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Claim: Set of 8-Foot-Tall Giant Skeletons from 1400-1500 CE Found Near Cuenca, Ecuador

10/8/2015

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It amazes me that every time there is a sensational “discovery” of giants, the trail back to the original sources quickly runs into a wall. Today Ancient Origins published a piece claiming that a set of skeletons measuring nearly eight feet tall were found 70 miles from Cuenca, Ecuador by a British anthropologist named Russell Dement. Their source is an article from Monday by Liam Higgins in the Cuenca High Life magazine, an expatriate publication aimed primarily at British retirees who have made Cuenca their home. That article added the detail that Dement was working with Berlin’s Freie Universität to study the remains. Naturally, attempts to check this information ran into a wall. I can find no record of Russell Dement anywhere outside the two articles linked, and Freie Universität has no publicly available information about Dement or the supposed Shuar settlement near Cuenca where the giants were unearthed, despite Dement’s claims that the university is funding his research.
Dement dated the skeletons to the 1400s or 1500s. “I don’t want to make claims based on speculation since our work is ongoing. Because of the size of the skeletons, this has both anthropological and medical implications,” he told Higgins.
 
Naturally, Dement declined to provide Higgins with photographs or other evidence to document his claims. So far as I can tell, Higgins did not do basic reporting to verify Dement’s identity or his affiliation, or check whether the Ecuadoran government had records of excavation permits or human remains export permits.
 
It seems odd that Dement would break the news in a lightly read expatriate publication without even a hint of the supposed discovery making it into mainstream Ecuadoran news sources.
 
If this seems to have a ring of familiarity to it, it would be because the area where this supposedly happened is the famous Tayos Cave of Ecuador, where Erich von Däniken alleged that space aliens had constructed laser-carved caves filled with golden statues and texts. Tayos Cave is apparently just 30 minutes from Cuenca. According to fringe claims that I cannot verify, the local Shuar people claim that the cave contains evidence of giants who descended from heaven. Ancient astronaut authors report that the caves are sometimes said to be the work of giants. In 2013, Bruce Fenton, a fringe researcher who appeared on the Science Channel’s Unexplained Files, identified a nearby natural rock formation as a lost city of giants.
 
Cuenca is also less than 125 miles (200 km) from Guayquil, were the Natives reported to Pedro Cieza de Leon that a tribe of sodomite giants had come ashore and had been wiped out by an angel during an orgy. That legend had a pretty clear origin point. From 1543 down the present, the region has been well-known for the “giants’” bones found in there, bones known since the nineteenth century to have belonged to Pleistocene megafauna. The story was meant to explain the bones that erupted from the ground from time to time.
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David Bradbury
10/8/2015 03:39:20 pm

The "High Life" article also mentions Franz Bosch, who got headhunted by the Jivaro circa 1907 according to another "High Life" article. Strangely, that too seems to be the only document referring to the events it describes.

Could it be that there are some people at "High Life" with not enough news to report?

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Judith Bennett
10/8/2015 03:45:34 pm

I suspect that Russell Dement is an anthropologist in the same way that Brien Foerster and David Hatcher Childress are archaeologists. That's assuming, of course, that this isn't an elaborated hoax by Higgins. Russell Dement(ed) is almost too perfect a name.

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Scarecrow
10/8/2015 04:16:03 pm

Russell Dement reminds me of Randall Stevens.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
10/8/2015 04:26:21 pm

Yeah, gut feeling here is this is a practical joke.

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Clete
10/8/2015 04:40:44 pm

"Cuenca High Life"....sounds to me to be a brand of beer. I guess if you drank enough of them you could get high in Cuenca.

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Tony
10/9/2015 11:38:27 am

And, if you happen to be driving at the time, ending up in a cuenca ("basin" in English).

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eyecoin
11/9/2015 11:20:07 pm

The High Life in the name is because Cuenca is in the highlands of Ecuador and focuses on retirees living there.

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nali
10/8/2015 07:16:26 pm

Funny, it seems that the name "Russell" means "Red haired".
Which is of course the colors of the hairs of the ....

http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/russell

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nali
10/8/2015 07:28:52 pm

Sorry for the double post, I had an idea.
Or maybe it' relative to Lex Luthor !
Well ...
Lex Luthor was originally red haired. He's quite a mad scientist.
Seeing how strong Superman is, he is a kind of giant.

Dement comes from the latin world "demens" . In french, "dément" = crazy.

So we have a red haired scientist (Russell Dement), who knows the truth about a "super human".

Just a point of view, but this could make sense )

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A.D.
10/8/2015 09:10:50 pm

This "giants" crap is another variant of the racist moundbuilder myth.

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Tony
10/9/2015 11:58:48 am

Laser-carved caves? I'll bet von Däniken's fan's thought that claim was cutting edge info.

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Bruce Fenton link
10/9/2015 02:54:20 pm

Jason,

As you can imagine I am not a regular visitor to your site but I see you have posted on the same matter that concerned me, the lack of any evidence this anthropologist exists.

I will tell you this, a few months ago I was living in Bahia de Caracas, coastal Ecuador, a region that is associated with very old reports of fossilised giants (as you know). A local man told me a tale about a fairly recent discovery, near to Bahia, made by a foreign team of researchers, led there by locals. They supposedly found two or three sets of skeletons, in a cave hidden in a rock face, that were each around 2.5 metres in height. Dating suggested 16th century. The skeletons were apparently seized by Banco Central and shipped abroad.

The two tales are so similar as to seem to me to be Chinese whispers of an older story, whether that original story be real or imagined. I guess each region tells the tale differently.

As for your comment about me identifying a natural feature as a lost city of giants that is false in two parts. Firstly the site has not be proven to be natural, that is merely your opinion as you have no detailed analysis from a reputable geologist. It is a fact that the site has produced hundreds of human made artefacts, so whether you accept the megalithic stonework of the structure this really does not say anything about the artefacts. Worked stone tools and otehr artistisc pieces do not grow on jungle trees in the middle of teh Amazon. Also I did not identify it as such, a member of the first team that discovered it actually described it to me as a lost city of giants and I reported on what he had told me.

I am quite sure now which people the site is connected to and that are not giants (nor aliens or super powered ancient Aryans), but it is still a fascinating conclusion.

Regards

Bruce

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Bruce Fenton
10/9/2015 02:57:19 pm

I should have added that Loja is nowhere near the megalithic site in the Llanganatis jungle, they are quite distant in fact being about 8 hours drive apart.

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Jay
8/13/2016 08:48:56 pm

Thank you for researching this. I just spent the last hour trying to find these name in the article and found nothing expect what you found.

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IJ
9/21/2022 08:01:34 pm

If you read the articles Jason, the guy who found them is reported to be saying the following...

“We are very early in our research and I am only able to provide a general overview of what we have found. I don’t want to make claims based on speculation since our work is ongoing. Because of the size of the skeletons, this has both anthropological and medical implications,”

Also it was supposed to be only around 7'4" and there are people living at that height now, so don't get your panties in a twist.

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