If the promotional spots for America Unearthed are to be believed, tonight Scott Wolter gets taken in by a known nineteenth century hoax and spends the hour assuming it’s true. I can’t believe that the producers of the show are that stupid, but I can’t really put anything past them. I guess I’ll have to wait and see. In the meantime, let’s talk about Lovecraft. The following are some more or less coherent thoughts, but not really a true analysis since I haven’t had the time to develop my ideas more fully. This week the New York Review of Books published a meditation on H. P. Lovecraft by Minnesota author Charles Baxter, who writes primarily literary fiction. Baxter’s point of reference was the publication of Leslie S. Klinger’s New Annotated Lovecraft (Liveright, 2014), unread by me, which collects several of Lovecraft’s most popular stories and exhaustively explains their origins and allusions in marginal notes. Baxter is not a fan of Lovecraft, seeing in him something less than the literary, but he is also no fan of those who like Lovecraft. He describes his experience teaching English to antisocial young men who like to write violent fantasy fiction dominated by themes of alienation and rage: The authors of these horrific fictions sit in the back of the classroom avoiding eye contact, rarely speaking to anybody. Shabbily dressed, fidgety, tattooed, hysterically sullen, they are bored by realism and reality when not actively hostile to both. When asked about their reading, they will gamely mumble the usual list of names: Neal Stephenson, Stephen King, J.G. Ballard, and Philip K. Dick. But the name that I have heard most often mentioned in these litanies is that of H.P. Lovecraft, whom they revere. He is their spirit-guide. Tell us how you really feel, Chuck! There are two different threads at work here, both related to elitism. Baxter clearly sees Lovecraft a popular rather than literary writer, one whose fiction is—gasp!—not realistic and therefore less worthy than, let’s say, Baxter’s. Like Edmund Wilson, whom Baxter cites, he sees Lovecraft as a minimally talented hack who happened to hit upon a few good themes. Indeed, the very concept of annotating Lovecraft is for Baxter itself a shocking affront to literature: “…the effect is like having a friendly and obliging professor whispering learned asides all through a blood-spattered grind-house movie.”
If there is one thing that I tried to stress in my own history of the horror genre, Knowing Fear, it is that the line between the literary and the popular is arbitrary and changeable, and that as much if not more is to be learned from popular fiction as from canonical literature. It’s hard to remember now, but the works of “literary” horror Baxter cites--Frankenstein and The Monk among others—were originally scandalous popular works condemned by their early critics as mere popular entertainments unfit for the literary mind. I’ve collected several such notices in my anthology A Hideous Bit of Morbidity, which is essentially an extended cri de coeur from cultural elites that new voices continuously challenge the elite definition of high culture. The other thread is Baxter’s distaste for Lovecraft fans, whom he stereotypes for, in essence, participating in the so-called geek culture. It’s clear that Baxter sees Lovecraft as of a piece with his modern fans, and certainly not a member of the real elite—he dings Lovecraft for never traveling to the font of real culture, Europe (but fails to note Lovecraft’s many trips across the U.S. and to Quebec). He similarly accuses Lovecraft of being “a stranger to joy” and obsessed with writing only of his horror of sex, though he does allow that Lovecraft’s stories are also about blaspheming Christianity, presumably also because of the Christian emphasis on chastity. In fact, he claims that Lovecraft’s only worthwhile literary theme is of flawed resurrection, that the Christian promise of the revival of the flesh is a horror. If I read this right, Baxter accidentally justified the existence of zombie movies. Baxter, though, is one of the old fashioned style of literary analysts, and he chooses to follow Stephen King in reducing Lovecraft’s monsters to Freudian readings, quoting King as calling Cthulhu a vagina dentata and asserting that in “The Thing on the Doorstep” Asenath Waite has, in essence, penis envy. (He seems to miss the suggestion that she doesn’t actually appear in the story at all, and that her father inhabited her vacant body.) But I am going on too long about something that doesn’t really say very much at all. Baxter concludes by arguing—wrongly I would say—that Lovecraft’s fiction is not frightening because World War II and modern atrocities have rendered such horrors “quaint.” Instead, he sees Lovecraft as an adolescent trapped in a man’s body, one who raged against reality and refused to put aside childish things to become a truly adult literary writer. I think that Baxter errs in failing to consider Lovecraft’s horrors as a reflection of the mythic, not the literal. For someone who is willing to read Lovecraft’s work as an extended travesty of Christianity, the refusal to consider its themes and impact on the level of myth is confusing. In the end, Baxter recognizes that there is power in Lovecraft’s fiction, but—like, we must assume, the other parts of geek culture like comic books and video games—an essentially “childish” power.
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J.A Dickey
12/13/2014 05:26:05 am
C.Baxter's definition is too narrow. All writers are trapped in
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"J" not "K"
12/13/2014 05:31:06 am
[mib oops]
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Kal
12/13/2014 05:26:29 am
"which collects several of Lovecraft’s most stories and exhaustively explains their origins and allusions..."
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Shane Sullivan
12/13/2014 07:25:27 am
To his credit, Baxter does pick up on the symbolic connection between Lovecraft's use of alien horror and his contempt for non-whites. That, at least, is a fair criticism.
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EP
12/13/2014 07:32:25 am
"To his credit... That, at least, is a fair criticism."
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Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 07:49:22 am
He means that Baxter's criticism of Lovecraft's racism is valid, even if most of what Baxter says is junk.
EP
12/13/2014 07:58:38 am
Why's is it "to his credit", then?
EP
12/13/2014 08:04:06 am
Oh, I see - I read "does" as "doesn't". I'm an idiot!
EP
12/13/2014 07:26:29 am
“…the effect is like having a friendly and obliging professor whispering learned asides all through a blood-spattered grind-house movie.”
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EP
12/13/2014 07:43:38 am
Just read Baxter's piece in its entirety. Jason was really kind to him, actually... What unbearably pretentious pseudo-intellectual drivel!
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spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 07:45:18 am
The only useful thing about that review is that it lays bare the real issue, and that is classist distaste for geek culture. I think it would be going too far too accuse it of ableism, but like a lot of parody or criticism of geeks and nerds, it's hard to not see stereotypes of the autism spectrum. But there is a valid critique of fandom that all too often becomes a highly classist defense from the barbarians at the gates.
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EP
12/13/2014 08:17:39 am
"Epic Pooh" strikes me as quite silly. It's not as cringingly bad as this Baxter piece, but still...
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Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 08:42:11 am
I find it as grating as the little I've read of C.S. Lewis' apologetics (which I find very grating indeed). And although I see spookyparadigm's point, I have a growing dislike of literary criticism in general (sorry, Jason!). I still feel that there ought to be some way of determining that, say, The Wire is better than Twilight. But the more I get into the details, the more pointless and depressing the whole exercise feels. Every story in existence has somebody to criticize it, so if I read all the criticism I would end up feeling that no story is good enough. I just avoid the stuff now.
spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 08:53:59 am
That was my initial reaction. It reads like a narrow political screed of "Stop having fun and take MY politics seriously in your fiction!"
EP
12/13/2014 09:55:31 am
@ NtCdSG: I share your feelings about Lewis, but that doesn't make Moorcock's piece any less silly. Besides, Lewis was a legit literary scholar (albeit the definition of bland Oxonian mediocrity), while Moorcock just comes across as trying to sound smarter and more learned than he really is, and failing miserably. His essays is filled with absurd claims that are strictly quite independent of his main message.
EP
12/13/2014 09:59:57 am
The age demanded an image
spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 10:08:20 am
Re: Dickinson vs. Star Wars
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 10:16:56 am
I wasn't defending Moorcock, by any means. I'm saying that I find him and Lewis equally obnoxious.
EP
12/13/2014 10:59:10 am
I recently noticed, and rolled my eyes at, the fact that "zombie readiness" is a legit section of firearms and survivalist marketing... I have no idea how that happened (a bottom-up study is called for, like you said), but I sure don't see it as emerging from the same place as Hollywood zombies, pop-Apocalypticism, etc. Indeed, they simply must be incapable of detecting the anti-capitalist, anti-war, environmentalist, and other allegories in zombies and the rest of it.
spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 11:11:38 am
I didn't say you should dislike them. I'm saying Charles Baxter, channeling Edmund Wilson, does.
EP
12/13/2014 11:57:37 am
Not to belabor it, but how are you saying *that*? I thought you were saying, in effect, that you wouldn't go as far as they do, but that you see where they are coming from.
Shane Sullivan
12/13/2014 10:39:28 am
I don't mean to pile on Michael Moorcock, but am I to understand that the author of the *Elric* stories, with their Freudian allegories and goofy portrayal of Albinism, was complaining about vapid fantasy fiction...?
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spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 10:45:48 am
No, he was complaining about the political flavor of one kind of vapid fantasy vs. another.
EP
12/13/2014 11:02:17 am
I've undercut myself by being an ass on occasion. Shocking, I know :)
Shane Sullivan
12/13/2014 12:39:57 pm
"That's why I don't like his essay, but think that there is a key concept in it worth looking at stripped of personal jackassery."
EP
12/13/2014 12:57:46 pm
Fact: Most authors who wish to be seen as "highbrow" secretly dream of having their work turned into a Julia Roberts movie. And most of them are every bit as formulaic and shallow as that requires.
Mark L
12/13/2014 08:15:52 pm
I'm not sure you're understanding the word "fact" there. The words you were looking for were "baseless supposition". It's weird to read that sort of ugly anti-intellectualism coming from someone as smart as you. Do you just really not like any sort of fiction? Because to say "highbrow authors want their books turned into Julia Roberts movies" is to say that there's no real difference between, say, Danielle Steele and Nabokov. Which I strongly disagree with.
EP
12/14/2014 07:58:16 am
Let's look some other words: 'most', 'wish' and 'seen'. As in "most authors who wish to be seen as highbrow". Which is what I said. My statement does no refer to anyone else. It is admittedly my opinion, but is far from "baseless".
spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 11:16:01 am
Excuse my ignorance. While I was familiar with Wilson's haterade on Lovecraft, when I wrote the above I was not aware he had also shit even more thoroughly on Tolkien.
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EP
12/13/2014 11:48:31 am
He shat on lots of overrated popular authors. Like Kafka.
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 12:09:39 pm
No, he was a literary critic, which is a very low form of life.
EP
12/13/2014 12:27:25 pm
You're being sarcarstic, NtCdSG, right? Otherwise... like... how much Wilson have you read?...
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 12:45:55 pm
No, just really ill-tempered. I explained why I'm growing to hate literary criticism up above.
EP
12/13/2014 01:05:29 pm
You should read Edmund Wilson's essays on Houdini or the Sacco & Vancetti trial. Neither one is on literary matters and you'd see a totally different side of the man :)
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 01:41:51 pm
Fair points. Forgive my outburst. My growing allergy to literary criticism, or at least the negative kind, makes me irritable. As a result, I'm increasingly moving away from fiction and toward nonfiction, which isn't as subjective. Which is why I probably shouldn't have commented on this blog post in the first place.
EP
12/13/2014 02:00:43 pm
"nonfiction, which isn't as subjective"
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/13/2014 02:14:53 pm
Oh, I know there are still plenty of arguments about nonfiction. But for whatever reason, I find studying history, even with all its academic disagreements, less uncomfortable.
Cathleen Anderson
12/13/2014 11:06:44 am
Considering how many of the gamers out there are 50 and over (including me)...
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Kal
12/13/2014 11:19:34 am
Epic Pooh came out in 1978, several months to a year after the first Star Wars, and the book does not refer directly to that film. It's more about children's fantasy and Tolkein. A later 1989 draft might have included it but does not say it. (wikipedia summary).
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spookyparadigm
12/13/2014 11:32:28 am
Science fiction in even the narrowest definition goes back to at least Wells and Verne, and I've seen definitions that go back farther. And much of the reason the Golden Age gets defined that way is that it was considered to have begun to rise above its pulp roots.
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Clint Knapp
12/13/2014 02:20:42 pm
Wow. I should've known this one was going to turn into an enormous discussion by well-read and thoughtful people. I've enjoyed everything so far and don't even have much to add that hasn't been covered.
EP
12/13/2014 02:35:43 pm
I think you're pretty much spot on about Gulliver's Travels. Except this part: "it devolves quickly into the absurd (recall experiments to extract sunlight from plants, or mix paint by smell)". This is actually satire of what Swift considered impractical experimental science of his day - and isn't really that far off from what SCIENCE! looked like in the early 18th century :)
Shane Sullivan
12/13/2014 02:50:04 pm
I was going to bring up the Air Loom. I know it wasn't fiction in the mind of James Tilly Matthews, but that shit was Jules Verne before Jules Verne was even born.
EP
12/13/2014 02:52:37 pm
https://frostydrew.org/papers.dc/papers/paper-somnium/
Clint Knapp
12/13/2014 02:56:49 pm
Good point. I was looking more at Gulliver's PoV on the absurdity of Laputa than the objective view of 18th century science as a whole, an error indeed! Everything about the floating island-city serves so well to set it apart as a wholly alien culture, it's easy to get lost in the weird during that section of the book. 12/15/2014 12:18:32 pm
Science fiction as we know it began with Mary Shelley, not Wells or Verne. Science fiction and horror were inextricably linked from the beginning.
EP
12/16/2014 03:35:57 am
Except for all the above-mentioned authors who predate her...
a critic
12/20/2014 12:16:01 pm
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/lucians-true-history.html
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12/20/2014 12:31:43 pm
Ben Franklin popularized a lightning rod, this gives
Only Me
12/13/2014 05:50:15 pm
Here's my take on Baxter and Moorcock; neither man's opinion is worth the time it took to read.
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EP
12/13/2014 05:53:13 pm
"insecurities concerning the skill of his own pen"
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Only Me
12/13/2014 06:01:59 pm
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink ;)
EP
12/13/2014 06:32:41 pm
You might even say his "pencil" is "2B soft"... And his "3-hole punch" got real low "sheet capacity"...
Residents Fan
12/14/2014 01:12:55 am
"Moorcock knows he will be forgotten..."
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EP
12/14/2014 03:37:59 am
I bet that all the people you mention will also be forgotten :)
Only Me
12/14/2014 06:31:18 am
I was just making a point when I wrote that, Residents Fan.
Shane Sullivan
12/14/2014 07:44:07 am
It's also difficult to make the case that the popularity of "comfort food" reduces the market for higher quality literature if one of his examples of quality is the immensely popular Rowling.
EP
12/14/2014 08:28:14 am
Shane, you've been on fire with excellent points recently!
Shane Sullivan
12/14/2014 10:16:48 am
Thanks. As they say, a broken clock is right twice a day.
EP
12/14/2014 10:18:41 am
...unless its hands are missing :P
Residents Fan
12/14/2014 01:30:29 am
To return to the main topic...Baxter doesn't seem to have
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spookyparadigm
12/14/2014 05:30:55 am
Joshi weighed in
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spookyparadigm
12/14/2014 05:39:10 am
Wait, I forgot a few.
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EP
12/14/2014 06:29:21 am
" Lovely."
EP
12/14/2014 06:25:52 am
My two favorite sentences in Joshi's reply to Baxter are near the end. First:
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Clint Knapp
12/14/2014 07:30:51 am
How nice of Joshi to once again spend entirely too much time promoting his own expertise. It reads like he's just upset that someone wrote an article about Lovecraft without consulting him first; or better yet, without offering him the job instead.
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Residents Fan
12/16/2014 04:51:54 am
It's odd that Joshi mentions W. P. Blatty, Clive Barker and Anne Rice* in his list of weird fiction authors, since in "The Modern Weird Tale" he criticised these authors' work as having little literary merit. So unless he has changed his mind on them, why,
Residents Fan
12/15/2014 02:52:53 am
"He starts off not on that page, but on his blog with
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EP
12/15/2014 06:49:53 am
...William Shakespeare :)
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EngLit
12/20/2014 11:50:45 am
Christopher Marlowe is too edgy to be just a "pop" phenom! 12/16/2014 07:03:02 am
"Except for all the above-mentioned authors who predate her..."
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EP
12/16/2014 07:22:46 am
"I just find it curious that in everybody's haste to find that First Science Fiction Story, so many people skip right over Shelley to pick some earlier male author who is more obscure and whose work is not nearly as on genre point, or some later male author who is no more seminal than Shelley."
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12/16/2014 07:38:52 am
Sure. Because answering several paragraphs of an argument you don't like with condescending one-liners makes you look *so* erudite.
EP
12/16/2014 07:55:12 am
Well, if you insist...
Clint Knapp
12/16/2014 03:14:32 pm
Well, since I'm the one who brought up Swift and Gulliver's Travels I'm going to go ahead and reinforce what EP said; it wasn't about influence, it was about chronology.
EP
12/16/2014 03:24:58 pm
Frankenstein (thanks largely to Hollywood's questionable adaptations and Shelley's popularity among feminists) is arguably less "obscure" in the English-speaking world. But everywhere else, it's easily trumped by Gulliver's Travels.
.
12/20/2014 12:46:26 pm
EP--- "It's because we're all a bunch of sexist male chauvinists, right?"
EP
12/20/2014 03:37:30 pm
Since you have fortunately stayed out of this thread until now, I couldn't possibly have been referring to you, so your attention-seeking fake outrage is, as always, misplaced.
.
12/26/2014 02:23:44 am
duckie... you asked her a question where the only logical
UTOPIA
12/20/2014 11:57:05 am
Is Sir Thomas More's fictional Utopia legitimately Science Fiction?
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8/23/2015 01:21:17 pm
"He similarly accuses Lovecraft of being “a stranger to joy” and obsessed with writing only of his horror of sex, though he does allow that Lovecraft’s stories are also about blaspheming Christianity, presumably also because of the Christian emphasis on chastity. " that got me laughing out loud, thank you! whether this take on Lovecraft is true or not, it is a hilarious self contradictory concept of a personality to contemplate.
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