Congress Poised to Require Investigation of Ufology's Crash Retrieval Conspiracy

7/21/2022

This week, the House of Representatives introduced its own version of the legislation that will outline the government’s efforts to investigate UFOs. The House version raised eyebrows because it included language not found in preceding Senate version, namely a requirement that the government report on crash retrievals and efforts to hide UFO parts from ufologists by stashing them with defense contractors. The language is quite bizarre, demanding that the Comptroller General

compile and itemize a complete historical record of the intelligence community’s involvement with unidentified aerospace-undersea phenomena, including successful or unsuccessful efforts to identify and track unidentified aerospace-undersea phenomena, efforts to recover or transfer related technologies to United States-based industry or National Laboratories, and any intelligence community efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide unclassified or classified misinformation about unidentified aerospace-undersea phenomena or related activities, based on the review 20 conducted under paragraph (1).

That this paragraph is a very close approximation of the UFO Twitter grievance list as defined by the interknit group of UFO enthusiasts orbiting Robert Bigelow and Skinwalker Ranch. These are the claims that Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon promoted (Mellon notably did so in endorsing Jacques Vallée’s ridiculous claim that the Army recovered an occupied, avocado-shaped spaceship in 1945), and helped convince Harry Reid to investigate, thus entering them into the New York Times and the New Yorker.

Given that Elizondo recently bragged about him and Chris Mellon working with members of Congress to write this legislation, and the Senate version introduced Elizondo’s own pet grievances about wanting to sue the government for UFO “retaliation,” it seems impossible not to conclude that this is another instance where members of Congress are working with proven liars to create special-interest, paranoid legislation reflecting ufological conspiracy theories and fantasies more than real life.

8 Comments

Peter B

7/21/2022 08:22:12 pm

Right—or at least most probably—again.

I'd take mild exception to the notion that "members of Congress are working with proven liars..." Seems more likely to an innocent observer that they're being manipulated by the fibbers-with-an-agenda, which seems to be not much more substantial than self-promotion. This seems to have been the trend of ufological grandes fromages since about 1980.

Rock Knocker

7/22/2022 08:15:52 pm

To be elected to National office today you need to demonstrate that you display wokeness and the willingness to stand against Boomer mentality. The ability to use critical thinking is not a deciding factor, identity politics is. Obviously the status quo is wrong, millennial thinking (?) is correct. Woe to our future….

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Nerd11135

7/25/2022 07:26:50 pm

Sure.

As to age, according to the Library of Congress (https://guides.loc.gov/117th-congress-book-list), "[t]he average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 117th Congress was 58.4 years; of Senators, 64.3 years." Also plenty of Right/Fringe types are pretty old.

As to "identity politics," that's something you folks usually say when you see a politician that is not White. From the same Library of Congress page as before:

"The 117th Congress convened on January 3, 2021. It is currently the most diverse Congress in history, including:

59 African Americans
54 Hispanic and Latinos
23 Asian Americans
6 Native Americans (4 Native Americans were re-elected and 2 newly elected)
148 Members are women"

Sounds pretty overwhelmingly White to me, remember that there are 100 Senators and 435 voting Members of the House. The "most diverse Congress in history" is still pretty White. Maybe by "identity politics" you mean White Nationalism? Or maybe you mean to refer to the old ethnic politics wherein different sorts of White people battled for political influence in big cities (Italian vs Irish vs Polish and so forth). That still happens a good bit today.

As to wokeness, well, not much "woke" has actually happened. (Also, do you really have to be "woke" to understand reality and be a Liberal? I don't really know what "woke" means. But most of you folks use "woke" to mean "Liberal" so that's what I'm assuming you mean here.) Also how "woke" do you Representatives Gaetz and Greene and Senator Cruz to be? They're in the news a lot and, sadly, much beloved by their constituents despite their holding Fringe viewpoints and caring little for their constituents' welfare.

Finally as I've demonstrated many times before there's actually a special relationship between the Fringe and the Right such that the Fringe is mainstream among the Right (QAnon, White Nationalism, that Trump won 2020, and so forth). The Fringe among the Left is recognized for what it is and, sadly, many ideas that aren't all that bad and should be mainstream are lumped in with that label inappropriately!

-An Anonymous Nerd

Jim

7/30/2022 05:41:56 pm

"Sounds pretty overwhelmingly White to me, remember that there are 100 Senators and 435 voting Members of the House. The "most diverse Congress in history" is still pretty White."

US Pop. (by race) By Representation (your #s)

White -- 75.8% 73.46% (535 Reps.- Black, Asian and Native)
Black -- 13.6% 11%
Asian --- 6.1% 10.1%
Native -- 1.3% 1.1%

An Anonymous Nerd / Nerd11135

8/3/2022 12:06:44 pm

Response is to "Jim."

I thought about that too, especially as regards to the Black population. I went with it though because a reasonable person would see that what I wrote was a response to the what was said in the post to which I was responding.

[[To be elected to National office today you need to demonstrate that you display wokeness and the willingness to stand against Boomer mentality. The ability to use critical thinking is not a deciding factor, identity politics is. Obviously the status quo is wrong, millennial thinking (?) is correct. Woe to our future….]]

Based on that it seemed like the original poster (you?) would expect to see far higher levels of minority representation in Congress than there actually were. Hence my use of the Library of Congress's numbers (not mine, as you say for some reason, but the Library of Congress's).

Also, and I was hoping to not have to go this deep into the weeds, I don't know if the Library of Congress was considering Hispanic to be mutually exclusive with the racial categories or if it treats it as a separate question like the Census does, which might or might not change the analysis considerably. Given that the point I was making kind of by definition has to be seen in light of the post I was responding to, there was no reason to check the Library's numbers in that degree of detail.

As to the Hispanic population, 54 out of 535 is around 10%, but the Census says 18.7%. *shrugs*

Not to mention the rest of my reply.

So, all told, no "Jim," just no. And it's really best if you don't try again.

-An Anonymous Nerd

8/3/2022 04:37:36 pm

First off I am Jim not Rock Knocker, you have been here long enough to know we are different people.

"So, all told, no "Jim," just no"

No to what ?,,,, I made no statement ,only posted numbers,, so, no to what ?

" And it's really best if you don't try again."

Best for who ?
I will post when I please, thank you very much !

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/01/28/racial-ethnic-diversity-increases-yet-again-with-the-117th-congress/

My point, in case you can't fathom it, is that your Congress is indeed very evenly represented by race across the board, old white men are not overly represented !

This statement by you I find misleading, making it sound like the white race is overly represented,,, It 's not, at least not to any noticeable degree. Overwhelmingly white,, or perhaps fairly represented ?

Nerd: "Sounds pretty overwhelmingly White to me, remember that there are 100 Senators and 435 voting Members of the House. The "most diverse Congress in history" is still pretty White."

Clete

7/23/2022 05:44:52 pm

I always considered congress to be one step below a no-show job like shown in "The Sopranos".

Charles verrastro link

7/24/2022 10:54:31 am

Struck by the comparison you made in your notification of your last postings wherein you cited the Bohemian Court elevating conmen like Edward Kelly to Knighthood (and subsequently imprisoning.him upon exposure).
Congress has become the new court of the Holy Roman Empire with it's own Street of Gold financing and protecting the Puffers and Gold makers of the UFO lobby.

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