Before we begin today, a quick note that one of the men who participated in the failed insurrection at the Capitol rioted and threw a wooden post while wearing a Giorgio Tsoukalos Ancient Aliens sweatshirt. I need not point out exactly how on-brand it is for angry, rioting right-wingers to also be Ancient Aliens fans.
Ancient Origins published a racist article this week by a writer from India attempting to explain how the impetus for civilization emerged from the Aryan racial group, via Noah's son Japeth. Although the article is not white nationalist in the explicit sense we see in more extreme publications, it clearly has sympathies with the old Victorian ideas about a superior Aryan race stretching from India to England. Indeed, the article starts in the Near East, folds in India, and concludes by celebrating the tall, blond supermen who supposedly first colonized the British Isles. Alexander Jacob even cites outdated twentieth-century scholarship (Gordon Childe, who died in 1957) to support his views and brings in Victorian skull morphology studies to argue that various ancient populations were genetically distinct races derived from one of Noah's three sons, with--of course--the Aryan sons of Japheth being superior.
We've been over this racist nonsense many times before, but even so, it was still shocking to see Ancient Origins running a piece that openly spoke about superior races.
According to Gordon Childe, however, the predominant racial element in the earliest graves in the region from Elam to the Danube is the ‘Mediterranean’. So we may presume that these early cultures were founded by the genius of that broad racial group. The dolichocephalic Mediterranean, or “brown”, race may thus have constituted the earliest strata of the populations of Asia, Egypt and Europe.
Jacobs, being Indian, of course wants to link everything to India, so in his view, the master race is actually the "proto-Dravidians" of India, whom he alleges seeded all of civilization. "It is possible that the proto-Hurrians, or proto-Dravidians, typified the original Noachidian family," he writes. Everyone is ultimately a corruption of an Indian original:
Gordon Childe’s conjecture regarding the ‘Mediterranean’ aspect of the earliest populations of the large region between West Asia and Central Europe seems to be confirmed archaeologically by the fact that the graves of the Āryan culture of Bishkent (ca. 1700-1500 BC) related to the northern Bactro-Margiana Archaeological Complex (BMAC) have also yielded mostly Mediterranean skeletons.
In sum, Jacobs implies that the mixing of Aryan and Dravidian in India restored the "dynastic" glory of the House of Noah and in so doing created a civilizing force that eventually became the ruling house that led all other ancient peoples to glory. Convenient, typical, and racist.
1/16/2021 04:04:11 pm
Judging by the guy in the lower left photo and pictures of several other persons of interest that have been posted online the bar has been lowered significantly to be considered an angry racist aryan right-wing rioter. Maybe they are Dravidians.
1/16/2021 05:59:13 pm
Based on minority voting trends one could expect to see a wee bit of diversity among pro-Donalds. The added irony is having a Greek as a whitish power icon. This ain't your Granddaddy's KKK type folks. Interesting dynamics regarding popular perceptions of race.
1/21/2021 01:43:27 pm
Dr. Whiskey on the Rocks
1/21/2021 11:06:06 pm
I dont recall condoning Antifa style tactics. On a couple occasions when I interacted with those folks I told them that if they really wanted to bash the fash I could direct them to some bars that are known hangouts for honest to god Neo-Nazi biker types and they could bash away. Their interest in taking Nazi scalps (apparently a popular expression in that crowd) suddenly waned.
1/22/2021 12:52:02 pm
I hear some leather sniffing going on here.
1/22/2021 02:14:08 pm
Here is an address especially for you Kent:
1/22/2021 05:36:37 pm
Uh, Kent, if u think about it long enough after your meds have kicked in, your comments pretty much illiustrated my point.
This is indeed very dated research, and in our days simply pseudoscience and even racist. The basic idea behind this all is the discovery that the indo-germanic languages are related to each other, from Sanskrit to Iranian to Slavic to Germanic to Roman languages. Nevertheless, race and language resp. culture are not the same.
1/16/2021 08:40:31 pm
No discussion of this concept is complete without a mention of Tilak's Arctic Home in the Vedas.
Thank you, interesting, but also this book is only a late cry of the French ideas from the 18th century. Atlantipedia has it:
1/17/2021 09:09:42 pm
Wow, you can condescendingly worm Atlantis into any discussion, can't you?
Kent, the Vedas do not contain such stories. Such authors only claim that they would. It's the same as with claims that Atlantis is mentioned in the Bible. It is not.
1/18/2021 09:39:17 am
I never said the Vedas contained ANY stories. You are simply unwilling to admit there is a book you don't know about, in your usual condescending manner.
1/16/2021 05:26:39 pm
This is all silly and a waste of time. Thanks for documenting this, Capt. J. Incredibly valuable. On levels that outstretch the focus of current data collection.
1/17/2021 10:42:34 am
Calling these morons academics is giving them too much credit. I have seen nothing like this coming from the various archaeological type magazines I read.
Crash55, the author is indeed an academic, and he is active in academia in universities in UK and the US and Canada. It does not help to deny that he is an academic. He is one. Whereas Jason Colavito e.g. has no PhD and therefore cannot go "officially" as academic. He "only" majored in both anthropology and journalism.
1/17/2021 07:44:53 pm
An academic is someone who works in academia. Where does Jacobs work? I did a search based on the name but got an Indian Police Chief.
1/17/2021 08:12:15 pm
When I wrote the above I didn't realize you could click on the byline at Ancient Origins. That gives a bio that does little to impress. It reads like a wanna be academic. Someone that couldn't cut it in academic history so he decided to bland history and philosophy.
1/17/2021 08:46:00 pm
"Indian police officers can't write articles or have a hobby" = racist
1/17/2021 09:32:07 pm
Kent, I see you have slithered out from under your rocking again your ignorance and lack of reading comprehension. I do see you can manage to copy and paste his bio. That must really be a test of your abilities.
1/17/2021 10:23:09 pm
An author with his academic background writing on this topic in this venue is like a geologist like schoch writing on egyptology in much the same venue or a zoologist like what's his name claiming to see ogham script in every set of scratches on a cave wall in new england. Crazy is crazy even if it has PhD after its name.
1/17/2021 10:43:24 pm
Calm the heck down, Scooter.
1/17/2021 11:04:28 pm
The big difference is Schoch is an actual academic. He is as a professor at BU. His ideas on about the Sphinx may be crazy but he does publish in the academic arena. http://www.bu.edu/cgs/profile/robert-schoch/
CRASH55, this is a very interesting discussion. You say, an academic is someone who works in academia. But what is academia?
1/18/2021 08:04:36 am
"Crazy is crazy even if it has PhD after its name."
1/18/2021 09:55:58 am
His name is Jacob not Jacobs. You sound like an angry bitter old man whose PhD does nothing for him. I'm sorry I triggered you. Not really.
1/18/2021 10:07:35 am
Kent, My second post was submitted before my first post was posted. In fact they were submitted even closer than the posting times suggest. So what I see is someone who is quick to be a troll and baselessly through out accusations of racism. Who is the one measuring parts?? Everyone knows you are a troll with little to add.
1/18/2021 10:20:28 am
T. Franke, I think what we are seeing here is the fringe tossing that word around to either lend credibility or identify a target based on their need at the time.
1/18/2021 10:48:25 am
1/18/2021 10:52:28 am
Crash55, I see the point in making a difference between academics and researchers, but it does not help much to identify quality.
1/18/2021 12:39:30 pm
It is not uncommon for people with advanced degrees to work in a non-University-based research center but hold adjunct appointments at a University and occasionally teach a class or classes. Do they become an academic the minute they set foot on the college campus but then cease to be an academic the minute they leave campus? Some people work as faculty at the University where they earn their Ph.D. or function as such while working a Post-Doctoral Fellows. Do they suddenly cease to be academics if they graduate and take a research position outside of a university setting. Some people jump back and forth between university appointments and non-university research positions during the course of their careers. Does that mean that they can only comment as an academic during the times when they held university positions?
1/18/2021 05:26:59 pm
Kent you really are a fucking moron and a troll after this post I am done acknowledging your existence as doing adds nothing to the discussion.
1/18/2021 05:39:39 pm
T. Franke and R&D,
1/18/2021 09:31:33 pm
As an academic who hasn't had enough Chard to want to get caught up in a discussion of how to define academic I will roll the dice for an intelligent discussion and raise another issue. It is not a sin for someone to develop research interests outside of their original graduate training and expertise. At one point in my career I found myself doing research far removed from what I had done as a graduate student and during the early stage of my career. However, I spent lot of time immersing myself in the new relevant literature and had to do a lot of work under the supervision of senior colleges with expertise in the new area.
1/18/2021 09:54:03 pm
The Curious Case of Mr. Crash:
1/19/2021 12:02:40 am
Mr. Rock makes a good point. Linus Pauling is a case in point. It's just sad that he didn't live to win his 3rd Nobel Prize.
1/19/2021 09:52:19 am
1/19/2021 12:02:55 pm
" I am not sure what exactly field PhD in History of Ideas is in."
1/19/2021 08:23:13 pm
1/20/2021 10:12:09 am
There is a Journal of the History of Ideas published thru Penn State so it is a real thing. One of the California schools has a program in The History of Consciousness. These types of programs come and go. Maybe the one at Penn State went.
1/20/2021 03:41:04 pm
1/22/2021 05:21:06 pm
1/25/2021 10:30:12 pm
People get too hung up on a PhD. My 9th grade civics teacher had a PhD and was a former archaeologist. Apparently archeology doesn't pay the bills. Around here, unless you can cure something or cut on somebody your PhD's nothing more than Pizza Hut Delivery. You're going to need a second job to pay back your student loans. Doctor C. Not only taught ninth grade civics, he also flipped houses. It's how he afforded his Porsche that some students chose to vandalize on a daily basis.
1/26/2021 10:04:02 am
Pizza Hut must offer its delivery people a damn nice salary, insurance, retirement and vacation package in your area if it beats out working a job that requires a Ph.D.
1/26/2021 10:27:59 am
1/26/2021 11:46:33 am
Just for comparison, I work for the DoD and have 27 years of service. I have made it to the GS15 level staying purely technical. The exact salary varies based on locality but the absolute max by statute is $172500.
1/26/2021 12:12:11 pm
1/26/2021 01:02:20 pm
1/26/2021 02:09:29 pm
Most university plans are set up so that one can retire at 59 if they want. But in my experience that is pretty rare. A lot of profs feel like they are just hitting their stride at that point.
1/26/2021 02:57:53 pm
1/31/2021 02:50:09 pm
Damn! That was very cool of you guys to be so transparent.
1/17/2021 07:09:18 am
Everything is so mixed up these days, and cherry-picking makes strange bedfellows. So here's an article touting the old work of Gordon Childe to support jingoistic conclusions, somehow ignoring the obvious "Marxist archaeology" corpus of the man, to which most of them would have knee-jerk reactions of horror. Will they be mining Velikovsky next for evidence of the "racial trauma" caused by Democrats bringing Venus crashing into the moon? People of color are involved in a basically white-supremacist movement, people waving "thin blue line" flags beat cops - talk about cognitive dissonance!
1/17/2021 10:53:41 am
Hopefully the advances in ancient DNA recovery will start to debunk some of this BS. One of the recent developments is that light pigmentation is a fairly recent development. Cheddar man was an early inhabitant of the British Isles and had dark to black skin
1/25/2021 10:20:52 pm
Cherchen Man and Cherchen Woman used to be the poster children for Celtic people in China. Then their DNA came back Asian. Not another peep.
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