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CNN Analyst Peter Bergen Launches New Podcast with UFO Episode

5/16/2023

24 Comments

 
​Journalist Peter Bergen, probably best known from his appearances on CNN as a national security analyst, launched a new podcast through Audible today, In the Room with Peter Bergen. The high-profile new podcast aims to cover national security issues and today’s three-episode launch includes an episode on flying saucers—because, of course you need UFOs to draw interest. As you might expect, the podcast includes interviews with the usual suspects, including Alex Dietrich, Chris Mellon, Mick West, and Seth Shostak, as well as New Yorker writer Gideon Lewis-Krauss. It also has nothing of value to say about UFOs, as evidenced by its reliance on Lewis-Krauss, whose only connection to the UFO “mystery” is writing an article about it. But, hey, that’s enough for a lifetime ticket as a UFO “expert”!
​Bergen’s podcast is primarily a rehash of what others have written about UFOs. Primarily, it summarizes Lewis-Krauss’s New Yorker piece from a couple of years back, Leslie Kean’s and Ralph Blumenthal’s faulty New York Times pieces since 2017, and the book Mirage Men, with a sprinkling of debunking from West and Shostak. The largest part of the podcast is devoted to summarizing Mirage Men and the allegation that the U.S. federal government created UFO conspiracy theories, fabricated documents, and pressured the media to debunk claims of space alien UFO pilots. Bergen doesn’t bother to think too hard about this. His only comment is to incidentally note that “there isn't any official confirmation that the U.S. government ran a disinformation campaign that accidentally inspired the X-Files,” before reminding listeners that Mirage Men author Mark Pilkington makes “a good argument.”
 
It’s an even-handed summary to the point of becoming actively useless. Without some indication of what to believe or which claims are more credible, everything becomes equally probable to listeners who lack detailed background knowledge.
 
Merely summarizing other people’s work isn’t the worst media sin, but Bergen remains remarkably uncritical and incurious as he discusses UFOs. He never challenges his guests, asking no tough questions, and simply accepting everything they say at face value. Chris Mellon literally claims space aliens are flying through our skies, and Bergen offers not a word of pushback, treating the statement from someone he notes “served in the Pentagon during the Clinton and Bush administrations” with the same blasé indifference he affords to Mick West’s detailed explanations of debunked UFO videos. “His explanations are pretty heavy on math,” Bergen complains of West.
 
The only time Bergen shows a bit of spark is when he reveals how deeply his perceptions are shaped by the New York Times and The New Yorker, two elite publications that he implicitly trusts, to the point of credulity. As a member of the media elite, his approach is that of the elite media, being above it all, a disinterested observer who doesn’t need to think too deeply. The half-hearted, half-assed approach In the Room takes probably reflects Bergen’s own lack of interest in a subject he is clearly covering for the clicks. “Now I'm not really a sci-fi guy,” he says at one point. “This, honestly, is just not a topic I spend a lot of time thinking about.”
 
Perhaps he ought to have spent a little more time thinking about it. With no particular purpose in mind beyond profit and no effort to discern truth, his rehash of rehashes contributes nothing of value but does manage to muddy the waters by treating space aliens as a coequal explanation, despite the insistence down the line, from independent scientists to the Pentagon team in charge of UFO analysis, that there is no evidence whatsoever of space aliens on earth. 
24 Comments
Kent
5/16/2023 04:15:26 pm

"Merely summarizing other people’s work isn’t the worst media sin"

May I point out that the article begins with the word "Journalist"?

"Without some indication of what to believe..."

"Testing, one two, one two
Will the audience convene at 1:15 outside Brixton Town Hall, where we will be going?
to cut out the deadwood
(Waiting) to clean up the city
(Waiting) to follow the worms
(Waiting) to put on a black shirt
(Waiting) to weed out the weaklings
to smash in their windows and kick in their doors
(Waiting) for the final solution to strengthen the strain
(Waiting) to follow the worms
(Waiting) to turn on the showers and fire the ovens
(Waiting) for the queers and the coons and the reds and the Jews
(Waiting) to follow the worms"

- R. Waters
_______________________
"he reveals how deeply his perceptions are shaped by the New York Times and The New Yorker ....This, honestly, is just not a topic I spend a lot of time thinking about.'"

NOW we have TWO problems.

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Lewis-Krauss is a scatterbrain
5/16/2023 04:50:05 pm

His UFO article was 13,000 words about nothing.

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Alphard
5/17/2023 12:56:16 am

"...there is no evidence whatsoever of space aliens on earth."

Have you seen William Henry? Pretty sure that dude is from his own planet.

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Jackth0mas
5/17/2023 02:04:58 am

You see, Jason, you ARE aware of what sells, or you wouldn’t say Bergen was.. The weird thing is, you obviously love delving into the ufo topic, and your critiques are fun and hilarious. You don’t have to be a publisher [i was] to note you have a ufo-skeptic fan base, and broad and fun take on the subject, some great takedowns of personas, and some wry humor…in other words, WRITE A UFO BOOK, and go fo a times best seller. Dean? The only topic you probably love more than Dean is UFOs. Only one of those two topics sells in the way a publisher wants.

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Jason Colavito link
5/17/2023 03:51:19 pm

Do you imagine that in the past twenty years I've never tried? It is very difficult to sell a skeptical UFO book; indeed, a publisher once asked me if I could change my mind to write one from a pro-alien point of view. And, historically, UFO books don't sell all that well. The new crop inspired by AARO and the Congressional hearings won't come to market until later this year, so I'm not sure how well it will hold, but the general consensus among publishers is that they want an astronomer, rocket scientist, or TV personality to write them--not me.

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It's True
5/18/2023 01:38:33 am

That's what publishers do. You need to get self-published on PDF.
Hundreds of people doing it.

Gary
5/19/2023 09:14:45 pm

Sounds like the publishers want Travis Taylor.

E.P. Grondine
5/23/2023 12:37:52 pm

I have a short reminiscence for you.

Years ago,I was reading through Truman'a security briefings for my History of Cosmonautics. I read through the whole Mongoose recon balloon materials.

A fewv months later, that became a national story .with an Air Force release But I did not make a dime on it. I just watched the pubic play.I had met reliable UFO witnesses before this occured
'
My asumption here is that you are a working writer looking for a way to earn cash. I've also written some sci-fi on UFOs, but no sale to Holywood. But I am not dead yet, so who knows?

Kent
5/25/2023 01:14:34 am

@Mr. PoopoDineOgrigio:

Let me get this straight:

You claim to have read something.

You claim to not have been paid for it.

Where do you see a problem with this?

Graham
5/17/2023 06:15:19 am

Sounds like Netflix where they've released a documentary claiming that Cleopatra was a Sub-Saharan African.

This was rather a sad decision, since if they'd just bothered to look at Nubia, they'd have found a kingdom well worth bringing to light, especially their long tradition of Queens, all bearing the regnal name Candace. A state that managed to keep the Romans out.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
5/21/2023 03:02:48 pm

... But did any of them ever manage to bust their brothers?

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E.P. Grondine
5/23/2023 12:57:32 pm

Hi Graham -

The lack of books and videos on African history is remarkable as a historical process.

A short analysis of the reasons for this lack far exceeds the scope of a post to Jasonj's blog. How would one or could one find funding to change this situation? I do not have a clue.

Years ago I met a young lady who was headed tor Timbuktu to work on texts, and years before that was in touch with a working researcher from South Africa. My own plate is full with impact events elsewhere.

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Kent
5/25/2023 01:28:52 am

@Senior Dwarflord Grondine:

"The lack of books and videos on African history is remarkable as a historical process."

The failure of sub-Saharan Africans to develop writing is indeed a headscratchers. They had thousands of years.

"A short analysis of the reasons for this lack far exceeds the scope of a post to Jasonj's blog. How would one or could one find funding to change this situation? I do not have a clue."

Always the whore, eh? Come up with an idea then apply for the grant, otherwise spend the rest of your days providing Kooky Burns Specials behind the gas station.

"Years ago I met a young lady who was headed tor Timbuktu to work on texts, and years before that was in touch with a working researcher from South Africa. My own plate is full with impact events elsewhere."

Yes, fine, pretty much everyone on the planet has met a stripper. Timbuktu AND South Africa? I met a Canadian once, can I get in on this deal? They're all basically the same country after all.

I shudder to think what your plate is full of.

What I hear you saying is you sent or received a postcard.

ANNABEL
5/17/2023 04:45:19 pm

To those who have read a few books on the topic of aliens it is obvious that both positive and negative aliens have been involved with Earth and humanity for a long time. Now the question is does alien-denialism benefit positive or negative ones?

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Kent
5/18/2023 09:09:36 pm

I take issue with your premise. It's not obvious at all. Although I'm told Ancient Aliens theorists say "Yes!"

"Shall I electrocute you while you're waiting, Sir and then hack your body into pieces and feed your genitals to the geese?"

"Yes!"

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ANNABEL
5/20/2023 06:05:33 am

Have you read any books on the topic lately? What was the last one?

Kent
5/25/2023 08:05:47 pm

"ANNABEL
5/20/2023 06:05:33 am
Have you read any books on the topic lately? What was the last one?"

It was a while ago. A book called "Do Not Read This Book" by Abbot Howard Hoffman of Brandeis University. Unfortunately I cannot tell you what was in it; a woman named "Jannzabel" was mentioned but I wouldn't feel comfortable relating the details. I will say however, saucy!

The question is....
5/19/2023 04:29:41 am

Why didn't the aliens help to defeat the Spanish in Central and South America ?

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Kent
5/19/2023 06:10:34 pm

"THE QUESTION IS....
5/19/2023 04:29:41 am
Why didn't the aliens help to defeat the Spanish in Central and South America ?"

Because interfere with God's plan to crush colored people when African Kangs were too uppity and too advance with their Egyptian math to take on so Raoul and Destiny had to take their crushing game on the road.

"Juanita and Juan
Very clever with maracas
Makin' their fortunes
Selling second-hand tobaccos

Juan dances at Chico's
And when the clients are evicted
He empties the ashtrays
And pockets all that he's collected"

If a man in bikini briefs with a samurai sword chasing a guy on a motorcycle is not your scene, please do not watch this:
https://youtu.be/HcXNPI-IPPM

ANNABEL
5/20/2023 06:09:49 am

The Prime Directive might be the reason.

Jim
5/24/2023 04:34:27 pm

Annabel, you think the aliens adopted Starfleet rules from Star Trek ?
They must have had a really long cable, I wonder if they watched Mork and Mindy as well.

ANNABEL
5/25/2023 07:02:32 am

It is the other way around. Star Trek is based on real life.

Kent
5/25/2023 07:48:03 pm

"ANNABEL
5/25/2023 07:02:32 am
It is the other way around. Star Trek is based on real life."

If that's your way of telling us you're really hot you're smarter than I think you are. Ever work the powwow circuit? Ever "gone" to Timbuktu?

Just so you know, I rock a sheath, what anthropologists would call a koteka. Sometimes I double up. Holla!

Paul
5/19/2023 10:05:43 pm

Contrary to what others propose, t’was alien ufo crashes that caused the Younger Dryas Impact issues. There are craters, just can’t show them to you. Caused the megafauna extinction, just don’t tell the bison and bears. Also, the radiation from a heretofore undiscovered radioactive element caused the gamma ray/C14 effect The craft plowing through the glacier unleashed a tsunami of cold water into the Atlantic Ocean that screwed up the natural currents.
And that is that. I know it is so cause the Earth Goddess informed me during a hallucinogenic binge.

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