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Ancient Aliens in Early Chinese Myth

12/26/2012

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On last week’s Ancient Aliens, John DeSalvo mentioned in passing that “ancient Chinese kings” claimed that beings came “down from the sky” to give them various texts and information. As I mentioned in my review of the episode, I was not familiar enough with Chinese mythology to know what the heck he was talking about. I’ve been doing some research into this undeveloped claim to try to figure out what he was talking about, and I think I know.

He seems to be referring to the myth of Fu Xi (or Fuxi), the Chinese culture hero who, like Oannes and Osiris and the Fallen Angels, taught culture to the benighted peasantry. Fu Xi specifically was thought to have taught writing, fishing, and trapping.

According to myth, after a great flood (a story possibly influenced by Near Eastern tales, which we’ve discussed before) destroyed all humanity, Fu Xi and his wife Nüwa climbed a mountain and prayed to the Jade Emperor to bless their union so they could procreate and repopulate the world. This Jade Emperor, I suppose, must be the sky being DeSalvo was thinking of. He was a being who lived a prolonged but mortal life before attaining immortality following a meditation that lasted three million years. Upon completing his meditation, he ascended to heaven where he defeated an evil demon then sitting upon the heavenly throne, becoming the king of the gods. Obviously, this is a cryogenically frozen alien awakening to defeat an invasive species on the mother ship.

Anyway, in Fu Xi’s time, the Jade Emperor was long-established as the divine king, and he didn’t come “down from the sky” to visit Fu Xi. The human, however, did receive some supernatural texts, according to tradition. In a story Helena Blavatsky later borrowed as the mythic origin for her Book of Dzyan and inspired Lovecraft’s Pnakotic Manuscripts, Fu Xi allegedly received a pre-human text from the spirit realm, the I Ching (Yijing), through supernatural channeling. However, the aliens didn’t simply deliver a book to him; instead, in one version of the story Fu Xi allegedly discovered the I Ching’s 64 hexagrams in the markings on the back of a turtle or a dragon-horse. (This is because turtle shells were used for divination in ancient China.) However, other versions of the story merely make Fu Xi the inventor of the hexagrams.

And how alien are we to take a figure like Fu Xi, the first of the Three Sovereigns, who was conceived when his mother became pregnant by stepping in the footprint of a giant (apparently a common means of Chinese mythic conception), and he was thus born with a snake’s tail? Here’s how he was described in one of China’s oldest histories, Sima Qian’s Records of the Grand Historian (109-91 BCE):

T‘aihao (Great Brilliant), or P‘aohsi, of the surname Fêng (wind), superseding Suijên (fire producer), succeeded Heaven as King. His mother, named Huahsü, trod in the footprint of a giant at Thunder lake, and bore P‘aohsi at Ch‘êngchi. He had a serpent's body, a man's head, and the virtue of a sage. 'Looking up he contemplated the forms exhibited in the heavens, and looking down he observed the patterns shown on the earth: he observed also around him the ornamental markings of the birds and beasts, and the different suitabilities of the soil. As to what was near he found things for consideration in his own person, and as to the remote things in general. He first delineated the eight Trigrams in order to show fully the virtus of the gods, and to classify the qualities of the myriads of things. He worked out a system of recording by tablets in lieu of knotted cords,' and marriage rites were then first instituted, a pair of skins being given as wedding presents. 'He made nets to teach men how to snare animals and to fish,' and so he was called Fuhsi (hidden victim). He kept beasts for sacrificial purposes in his kitchen, and so he was called P‘aohsi (kitchen victims). There being a dragon omen, he enrolled dragons among his officers, and they were styled dragon leaders. He made the thirty-five-stringed lute. Ruling under the influence of the element Wood, he directed his thoughts to the season of spring; thus the Book of Changes says 'The god came forth from Orient brightness, and made (the year begin with) the first month of spring.' This god was Great Brilliant. His capital was in Ch‘ên. In the East he built a fêng monument on Mount T‘ai. Having reigned eleven years he died. […]

Some various other early Chinese mythic figures have been accused of being aliens on the grounds that any mention of “the stars” or “the sky” in a myth demands us to accept that the being in question must have been an extraterrestrial; however, I can’t find any other stories where a space being is specifically credited with delivering “information” or texts to human beings. There are a group of (human) heroes credited with the origin of various inventions. For example, Shennong, the legendary Divine Farmer, was an early sovereign of China who taught agriculture and alchemy. But he is not described as a space being but rather a human who became a god after his death.

As with all traditional stories, there are many variants of all of these, so it is not possible to state very much definitively about any of these characters. Looking at the early sections of Sima Qian’s text, we see something else: There is almost no mention of the early Chinese rulers going to or coming from the sky. All of these events very clearly seem to be happening on the earth, with only occasional, largely symbolic, references to Heaven.

In any case, none of the myths seem to agree with John DeSalvo. The “gods” did not visit ancient Chinese “kings” (emperors) but were instead themselves the ancient Chinese leaders. This is mostly clearly shown in the case of the Yellow Emperor, a figure Henri Maspero and Marcel Granet persuasively argued in Danses et légendes de la Chine ancienne in the 1920s was originally a god who had been historicized in later myth, much the way the Greeks and the Norse rationalized their gods as allegedly real ancient human kings mistakenly worshipped by later generations. Many of the early Chinese mythic kings and emperors were apparently originally gods.

6 Comments
Frank
12/28/2012 03:45:46 pm

if you want to learn more about ancient Chinese beliefs, one good book is "finding God In Ancient China". they cover more info about. how ancient china worshipped the God of the Bible, but the beginning part of the book, the authors discuss the various levels of chinese historical documents and their validity. it touches briefky on myth as well.

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jack
1/4/2013 05:46:57 am

I am in Chinese in origin, I sort of enjoy the whole Ancient Alien nonsense, they are perfect example of stretching things out much like religions in ways of trickery.
But whenever the Ancient Alien guys went for stuff about china like picking the dragon being the eastern version of the flying snake, that is something wont stand with any one really know about Chinese.

The greatest reference in the stories related to the Jaded Emperor lives in the Sky Palace was reference of: One day in the Sky equals 3 years on the ground (earth). This can be explained as going to the SKY as travel in some space ship on a return trip that required 3 Earth Years!

For some real 'alien' reference, one has to Shan Hai Jing, straight transalte as 'The montain and Sea scroll' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_Hai_Jing

This piece has the name closest to what Chinese would call an ancient National Geography mag / encyclepedia. IN it there were records of dozens of 'people' living around the areas around middle kingdom, many which are either related to big foot, hobbits or aliens depend on how you interpret the ancient words.

However, i do think the guys throwing out Ancient Alien series has the capability to find one of the volumes to read and understand what was described in it.

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Greg Strandberg link
6/1/2014 08:14:39 pm

Good analysis here. I especially like the cryo-chamber.

I'm researching a book on ancient Chinese history and after several hours of research tonight it was clear there were many similarities to alien stories I've read. I'm not sure any are true, but then myth and history are already pretty much combined back then.

What's interesting also is the use of the nine tripod cauldrons, and how these could have been some form of early messaging system (perhaps much like the pyramids were being using to generate electricity and create a worldwide internet-like system). It seems that Huangdi especially may have been wanting to get back, or been trying to keep tabs on his progress. They supposedly recorded his life and deeds, but never made noises or created electrical charges again when he was gone.

The use of Xirang, some kind of otherworldly substance to dam the flooding rivers, is also suspect. Where did this stuff come from and where did Gun get it? He's supposed to have stolen it from the Supreme Divinity (another name for Shandi or the Jade Emperor, if they're different). But then the Jade Emperor sent Zhu Rong to kill Gun, even though they were brothers.

Lots of weird stuff.

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Alijeh
7/25/2015 11:17:22 am

Perhaps a three million yr meditation was actually him staying on a planet where years spent there meant thousands upon thousands of years were flashing by here on Earth. And while he was on that planet he defeated whomever had usurped or seized a powerful position over there.


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Vincent
9/2/2015 07:54:21 pm

The analysis connecting ancient Chinese myths seems too far fetched. If you study more about the development of Chinese religions, you would notice the stories do not match modern alien-related interpretations. The concept of Jade Emperor and the heaven gods were purposely invented by the Daoists when Buddhism became popular in China, threatening the survivability of Daoism, around 300-900 ac. Before that, Doaism focused on self-meditation and its concepts were too complicated for the general public to understand. Without mythical god-like figures, Daoism could not compete with
Buddhism. That is why they had to imitate the religious practice from Buddism and fabricated a heaven court governed by gods.

On the other hand, stories of Fuxi did not come from ancient China. He is a mythical figure of Hmong people, a minority in China today, in Guanxi province, which was not part of ancient Chinese empires or kingdoms. Its origin is irrelevant to Daoism nor Buddhism. The later generations or authorities sometimes may blend ancient tales from different cultures.

You see how the stories do not match.

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Kat
4/20/2017 05:30:34 am

That's only your interpretation, and it seems incomplete.

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