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"Ancient Aliens" Creator Kevin Burns: "All Religions" Are "Based on Extraterrestrials"

10/30/2016

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​So, it seems that I do everything the hard way. I learned to read Latin, Spanish, French, and other languages so I could translate texts from as close to the original sources as possible. Meanwhile, 73-year-old novelist John Crowley is making money off of a “translation” of the foundational Rosicrucian text The Chemical Wedding by Christian Rosencruetz. As the New Yorker reported, “Because he doesn’t know German, Crowley pieced together the book by comparing various English translations, deciding on the most readable and sensible interpretation of a given passage and then putting all of it in a new voice.” Doesn’t that take the cake? I know a guy did a version of the Odyssey that way years ago, but I can’t say I’m thrilled to see that Kickstarter funders paid Crowley and his publisher at Small Beer Press $73,000 to rewrite someone else’s English translation without an understanding of the underlying text. I felt bad that I had to use the French edition of the Akhbar al-zaman for my translation because I can’t speak Arabic. I should start demanding money to rewrite other people’s translations of texts, too!
 
Such is the world we live in today.
Yesterday I discussed an interview that Ancient Aliens executive producer Kevin Burns gave to Tony Sokol for Den of Geek, and in that interview both Burns and Sokol restrained themselves in discussing the ancient astronaut theory and conspiracy theories in a rather sober way, relatively speaking. But it turns out that both men were engaging in a bit of subterfuge, and Burns is deceptive when he alleges that he is an “open minded skeptic” who doubts many conspiracy theories. In the second part of their conversation, published on Entertainment 2morrow, Burns went full-on crazy, spouting extreme and somewhat disturbing conspiracy theories that should give viewers pause about the man behind Ancient Aliens.
 
In this interview, Burns makes no bones about his belief that religions are all based on space aliens. He said this in response to his own assertion that Hindus worship space aliens:
Their religion is totally based on extraterrestrials as, by the way, all religions are.  I think that’s why our show is eerily compatible with religion: because [e]very single religion is based on the idea of angels or creatures coming from the sky and either creating man or giving man knowledge and technology. Every single one, from ancient Greece and Rome to Norse Mythology. To those things really fascinate me. 
​This is prima facie untrue. In one of Ancient Aliens’ favorite myths, that of the fish-man Oannes, long suspected of being a space alien (as Carl Sagan once hypothesized), Oannes came up from under the sea, not down from the sky. The Greeks believed that the old gods, the Titans, were born out of the Earth, and the new gods, the Olympians, were born on the Earth. Prometheus descended not from the sky but from Mount Olympus to give fire to mankind. The Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, and Hebrews all believed that the “sky” was actually a metal or clay dome over the Earth, so there was no literal domain in the sky. We could go on, but why bother? That said, it is a near-universal that humans envision the cosmos a series of stacked planes, with one or more underworlds, the Earth, and one or more heavens. Note that Burns omits the near-universal religious belief in the underworld.
 
Burns may not be an out-and-out ancient astronaut theorist, but he revealed himself to be a huge Graham Hancock fan. In the first half of his conversation, he quoted Hancock’s “species with amnesia” line, but in the second half he said that he believes that Noah’s Flood was real and happened at the end of the last Ice Age, that the Ice Age ended when a comet or meteor hit the Earth, and that this cataclysm destroyed a lost ancient civilization. You will recognize this as the content of Hancock’s Magicians of the Gods from last year.
 
So far, so bad. But it gets worse. Burns advocates a conspiracy theory which holds that the statue of Freedom atop the U.S. Capitol is really the Iroquois sky goddess, placed there in honor of space aliens. He bases this on her feathered headdress, seemingly unaware that she wears this headdress not because she is an alien sky goddess but because Jefferson Davis refused to allow Freedom to wear the  traditional Phrygian cap of liberty because, as he said at the time, it suggested manumission rather than natural freedom, though others have suggested that the real objection was that it might be seen as a rebuke to the institution of slavery.
 
Worse than that, he falsely believes that Hindus believe in the Akashic Record, a cosmic collection of universal knowledge. This is a Theosophical concept, not a Hindu one, but based on it he concludes that “all” geniuses engage in meditation to access the Akashic Record, which he likens to advanced technology:
​“It sounds suspiciously like Wi-Fi and the Cloud,” Burns says. “We’re building a cloud with the collective intelligence of the past and, arguably, the future that we can connect with. How do we know that we are not, through computers and the cloud and all the wireless technology, just replicating an ancient system of communication that existed tens of thousands of years ago?”
Let that soak in for moment.
 
The executive producer of Ancient Aliens can’t tell the difference between cloud computing, in which individual computers access data and applications over the internet from where they are stored on external servers, and a supernatural claim that all knowledge exists in a spiritual dimension that we can access by wishing really hard. Where does he think that the ancients or the aliens are storing this data? Through what means do thoughts access this data? Through what medium is it transmitted? Surely we should be able to measure and capture such data.
 
But Burns is a supernaturalist at heart, and these kinds of practical concerns aren’t important. The important thing is to find in fringe history an excuse for believing that myths and legends are real, that life has a dimension beyond the material, and that the individual still stands a chance at understanding and overturning the uncomfortable conclusions of materialist science.
 
21 Comments
David Bradbury
10/30/2016 11:01:26 am

"Jefferson Davis refused to allow Freedom to wear the traditional Phrygian cap of liberty because it might be seen as a rebuke to the institution of slavery"
- is not the reason given on the web page to which you linked. There, Davis' view on the cap traditionally given by Roman masters to slaves they were freeing, is quoted as:
"its history renders it inappropriate to a people who were born free and should not be enslaved."
[apparently from a letter of 15 January 1856]

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Jason Colavito link
10/30/2016 12:15:40 pm

The accounts vary; the official version is the one linked to, though many have argued that Jefferson's publicly stated reason was a politically convenient excuse. It would require more space than I have, but the essence of the argument is that David kept coming up with new objections to the statue in an concerted effort to tamp down its associations with liberty and freedom. I've amended the line, though, to make clearer the distinction between fact and inference.

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Time Machine
10/30/2016 11:07:00 am

>>>“translation” of the foundational Rosicrucian text The Chemical Wedding by Christian Rosencruetz.<<<

Modern Translation
https://www.amazon.com/Rosicrucian-Trilogy-Translations-Founding-Documents/dp/1578636035/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1477839978&sr=1-6&keywords=chemical+wedding

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A C
10/30/2016 11:07:36 am

"Such is the world we live in today."

I try to put as little stock in Friedrich Nietzsche as possible, but if there's any mass culture that holds views that represent a commitment and aspiration to mediocrity its fringe publishing and its anti-academic rhetoric.

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Time Machine
10/30/2016 11:21:31 am

Andreae denounced his Rosicrucian fiction many times in various publications. Only John Warwick Montgomery translated those passages in Andreae's works.

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E.P. Grondine
10/30/2016 01:54:56 pm

Hi Jason -

You use the word "cult" to discuss the belief in Ancient Aliens visits,
"The Cult of Ancient Aliens". You may as well speak of "the Cult of Star Trek" or "the Cult of Star Wars".

I use the word "cult" as defined by Steve Hasan in "combating Cult Mind Control".

You note the appearance theosophist cult archaeology in "Ancient Aliens", and that is part of its danger:
that people searching for ancient alien contacts may unwittingly be lured into the theosophist cult.
Other dangers are the racism it promotes, as well as the complete ignoranc of ancient history and archaeology.

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Jason Colavito link
10/30/2016 02:01:19 pm

If you're referring to "The Cult of Alien Gods," my 2005 book, I didn't choose the title. The publisher did, from a suggestion by S. T. Joshi. I did not describe ancient astronaut believers as a cult in the book.

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E.P. Grondine
10/30/2016 06:01:14 pm

Its funny hos that happens - the publisher was looking for sales to those who felt threatened by the ancient alien hypothesis,.

Speaking about funny, its funny to me how evidence of a recent cosmic impact in India is used to support a hypothesis of nuclear war between aliens. But then see my piece on theosophist cult leader Richard Kieninger for more information on aliens in theosophy.

Time Machine
10/30/2016 09:31:52 pm

>>theosophist

Boring....

E.P. Grondine
10/31/2016 10:33:18 am

Hi TM -

">>theosophist

Boring...."

But Richard was a sexual predator, and later in life became involved with the Republic of Texas militia group, running a financial con. Aside from that, you have the role of German theosophy in the rise of the Nazis. And Agustus and his pretty much younger wife Alice.

If you were trying to come up with fictional characters you could not duplicate this bunch of real life ones. I'm pretty sure that someday a better writer will stumble into the material and run away to the bank with it.

Shane Sullivan
10/30/2016 02:51:36 pm

"Where does he think that the ancients or the aliens are storing this data?"

Please don't ask them that, Jason. You *know* they're going to say that the moon is a small Jupiter Brain, or that the hollow Earth contains a massive data drive or something.

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Kal
10/30/2016 03:42:05 pm

The AA guys are desperate to make their 'secret knowledge' a kind of cult, as in a religiously driven site for rituals that within their 'secret order' make them 'special' and therefore not like other people. It is a self eating snake, a creature devouring its own head. It cannot become an actual religion as the 'leadership' by nature discards 'authority' in the form of 'academics and governments are hiding it from us, so don't trust anyone'. This in itself eventually dooms them to obscurity, but it is funny here and now to watch them ramble on like this all matters somehow, somewhere. Although it has entered the mainstream as a hip new notion to think aliens are somehow among us and controlling us, it really is a disguised older notion of 'those other people control us', before we looked at such things. It can;t for them be an inward facing look at some kind of pathos, because to actually look at the 'truth' is subjective and contrary to their conspiracy theories. If the actual truth is that many of their leaders (an oxymoron) are actually crazy as bed bugs on a June day, then most of their stories fall utterly apart, if not all, under any kind of skeptical scrutiny.

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Pacal
10/30/2016 03:48:29 pm

The whole "species with amnesia" bit that Hancock is putting forth is similar to Velikovsky with his notion but forth in various of his books that mankind was suffering from a massive case of amnesia and repressed memory. (See especially Velikovsky's book Mankind in Amnesia.)

Velikovsky was a Freudian who believed that the memory of traumatic events is repressed and what is left is screen memories and dreams etc., that when properly decoded would in fact be coded references to real events that were far too traumatic to be fully and clearly remembered.

Velikovsky was trying to explain why there seemed to be virtually no evidence in Human myth and lore, historical writings etc., of his various planetary collisions, (Actually near collisions.) and instead a mass of legends which like dreams "must" be interpreted has coded references to a different reality.

Hancock thinks he is being bold and daring when instead he is being ho hum old fashioned and we've heard it all before.

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Titus pullo
10/30/2016 07:39:06 pm

Informative I had not read that interpretation before, tnks

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E.P. Grondine
10/30/2016 06:17:27 pm

Hi Jason -

"Sokol asked Burns if he believes in the Illuminati, and Burns cited right wing conspiracy theories to explain why he believes the Earth is secretly controlled by a cabal of Templars / Freemasons / international bnkers. "

We're watching an election in which none of the gutless wonders in D.C and N.Y. who call them selves "journalists" bothered to ask any of the people running what they saw as the end of the Israeli-Palestiian conflict, and what the US role should be in brinigng that to a peaceful resolution.

We've seen tons og "news reports" on Hillary's emails, but no news reports on the attack politics of Newt Gingrich, Jucicial Watch, his agency for those attacks, and no mention of the cabal of billionaries who finance it.

To fill in those gaps Burns cited right wing conspiracy theories to explain why he believes the Earth is secretly controlled by a cabal of Templars / Freemasons /. You have to ask if Burns is not part of a right wing disinformation campaign to obfuscate "the" truth.

And now for your listening pleasure:
https://youtu.be/PDBOwPORHGU
enjoy your paychecks, you lazy worthless chimps

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El Cid
10/30/2016 07:14:02 pm

Once again it seems that people think the actual results of post-Ice Age sea level rises are boring if it doesn't represent some childish seeking of a universal flood, and actual ancient cultures emerging into civilization are boring if they aren't connected to some fantasy super-advanced vanished white predecessor civilization.

It's really a shame.

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Brian
10/31/2016 09:10:13 am

Oh, that's just pathetic. Crowley's still writing?

While Crowley's "translation" surely drags down the already low level of our intellectual discourse, don't worry: your own integrity will always be there for you, no matter how the big names are mucking up.

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Tom
10/31/2016 02:25:43 pm

Pardon me, but since the suggestion is that all religions are based on "factual" contact with extra-terrestrials and there are tens of thousands of recorded gods and goddesses, there should be more than enough genuine evidence remaining for people not to bother making things up.
So where are the ancient manufacturies, the rare metal mines, the waste products of any hi-tech industrial processes, the spikes in heavy metal pollution in the ice cap cores or the presence of trace elements not found in the Solar System?
The Aliens must have been either so very advanced not to need technology or extremely lazy.

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Bob Jase
10/31/2016 03:55:46 pm

Guess I'd better hurry up on my translations of the Voynich Manuscript, the Easter Island Rong Rongo Boards and the complete works of Dr. Seuss.

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Jennygirl00
11/3/2016 05:36:15 am

thats funny because I've always thought the ancient alien theory is in no way the basis of all religion but quite the opposite. The whole ancient alien theory claims that all religious figures such as angles were mistaken for aliens. They were mistaken because the ancients were too dumb to know the difference. People didn't make up different religions because they saw an "Angel" or an "alien". People made up religions to give themselves something to believe in and to have someth No to hold themselves accountable to. It's much easier for people to believe in something and have faith than to except the unknown.

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American Negro
11/3/2016 03:20:12 pm

“for moment" should be ”for a moment“.

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