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Andrew Collins Claims to Have Found the Earliest Depiction of Gobekli Tepe in Art

9/17/2015

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Yesterday I discussed the strange case of Miquel Pérez-Sánchez, a Spanish writer who earned a Ph.D. in goofball pyramid mysticism by studying Egyptology in the architecture department of his university rather than as history or archaeology. This reminded me of Sam Osmanagich, the man who believes that some natural hills in Bosnia are actually 30,000-year-old pyramids. He, too, holds a Ph.D., and his came from the University of Sarajevo, where he studied the history of civilizations. Under the guidance of sociologist Prof. Dr. Hidajet Repovac (to use the European titling system), Osmanagich successfully earned a Ph.D. by writing a dissertation claiming that “quartz head skull technology” (i.e. the crystal skulls that actually date to the modern era) “proves” that the Maya predate all known American civilizations, including the Olmec. “There is no scientific precedence that could serve as an example of this pioneering research and analyses,” he wrote. He also denied that Postclassic Maya were in fact Mayans, and he denies any connection between modern Mayans and their ancient ancestors. 
Osmanagich got away with this because he studied under a professor in the Faculty of Political Science and framed his work as a sociological comparison of Mayan and Western civilizations; in other words, he sneaked fringe claims through the University of Sarajevo by circumventing the disciplines of archaeology and history, where such studies might more naturally be housed. The University of Sarajevo places sociology, Osmanagich’s alleged discipline, under political science; it has a separate Institute of History and houses the archaeology department under the Faculty of Philosophy.

I’d like to know who read a dissertation about “quartz head skull technology” that essentially proposed that the Maya were a mysterious lost civilization that vanished without a trace and then thought, “Gee, this is amazing research!” What must the oral defense have sounded like?

But he came out the other side with a legitimate degree based on a dissertation covering crystal skulls and denial of Mayan history. As such, Osmanagich is happy to present himself as a credentialed archaeologist and academic in order to give weight to his allegations about the Bosnian land formations he calls pyramids. His recent appearance at a conference in Singapore prompted coverage in the Straits Times, one of the city-state’s largest newspapers, in which Osmanagich repeated the same claims he’s made for many years now and promising that he will never give up digging into the Bosnian hillsides until he learns who really built them.

Speaking of the search for the “real builders,” Andrew Collins has some new speculation that he published today on Ancient Origins, a website that remains so overloaded with advertising and other doodads that even with the most up-to-date browsers in Windows 10, I still can’t stay on any of its pages longer than a few minutes without it crashing my browser. Collins claims that earlier this month a British expatriate named Matthew Smith noticed that an ancient artifact from Göbekli Tepe on display at a museum in Şanlıurfa, near the site, seems to show two of the distinctive T-shaped pillars from the site. The accompanying photograph does indeed seem to show these pillars inscribed on a piece of bone that dates back to the time of the site’s construction, although other interpretations may be possible. I have a hard time seeing what Collins says is a human figure standing with its back to us on the plaque.

You can see the plaque in Collins’s YouTube video:
At no time does Collins appear to ask museum officials what archaeologists believe the plaque represents, nor does he consult academic literature for its description. Presumably, someone has said something about it before last week.

Collins says that he believes, based on a suggestion by History Channel jack of all conspiracies Hugh Newman (sometime Ancient Aliens speculator, sometime gigantologist), that an indentation in the center of the artifact represents an aperture similar to the round stone holes found at the site. Collins interprets the plaque as a stick figure man looking through the stone hole between two stone pillars. It’s not clear to me why that dot would be a stone hole and not, for example, a star, especially given Collins’s claims.

As most readers know, Collins has an elaborate world-historical conspiracy that he believes lies behind the Neolithic period. This involves the Enochian Watchers, who for him are a spiritually advanced race of ancient white people from the Caucasus and Eastern Europe. Collins therefore interprets the stone holes as observation points meant to target the Watchers’ favorite constellation, Cygnus the swan. The hole therefore symbolizes the dark rift in the Milky Way, which appears like a hole in the river of stars. So, if the hole symbolizes the dark rift or targets it in the sky, why would the bone plaque show the hole and not the actual dark rift?

Here is the only place where Collins’s claims become interesting—and not because of anything he actually said. Collins argues that the enclosures at Göbekli Tepe were aligned to the north and thus to Cygnus in order to reclaim his priority as an interpreter of the site, since Graham Hancock took him to task over the issue in Magicians of the Gods, released only days ago. What makes this interesting is that the book Hancock was reacting to (and from which he appears to have lifted much of his own material on the site), Collins’s Göbekli Tepe: Genesis of the Gods, had an introduction from no less a luminary than… Graham Hancock, who called it a “masterwork” before attacking its conclusions in print!

In Magicians, Hancock nonsensically claimed that Göbekli Tepe could not have been aligned to the north because a hill would have blocked the view of Cygnus. Collins attempts to rebut Hancock by pointing out that the alleged hill is an artificial construction and would not have been present at the time the site was laid out. It’s interesting that Collins isn’t willing to criticize Hancock too strongly, and goes out of his way to say that only more research can determine which of them is right. Could this be because the two men are going to be appearing together November 7 at the Origins 2015 Conference, where he is playing second-fiddle to headliner Hancock (though billed above gigantologist Jim Viera and the omnipresent Newman).

What I have trouble figuring out, though, is how Collins and Hancock can appear at conferences together and Hancock can write the introduction for Collins’s book, and yet the two of them don’t seem to be able to play as nicely as the rest of the Ancient Aliens crowd (both have appeared on that show) to either ignore their differences or work them out behind the scenes to avoid publicly contradicting one another and thus breaking fringe-history solidarity. You’d have thought Hancock and Collins might have talked this out before Hancock criticized him in print.

27 Comments
Scarecrow
9/17/2015 12:37:28 pm

Not translated

Erste Tempel - Frühe Siedlungen: 12000 Jahre Kunst und Kultur. Ausgrabungen und Forschungen zwischen Donau und Euphrat (2009)

Contains article on Göbekli Tepe by Klaus Schmidt who died in 2014. "Gobekli Tepe . A description of the main findings made ​​by the work of the excavation team of the years 1995-2007"


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Dave
9/17/2015 12:44:15 pm

Now I know where to go to get an easy PHD.

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busterggi (Bob Jase)
9/18/2015 01:55:28 pm

True, but Miskatonic is still cheaper.

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SouthCoast
9/18/2015 08:25:47 pm

PhD..."Piled High and Deep".

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Dave
9/21/2015 01:05:28 pm

That's accurate.

Pam
9/17/2015 01:17:15 pm

I can see the stone "T" pillars and even walls of the structure, but I don't see a stick figure person. If it is Gobekli Tepe, it looks like the view from inside one of the structures.

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Harry
9/17/2015 08:55:12 pm

If you look at the lower part of the plaque, you may notice a backward facing "L" and a diagonal line to the right, slanting downwards and away from the top of the backward "L" to the base of the plaque. Those kind of look like the legs of a human figure, who appears to be holding what looks kind of like a hockey stick jutting out to the left. Above them are what one could interpret as the head and torso of the human figure, between the two "T" pillars.

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David Bradbury
9/18/2015 08:48:00 am

Yes, that was what I thought too, but some time I'd like to see a photo with lighting from a different direction. The very spindly "limbs" can also be interpreted as outlines of the floor and low walls, with a perspective effect as the pathway goes between the columns and along a passage.

dennis
9/20/2015 04:35:57 pm

that's not a hockey stick - he's just glad to see you.

Kal
9/17/2015 03:16:18 pm

So the picture on the left, of modern scaffolding holding up that pillar set, is somehow related to that cracked carving of a figure in between two cliffs, or pillars? I see the figure but not the pillars so much. It looks like the pottery or rock is just part of a fragment of something larger, and could be any standing structures around that little stick bug man. How is this site in Turkey connected to the Maya in Mexico?

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Pacal
9/17/2015 05:57:35 pm

So Osmanagich:

"... denied that Postclassic Maya were in fact Mayans, and he denies any connection between modern Mayans and their ancient ancestors."

I could quote Jon Stewart in response to idiocy of this magnitude, but why bother? This comment illustrates in abundance awesome ignorance concerning the Maya. Perhaps Prof. Dr. Osmanagich would benefit from reading some of the works of Linda Schele, David Stuart, Edward Thompson, David H. Kelley to start with.

As it is I am gobsmacked that he was able to get a Phd with what amounts to utter nonsense. What the hell happened?

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Shane Sullivan
9/17/2015 06:13:27 pm

I dunno, man. Everybody knows the Maya are refugees from Alderaan.

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Igor
9/18/2015 08:37:06 am

I am from Bosnia, so I can comment on state of education in here.
Quality is pretty bad and there are loads of private diploma mills colleges which got shady certifications that they are legit from god knows who.
Corruption in state universities is rampant, and in private unis you only need money and it is only restriction to get whichever title you want.
Nepotism is rampant in govt workplaces and people who run country are supplemented mostly by bought diplomas from diploma mills, etc. etc.

TLDR; Bosnian scientists = oxymoronic construct

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Crash55
9/17/2015 09:28:39 pm

Since I have PhD from a top engineering school and work for the government can I start making fringe claims and be taken "seriously" in that crowd? Maybe this could be a good fall back or retirement plan?

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David Bradbury
9/18/2015 03:17:06 am

A very good plan indeed if you can link your fringe claims to engineering, the way Second World War codebreaker Alf Mongé went on to find all sorts of ingenious cryptography in medieval runestones.

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Crash55
9/18/2015 06:51:13 pm

I deal with smart structures, advanced composites, and next generation weapon systems so I should be able to link some of that to fringe claims.

Maybe I can claim there are railguns depicted in ancient carvings

Dave
9/21/2015 07:47:40 am

Crash55, that's because you're working with reversed alien technology, right?

Colin Hunt
9/18/2015 10:17:32 am

Not directly related to the post, but another strange claim about aliens by no less than the World Chess President, who was apparently abducted by aliens to 'some star' and taught chess. Wow. "Fools Move", methinks!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aliens-invented-the-game-of-chess-says-world-chess-president-kirsan-ilyumzhinov_55f31627e4b063ecbfa42cce

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Clete
9/18/2015 10:31:12 am

The question that needs to be asked, is if he was taught chess before or after the anal probe.

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Duke of URL
9/18/2015 11:46:28 am

"so overloaded with advertising and other doodads that even with the most up-to-date browsers in Windows 10, I still can’t stay on any of its pages longer than a few minutes without it crashing my browser."
Have you never heard of AdBlockPro and NoScript?

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Jason Colavito link
9/18/2015 01:54:36 pm

I have AdBlockPro on Chrome, and it helps some, but the site is really packed with doodads (not just ads) that slow it down to a crawl.

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terry the censor
9/23/2015 11:42:17 pm

@Duke and Jason

ScriptSafe is the Chrome equivalent of NoScript. I agree with Duke that one must use ad and script blockers to navigate dicey sites.

Patricia Stockman-Beatty
9/20/2015 10:08:38 am

Google Colin Andrews followed by word Fraud to make assessments

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Jock Doubleday link
9/21/2015 05:52:23 am

The most active and best-documented archaeological project on the planet is the Bosnian Pyramids Project run by the nonprofit Bosnian NGO "Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation," based in Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

The reason it's the most active project is that the pyramid complex discovered by Dr. Semir Osmanagich in April 2005 has the two tallest documented pyramids in the world as well as a prehistoric tunnel that winds for tens of kilometers beneath the complex.

The Bosnian Pyramid Complex has had nearly 500,000 visitors since its discovery:
http://piramidasunca.ba/eng/latest-news/item/9780-archaeology-by-the-numbers-ten-years-of-tourism-at-the-bosnian-pyramid-complex-in-visoko-bosnia-%E2%80%94-2005-2015.html

Only trenchant academicians (and a few science writers who haven't visited the pyramid complex in Visoko) still cling to Wikipedia's rather amusing opinions about "natural hills" in Visoko.

Sincerely,
Jock Doubleday
Author, "The Mysterious Anti-Scientific Agenda of Robert Schoch: Part 1 - The Bosnian Pyramid Complex"
http://anamericaninbosnia.blogspot.ba/2013/03/the-mysterious-anti-scientific-agenda_455.html

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Jock Doubleday link
9/21/2015 05:59:54 am

Oops, *entrenched," not "trenchant," ha ha :)
Jock

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Only Me
9/21/2015 11:40:40 am

So, academics who haven't visited the site hold invalid opinions. However, Robert Schoch DID visit the site and concluded the pyramid claim was wrong, but he's just being anti-scientific.

As a "playwright, screenwriter, citizen journalist, author of sci-fi stories, artist, actor, director, and stoneworker", why should anyone take your assessment any more seriously than Schoch? Unlike you, he holds a MS in geology and a PhD in geophysics.

I'm wondering how you manage to discredit the opinions of experts because they may not have been to the site AND accuse those who have of an "anti-scientific agenda". Nothing but total endorsement of this ridiculous claim will do, right?

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3/17/2017 12:44:50 pm

Admittedly, we were not immediately publishing that peculiar find - for exactly the reason we are discussing this now: it seemed (and honestly still seems) quite challenging to really understand what is depicted here - and what the original intention of the prehistoric artist might have been.

Since the object ended up on display in the museum now and obviously sparked quite some interest (including some rather, well, bold claims), we finally decided to use this bone 'spatula' as a starting point for a more general discussion on the challenges (and pitfalls) of interpreting prehistoric art and the meaning and reason of implementing a Neolithic iconology here:

https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/2017/03/15/iconology-and-archaeology-or-whats-in-that-picture

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