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"Ancient Origins" Suggests Giza Pyramids Used Color to Form Cosmic Tableau

5/1/2019

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I’m going to give Ancient Origins a little bit credit for their recent article on colored stones at the Giza Pyramids. At least the article, by writer Morgan Smith, took a different approach to developing an unusual claim about the pyramids. I hadn’t heard anyone try to claim that the colors of the stone used on the pyramids’ casings were tied to astrological and astronomical symbolism. So, I award points for at least a bit of originality. However, that doesn’t make the claim any better evidenced.
Smith begins with the observation that medieval Arabic writers (whom he knows primarily from the late examples of al-Suyuti and al-Maqrizi) knew the pyramid of Menkaure—the third pyramid—as the “Colored Pyramid.” Indeed, this name for the pyramid goes back many centuries before al-Maqrizi. The Akhbar al-zaman, for example, refers to the pyramid that way around 1000 CE, and clearly it was not a new term then. It derives from the speckled granite used in the pyramid’s casing stones. This coloration differs from the Great Pyramid, which originally had only white limestone casing stones, and the pyramid of Khafre, which some believe had stripes.
 
Rather than attribute differences in color to fashion, style, or ornament, Smith believes that the use of different types of stone in each pyramid’s casing reflected something.
 
Smith begins by citing Robert Schoch’s suggestion that the Egyptians used darker stone to make repairs. He argued in his book Pyramid Quest that the color differences indicated that the bases of the pyramids were much older than dynastic Egypt and that the red granite stone work was used to indicate original antediluvian construction, while the white limestone upper reaches of the pyramids were added later as new construction under the Fourth Dynasty.
 
There is, of course, no evidence that the pyramids predate the Fourth Dynasty.
 
Smith, however, rejects some of Schoch’s argument and claims that red granite represented earth, while white limestone represented the celestial realm. Thus, the wholly white Great Pyramid was seen as entirely celestial, while the next two pyramids were intended to represent progressively more earthly concerns. Thus, each was redder than the last. Taken together, he claims, the three pyramids represent a gradual rising from darkness to light.
 
It’s not entirely implausible, but it would seem to strike at the heart of the vanity of the pharaohs. Would Khafre and Menkaure have wanted to portray themselves as lesser pharaohs than Khufu? And who would want to be buried in the pyramids of “darkness”?
 
Smith’s argument is dressed up in the language of astronomy, but it really has nothing to do with astronomy at all. Smith argues that Djedefre’s granite-clad pyramid represented the night sky because the granite sparkled in the sun like stars in the night sky. Given that the pyramid’s Egyptian name is “Djedefre’s starry sky,” this is plausible. But it isn’t astronomical. No knowledge of astronomy is necessary to liken sparkly rocks to twinkling stars. Similarly, even taking the whole of Smith’s argument at face value, there is no knowledge of astronomy implied, let alone an astronomical “system.” The only system is the vaguely defined belief system that the Egyptian afterlife realm existed in the stars.
 
The trouble, though, is that Smith’s argument assumes an intentionality that we can’t simply accept without question. In the cases of Menkaure’s pyramid, it had sixteen courses of granite casing, with the remaining casing being white limestone. The internal structure of the pyramid also becomes concave after the sixteenth course. The final vertical base stones and pavement around the pyramid were never completed. These facts have led many to conclude that the pyramid’s original design was altered partway through to address a building defect or because the king had grown ill. It is unclear if the original design would have included a full granite casing or if the two-tone look had always been intended. Since we simply cannot know the original intent of the architects, drawing higher-level conclusions about an overarching color plan simply can’t be supported by the extant evidence.
27 Comments
More theories, more more theories
5/1/2019 09:02:05 am

About as interesting as the unprovable theories held by mainstream academics

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Doc Rock
5/1/2019 09:22:21 am

Yeah, those silly bastards are still trying to sell us that nonsense about gravity, stratigraphy, erosion forming canyons, etc.

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Joe Scales
5/1/2019 11:11:27 am

"About as interesting as the unprovable theories held by mainstream academics..."

The difference being, you imbecile, is that unlike your fringe, the theories held by mainstream academics are falsifiable. When competently disproven, they're abandoned. If only your fringe could consider the benefits of this courtesy. You imbecile.

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Mainstream
5/1/2019 11:36:05 am

"when completely disproven, they're abandoned"

Better still, historical vacuums should be avoided

Minnie
5/1/2019 12:11:07 pm

What is the falsifiable evidence that someone was buried in the Great Pyramid?

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Pharoh Menses the 7th
5/1/2019 12:34:20 pm

Is the alternative hypothesis that the pyramid was really a stable and that huge sarcophagus is really the worlds most valuable water trough?

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Bubba Hotep
5/1/2019 12:50:32 pm

I bet you didn't know that one can draw a straight line on a map from the pyramid to every sacred site on the planet. If you then plot all those specific points in white on a 12' by 12' sheet of plywood painted black and nail it to the ceiling of your trailer it looks like a bunch of stars in the sky. Mere coincidence? I say no, no, no.

Amon-Ra-Bit
5/2/2019 12:59:59 am

How do you draw a straight line on a sphere? Or is the Earth flat?

Reader
5/2/2019 04:52:39 am

Bubba was quite clear in explaining the straight lines from the pyramid to all the sacred sites on the planet ought to be drawn "on a map". The only reason I read his comment this closely is because I am thinking of doing as he says. I'll report to let you know if it turns out he's right.

Tungsten
5/2/2019 08:51:17 pm

Step one would be to look up "how do you draw a straight line on a sphere?"

Graham Green
5/2/2019 10:47:33 pm

Be sure to drop the ayahuasca at least an hour before looking up at the star map on the ceiling. It shouldn't take the ayahuasca to grasp the difference between a map and a sphere, though.

Bel Zur Na Tep
5/2/2019 11:07:33 pm

Uh, a globe is a map and a sphere.

Graham Green
5/3/2019 12:45:44 am

When the ayahuasca high wears off google "what is the difference between a globe and a map."

BEL ZUR NA TEP
5/3/2019 12:53:41 am

If it's on the internet then I must be wrong. A globe is simply a map with no errors due to projection. But you win every kitten video ever made.

Graham Green
5/3/2019 01:33:15 am

So it is just like a map, only different. You may pick up your participation trophy on the way out.

Chevy Chase
5/3/2019 10:28:31 am

I'm taking the family on vacation to the American Museum of Outhouses. Will be doing some sight seeing in surrounding towns. Can anyone suggest a really good globe of eastern Kentucky?

BEL ZUR NA TEP
5/3/2019 08:35:41 pm

Ah, so your problem is that a globe is too small a map? Thanks, A.V. Club!

Chesty Puller
5/3/2019 08:54:36 pm

A globe of Haiti saved my ass from a Caco sniper bullet back in '22. Had it around my neck while leading a patrol and he mistook it for my head. From then on all my squad leaders were issued globes for land navigation exercises and combat.

BEL ZUR NA TEP
5/3/2019 10:53:25 pm

Ah, so your problem now is that a globe is too big a map? Thanks, A.V. Club! Sounds like you need a Massage Circle!

Maps are the Readers Digest of globes.

Billy Ray Sawrock
5/3/2019 10:57:21 pm

They all told grand-daddy that Old #7 coal minute has all sorts of shafts going every whichaway and he ought not to go down there alone without his globe of the mine. But he didn't listen and they aint never found him. Now ain't nobody goes down there without packing they own globe of the mine.

God bless grand daddy

Carl Sauer is my hero
5/3/2019 11:27:11 pm

Are you people still arguing this. Any cartography textbook will articulate several differences between a map and a globe. I'm not going to bother citing a particular source because they all do.

The person is obviously joking anyway about something that could be nailed to a sheet of plywood with points from throughout the whole world plotted on it and visible to someone directly below it. ITS A FRIGGIN MAP AND A FRIGGIN JOKE!!

Get girlfriends.

sammy white
5/14/2019 03:15:56 pm

Dyslexia Association of France has stated this is NOT what it seems.

Accumulated Wisdom
5/2/2019 03:16:42 pm

"Scholar of Egyptian language and poetry Susan Brind Morrow has shown through careful philological study ( The Dawning Moon of the Mind , 2015) that the astronomical groundwork of the Pyramid Texts is far more complex and vibrant than western scholars have assumed since their discovery in 1880. The texts speak of far more than the spiritual ascension of the Pharaoh to the stars upon his death and in fact delineate the precise cycles of constellations, the moon, and the sun, all within the vehicle of poetry against the backdrop of their understanding of cosmic principles and the natural world."

I need to find a copy of this Lady's book. I have been stating similar ideas for years. There is another level of meaning to pyramids, hieroglyphs, and pictorial scenes. BUT...

"Because of the indirect, subjective nature of symbolism, we cannot say with absolute certainty that any one of the above interpretations of the casing stones reflects the original intent of the builders. We can, however, be sure of one thing. From Egypt’s sacred texts to its artwork, artists generated multiple layers of meaning through a kind of parabolic system of expression. The same can be applied to Egypt’s architectural marvels—down to each fragment of color and glint of light within their stones."

How do you prove the validity of abstract thought? Without sounding nuttier than a squirrel turd.

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An Anonymous Nerd
5/2/2019 08:01:54 pm

So much fringe contained in so few posts.

Straight lines to sacred sites: Well ok that one doesn't seem to be Fringe, rather it seems to be a joke that some fell for. Read the post in its entirety and you'll see why I might think that. Hint: That part about using the lines to make a star map on the ceiling of a trailer pretty much screams "weird joke" to me.

Pyramids not having bodies and this somehow relating to the "science makes falsifiable theories" thing: This site has a pretty good capsule summary of why folks who study this consider the pyramids to be tombs:

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-how-scientists-know-the-pyramids-were-built-to-store-pharaohs-not-grain

I'll quote point 3:

[3. There's evidence of burial inside the pyramids: "Pyramids were definitely used as tombs: burial equipment, such as sarcophagi, jewellery, mummies or mummy parts were found in some of them. (The others were robbed in antiquity, or in a few cases the burial chambers are below the water table)," archaeologist Deborah Sweeney from Tel Aviv University in Israel told Jewish news site Haaretz over email.]

As to how that'd be falsifiable? Well find evidence for something else, that isn't made up, based on transparent pre-suppostions, based on the fantasies Mr. Colavito's writing about for a book right now, etc. That'd be how you'd falsify it. But the evidence is pretty clear to those who study these things.

And that last part is pretty important. When you don't know what you're looking at, anything can look like anything.

[About as interesting as the unprovable theories held by mainstream academics]

Pretty random and, accordingly, difficult to respond to. I guess that's the point.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Hanslune
5/3/2019 11:42:49 am

Falsifiable? Easy find the actual tomb of any of the Pharaoh's from the pyramid age - not in its pyramid.

The four Pharaoh's found:

Tut: looted but mainly intact. Valley of the Kings.

Psusennes I: only Pharaoh tomb not looted but not buried in a pyramid but a tomb within the Royal city of Tanis.

Shoshenq II: found in the tomb of the fellow above where it seems to have been moved after his original tomb was flooded out. Buried well after the pyramid age.

Amenemope: Also found in the Royal burials of Tanis.

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An Anonymous Nerd
5/3/2019 08:17:33 pm

Please see the excerpt I posted from the site I linked to.

You cite four that weren't looted and I guess the implication is that the others couldn't have been, which makes no sense. With Tut I actually recall that the guy who opened the tomb in the 1900s had specific reasons to think he had a decent shot at finding a less-looted tomb.

And then of course there's the fact that Ancient Egyptian expectations for things like tombs weren't necessarily what we'd expect. Romer's "The Great Pyramid" is great at highlighting that gap of expectations.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Hanslune
5/3/2019 09:55:10 pm

Howdy

You said, "You cite four that weren't looted and I guess the implication is that the others couldn't have been, which makes no sense."

Actually Tut's was looted, twice, and Psusennes had within his tomb the other guys because their tombs (appear) to have been damaged by rising water.

Your guess is wrong - my point was simple - to falsify that pyramids were used as tombs would be to find a pharaoh from the pyramid age in a non-pyramid tomb that has been destroyed allowing an definite identification. Of course one such fine wouldn't be definitive, for it might be a one-off event.

Yes I have Romer's book.

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