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Congressional UFO Hearing Goes Badly for Ufologists

5/17/2022

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​The United States Congress held the first hearing on UFOs since the 1960s, and it went about as well as those of us in the reality-based community could have hoped. In the hearing, called in a subcommittee of the House Intelligence Committee by Rep. André Carson (D-Ind.), who recently admitted to getting his UFO ideas from cable TV and media articles, naval intelligence officer Scott Bray and Defense Department intelligence official Ronald Moultrie effectively made the case that the flap over UFOs is a tempest in a teapot driven by sensationalism. 
​Bray stated point-blank that there is no evidence for extraterrestrials, and we also heard that there is no crashed UFO wreckage in the government’s possession. The best videos the government has are not full HD glamour shots of imperial cruisers as major UFO figures claimed but fuzzy dots and grainy lights. Moultrie also stated that the unexplained UFO cases in videos like those were likely inexplicable only because the incidents did not generate enough data to draw a conclusion, no because the objects were inexplicable, supernatural, or extraterrestrial.
 
It really made Lue Elizondo, who was not present and stayed silent on social media, look like a fool for making so many wild claims that were so quickly dismissed.
 
Carson, clearly a believer, name-checked UFO huckster Jeremy Corbell and appeared to praise the leak of UFO videos, a very strange position for an intelligence committee member charged with safeguarding national security to take. Bray and Moultrie made mincemeat of Corbell’s leaked “pyramid UFO” video, dismissing the “best” UFO video in history, as Corbell put it, as nothing more than bokeh, a camera effect acting on small drones. Ditto the “transmedium” UFO, which was a drone that fell out of the sky.
 
Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.) acquitted himself especially poorly, spinning UFO conspiracy theories drawn directly from UFO Twitter fever-dreams and moving to enter into the Congressional Record the so-called Wilson-Davis document—a write up of notes by UFO loon Eric Davis claiming Adm. Thomas Wilson of DIA confirmed the reverse-engineering of the crashed Roswell saucer. Wilson has denounced the document as a fraud, and even John Greenwald, who thinks it’s authentic, believes it’s more fan fiction by Davis than a chronicle of real events.
 
At the end of the hearing, Ronald Moultrie discussed the problem of misinformation in response to a question by Rep. Darin LaHood (R-Iowa), who asked about “amateur interest groups”—obviously referencing To the Stars Academy, the various lobbying efforts its former members spun off from it, and the many UFO propagandists. 
LaHood: As we talk about, and I would say there’s a lot of what I would call amateur interest groups that are involved in the UAP field, my question is when there are unsubstantiated claims or manufactured claims of UAPs or kind of false information that’s put out there, what are the consequences for people that are involved with that or groups that are involved with that?
 
Moultrie: So one of the concerns that we have is that there are a lot of individuals and groups that are putting information out there that could be considered to be somewhat self-serving. We’re trying to do what’s in the best interest of one, the Department of Defense, and then two, what’s in the best interest of the public to ensure that we can put factual-based information back into the mainstream and back into the bloodstream of the reporting media that we have so people understand what’s there.
 
It’s important because we are attempting as this hearing as has drawn out to understand one, what may just be natural phenomenon, two, what may be sensor phenomenology or things that were happening with sensors, three, what may be legitimate counterintelligence threats to places that we have or bases or installations, or security threats to our platforms. And anything that diverts us off of what we have with the resources that have been allocated to us, send us off in these spurious chases and hunts that are just not helpful. And they also help, well, they also contribute to the undermining of the confidence that the Congress and the American people have that we are trying to get to the root cause of what’s happening here and report on that, and then feed that back into our national security apparatus so we are able to protect the American people and our allies. So it is harmful. It is hurtful, but hopefully, if we get more information out there, we’ll start to lessen the impact of some of those spurious reports.
​Then, just because it’s government, they talked about how to use the law to crack down on First Amendment rights to stop misinformation and hold “interest groups” responsible for their lies.
 
However you cut it, it was a bad showing for ufology, but it did show that I was right to get information about the “amateur interest groups” into The New Republic where official Washington could see it. During the hearing, the managing editor of C-SPAN tweeted out a link to my first New Republic UFO piece, and I’d like to think my work offered at least a little push in the right direction.
15 Comments
Paul
5/18/2022 07:37:49 pm

Why all the bother? Just have ol’ Scottie Idiotous Wolter line up a few hundred of the 2 1/2 million space aliens milling around the great U S of A. Interview them on national tv. Could not be much worse than his a****** unearthed series - or could it? Just an opinion, of course.

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Jim
5/21/2022 05:09:28 pm

I'm no rock scientist, but shouldn't Congress be investigating how much baby formula all the voracious alien babies are consuming ?

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2016/jul/30/clinton-baby-grows-up-to-be-foundation-/

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Bezalel
5/18/2022 10:52:35 pm

After all the hype over more than a decade: No evidence yet for extraterrestrials...
No surprise

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Graham
5/20/2022 02:38:35 am

There is an interesting article on 'The Saucers That Time Forgot' blog that gets into your last point on why UFO hoaxers tend not to get prosecuted.

Interestingly it ends by quoting a 1950s government UFO investigator that they policy in question left the field open to the cranks who could say whatever they wanted without consquence.

https://thesaucersthattimeforgot.blogspot.com/2022/05/ufos-crimes-and-punishment.html

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Templarscribe link
5/24/2022 07:48:14 pm

Thanks for the link, Graham.

There is an interesting comment in one of the FOIA docs in that linked article:

"This subject is being studied by AFOIN-X1 and further development will be brought to your attention."

The only hit I can find for AFOIN-X1 is an AFOIN Top Secret document (now on the released website of the CIA) from 20 July 1951, with a brief but redacted paragraph on how the AF was improving its intelligence gathering abilities. Next to the redacted paragraph was a typewritten notation, "25X1 USAF."

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80R01731R003500140002-1.pdf

The same "25X1" notation is made on the third page, beside further redacted sections of names and signatures on the disbursement sheet.

There are two departments listed as "C/NE" and "IC/ONE," but even the name of the third department is wholly redacted. Makes me wonder what that department was, and why after 71 years this office still needs to be kept secret.

Regarding the Congressional hearings, the Pentagon would never share in the open secrets it's been willing to lie about for over seventy years. Nor would it be willing to reveal any programs designed to make our adversaries believe we've back engineered alien technology. As long as they can maintain that ruse, they believe they're justified in muddying the waters on any kind of UFO/UAP research, even if t means lying under oath.

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David White
5/24/2022 08:20:49 pm

In digging deeper, there are additional references to AFOIN-X1 and X1A, some of them available in the 1947-1969 Project Blue Book image archives, available online here:

https://www.fold3.com/image/11884051

I wonder if the Col. Charles Hurley mentioned here and elsewhere as the CO (in some manner) of AFOIN-X1 is the name redacted on the previously mentioned Top Secret release? Though these docs are a good six years later than the 1951 document mentioned in Graham's linked article above, and changes in command most likely occurred in the intervening years.

These docs raise further questions: if AFOSI-X1 is mentioned so freely in these later documents, then why are they redacted in the earlier 1951 documents?

And it shows that the Pentagon is still not willing to come clean not just on what's in our skies today, but how they observed, recorded and studied such events, as well as the US citizens who were equally as interested.

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Kent
5/25/2022 01:23:08 pm

I'm suspicious of the position (NOT attributing it to you) that more laws are the answer to an unknown question, The Miss Grundifying of the legal system. Should it be illegal for me to claiim that I have used Venusian technology to reanimate Pablo Picasso's corpse and rented it out to Mark Kostabi's factory? Not a bill most legislators would care to sponsor.

As Elaine Benes said in another context "Fake! Fake! Fake!
Fake!"

Gulf Breeze sightings? Fake. One-armed Tommy in Switzerland? Fake. Von Daniken? Sure, an embezzler but his UFO "work"? Not illegal, Phoenix Lights? HAHO parachutists flying flat chutes in formation with boot flares. Travis Walton? Fake. Barney and Betty Hill? Delusional. Bob Lazar and Element 115? Idiot.

As for reverse engineering, the first paper on Stealth technology was published in a Russian journal during the Cold War,. Even the SR-71 used 1930s technology, and remember that Robert Goddard helped the Nazis with their rockets.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
5/22/2022 11:10:31 am

Not sure giving oxygen to a fire is bad for the fire.

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Kal
5/24/2022 07:47:56 pm

Yeah, how come all the UFO footage is always grainy blurs, wile cellphone cameras and other video equipment gets so much better? You'd think if there was an alien craft, it would be captured high def landing? Ha.

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Clete
5/26/2022 09:09:51 am

I wonder how it is that aliens have the ability to travel millions of light years to reach Earth but seem to be unable to not be by seen by radar. Also why do they have pilots who seem to lack the skills needed to not crash once they reach Earth. I guess the pilots chosen to fly to earth finished last in flight school.

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Templarscribe
5/26/2022 03:59:00 pm

We have modern craft that can avoid being seen on radar, when they wish. Why shouldn't visitors to our planet have the same or infinitely better technology?

As for the crashes, they're operating against hostile (our) air defenses ((including high-powered radar and microwave energy), not to mention an atmosphere with events like lightning that they may not be proof against. Either of these could interfere with their flight controls and cause an accident.

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Kent
6/4/2022 05:33:50 pm

Oh my effing God, do you hear yourself?

Mark
6/20/2022 09:16:34 am

They have interstellar travel but can't deal with lightning or a radar beam? Does that really seem likely to you?

Bob Jase
5/26/2022 06:02:05 pm

UFOnauts trained at the Dole Air Race Academy.

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An Anonymous Nerd
5/26/2022 03:42:15 pm

In a rational world "going badly" would matter. This is not a rational world.
-An Anonymous Nerd

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