this story unfolded, DeLonge’s To the Stars announced the next stage of its incestuous research into industrial waste masquerading as UFO wreckage. It came in the form of “Project ADAM,” an effort to analyze materials “reported” (by whom?) to come from UFOs which were collected by “private citizens, foreign aerospace investigatory committees, aerospace operators and government organizations.  As these materials have come to light, they can be made available for inspection.” Can be? Well, will you or won’t you? Or does it depend on how much you get paid?
 
Read between the lines and you’ll see that To the Stars is describing the scrap metal they obtained from Bigelow Advanced Aerospace and the pieces analyzed by Jacques Vallée and Hal Puthoff outside of To the Stars. The use of the passive voice in the announcement is interesting, hiding as it does who exactly claims the metal to be extraterrestrial. “Government organizations” is also an odd turn of phrase, not typically associated with government departments or agencies. I wonder what hides behind the phrasing. The Condon Committee, a quasi-government panel, analyzed some such metal in the 1960s, and the FBI analyze the Maury Island debris in the 1940s, and both concluded the remains were earthly. The CIA referenced some wreckage in the Third World that locals claimed to be from a UFO in the 1960s and 1970s, but it was most likely debris from the Soviet space program.
 
To the Stars contracted with EarthTech International to investigate the metals. This is important because EarthTech is the company owned by Hal Puthoff, an ex-employee of Bigelow, the current VP of To the Stars, and the originator of the belief that UFOs spawn poltergeists. That’s bad enough, but what’s worse is that EarthTech was already involved in the fiasco since it examined Frank Kimbler’s piece of scrap metal that Kimbler believed came from the Roswell UFO. As Kimbler reported years ago, EarthTech slow-walked the results but in 2011, as AATIP funding dried up and the program shut down, suddenly Bigelow Advanced Aerospace and EarthTech became newly interested in the metal and offered cash money for the rights to analyze it.
 
This occurred right at the time Harry Reid inserted language into the Fiscal 2012 Defense Authorization Act creating the National Atomic Testing Museum in Nevada as one of only a handful of national museums, affiliate branches of the Smithsonian. The museum housed—what else?—a scrap of metal supposedly from a UFO that crashed in the Soviet Union, which it labeled as an “authentic alien artifact.”  And who deposited this metal in a Smithsonian museum? Ex-Bigelow employee George Knapp. Knapp claimed to have additional pieces of Russian UFO metal, but their location wasn’t revealed. I can make a pretty good guess where they are now.
 
It was a clever ruse, really—Reid raises the museum’s level to a Smithsonian national museum. Knapp deposits the metal. Now suddenly the “Smithsonian” has crashed UFO wreckage.
 
Reid has visited the museum several times since he joined it to the Smithsonian, and the museum named its exhibition hall after him.
 
Bottom line: Harry Reid is not to be trusted in these matters because he is complicit in whatever is going on behind the scenes and, by his own statements, completely in thrall to the bizarre ideas about UFOs that Puthoff has been promoting for the past forty years.
 
By the way, my coverage of the alien metals story has earned plaudits from no less an authority on the weird than the Fortean Times, whose August 2018 UFO column offered this rather odd endorsement of my reports on To the Stars and strange metals: “Mr Colavito is particularly entertaining for his forays into pottymouthdom combined with despair and assiduous sleuthing. Much recommended.” Yes, that’s me: Swearing and existential despair. But there isn’t really that much swearing, except occasionally for emphasis. The despair, I suppose I have to cop to.
27 Comments
Graham
7/31/2018 08:58:11 am

Looks like the lesson plan has been pulled from the internet as when I tried to look at it I got a 404 error.

But this does not surprise me. Ivan Van Sertimas claims have been taught as fact under the guise of 'African Studies' since about 1987. Skeptics did try to counter it in the 1990s but were met with claims that the only possible reason for opposing claims that Native Americans were descended from West Africans was they wanted to preserve White Supremacy. Indeed looking at your own list of categories I can see a separate category for 'White Nationalism' but no such category for 'Black Nationalism' which is much more dangerous, because fewer people are willing to oppose the proponents of it when they resort to psedoscientific arguments and claims.

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A Buddhist
7/31/2018 09:59:06 am

I would consider white nationalism to be more dangerous because many white nationalists support genocide - whereas black nationalism grew out of efforts to counter anti-black racism.

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Joe Scales
7/31/2018 11:00:14 am

If you gave all black people a button to push that would eradicate all white people from the planet, probably the same percentage of black people would push it as the percentage of white people if given the opportunity to eradicate all black people. Now that of course is shear speculation on my part, not unlike what you wrote above, yet I'd bet mine is more accurate.

V
7/31/2018 11:42:02 am

I would guess that slightly more black people would push the button right at this moment, at least within the US, but that isn't a slur against black people--it's a commentary on the current political climate and the fact that white people as a whole aren't facing the cops being called on them for doing things like "going to the community swimming pool" and "using coupons" and "walking on a sidewalk."

In other words, there's somewhat more REASON for people of color to want to push such a button.

Joe Scales
7/31/2018 12:34:19 pm

"In other words, there's somewhat more REASON for people of color to want to push such a button."

Well, there are certainly more publicized instances spurring such hatred, which is unfortunate when the motive is purely political strife. I was watching bits of a POV movie on PBS last night. I did not watch much of it, but was struck by the seeming acceptance of "hands up, don't shoot", inspired by the Michael Brown case, as fact. Now if I were to call it an outright lie, I would probably be castigated for it. However, if Lorretta Lynch and Obama's justice department basically called it an outright lie... well, they did; and it went ignored.

Aaa
7/31/2018 01:04:27 pm

In which case would humanty lose more - all white people disappearing or all black people disappearing?

Americanegro
8/2/2018 03:04:19 am

Were you sleeping during Rwanda? Were you sleeping when the New Black Panther Party was "patrolling" polling places?

Tom mellett
7/31/2018 10:25:34 am

Link is fine. Not sure why you got a 404. Here’s the URL again:

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/blog/an-introduction-to-the-adam-research-project

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Tom mellett
7/31/2018 10:35:00 am

Sorry, I interpreted the wrong link for you. But I can confirm now that the link you refer to about the teacher’s lesson plan, does indeed return a 404 Error.

Tom DeLonge does have a reputation for pulling links that show his credulity, but this ADAM project is a pet project of his now that it has the blessings of his “handlers” at TTSA.

Tom Mellett
7/31/2018 10:52:46 am

Well,Jason, given that Harry reis is a Senator of the Democratic Party, and given that Democrats are a lot closer to Marxism than the Republicans and the right wing fringe in UFOlogy are, then this article entitled

THE SECRET HISTORY OF MARXIST ALIEN HUNTERS

Is quite timely for its evaluation of UFOlogy in political-economic terms. I quote an except below.

https://theoutline.com/post/5384/the-secret-history-of-marxist-alien-hunters


“The more the worker spends himself, the more powerful becomes the alien world of objects which he creates over and against himself.” — Karl Marx


Though Ufologists tend to possess an anti-authoritarian streak (it’s hard to be pro-“The Man” when you’re convinced The Man is also lying to you about alien visitors), their singular focus on the truth being out there tends to overlook things like political economics.

After all, wouldn’t the revelation of extraterrestrial intelligence be revolution enough? It’s hard to imagine that the global order — let alone the hierarchies of nationality, class, race, and gender — would remain the same after such an occurrence.

But they also ought to question what it means that this new vanguard of Ufology appears far more interested in securing funding and turning a profit than bringing liberatory truth to mankind. . . .


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An Over-Educated Grunt
7/31/2018 12:37:16 pm

I have some experience with Congressional funding and involvement in DoD affairs, so here goes.

Congress can direct funding to certain streams, and with appropriate language can direct down to the organizational level, but rarely involves itself at the individual level. In extreme cases this is done by "congressional adds" to funding programs (in my case, generally construction or maintenance programs, but in theory true for any acquisition type). Generally both congressional staff and the recipients recognize that this is a Bad Idea, and therefore avoid it, but the mechanisms are there. Conversely, members of Congress can turn their scrutiny on programs to make sure they never happen, such as John McCain's staff going on the warpath about DoD-run museums about a decade ago.

In theory, the executive branch leadership as a whole can do personnel actions targeted at a position in an organization, like changing compensation rates from the usual schedule, but except by hiring them as contractors (which has its own rules) it cannot explicitly target a job at a specific person.

It is therefore possible, albeit generally a Bad Idea, for Reid's office to put through a piece of funding written in such a way that it can only feasibly be spent on Bigelow, then provide further guidance to the DoD that this is how it is meant to be used. While he has no legal power to do so, any senior DoD official ignores a senior senator at his peril.

Having read the memo, this sounds pretty much like what happened.

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Giorgio's Steroid madness
7/31/2018 02:30:37 pm

YE OF LITTLE FAITH! IT'S ALL TRUE!!
ANCIENT ALIENS WILL BE BACK SOON TO PICK UP THE BITS OF METAL FALLING OFF THEIR CRAFT! BE WARNED!
ASK THE POLTERGEISTS, THEY WILL PROVE IT!

MUST DASH; FIRST TO MY BLIND HAIR STYLIST AND THEN OFF TO SEE IF TOM WILL LEND ME A FEW DOLLARS;
GOD KNOWS HE HAS MADE ENOUGH LOL.


(Shh don't let the dumb, stupid, gullible suckers know it's all a scam!)

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orang
7/31/2018 04:28:59 pm

Regarding Olmecs from Africa: I know that almost every archaeologist says that the Olmecs are simply a civilization that pre-dated the Maya and are ancestors of the Maya, and that the only evidence for the Africa theory is the negroid appearance of the stone heads. Archaeologists say that you can see many present day Mayan descendants who look like the stone heads, and these people are definitely not African descendants. However, when I look at the current day descendants, I do not see any resemblance to the stone heads. Furthermore, there are no skeletal remains of the Olmecs (for DNA purposes) because the soil whee they lived destroys the bones. Therefore, although I go with the current archaeological thinking, I would not be so definite about no African connection.

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Machala
7/31/2018 07:15:11 pm

I have never to subscribed to the 'one-size-fits-all' theory, when it comes to the history of migration and population of the America. Certainly, it is as plausible that migration may have moved south to north prior to and concurrently with the north to south migrations, following the coasts.
New evidences of early human habitation are constantly being found, a few sites have produced dates of human habitation as early as 50,000 years ago and more. Sites such as Pedra Furada - Brazil, Monte Verde - Chile, and Fells cave in Tierra del Fuego - Chile, are enabling us to paint a new, and more complete picture, of the early history of the Western Hemisphere.
We know that the Australoids ( Australian aborigines ) were in Australia as early as 66,000 years ago, and moving out towards New Zealand and were turning up in Lagoa Santa region, in the state of Minas Gerais, Brazil about 12,000 BCE.
( It seems highly unlikely that early Australoids could have crossed the vast expanse of the Pacific in boats that long ago. Perhaps a better theory is that they used a route around the Antarctic, just as the Amerindian used a route around the Arctic.)

At the time the Mongol Amerindians were coming across the Bering Straits ( 12,000 to 7,000 BCE ), the Olmec had already established themselves in humid,southern lowlands of the Gulf of Mexico.
Archaeologists consider the Olmecs to be one of only six “pristine” civilizations: these were cultures that developed on their own without the benefit of migration or influence from some other civilization.

Pre-mesoamerican African settlements in the Americas ? Dubious at best. Australoid aboriginal incursions ? certainly possible. Mongol-Asian ? Probable.

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/1/2018 07:22:18 am

The biggest reason to disbelieve the African or Asian connection to the Olmec, and indeed dozens of very similar notions, is that, somehow, these migrations did not leave behind the stuff Archaeologists look for: The remains of everyday life. Somehow these immigrants from other continents left only likenesses of their faces. No weapons, no pottery, none of their materials, etc. (Similar problems exist almost every time you hear about out-of-place inscriptions, or random out-of-place artifacts.)

Add to this the fact that the mainstream explanations simply work better.

I've seen images of present day folks in that area that definitely resemble those stone heads.

Finally isn't it funny how the same stone heads are used as "evidence" for Asian and African connections? Why it's almost like people don't always look like they stereotypically "should."

Perhaps, however, that even includes various sorts of American Indians?

-An Anonymous Nerd

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An Anonymous Nerd
7/31/2018 06:47:43 pm

Hello everyone.

There's been a lot in here so far so I doubt I can address all of it but I'll shoot for some of the main points folks have made or tried to make.

Also I'm replying to the main post for convenience -- it's easier than trying to reply to everyone in turn.

Regarding the accused lack of debunking of Black Nationalism on this blog.

Mr. Colavito actually does have this material, it's just called "Afrocentrism" instead of "Black Nationalism." But my understanding is that the material is the same. I don't see a category for it, but the stuff is there. Just Google:

jason colavito afrocentrism

and you'll see the articles.

As to why it's not a big focus. I only can speculate but I think it's pretty good speculation.

First of all I note that once you've debunked the White-centric Fringe you tend to have debunked the Black-centric Fringe too. It's the same material just with the obvious difference. However the most-effective way to debunk any of it is to point out that way more evidence exists for the mainstream explanations, and that those explanations do the job better than the Fringe does.

Second of all, Black Nationalism isn't as influential in our society as White Nationalism is. And therefore White Nationalist stuff is more important to debunk. So on that level alone it's understandable why more time's devoted to it here.

Why do I think White Nationalism to be more influential these days....Come on, folks. This really should be pretty obvious. But here we go.

Just to start, it was not Black Nationalists, for example, who drove a car into some folks, only to have the President of the United States proclaim there to be "good people on both sides." (Or was it fine people? I forget.)

Also if you Google

Donald Trump White Nationlaism

you'll see lots of articles about how the President of the United States is using White Nationalist type rhetoric. Not so for Black Nationalism. There is no Black Nationalist equivalent of Alex Jones in terms of popularity, funding, or mainstream audience. There have been several Republican candidates for various offices that have espoused White Nationalist ideas. Roy Moore for example openly voiced how things were better during a time when there was slavery because people looked out for each other, "even though we had slavery." There's the multi-term State Legislature guy who, upon prompting by a comic doing a bad accent, screamed racial slurs (among other things on his public record). Also there's the Bigfoot erotica guy who, aside from his odd fetish, also ran in some White Nationalist circles as I recall.

This brings me to....Which kind of color-based Nationalism is more "dangerous. " It seems to be taken as a given that both ideas are kinda dangerous, which is understandable. I'll take it as a given too for now.

So far the discussion has centered around racialist lines or lines of which one is more or less justified historically. I submit that both are pointless arguments and I submit that a better metric is as follows: The one that's more mainstream, and more accepted in society, is the more dangerous, if they both are dangerous at all.

And that means White Nationalism wins this particular distinction. Sorry folks.

Regarding the now-broken/removed Dade Schools link with all the Fringe History stuff?

Here's the Google Archive version:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cizuEGNILfYJ:socialsciences.dadeschools.net/files/African%2520american%2520history%2520lessons/African%2520and%2520Chinese%2520Presence%2520in%2520America%2520before%2520Columbus.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

and here's the Wayback Machine version:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150528215714/http://socialsciences.dadeschools.net/files/African%20american%20history%20lessons/African%20and%20Chinese%20Presence%20in%20America%20before%20Columbus.pdf

So, sadly, this is real. *sighs*

I happen to be more-familiar with the Chinese in America arguments (some British folks are really enamored with this argument and they like to write books). But I know the Afrocentrism stuff too and let me tell you....Both bunk. And again the best evidence of that is that there are better explanations that fit the facts just as well or better.

Africa and China held mighty and mighty interesting cultures without thinking that this stuff somehow makes them more interesting, and more mighty.

Regarding which skin color people would push a button and kill every person of another skin color: Are you folks seriously discussing that on this blog? How odd and inappropriate. Whomever started that particular line of discussion, the first one to raise such an odd question....Well, not really sure what I can do other than shake my head.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Americanegro
8/2/2018 03:16:18 am

Of course there's a black Alex Jones. It's AIDS patient looking Al Sharpton. He's killed at least one jew. Read a newspaper now and then won't you?

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Doc Rock
7/31/2018 07:02:19 pm

The heartland of the Olmecs was to the northwest of where the Mayan civilization emerged, although I think there was a bit of overlap at the extreme south end of Olmec territory. There are a number of photos that show contemporary Natives from those areas with similarly broad noses and thick lips. But then again, I met a guy from the upper Midwest once who was lily white Scandanavian-American and looked like he was the one who served as the model for one of those giant Olmec heads that look the most "negroid."

I was at a state archaeology conference once where a very elderly and distinguished looking gentleman (retired medical doctor, I think) gave a presentation on prehistoric linkages between Africa and MesoAmerica. The presentation was pretty much a slide show of pictures that he had taken of various statues from southern Mexico and Central America that he thought looked like black folks. The highlight of the presentation was when he clicked to a slide of an Olmec statue, looked up at the audience and solemnly stated, "look at those lips. Surely this man was a negro." The audience managed to keep the laughter to a minimum.

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An Anonymous Nerd
7/31/2018 08:41:14 pm

The real mystery to me is: How did that fellow get to give a presentation at an archaeology conference.

Archaeology definitely does need to be actively countering the Fringe and interacting with the public.

But an academic conference isn't the place for that. That's their own territory, and generally they tightly control who can present. You usually have to submit your abstract considerably in advance and sometimes your completed paper.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Doc Rock
7/31/2018 09:09:16 pm

It was a state archaeology conference. A lot of states have them, including an annual conference and a journal. These societies are a blend of professionals and amateurs. There often isn't any sort of review process for presenting a paper. An abstract and a check for registration fees generally gets you into a lot of them. It is generally accepted that the quality of presentations will vary and you will occasionally get some real eye rollers. But it is worth the risk because it provides amateurs a chance to rub elbows with pros and you sometimes get some pretty good papers.


On the other hand, the bar is set a lot higher for publication in the society journal. So, stuff that may be tolerated at a conference will be shot down in flames in the peer review process for the journal.

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An Anonymous Nerd
7/31/2018 10:39:26 pm

Was he on a panel with other papers? If so was it other Fringe folks?

Or was it very depressed graduate students, realizing their careers were shot to Hell before they began because their first presentation was on a panel with someone who thought that big lips equaled evidence of prehistoric trans-oceanic travel and settlement?

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Doc Rock
8/1/2018 05:52:14 am

I think that it was just a miscellaneous session. A lot of the state conferences don't get enough submissions to organize a lot if specialized sessions.

If I recall the gentleman was quite elderly. Pretty sure he was a retired medical doctor who had accumulated his "data" while touring Latin America. His age might have had some influence on his interpretation of the materials. So, people were inclined to give him a pass.

A 24 year old gras student presenting the same thing likely would have been in for a much different experience.

GodricGlas
7/31/2018 10:21:49 pm

“Yes, that’s me: Swearing and existential despair.”

Fuck yes!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hoG94Fq3Zj4

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An Anonymous Nerd
7/31/2018 10:40:24 pm

[[The despair, I suppose I have to cop to.]]

Me too.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Godric G.
7/31/2018 11:00:21 pm

“Me too.”

And me, too.

Let’s us celebrate!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRJfIPiJGY

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GodricTheGlas
7/31/2018 11:42:16 pm

Wait! sort about the last one; much too ambiguous.

Here’s the right one!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHBZFSYA12A

G. G.
8/1/2018 12:30:22 am

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl phthagn!

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          • Termier on Atlantis
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        • Lost Cities >
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        • The Many Wives of Jesus
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          • Fossils and the Supernatural
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          • Man During the Stone Age
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          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
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        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
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        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
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        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
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        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
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        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
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        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
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        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
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        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
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        • Noah's Ark Cables
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        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
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      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
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        • The Moon Hoax
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        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
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        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
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      • Orville Wright on UFOs
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      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
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      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
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      • Defining a Zombie
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      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
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      • The Mysterious Stranger
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      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
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        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Scrapbook
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      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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