Today I’d like to take a little break from U.S.-centric alternative history to look at an ongoing debate in the alternative history of New Zealand. The material I’m going to discuss comes to me from Matthew Dentith, a New Zealander with a Ph.D. in the epistemology of conspiracy theories (how cool is that?), who runs a blog where he has carefully examined conspiracy theories about New Zealand, including a twelve part series on the allegation that the New Zealand government and sundry other dark forces are conspiring to hide the hidden ancient “white” history of New Zealand in order to turn the country over to the Māori. Unfortunately, since so much of the media in America is U.S.-centric, we don’t often hear about the fringe ideas of other countries, so I thought I’d highlight the weird ideas about New Zealand that Dentith has done so much to examine and expose. I’ve previously discussed some of the claims of alternative theorist Barry Fell that the archipelago was first discovered and settled by Greco-Egyptian colonists who gave rise to the Māori, but as it happens there are so many more ways to suggest that white European were the first colonizers of the islands, including the popular “Celtic New Zealand” hypothesis whereby Martin Doutré, a supporter of Holocaust-denial historian David Irving against a “Zionist” conspiracy and a questioner of the “real forces” behind the September 11, 2001 attacks, argued that stone circles in New Zealand (many actually natural formations) were (a) observatories, (b) thousands of years old, and (c) so sophisticated that only white people from ancient Europe could have devised them. There is an entire conspiracy theory in which Doutré and others argue that the Māori and elements of the New Zealand government are conspiring to privilege the Māori over white New Zealanders, return the country to Māori rule, and deny whites their true history as the real New Zealand natives. John Ansell, another conspiracy theorist and a supporter of Doutré, calls this “Treatygate” for rather boring reasons you can read about on his website. (Essentially, like Scott Wolter with the Templar-Sinclair “land claim,” he thinks that proving a white presence in ancient times can legally undo history and abrogate treaties, laws, etc.) The upshot is that he believes the government and historians are conspiring to create an anti-white alternative history for New Zealand. This is very similar to the implied America Unearthed idea that the U.S. government and academic historians are conspiring with secret elites to deny white Americans their true history and position as legitimate and eternal rulers of America. By the way, for those of you who enjoy America Unearthed and its silly claim that Mystery Hill in New Hampshire is “aligned” to Stonehenge, Doutré claims that the so-called Waitapu Observatory in New Zealand (a field of stones Doutré sees as a megalithic observatory but which appears to be a collection of natural and possibly Māori features; older surveys claimed a natural origin) is “mathematically linked” to Stonehenge as well! Somehow I doubt that H2 would be interested in a show called New Zealand Unearthed. Doutré shares a lot in common with our Sinclair-Holy Bloodline speculators. Doutré, for example, titled his book Ancient Celtic New Zealand and then promptly became outraged when mainstream researchers described his idea as the “Celtic New Zealand” hypothesis: This whole off-centre focus on “Celtic” is a typical Marxist distraction or red-herring to draw focus away from what is so copiously stated in our history books (recorded oral traditions) and, instead, get people looking sideways at “obviously demented” individuals like Martin Doutré with his “crack-pot” theories about actual “Celts” roaming around New Zealand. Remember, his book was called Ancient Celtic New Zealand and was about how the “monuments” of New Zealand were part and parcel of Celtic European culture. (Technically, he believes that “proto-Celts” or “pre-Celts” came to New Zealand prior to 1000 BCE, but somehow the Celtic shorthand is OK for him but not for his critics.) How many times have we heard from an alternative historian here in America (or Europe) that it is insulting to them to be accused of believing what they themselves had explicitly written? Doutré’s evidence is straight out of the Victorian-era colonialist playbook: The native peoples of New Zealand have nebulous myths and legends about a lost white race, just like Native American tribes talked of a white master race! (He is, of course, referencing the falsified and fabricated American Mound Builder myth material from the 1700s and 1800s.) He also cites “white” mummies from Peru and accuses anthropologists of hiding their Caucasian origin. (They’re not Caucasian.) Similarly, he feels that biologists are hiding the fact that a New Zealand bird, the Pukeko, can be found in the Mediterranean. (It can’t—a similar looking Mediterranean bird is genetically different.) When challenged, he asserts a conspiracy and demands: How do white people like me get access to our true history and do research concerning our world-traveling cousins without incurring the scathing wrath of people like you? Boy, that sounds familiar. He also goes on about how Māori gods are “identical” to Indo-European gods (they’re not, except in the most general way shared by all pantheons worldwide) and how New Zealand rocks have … wait for it … Ogham writing! Ah, Barry Fell, will your work never fade away? Now, since Ogham only came about in the early centuries CE, that would mean that the writers were Celts, but Doutré is insulted that there is any implication of actual Celts in his work… I can’t even fathom the logic.
Doutré and Ansell, like America’s alternative historians, have a problem with historical research and writing done after the end of the imperial era. They see the Victorians as objective recorders of truth, particularly as it applies to white predominance, and see later work as politically correct propaganda. They are unable to understand how the social values of earlier eras affected that work, nor how their own social and political values inform their own work. Anyway, Ansell recently claimed that the United Nations is involved in suppressing the truth about white colonization of the Pacific in order to promote the economic interests of “brown” people: “The UN know Māori and others aren’t indigenous, so they simply change the meaning of the word to: ‘The good brown people who got to the country (a bit) before the bad white people.’” He claims that the Māori have benefited from “skipping” three thousand years of evolution as a result of white people. In the United States Native Americans are now such a vanishingly small part of the population (0.9% of the population, according to the 2010 Census, with an additional 0.8% identifying as having some Native ancestry) that attempts to rewrite American history to add an ancient white civilization don’t read to many Americans as explicitly racial claims and therefore do not need to use explicitly racial language. (Similar claims did use just such language, however, back in the 1700s and 1800s when Native Americans were still a powerful oppositional force to white American society.) By contrast, in New Zealand the Māori make up 15% of the population, and the discussion among the alternative fringe is explicitly racial, with the claims of “white” and “brown” people seen as being in irreconcilable, zero-sum opposition, reflecting perceived racial tension in New Zealand society. The New Zealand version of the “ancient white ancestors” claim is not different in its essentials from the Sinclair-Holy Bloodline / Mormon pre-Native white Jews / lost white race of Mound Builders / prehistoric European colonizer mythology of America, and the rather blunt use of racial claims by Ansell and others makes explicit the implicit racial underpinnings of so many of the alternative histories proposed for the United States, as well as the modern political and social tensions that such claims reflect and are meant to mitigate.
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Joseph Craven
5/11/2013 11:53:52 am
This touches on something I don't understand about diffusionism. Namely, suppose it's true, and there's a common white ancestor race. Why is this supposed to give anybody primacy over anybody else? I mean, I understand why the excuse was used successfully in the past (one side had guns, germs, and steel and the other didn't, thus they made the rules) but why do people think it would even fly nowadays? I can't just walk into my second cousin's house and declare it my own just because we share a common ancestor somewhere.
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Christopher Randolph
5/11/2013 07:25:21 pm
As I find the hypotheses themselves to be too stupid on the surface to merot serious consideration, you're asking exactly a question I'd like answered.
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Alex Bantov
5/12/2013 10:19:52 am
Wholeheartedly agree!
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5/11/2013 01:45:55 pm
Hi, Jason.
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5/11/2013 02:01:35 pm
You're very welcome. There's a sort of boring sameness to fringe archaeology theories after a while; they all sort of boil down to one group trying to rewrite the past to promote its own interests in the present. What's especially odd is when you realize that even wildly opposed alternative theories (say, Afrocentrism and lost white race theories) share the exact same "evidence" and arguments, almost always derived from 18th and 19th century sources.
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5/11/2013 02:07:42 pm
An interesting character to look into (with respect to my part of the world) is Elston Best, who for a long time was taken to be an excellent example of an early ethnographer and who wrote extensively on Māori culture, but is now considered to be a highly problematic figure by contemporary anthropologists because Best often went looking for evidence to support his theories and wasn't afraid to contradict his sources if their evidence didn't support his own views. Best is loved by the fringe historians here and they consider the repudiation of his views by contemporary academics here to be just more evidence of the large-scale conspiracy out to quash dissent.
Bob M
5/12/2013 10:53:39 am
I wonder if John Ansell is any relation to that idiot Colin King Ansell? The sort of famous for being famous Nazi.
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5/11/2013 02:10:56 pm
I hate to say it, Geoff, but I think we might punch above our weight when it comes to conspiracy theories. Aotearoa me Te Wai Pounamu (New Zealand) is rife with 9/11 Truth theories and Richard Gage, a prominent Truther, gave his biggest ever attended talks here at our national museum a few years back (about 450 attended). David Icke managed to sell out a venue a few years back as well.
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Tara Jordan
5/11/2013 07:55:02 pm
Charity begins at home. "The same kind of crackpots you find" exposing their lunacy & intellectual dishonesty on http://theology.geek.nz/
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Matthew - well we do love a conspiracy over here...
titus pullo
5/14/2013 02:31:18 am
Tara,
Tara Jordan
5/16/2013 07:31:01 am
Titus Pullo.
Tara Jordan
5/11/2013 08:50:38 pm
I am aware Raymond Ibrahim is not a contributor,but why are you promoting his distorted interpretations? .Despite having some academic training,Ibrahim is an ideologue & a political activist. His assocation with the neo conservative circus clowns & post Huntingtonian "thinkers" speaks for itself.
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Its a syndicated page, it doesnt promote anything - just collects posts from various people (all whom are well qualified in the areas they post in).
Tara Jordan
5/11/2013 09:58:28 pm
Geoff.Absolutely not.You run a site & you`re untitled to post whatever you want (I`m an advocate for total freedom of expression),but I feel you have the responsibility to educate your readers about the particular ideological & political mind-frame of authors you decide to publish.
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To be honest, I dont care that much. The idea is to make people think, and engage in discussion with the authors, whom all are experts in their fields and more than capable of defending their views (unlike the people Jason critiques here. If you disagree, take it up with the author.
Tara Jordan
5/12/2013 01:20:39 am
"To be honest, I don't care that much". Lol, at least you`re quite honest about your "editorial integrity" & intellectual standard.
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5/11/2013 04:04:23 pm
I may have told this story before,
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Christopher Randolph
5/11/2013 07:31:11 pm
Interesting post to me at a number of levels.
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Tara Jordan
5/11/2013 08:03:50 pm
I disagree,Serbian nationalists (like any other nationalists have a tendency to exaggerate & extrapolate) but they do have legitimate claims,especially regarding Kosovo.I recommend you to read Paul Garde`s books (the French academic specialized in Balkans studies,from a pro Croatian & pro Bosnian perspective, & the collective refutation: "De l'imprécision à la falsification - Analyses de "Vie et mort de la Yougoslavie" de Paul Garde" from Nikola Samardzic, Anne Yelen, Pierre Maurer & Slobodan Despot.
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Christopher Randolph
5/12/2013 04:34:19 am
Tara -
titus pullo
5/14/2013 02:27:48 am
Tara, 5/14/2013 02:35:00 am
Serbia had struggled to free itself from the Ottoman Empire, and they did so through nationalism; part of that was directed back against the Austro-Hungarian Empire because nationalism demanded that all ethnic Serbs be united under one crown. In terms of practicality, the small landlocked nation wanted access to the wealthier Austrian lands and ports on the Adriatic. The Austrians, for their part, saw Serbia as an enemy because their nationalism riled up peoples within the empire, upsetting the delicate Compromise of 1867 (as did the related annexation of Bosnia in 1908) and threatening internal revolts by subject peoples clamoring for their own nation-states.
Christopher Randolph
5/14/2013 03:27:41 am
Fortunately most people are very open-minded most of the time, but once any shooting starts fear and tribalism take over at least temporarily.
Christopher Randolph
5/14/2013 03:50:22 am
Oh yes - and I forgot to mention alcohol. People are heavy drinkers and I imagine much of the horror of the '90s happened when people were ripped on rakija.
Tara Jordan
5/12/2013 10:31:12 am
John. I`d love to hear more about your experiences in the region. As you may know,I did a Master in political science & history,actually doing interdisciplinary studies (ethno-anthropology).Your personal account is exactly what I am looking for. Would you consider posting something on "Archy"?. Thanks.
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5/12/2013 02:26:34 pm
I'd love to. It might take a little while but I'll let you know when I get something up.
Christopher Randolph
5/11/2013 07:21:33 pm
It's hard to keep track, but Barry Fell IIRC was claiming at one point that Egyptians landed in New Zealand first. Uh-oh - what's a diffusionist to do?
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Hi, I'm just in the process of reading Stéphen Chauvet's "L'île de Pâques et ses mystères" (Easter Island and its mysteries) from 1935: http://www.chauvet-translation.com/index.htm. Stéphen Chauvet was trying to argue, on the basis of some hair analyses and so-called cultural connections, that the Pascuans were apparented to New-Zealand Maoris; and, using Guillaume de Hevesy's ideas about rongorongo, that both were descendants of people from Mohenjo Daro and Harappa, or rather from a vast region that "extended from the Indus in the East to the Tigris and Euphrates in the West"...
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titus pullo
5/14/2013 02:20:40 am
I can't help but think of almost 100 years ago when Wilson after WWI came up with the tag line about "self determination"...every power broker in Eastern Europe showed up at the "peace conference" with all sorts of "facts" that showed they deserved their own country and resource rich land....in fact the English and French and Wilson did such a good job at dividing Europe up..their peace was the key to the next war. The ethno nationalism is about the worst tendency of the human race. This "my people were there 2000 years ago so we deserve the land today" is irrational. Over thousands of years, people move, societies change, languages change, immigration, invasion and so on make the whole idea of "we deserve this land" to be laughable. People have the right to exist..but historical nations? Sounds like this guy in NZ just doesn't like how the tides are changing...but they always change in human history...as for the debate on this blog about US intervention in the middle east..I agree...the founding fathers had a much better view of foreign policy...not to go abroad to find monsters to slay...and to engage in commerce and friendship with all..and no entangling alliances...
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5/14/2013 04:49:11 pm
Wilson is hardly to blame for nationalism at the peace conferences. While he was still trying to keep the US out of the war, the Allies were making promises to the Italians, the Serbs, the Arabs, the Zionists, the Greeks, the Bulgarians, and the Romanians. It didn't matter that various "Great" ideals overlapped; winning the war was all that mattered. It would all be sorted out after the victory. When Bulgaria joined the Central Powers, it made it much easier to make even bigger promises to the other Balkan states. They promised Italy "influence" in Southwestern Anatolia (Turkey). The Italians took this to mean annexation.
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Titus pullo
5/19/2013 01:36:25 pm
John,
MAORI-by-NATURE
1/24/2014 03:23:00 am
Kia Ora Koutou.. My ansestor's Te Maori have always been the kaitiake of Aotearoa. Guardian's of New Zealand.. if you read the treaty of new zealand you will see Maori always have had 50/50 ownership of this land since the crown came here and asked for help in the 2nd world war.. think about this people if my tipuna elders were savages like some European history states in the past cpt COOK would never of made it off this land from the start, and his crew would of been put in the hangi.. my people are a very strong proud line of chiefs warriors an tohonga also a very loving caring people too that don't have a problem with sharing alongside any race of people but there is a line of respect that go's with that understanding.. as for Martin Doutre his claim to fame is misunderstood about the ancient history of my elders and the Turehu and yes the Maori do carry that ancient DNA.. the only thing i do agree with is there is a conspiracy of covering up truth going on in Aotearoa an some papers i have read say they will not inform the public till the year 2065.. our people are apart of the te moananui whanau the family of the pacific, from Rapanui (easter island) Hawaii Aotearoa (New Zealand) ect and just like our other NATIVE family the Inca, Aztec ect there are ancient story's that have been passed down from grandfather to son for 1000's of years that speak of what the Maori call TUREHU.. i believe from what has been pass down to me and what i understand its to do with is the sun, moon, star gates, pyramids, star's symbols, carvings and yes our star family if you were not aware of pyramids in New Zealand look up KAIMANAWA and not even many kiwi's of new zealand know of kaimanawa. Aotearoa is the first place to see the sun the pyramids are placed all over the globe for a reason ask yourself why people and find the truth.. As for Mr john Ansell.. he ant worth talking about, anyway people thats my 10 cents added into this convo lol.. Tena koutou katoa.. KO TAKU RAUKURA, HE MANAWANUI KE TE AO.!!
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