You might have seen the recent spate of publicity surrounding Bob Lazar, a UFO lecture circuit regular who became famous a nearly thirty years ago, in May 1989, when Las Vegas TV reporter George Knapp interviewed him about the U.S. government’s alleged UFO research at Area 51. Over the years, Lazar’s claims have expanded into a baroque narrative encompassing U.S. government research into 10,000 years of alien involvement in human affairs, but his personal credibility has suffered from revelations that his alleged alma maters have no record of him, something he calls a conspiracy to discredit him. Now Lazar is the subject of a new documentary from the same team that brought us Hunt for the Skinwalker earlier this year, and following much the same format, including clips from old Knapp interviews. The film has occasioned borderline credulous write-ups in a number of mainstream publications, including The Daily Beast and the British tabloids.
I got offered a screener for Jeremy Corbell’s film, Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers, but I couldn’t bring myself to gin up the interest to watch it.
Lazar’s long history of stating things that later investigation proves to be unsupported by fact has left even fellow UFO researchers like Stanton Friedman to brand him a liar and a fraud. To be entirely honest, I don’t care must about him or his wild claims. Area 51 conspiracies fall outside my area of interest, except insofar as Lazar has folded himself into the Bigelow-DeLonge axis. Lazar claimed online that he had written his autobiography and DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science will be publishing it. (To the Stars has not confirmed this, and it is not currently on their public schedule of publications.) And, of course, Lazar’s entire ufology career owes itself to Knapp, Bigelow’s buddy and the author of the authorized book about Bigelow’s Skinwalker Ranch adventure.
However, the film happens to dovetail with Nick Redfern’s new book about Area 51, due out in a couple of weeks, and to promote the book, Redfern published an article on Mysterious Universe last week in which he discussed what he learned from a now-deceased former police officer pseudonymously deemed “John,” who claimed to have worked for the predecessor of G4S Secure Solutions in the 1970s, in which capacity he worked at Area 51.
According to Redfern, “John” learned a great deal about U.S. government space alien work, but he believed that it was not about real space aliens:
John also speculated on another possibility; it was a possibility which involved the Soviets. Although he was somewhat reluctant to address the matter in-depth – which is intriguing – John said he heard a few snippets of data suggesting that there was a small program at Area 51 which was trying to convince the Russians that the United States Government had not just alien bodies, but extraterrestrial technology; even highly advanced, powerful alien weaponry. John wondered if all of this was a mind-game – one designed to scare the Russians into thinking we had something that we never really did, but which the staff at Area 51 were hoping the Russians would come to believe. And come to fear, too. John died in 2013. His widow stated that in his final years John came to believe even more that what he saw and read out at Area 51 in the early 1970s was connected to a project of mind-blowing proportions; a highly detailed and intricate fabrication designed to have the Russians running around like headless chickens, wasting their time on disinformation dressed up as incredible truths and ultimately getting arrested.
Just to note: There is no factual support given for any of this, and the speculation belongs to “John,” based on facts that are not clearly described. I am also concerned about the way that “a small program” blew up in the course of one paragraph into “a project of mind-blowing proportions.”
Even with all of that, a minimalist reading of the claims rings at least somewhat true. We know, for example, that the U.S. government monitored UFO reports as a way of keeping tabs on the Soviet space program, and we know from U.S. and Soviet government documents that both governments falsely attributed secret tests of spacecraft, aircraft, and weapons to UFOs as a way of disguising what they hoped their opposite numbers would not discover. There are even a few hints—like a famous NSA copy of a memo about the Spitsbergen “UFO” calling it a government “plant”—that intelligence agencies were involved in faking UFO incidents.
So the idea that Area 51 engaged in intentional disinformation by covering up military and intelligence work with stories about space aliens doesn’t strike me as preposterous. I would wonder, though, if the intention was to actually fool the Soviets into believing America had space aliens—particularly since the Soviets spent decades promoting UFOs and ancient astronauts among Western journalists and writers—as much as it was to make it difficult, if not impossible, to figure out the real technologies American scientists and engineers were developing due to the challenge of disentangling reality from fantasy.
It’s an interesting story, but I would need to see some corroborating data before accepting the speculations of the deceased “John” as fact.
12/13/2018 10:20:41 am
Hey guys! This is the latest ground breaking, ancient extinct, highly advanced civilization video from Bright Insight. I did a step by step debunking of it, but my comment doesn't show up on his video, so I guess he blocked me :|. Knowing that you like conspiracies and their debunking, I will post it here.
12/13/2018 10:25:22 am
12/13/2018 06:27:22 pm
What about the "tool containing steel found within the masonry, and discarded"?
12/14/2018 08:02:18 am
I don't know what steel tool you are talking about, please post the source for it. Your points about granite cutting have been addressed in my original comments and I provided sources too, including one video showing how it's done.
12/15/2018 01:01:59 am
Still tracking down sources.
12/16/2018 06:34:57 pm
12/17/2018 06:54:54 am
Well, it's not hard to think that a steel tool may be found inside of it, giving that it was entered multiple times across many centuries. Founding a piece of steel inside a pyramid doesn't mean too much, unless you can somehow prove that it dates to dynastic Egypt. It happened to me to be on a dig site where they found a hat from around 1950, in a section that was originally considered untouched.
12/18/2018 07:16:02 pm
My wife has either moved some of my books, or got rid of them without my knowledge. Because bookmakers haven't gotten together, making books one uniform size, shape, and color, she considers them "clutter".
12/19/2018 04:12:15 am
There is no evidence that the bronze age Egyptians used steel, and a claim of a supposed eye witness of the "tool" does not change that. In the XXI century egyptologists found a steel rod in the back of the Sphinx, left from the XIX century attempts to drill through it and find a chamber. i don't know what is under Baalbek.
1/12/2020 08:32:01 am
To a certain point I agree with general feel that the video of that guy, Jimmy, are dubious. However, your arguments are just as hollow as his. Not one of the arguments/evidence you call upon are actually conclusive. To the contrary. The "hieroglyph" naming Kufu, in the Great Pyramid is not accurate and it was written by an unsteady hand. Surely you will agree that whoever built such a monumental structure would have a few bags of grain or a barrel of beer for a better and more literate "scribe". Why else would you yourself call it, correctly, "graffiti"? Because that is what the scribbling really is. A graffiti left by some later visitor, almost certainly from the Middle Ages, as the pigment used suggests.
1/14/2020 04:30:37 am
12/13/2018 10:46:25 am
12/13/2018 06:31:57 pm
Mr. Redfern, you are more accurate than I think others will believe. I'm on my Android, so I can't go into much detail other than to say that during the time you are speaking of, I was living in Sedona, Arizona. There were lots of UFO sightings in that area during those days. In actuality, they were very strange and very scary Unidentified Flying Objects - Stealth airplanes - whose existence was of course, vehemently denied.
12/13/2018 11:39:21 am
Hi Jason, Great post! Thanks.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
12/15/2018 12:30:33 pm
People who say "erstwhile" usually don't know that it means.
12/13/2018 02:31:29 pm
Anyone who has ever spent any time on a USAF base knows that rumors and disinformation are as common as 3.2 beer.
12/15/2018 01:35:33 am
American Cool "disco" Dan
12/15/2018 10:59:19 am
Screw cancer. If you put cyanide in my coffee I'll be dead within minutes and many people would be happy.
12/17/2018 08:24:39 pm
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