Andrew Collins has made something of a career out of rewriting the same book over and over again, with slightly different material keyed to whatever was the most recent archaeological controversy or discovery at the time of writing. It was not too long ago that Collins delivered a book on Göbelki Tepe (my review: Part 1 and Part 2), in which he suggested that the Denisovans, a different species in the genus Homo known from only a few bone fragments, are the mysterious Nephilim of the Bible and the civilizing god-kings who bequeathed the arts and sciences to a benighted line of Homo sapiens. Apparently delighted by this claim, Collins has rewritten the same material into a new book called Denisovan Dawn, coauthored by gigantologist and Edgar Cayce acolyte Greg Little, and due out from publishing dumpster fire Inner Traditions in September. Collins first published his new claims in August on Ancient Origins and is currently promoting a presentation he plans to give on the subject later this spring. And what a surprise! Collins is planning to allege that the Denisovans hybridized human beings in the Americas, creating a non-human hybrid species of giants known as the Thunder People. For those of you keeping score, this is yet another allegation that some Native Americans are not really human. This claim is almost identical to one made on Legends of the Lost with Megan Fox in December, and I imagine that it is no coincidence that this claim is emerging across the fringe world in many different places despite the manifest lack of physical evidence for Denisovans in North America, or, indeed, anywhere but in the single cave where a tiny number of bone fragments were uncovered. (DNA evidence shows Denisovan genes in populations as far afield as Aboriginal Australia.) Collins is set to deliver a preview of the book’s material this spring, and he described what he intends to tell the New Living Expo in April in a posting on his website: Andrew demonstrates how the recently-discovered extinct human population now called the Denisovans gifted our earliest ancestors the rudiments of civilization around 45,000 years ago. He shows also how in North America the Denisovans' hybrid descendents [sic] became the Animiki - the Thunderbirds or Thunder People of Algonquian tradition, as well as the giants who became the leaders and shamans of the Native American mound building cultures that thrived across the continent through till medieval times. Andrew looks at the different traditions of these Thunder People - what other names they were remembered as, their impact on the First Peoples of North America, and how even today vision questing can unlock their secret places across the United States. Forgive me a moment of vulgarity, but having just finished the final revision on the manuscript of my own book on the racist myth of the Mound Builders, seeing Collins allege that Native Americans were under the tutelage of half-human hybrids who were responsible for their earthworks leaves me with little recourse but to say: What the flying fuck? It was bad enough when the mounds were attributed falsely to Vikings or to Jews or to a lost white race, but now Collins has extended the utter refusal to credit Native peoples with their own cultural achievements to assigning the piling of basketfuls of dirt atop one another to a whole different species of hominin. What makes this doubly disgusting is that reams of evidence exist connecting the mounds to Native Americans, while the Denisovans are known from one finger bone, two teeth, and a toe bone, all found in the same Russian cave.
The Animikii, known by many variant names and spellings, are a type of Algonquian mythological being, but they are not generally people. They are Thunder Birds, and it is believed that thunder is the sound of the beating of their massive wings. Presumably, Collins is thinking of the Pèthakhuweyok (many spelling variations exist), the mythic Algonquian “thunder spirits” who are storm spirits that live in the sky and have the form of eagles or humans with eagle heads. Even this description is a generalization. The Lenape, for example, are said to envision the thunder spirits as gigantic turkeys or partridges that live on mountaintops. I found only a very few references to the Thunder People as fully human in form, and none that identified the Thunder Birds (Animikii) with the Thunder People. Collins bases his claim on one 1923 report about the Animikii by Alanson Skinner that “some maintain that they resemble human beings or, at least, are anthropomorphic at times” and wear feathered pants. It’s a thin thread upon which to hang an entire theory of Denisovan survival on another continent for 45,000 years. Collins claims that Thunderbirds could shape-shift into human form and even marry humans, but when I traced back his source (an encyclopedia), I found that this claim referred only to thunderbird myths of the Pacific Coast, not to the Algonquian thunderbirds of the East. Collins conflates without explanation. Collins argues that because some stories suggest that thunder birds were shapeshifters that therefore they are Denisovan-Neanderthal hybrids who wore feather pants or capes to appear birdlike. This is a bit of euhemerism that would have done Dionysus Schytobrachion proud. (Dionysus explained, bizarrely, that the Golden Fleece was the gilded skin of a man named Mr. Ram.) Collins “proposes that earthly Animiki' are a memory of Denisovan and arguably Denisovan-Neanderthal-modern human groups that thrived in parts of North America through until the first millennia BC, when they became the extremely tall ruling elites and shamans of the Adena mound-building culture (the so-called "Adena elite" theory).” He refers to the controversial idea, once widely accepted, that the Adena were hierarchical and had a ruling elite. However, this view has been challenged by new evidence, and there is no evidence for “Giants” in Adena times, let alone a ruling elite of hybrid half-human giants. The best-preserved image of an Adena shaman, a carved pipe found in Ohio, depicts a normal-looking human. While the intended scale of the human can’t be determined from the image, he appears on the stocky side of average and doesn’t bear any indication of being depicted as a giant. It goes without saying that no physical evidence of Neanderthals or Denisovans has ever been found in North America. Collins argues that the evidence can be found in the fact that some Native Americans have genes traceable to Denisovans. This really proves nothing about North American populations since, as ought to be obvious, Native Americans also have genes traceable back to other ancestral Asian populations, none of which was required to be present in North America to have had their genes carried into the continent when Native peoples crossed over. Collins goes on to claim that the Thunder People—the Denisovan hybrids—were able to break down the barriers between dimensions by accessing a portal in the Cygnus constellation, which may be entered at key power locations on the Earth, particularly Skinwalker Ranch. Regular readers will remember Skinwalker Ranch as the desolate patch of Utah real estate where Robert Bigelow’s team of UFO hunters came to believe that flying saucers were practical joke-playing poltergeists, and which is currently under development as a tourist attraction under its new owner. It’s a good thing that my Mound Builder book only goes up to the early twentieth century, or else I’d have to write a whole new chapter for this nonsense.
33 Comments
SKELETOR
1/18/2019 09:30:34 am
Sword of Omen, give me sight beyond sight.
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orang
1/18/2019 10:31:30 am
"Lords of Light!" (my favorite Thundar the Barbarian expression.
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ILLUMINATUS
1/18/2019 10:07:20 am
What is it the Testament teaches us? - to believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married - and the belief of this debauchery is called faith.
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Mike
1/18/2019 10:57:04 am
I've always wondered if people like Andrew Collins genuinely believe what they spout or if it's that they've found their money-making niche and know that people will buy it. Could be both I suppose.
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Scott David Hamilton
1/18/2019 11:00:13 am
"...storm spirits that live in the sky and have the form of eagles or humans with eagle heads."
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1/18/2019 12:16:16 pm
There's a deep cut... I haven't thought about Danger 5 in years!
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Riley V
1/22/2019 03:40:00 am
I’m still a fool for Ilsa.
American cool "disco" dan
1/18/2019 12:19:40 pm
Cygnus, known as the Swan, is actually the Turkey, and one of the Fixed Signs as well as one of the Royal Stars, and it's actually Orion, just like everything else.
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EAGLE FEATHER
1/21/2019 03:34:02 pm
Cygnus and Orion are identical twins.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/18/2019 03:09:08 pm
"there is no evidence for “Giants” in Adena times"
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E.P. Grondine
1/18/2019 03:46:28 pm
Hi Jason -
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American cool "Disco" Dan
1/18/2019 04:22:28 pm
"We have to deal with confusion all of the time"
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EAGLE FEATHER
1/18/2019 05:31:56 pm
Why do academics keep feeding the we migrated here 60,000 years ago across the Bering Straits?
American cool "Disco" Dan
1/18/2019 06:18:32 pm
The alternative is they walked west across Asia and Europe, got on a boat that magically appeared, crossed the Atlantic, went north TO the frozen regions you think they should have left, then walked across Canada to the frozen regions in the west. That's a long trip but it makes more sense to you?
EAGLE FEATHER
1/18/2019 06:52:50 pm
You are very silly sir!
american cool "disco" dan
1/19/2019 12:25:16 am
"I have written to you before about the Andaste - they were indeed giant cannibals, and the other peoples remembered them that way."
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EAGLE FEATHER
1/19/2019 04:32:59 am
You are very silly sir!
Proud Ramp
1/19/2019 04:41:36 pm
Mr Grondine did you know they got giant andaste still around. The indian that played big chief in one flew over the coo coo nest was really 9 feet tall and they had to do special affects to make it look like he was only about 7 foot tall. He died pretty young because he grew too much and it ruptured his organs. I seen a picture of him standing next to one of the negros that played orderlys in the movie and them was pretty big boys but they looked like little kids standing next to him. They need to make one of his kids take the DNA test and I bet it will show that he is Andaste.
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Corvus Corone
1/19/2019 08:17:26 pm
Think you can get away with telling tall tales ‘round here?
E.P. Grondine
1/21/2019 01:29:18 pm
Hi PR -
American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/21/2019 03:02:43 pm
What you've actually claimed is that you've met multiple Injuns over 7 feet tall. Yet you cannot name ONE.
Seymore Butts
1/20/2019 10:29:04 pm
Andrew Collins, otherwise known as "Cokehead"
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/21/2019 01:11:17 pm
Who would win in a fight, Cygnus or Orion?
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EAGLE FEATHER
1/21/2019 03:03:40 pm
Orion is 1 for 2
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American Cool "disco" dan
1/21/2019 04:23:52 pm
People who post as "Eagle Feather" can reliably be counted on to bring the nonsense.
American coo "disco" dan
1/21/2019 05:14:44 pm
Who would inseminate? Is Orion a birdfucker?
EAGLE FEATHER
1/21/2019 05:54:29 pm
That would be the Goa'uld.
American cool "Disco" Dan
1/21/2019 07:32:21 pm
As has been said, people who post as "Eagle Feather" can reliably be counted on to bring the nonsense.
EAGLE FEATHER
1/21/2019 10:57:34 pm
Your comment was painted.
EAGLE FEATHER
1/22/2019 08:00:21 am
Who would win in a fight, Cygnus or Orion?
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EAGLE FEATHER
1/22/2019 08:19:08 am
For the record, there was one winner:
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EAGLE FEATHER
1/22/2019 08:43:18 am
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