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America Unearthed Spearhead Discoverers Walk Back Some Park Service Conspiracy Claims

3/4/2014

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When America Unearthed presented its story of the supposedly ancient Mexican spearhead found on the island of Maui (S02E13), it included the testimony of the two men who claimed to have found the object in 2009, Trevor Carter and Brian Axtell. The two men told Wolter that the National Park Service took no interest in their artifact until the week before the production team was scheduled to come to Maui to examine the artifact. On Facebook and in media accounts published before the show aired, the two men said they had “repeatedly” tried to interest the National Park Service in the artifact between 2009 and November 2013, when Park Service officials seized the spearhead because it had been illegally removed from Haleakala National Park against federal law, which prohibits removal of artifacts.
The two men and show host Scott Wolter used this as evidence that the Park Service was engaged in a conspiracy to suppress or oppose Scott Wolter’s research, a conspiracy Wolter has been promoting since the pilot episode, when he accused the U.S. Forest Service of similarly working to prevent him from accessing ancient sites.

As it turns out, an interesting correction was later appended to one of the news articles about the alleged conspiracy that ran on Maui Feed, and that correction explains a great deal about what really happened: “This story originally reported that Axtell and Carter tried repeatedly to get the National Park Service to examine their spearpoint. In fact, they say they only called once, right after they made their find.”

In other words, the Park Service did not act in 2009 (probably because they either believed this was not a genuine artifact or, more likely, never acted on the report due to bureaucracy and inertia), but did act in 2013 when H2 and/or Committee Films contacted the Park Service and began asking questions about the artifact and planned to make the material public. There was therefore no conspiracy to leap into action at the mention of Scott Wolter’s name but rather an attempt to enforce federal law when informed of a violation of it. This does not necessarily excuse the way Park Service officials reportedly chose to enforce the law by seizing the spearhead through subterfuge, according to Axtell and Carter, but the men’s later admission that they did not actively try to contact the Park Service between 2009 and 2013 does expose the alleged “conspiracy” as nothing more than hot air.

I tried to get a statement from the National Park Service, but representatives did not return my requests for comment. Apparently it takes about four years and a TV show to get action from them, so look for a response sometime in mid-2018.

It might also be interesting to note that Carter believes that the spearhead, which appears to be a modern fake to judge from images of it shown on TV, is possessed of spiritual “energy” and New Age powers.

16 Comments
RLewis
3/4/2014 03:02:14 am

As I recall in the AU episode, Park Services told them to call back later (perhaps they originally called on a weekend or after hours when no one of "authority" was available to speak to them). It seems they never called back.

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Mark E.
3/4/2014 02:52:35 pm

NPS is also running pretty lean due to budget cuts and may not have the staff to follow up on every call they get. Another thing to consider is that the NPS has a large number of volunteers and interns who may not known what to do in a case like this.

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Only Me
3/4/2014 03:04:04 pm

So, after the episode, we have someone leave a comment about the spearhead being found in the middle of a cliff face, not easily accessible, by someone who claims to know them personally. This person also said that the NPS was contacted and was apparently not interested. Now, thanks to the follow-up, we find out that the discoverers really didn't put much effort into getting the NPS involved for four years.

Sometimes that fifteen minutes of fame works against you.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
3/4/2014 04:54:50 pm

VERY, very, VERY few events are contemporaneously documented on video tape ...

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Only Me
3/4/2014 05:12:55 pm

True. But, we were lead to believe that Carter and Axtell had persistently tried to raise the NPS's attention to their find; now, that appears to be false. A simple check with the NPS could have verified their statement.

It isn't so much the timeframe; it's the abysmal effort at fact checking in favor of sensationalism.

Matt Mc
3/4/2014 11:55:32 pm

Rev. I would agree with you two years ago but in this day and age everyone who enjoys outdoor activities from climbing to kayaking has a GoPro camera, they are so cheap and so easy to use that they have flooded places with videos of people documenting their activities. Of course this was not the case in 2009 but for the future I do see every in the future almost everything being documented.

RLewis
3/5/2014 07:53:53 am

Jason, did you receive the same "blow-off" response from Park Services that SW noted on his blog? You know, making ridiculous references to "laws" and "criminal investigations" as somehow giving them the "legal right" to hold onto the spearhead?

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Jason Colavito link
3/5/2014 07:58:30 am

No, they simply never returned my messages. Interesting that they opened a criminal investigation. It seems a bit extreme for the situation, but I suppose that it's standard protocol to investigate prima facie evidence of a crime as a crime.

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Dr. Leo Spahchemen
3/6/2014 01:37:41 am

Here's a reproduction of that call from Trevor Carter and Brian Axtell to the NPS:

TREVOR: Uhhhmm yeah, so like I want to talk to someone about some stuff I found.

NPS: Are you asking about the park's lost-and-found?

TREVOR: Heheheheheh! Dewd! Heheheheheh - I'm talking about, like wondrous treasures, man!

BRIAN [in background]: Yo! Brah! Got any Doritos?

TREVOR: Dewderino! Doritos would be so totally advantageous right now!

NPS: Excuse me? What exactly are you talking about ? You lost a bag of chips at the park?

TREVOR [in a loud whisper]: Dewd! I'm so baked!

NPS: You lost a bag of baked Doritos? I don't think anyone has turned in such an item but if you want to stop by in person tomorrow morning, you could check.

TREVOR: Aw man, I don't remember why you called me, but do you have the number for Pizza Joe's handy? I needs me some fresh pie, like pronto, dewd!

=============================


Changing topics to another ridiculous and comical figure, why do so many of you waste your time responding to Rev. Phil? He's a troll. He's never once answered a question with a real, substantive answer, and he's never once posted anything that was worth reading, just sophomoric hyperbole. Honestly, you should just ignore him and maybe he'll go away.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
3/9/2014 06:11:31 am

"Dr. Leo Spahchemen" (whoever you are) …

Methinks thou doth protest too much ...

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.
5/2/2014 09:33:37 pm

Rev Phil, this Troll has about 200 to 500 separate "personas"
here, often there can be 3 or 5 of them with short replies to
each other that play on a crude pun or look inconsequential.
i just took the string back about two months, and in just the
short threads. its easy to slip in and out of identities and net
monikers, i try to keep to a GONZO punctuation pattern as i
try to be creative, but these "zingers' are often one-liners and
at a 13 year old's level. its the vast number of them that does
suggest a rather ambitious hydra at work. Normally i'd blame
Jason as admin for these dirty tricks but he just got a book to
the publisher, a truly Herculean effort. Gunn has called our bold
Troll out several times like this, also. I've been distracted also.
The pattern is accumulative. Its repetitive. It becomes obvious.
its postings are less often long paragraphs, they do blackberry.

Matt Mc
3/9/2014 12:51:36 pm

"Revv. Phiil Gotsch"

Methinks thou doth protest too much.....

it is just a blog you should lighten up

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Dr. Leo Spahchemen
3/9/2014 02:16:27 pm

Matt, please don't feed the troll.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
3/9/2014 02:39:03 pm

"Dr. Leo Spahchmen" (whoever you are) …

LOL … You're not helping whatever "case" you're trying to make ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch
3/9/2014 02:40:38 pm

Ummm … I'M not one who is trying to silence those who disagree with me ...

Reply
.
5/2/2014 09:35:15 pm

true...


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