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Are the Nephilim Good Role Models for African American Fathers? Alfonzo Rachel Says Yes!

2/12/2016

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I know that there has been a push to make Christianity cool for Millennials, and I suppose I have to give Alfonzo Rachel credit for looking and sounding very different than his essentially fundamentalist message. He’s an African American political conservative and a biblical literalist, and he’s upset at the idea that anyone could pretend to be Christian and yet find the Flood or the story of Jonah in the fish to be allegorical. “Please stop. You either believe the Bible or you don’t.” However, I was a bit shocked and disturbed to see Rachel promoting the Nephilim as “superheroes” from the Bible, and implicitly equating them with Jesus, whom he identifies as a “real-life superhero.”
Click here to view parts 2-6 on Rachel’s website.
 
Rachel says that Genesis 6:1-4 is as easy “for any man to understand as pee on the toilet seat.” For him, the biblical story is entirely the story of horny angels who did the right thing by marrying the women they loved and birthing superheroes. These are decidedly not the evil Nephilim of L. A. Marzulli, or the Christian tradition going back to the Church Fathers.
 
“Do not impose your own piety on the Scriptures!” Rachel said in rejecting the euhemerizing idea that the Sons of God are sons of Seth. In fact, he opposes all scholarship and efforts to understand the Bible in a broader contexts. “Scholars looked right into the face of God, spat in his face, and hung him on a cross,” he said in arguing that scholarship detracts from acceptance of all things divine. “So I don’t buy every word of a scholar just because he’s a scholar.” He calls scholars “elitist-minded egotists.”
 
Instead, he argues that the Sons of God are the angelic host, and he produces a lengthy argument for why these were not fallen angels but rather regular angels fully possessed of their holiness. They are “the ones that were the most solid,” Rachel said. Rachel argues that Sons of God can’t be evil because they are peacemakers and therefore the two-thirds of the angels who remained uncorrupted by Satan.
 
Rachel also rejects the Book of Enoch as non-canonical, and in assuming all the parts of Judeo-Christian theology to be equally ancient argues that the Nephilim cannot be evil because the Devil and his angels fell from heaven before the creation of Adam, and the angels could only fall once. Because Leviticus doesn’t forbid angel-human marriages, Rachel says that the angels who married humans “stepped up” and provide a good role model for African American fathers, who would benefit from taking responsibility for their out of wedlock children.
 
It takes five videos before he actually begins to support the claim that the Nephilim were superheroes (it’s Genesis 6:4, the “heroes of old,” in case you didn’t realize), but before this his videos are rather just a long literalist discussion of biblical passages, which never quite add up to an argument, eventually derailing into a discussion of biblical tax policy and the sexual politics of allotting spouses in heaven. I’m not sure for whom such a discussion is meant, but it becomes quite clear over the course of six videos that while Rachel thinks he is being objective in evaluating the role of the Nephilim in Christian mythos (or, rather, his version of Christian mythos), he’s more likely projecting modern social concerns related to his experience in the African American community onto the brief references in Genesis.
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Only Me
2/12/2016 06:15:19 pm

"You either believe the Bible or you don’t.”

At least he figured that part out.

"Do not impose your own piety on the Scriptures!”

Proceeds to rewrite the role of the Sons of God and the Nephilim. Follows that up with, "Scholars looked right into the face of God, spat in his face, and hung him on a cross.”

10/10- Would logic again.

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Time Machine
2/13/2016 07:24:33 am

>>>You either believe the Bible or you don’t.<<<

And the rationalists Bible is only fit for the trash collector,
The rationalisation of the Star of Bethlehem for example, that wasn't a historical event but an air-drawn fabric to fulfill the bogus claims in the New Testament,

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Shane Sullivan
2/12/2016 06:27:55 pm

"Scholars looked right into the face of God, spat in his face, and hung him on a cross..."

It's been awhile since I've read the Gospels, but I could have sworn it was Roman *soldiers*, not Roman *scholars*.

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Jonathan Feinstein
2/13/2016 07:05:58 am

I am frequently amazed and sometimes amused by how people will take a few scraps of Holy Scripture that stand without adequate explanation and then spin them up into extraordinary claims rather than simply admitting that we just do not know everything.

First of all, I notice there is no above mention of the Nephelim living in Canaan (as per Numbers 13:33) or the use of a similar word (not identical, but possibly related) for dead Philistine warriors in Ezekiel 32:27, so I guess he is cherry picking just the one passages in Genesis.

The sad fact is that the Bible has been translated and retranslated many times and has been edited frequently as well. From fragments of earlier versions (such as, but not restricted to the Dead Sea Scrolls) we know that passages and even entire stories were canonized out of the various modern versions we know today.

It is hard to impossible to say what has been taken out when we do not we find older versions to compare to, but we can clearly see places where the canonization process has left bits and pieces behind or tried to edit confusing bits of stories to make more sense. I could give quite a few examples, but I don't want to write a comment longer than Jason's actual blog.

Among those obvious edits are the explanation concerning why Abraham introduces Sarah as his sister rather than his wife (examination of Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets has revealed there were two forms of marriage in Sumer/Akkad; the Husband-wife marriage in which the wife was the property of the husband and the Brother-sister marriage which was not incestuous, but actually it involved the adoption of the wife into the husband's family making her his equal and not chattel... A thousand or so years later, however that would not have been remembered, so it is possible that those writing the stories down might have added an explanation that made sense to them)

Another example are the various mentions of Ashera and the Asherim. Ashera was the wife of EL and Queen of Heaven and during most of the united and divided monarchys, archaeological study has shown that the Israelites were not yet monotheistic (this started happening later in the divided monarchy and solidified during the Babylonian Exile) so Ashera was El Shadai's (God's) wife. Later on, Judaism was formulated and the Scriptures that mentions Ashera were either canonized out or changed. Her name and that of the Asherim (the ceremonial poles erected in her honor) still appear over forty times in the Hebrew Bible. Although many of those mentions involve Canaanites, the archaeological data shows she was actively worshiped in both Judan and Israeli homes.

Anyway, it seems clear that there must have been more mentions of the Nephelim and that when written, those to wroite down the tales know, or thought they knew what the word meant. The meaning of the word itself and the beings it applies to has become obscured leaving modern scholars and those who are not so scholarly (I guess) free to come up with any explanations they like (or with the best explanations they can cobble together based on the lack of real evidence. There are conflicting interpretations in Jewish scholarship as well both as to what they were *the Zohar calls them giants, other scholarly sources mere say :"Sons of Seth" and what their eventual fates were (killed in the Flood or caused by God to kill each other off).

Believe what you want about them, but the actual biblical references don't really have a lot of meat on them.

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Jonathan Feinstein
2/13/2016 07:07:22 am

... and I guess I did not success in keeping my comment shorter than the actual blog >sigh!<

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Time Machine
2/13/2016 07:35:15 am

There are howlers in the Bible. Like for example the funny story about how Jesus Christ transferred impure spirits from a man onto 2,000 pigs who then all jumped over a cliff. (eg, Mark 5)

Time Machine
2/13/2016 08:29:00 am

>>>The meaning of the word [Nephilim] itself and the beings it applies to has become obscure<<<

It would be a reference to the enemies of the Jews, as in Goliath being referred to as a giant.

You won't find this referenced anywhere. I dowsed this myself.

You won't find anything out if you relied solely on other people's works.

Time Machine
2/13/2016 08:36:30 am

The leader of the Nephilim/Watchers was Shemyaza as given in the Book of Giants in the Dead Sea Scrolls and in I Enoch

Bob Jase
2/13/2016 09:57:26 am

Sounds like Rachel has a loop of Jack Kirby's New Gods running in his head.

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