You knew it was bound to happen. Ancient Aliens has officially entered into the halls of power. On Wednesday, the U.S. House of Representatives Science, Space and Technology Committee held a hearing on astrobiology and to discuss questions related to extraterrestrial life. The Committee heard testimony from Dr. Seth Shostak, the senior astronomer at the SETI Institute, and Dr. Dan Werthimer, the director of SETI research at the University of California Berkeley. The two men discussed the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and fielded questions from the assembled representatives that ranged from thoughtful to ignorant. The big news out of the hearing—and the part that made headlines—was Shostak’s and Werthimer’s assertion that there is a 99.99% chance that life exists elsewhere in the universe. This might have been news to the media, but it has been a well-supported scientific view for decades.
Before we begin, I should disclose that I met Dr. Shostak a couple of years ago when we were both in Washington to shoot a National Geographic Channel UFO documentary. Shostak, frankly, was terse, rather aloof, and not at all interested in speaking with me. During the hearing, Rep. Bill Johnson (R-OH) asked one of the more ridiculous questions, speculating that if intelligent life exists perhaps the aliens have been monitoring us for decades “and just don’t like what we have to say… Maybe they got their caller ID block on or something.” Werthimer suggested in response that aliens may well know the earth exists, and Shostak declined to speculate about whether aliens enjoy our television shows. Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL) asked the two their thoughts on Project Bluebook, which as a high U.S. government official Posey would presumably be in a better position to know about than two scientists from California. Shostak told Posey that he is skeptical about alien contact but noted that a large and steady percentage, about one third, of Americans have believed in alien visitation since the 1960s. Nevertheless, he pointed to the fact that nearly seven decades after the so-called Roswell incident there remains not a single shred of proof aliens came to earth. But Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) had the question of the day. Since it touches on many of the themes I cover here, I am transcribing the conversation in full: COLLINS: Have you watched Ancient Aliens, and what’s your comment about that series? We’ll start with you Dr. Shostak. SHOSTAK: Yes, I think I’ve been on it, actually. [LAUGHTER] SHOSTAK: More than once! Look, the public is fascinated with the idea that we may be being visited now or may have been visited in the past—the so-called UFO phenomenon. I personally don’t share the conviction that we are being visited. I don’t think that would be something that all the governments of the world had managed to hide and keep secret. I don’t believe that. But the idea that maybe we were visited during the time of the ancient Egyptians and so forth—keep in mind that the four and a half billion year history of the earth, the time of the ancient Egyptians was yesterday, right? So, again, why were they there then? What was it that brought them to Earth? I have no idea, and I don’t find very good evidence. I don’t think… I think the pyramids, for example, were probably built by Egyptians. I know that’s a radical idea for some people, but they were very clever and they could certainly do that, so I don’t think there’s any good evidence that convinces me that we were visited in historic times. COLLINS: How ’bout you, Mr. Werthimer? WERTHIMER: Um, UFOs have nothing to do with extraterrestrials. [LAUGHTER] WERTHIMER: So, even though I’m optimistic about life, there’s no evidence that any of these sightings… I think that some of these sightings are real phenomena. We get a lot of calls when the space station goes over, although some people embellish and say it has windows and things. And some of it is people’s imagination. We know that because it ties very closely to popular culture. When Jules Verne wrote about flying saucers everybody starting seeing flying saucers. Before that people saw angels. When people watch movies, then we get a lot of reports that are tied to what’s in the movies. And some of it is actually deliberate hoaxes from people making money. COLLINS: Thank you. I think that was my only question, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. [LAUGHTER] Yes, that was his only question. Thank you, Chris Collins. As a result of your efforts, we’ve now had the first ever Congressional testimony about Ancient Aliens. As a small point: It’s obvious that Werthimer misspoke in his comments. Jules Verne did not write about flying saucers. On the other hand, it was probably audacious of Shostak to tell politicians that the Egyptians built the pyramids since at least a few members (and more of their constituents) likely believe that Hebrew slaves built them. As recently as 2010 the Egyptian government was still trying to convince the non-Arab public that Egyptians built the pyramids, which Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin had claimed were built by Jews in a 1977 comment at the National Museum in Cairo.
44 Comments
Gregor
5/23/2014 05:31:54 am
"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
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.
5/23/2014 10:13:23 am
the I.Q points as manifested by these sections
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Mandalore
5/23/2014 11:22:07 am
Plus, Mars' magnetic field is too weak to protect anything on the surface from cosmic rays. The top couple of inches of the surface are self-sterilizing. I don't think there will be any Mars colonies any time soon.
Mandalore
5/23/2014 11:22:56 am
That was meant as an addition/reply to More Fantasies below. Dumb comments program.
.
5/24/2014 03:20:23 pm
when i was 15 i had hoped we'd have landed on Mars by now.
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5/24/2014 04:55:09 pm
Maladore... Percival Lowell assumed canals and tunnels once
.
6/1/2014 05:06:49 pm
Mars needs a large dome for us to terraform extensively.
More Fantasies
5/23/2014 10:57:27 am
Mars has a gravity 0.38 times that of Earth and the density of its atmosphere is 1% of that on Earth. The relatively strong gravity and the presence of aerodynamic effects makes it difficult to land heavy, crewed spacecraft with thrusters only, as was done with the Apollo moon landings, yet the atmosphere is too thin for aerodynamic effects to be of much help in braking and landing a large vehicle. Landing piloted missions on Mars will require braking and landing systems different from anything used to land crewed spacecraft on the Moon or robotic missions on Mars
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Einstein's Big Toe
5/23/2014 10:58:11 am
Some intelligent posters, here...
An Over-Educated Grunt
5/23/2014 12:19:15 pm
Of course, clearly none of the atmospheric trainers for the Apollo missions worked at all in the much denser atmosphere on Earth. Clearly there's never been even a moderately successful jetted-thrust craft on Earth, what with that pea-soup atmosphere and that crushing gravity! For that matter, the Russians clearly never manage a terrestrial landing, what with the gravity and all.
Varika
5/23/2014 01:30:29 pm
Grunt, Fantasies isn't entirely wrong. Most terrestrial landing vehicles have used either wings or parachutes. Neither works too well without much atmosphere.
.
5/24/2014 03:26:51 pm
the men who walked on the moon and are alive
Titus pullo
5/25/2014 10:27:32 am
Taking off given mars gravity well is the challenge. Maybe we can symthesize fuel on the surface.
Shawn Flynn
5/23/2014 01:36:29 pm
If this is the same committee that I think it is, its pretty ironically named. They just passed a resolution to ban the Pentagon from studying global warming.
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Gunn
5/24/2014 03:48:01 am
"House Science Committee Is More Worried About Aliens Than Climate Change."
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5/24/2014 03:11:51 pm
.rue...
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5/24/2014 03:12:27 pm
true
Varika
5/24/2014 08:30:56 am
....I admit that I'm not sure the PENTAGON is the right group to be investigating climate change. Wouldn't NOAA be a more appropriate group? Pentagon funds might be better spent on, oh, I don't know, the VA hospital system and fixing some of THOSE problems.
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.
5/24/2014 03:15:13 pm
there is one particular man-made phenomenon
Titus pullo
5/25/2014 10:31:17 am
Actually the dod should be focused on protecting america from foreign threats. Besides we spend so much more than anyone else on the military, time to reduce funding at the pentagon.
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Snarky Snakeoil
5/23/2014 03:45:08 pm
I felt bad that there wasn't much for KIF to rant about here so here's a bit so he won't feel left out....
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Snarky Snakeoil
5/23/2014 11:11:49 pm
I left out Drugs and Christianity
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WHOA
5/23/2014 11:13:00 pm
WOO --- The Burning Bush was cannabis --- Moses showed all the symptoms of consuming cannabis
Ghost of R. G. Wasson
5/23/2014 11:16:43 pm
The scholars loved my study on Maria Sabina and her Mushroom Velada - but as far away from Western Culture as possible - they wouldn't entertain the idea that entheogens were used in Ancient Greece, never mind within Christianity
Ghost of Albert Hofmann
5/23/2014 11:18:34 pm
I didn't really "discover" LSD. I rediscovered it. LSD was known about and used within religious rites throughout the ancient world.
Ghost of King David
5/23/2014 11:21:01 pm
When I made Jerusalem the capital, I decided to build the temple on an old threshing-floor. Corn was sacred. But it was a secret why it was sacred.
Blue Kingfisher
5/23/2014 11:25:28 pm
Gee, even secular Biblical scholar R. Joseph Hoffmann, founder of The Jesus Project, refuses to consider any of this information. You've just got to work outside the world of Christian scholarship to find out the straight dope
Gunn
5/24/2014 03:58:24 am
Let's not forget the contributions some of our past soldiers made to the study of LSD...without their knowledge. Soldier guinea pigs? Why not...they're already 2nd-class citizens, anyway, while in uniform. And just wait to see what we have for our present vets: "If we can't cure you, we'll kill you...all that matters is numbers, Dude, not you!"
Varika
5/24/2014 08:29:06 am
Gunn, the CIA LSD study was absolutely reprehensible...but it didn't limit itself to soldiers; there is no case for discrimination against soldiers there. The CIA has a history of results being more important than morals or ethics. Equally reprehensible is the current VA medical system, but I can't chalk that one up to bigotry, either. That's the fault of a bloated and inefficient, unwieldy system, a lack of understanding of triage, chronic understaffing, and idiocy.
.
5/24/2014 03:44:49 pm
it looks like the VA is going to continue to be underfunded Varika, what conspiracy card? Are you confusing me with someone else? I carefully look at just the facts, Ma'am, before dispensing my speculations. I don't believe in many conspiracies. For example, 9/11 was merely allowed to happen. Obviously, the assassinations of both Kennedy brothers were conspiracies. Varika, take five minutes to look into the RFK murder and you will see that our American "justice system" is anything but just. Sirhan absolutely, positively did not shoot RFK from low and behind as they faced one another the entire time. Remember, Varika, that some conspiracies are genuine. I would like to know what conspiracy card you think I'm playing around with here.
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5/29/2014 09:28:34 pm
BHO has 50/50 odds of asking his loyal Gen'L to step down
Coridan
5/23/2014 04:54:24 pm
We din't eldct the best and brightest. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q
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.
5/24/2014 03:34:00 pm
in WW2 it was fought over. the island did not sink
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Franken New York
5/24/2014 07:56:47 am
I'm a little disappointed by this post, only because the headline led me to believe that George Tsoukalos, Erich von Daniken and maybe even David Childress had been brought in to testify before the House Science Committee as experts. But, since the Ancient Astronaut regulars did not testify, I was neither as outraged or amused by what really happened as I had hoped. Nobody's fault, I'm just saying.
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.
5/24/2014 03:17:38 pm
twas classic comedy relief for these current hearings.
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.
5/24/2014 05:35:01 pm
If Moses is much closer to either Tut or Seti or Ramses,
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.
5/24/2014 05:41:23 pm
when you have Moses being born 1300 years after Imhotep
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.
5/24/2014 05:44:20 pm
even more cautiously,,, if Moses's birth is 1,300 years
.
5/24/2014 05:46:12 pm
Biblical Archaeology can go
Titus pullo
5/25/2014 10:24:25 am
The Drake equation is a well thought algorithm but the probabilities are pretty much unknown for all the factors. As dr. Fermi said, where is everyone? I disagree that the probability for life outside earth is so high. I respect these scientists but this is their passion, they are not going to say they don't know less it reduce their grant money. Giver pen the siz of the universe and the laws of physics work the same it would seem reasonable life is not unique but until we find evidence, we really don't know. As for aliens versus climate change. If ear a random comet or asteroid strike much more than the amount of life giving co2 we release back into the atmosphere.
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devin
10/19/2014 01:00:36 pm
To land large craft on mars, we need a stable craft such as the Concorde jet with VTOL capabilities.
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Davis
5/13/2016 08:31:46 am
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