Corey Goode Claims Trump Knows Roswell Was Really Future U.S. Time Travelers

7/21/2020

As most of you know, I am currently working on assembling some materials for a book proposal about the various moral panics that flared up in 1947 and burned through the 1950s. As part of that research, I am invariably forced to deal with the so-called Roswell crash, even though the incident was of no particular importance in 1947, except as an illustration of how the flare-up in anti-communist panic in the preceding weeks led military officials to use that summer’s UFO flap as cover for operations aimed at the Soviet Union. I was, however, amused to read this week that Michael Salla and Corey Goode are flogging a new claim, that Donald Trump has been briefed on the Roswell crash and that the flying disc that the military claimed to capture was in fact a time-traveling military vehicle from the future.

The warrant for their claim comes from a recent interview between Trump and his son, Don, Jr., in which Trump pandered to the large contingent of right-wing UFO nuts by suggesting that he knew “interesting” things about Roswell.

In an article published on ExoNews, Salla quotes Goode to this effect:

I have mentioned this in the past. It was brought up again recently after Trump commented on Roswell. POTUS ‘Roswell Briefings’ are basically this: Roswell was NOT an Alien event. It was a mishap from US in the future. POTUS is told that the MAJORITY of the lights seen in the sky are from our own craft operating in the future and creating a temporal butterfly effect. They are told that what the ancients saw in the sky was often the exact same phenomenon….

POTUS is under the impression that because of tests being run in Roswell during the same time that future craft were operating in that Space at a later time… that it caused the craft to pull into the past and crash thus beginning the new tech boom after WWII.

Goode went on to connect his claim to the pro-Trump Q-Anon conspiracy theory and to argue that Trump is an agent of disclosure, and that he is helping to fight a Doctor Who-style time war between humans from two competing timelines. Goode argues that Trump’s uncle John examined Nikola Tesla’s secret papers about space aliens in 1943 and shared the results with the future president, thus imbuing him with secret knowledge that forever marked him among humanity’s elect.

It amazes me how badly right-wingers want Trump to be a demigod, or somehow touched by the divine.

Nevertheless, Salla doesn’t like Goode’s ideas and suspects that the story of time-travelers is simply cover meant to hide the truth about space aliens. “The explanation that Roswell involved time traveling future humans who arranged for the crash to occur to speed up our technological development certainly sounds plausible, and will appeal to those wielding Occam’s Razor to dismiss the extraterrestrial hypothesis,” he says. In what world is time traveling super-soldiers the most probable explanation for a balloon crashing in the desert?

25 Comments

Ken

7/21/2020 09:24:35 am

Wouldn't it be easier for future scientists to send back a textbook to advance technology instead of crashing a flying saucer? And since that would presumably speed up their own technical advancement they could keep doing it until we knew everything there was to know.

Better yet, send back a future history showing Trump to be the smartest, best president ever who saved mankind.

Brian

7/21/2020 10:06:00 am

You bring up an interesting point: what is this need on the far right to see Trump, of all people, as divine? The cynical use of a major sinner like Trump by the Evangelicals to push through their anti-human, pro-death agenda is one thing, but why would anyone so powerfully want to see an obese, spray-tanned, badly dressed, cognitively impaired, inarticulate, sputtering, whining man-baby as divinely inspired that they would tell themselves he's some sort of Harry Potter/Star Wars/Terminator hero? Future sociologists and psychologists are going to be monopolized by this subject. He's like a black hole, sucking all attention into its gaping nullity.

Oh dear, I myself seem to be granting him some super power!

Jim

7/21/2020 11:25:15 am

Joe is not going to like this.

Right now the US is like a a Monty Python skit gone terribly awry.

Kent

7/21/2020 07:46:02 pm

Yeah, I hear Mr. Scales enjoys good analogies and funny humor.

Joe Scales

7/23/2020 10:13:17 am

Both of which on this site are few and far between...

Professor hance

7/27/2020 11:25:43 pm

Joe kent is the master of the few and far between; and t'isnt being wrong.

Ralf Buelow

7/21/2020 11:45:16 am

The Tesla-Trump story is true, except for the fact that there were no space aliens and that everybody can read John Trump's report on the FBI's website, see https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2003%20of%2003/at_download/file - please go to PDF pages 37 - 44

David Evans

7/21/2020 02:56:30 pm

Interesting that they mention the butterfly effect. I thought it was common knowledge, at least since Ray Bradbury, that anything you do in the past risks altering your present in unpredictable ways. But maybe the future travelers are like Trump and just don't care.

7/21/2020 07:36:23 pm

I think you misunderstood Goode's misunderstanding. Goode said "lights seen in the sky are from our own craft operating in the future and creating a temporal butterfly effect." In other words future activity creating effects in the past which Good mistakenly calls "a temporal butterfly effect."

Since we don't have time travel, we don't know if going back in time and killing a butterfly would change "the future" or would be integral to the unfolding of the future as we have already experienced it.

Trump, if he was actually briefed, probably found the true story behind Roswell "interesting" because it would be new to him because he would never have looked into it.

CALEB SEARCHER

7/22/2020 12:06:07 am

Which would be a first for Trump, since as a malignant narcissist he isn't interested in anything except himself.

His utter lack of intellectual curiousity and toddler attention span don't bode well for your assumption either.

Nick Danger

7/22/2020 09:25:26 am

If future technology is based on technology from the future coming to the past, who invented it in the first place?

Donald Miller

7/22/2020 11:50:25 am

"Trump is an agent of disclosure, and that he is helping to fight a Doctor Who-style time war between humans from two competing timelines
If so we're doomed because Trump will screw up this as well.

Awesome Weed

7/22/2020 02:37:50 pm

Sounds like they're rehashing the John Titor hoax. Claimed WWIII would occur when the world finds out the United States has a time machine, and Russia nukes the west coast.

7/22/2020 10:00:10 pm

Those who don't already know about it might find fun in looking at the John Titor hoax. In a nutshell, he was sent back like a Terminator to find a working IBM 5100 computer that was needed for some nonsense in the future. It's great fun to read for those who enjoy that sort of thing.

Kal

7/23/2020 05:39:03 pm

Trump is just saying that to appease his base. He doesn't know what happened at Roswell, or care. It's not even a secret. Russian spy balloon. It crashed, The air corps retrieved it. Trump a babay when it happened. He still is, Ha.

7/23/2020 10:04:15 pm

Idiots insist on insisting that the RUSSIANS are behind everything, yet the same idiots vilify Joe McCarthy. I guess it comes down to whose ox is being gored.

Only an idiot would assert that the "Roswell" balloon was of Russian origin rather than Project Mogul.

I wonder if I could get government funding for an Idiot School. Fixing them or making them, I'm still not sure which would be more profitable. (Just kidding, making them would be more profitable.)

Charles Verrastro link

7/26/2020 03:07:01 pm

I remember reading many weird FBI files when they were first put on microfilm (I go way back). The mention of that particular report brought to mind some musings I had at the time reading it. First, a 'Tesla Set' (an interplanetary 'ET Radio') supposedly built after his death by his assistants that communicated information about Tesla possibly being an alien plant.
Interesting that it only appeared in an occultist's biography of Tesla, and the reason a previous authoritative biography by John O'Neill didn't mention any of this was that the author's "occult knowledge was limited." This according to a joint lecture by the ubiquitous UFO mavens George Van Tassel and Dan Fry.
The FBI file also has a short, curious note based on a supposed interview with Tesla on the anniversary of his 84th birthday which states "Tesla's only military invention (dating to 1934) was a method to which he once alluded but never fully described.This invention was an impenetrable "wall of force " that sounds exactly like Reagan's 'Star Wars' program.
But I also recalled a curious "prophecy" in correspondents' letter included in that newsletter about the UFO lectures of 1957.
"Now for some unpleasant news. This has been transmitted through... George King in London. We have to begin paying off our psychic karma in the form of disease, which cannot abate until we discontinue our nuclear experiments. However, to help all of us through the coming period of epidemics the Space People have placed four space stations in orbit around the earth. They will start magnetizing the earth at midnight on July 21. Through meditation we can absorb these healing rays. The Martians have clearly indicated they are "fed up" with our depravity on this planet; apparently even Space People can become impatient."
Clearly this has now been fulfilled, although about 63 years later than predicted. And, mirabile dictu, the Russians have co-operated with the Martians by creating and employing a space station ray device to their specifications, as recently reported. Clearly Trump is "in the loop" in trusting Putin's good intentions for mankind.

https://www.register-herald.com/region/russia-denies-us-uk-accusations-of-weapon-test-in-space/article_57dbdb28-7926-5c31-9db1-107bf7eb21a3.html

7/26/2020 04:36:32 pm

Reagan's Star Wars was not an impenetrable wall of force. It was a mix of ground-based and space-based rockets and lasers. It was always accepted that some attacking missiles would get through, the purpose was to make it impossible for the whole country or its retaliatory ability to be destroyed in one strike.

7/27/2020 03:34:14 pm

Read the entire quote. It was a supposedly four-part system meant to be based at various locations along our coasts. Tesla is said to have described part of the defense as a focused beam 0ne one-hundred-millionth of a centimeter in diameter (sounds like a laser or energy beam to me) being able to blast and melt Aircraft motors at a distance of 250 miles. Moreover the system itself seems to be the source of the idea he had created a "Death Ray". I won't argue the comparative minutiae as I simply don't believe the journalistic account is anything more than a compilation of previous rumors as to what Tesla was doing in his final years.
My position takes much the same approach many scholars of Western esotericism take in regard to the Rosicrucians. They may have been no more than a provocative fiction, but it may well have spurred on the "Invisible College" and the formation of the Royal Society of London, as well as the later speculative Freemasons and Bavarian Illuminati.
Whether or not the speculations about Tesla's lost inventions actually spurred the military to look into counter measures that employed other means of stopping ICBMs besides hitting them with other missiles is an issue for speculation.

7/27/2020 07:26:17 pm

Charles Verrastro: I can't read that link since I'm in the EU. I wasn't denying what Tesla might have done, only saying that Reagan's program didn't sound very like it. I have my doubts that Tesla would be able to create such an incredibly narrow beam, and also wonder how he proposed to aim it. But clearly I should find out more about him. Do you have any good references?

7/28/2020 02:08:34 pm

I didn't mean to start a thread on an entirely different tangent, but here's the verbatim sections from the relevant FBI files.
Tesla a Venusian plant:

Margaret Storm has been assigned to certain work with the Space People, as follows: She is writing a book – Return of the Dove — as a story of the life of Nikola Tesla, scientist, and the part his inventions will play in the New Age. Much of the data for his book has been supplied to Mrs. Storm through transcripts received on the Tesla set, a radio-type machine invented by Tesla in 1938 for Interplanetary Communication. Tesla died in 1943 and his engineers did not build the Tesla set until after his death. It was placed in operation in 1950 and since that time the Tesla engineers have been in close touch with the spaceships. The Space People have visited the Tesla engineers many times, and have told us that Tesla was a Venusian, brought to this planes as a baby, in 1856, and left with Mr. And Mrs. Tesla in a remote mountain province in what is now Yugoslavia.
Needless to say Storm's book is considered an occult fraud not much different than other works based on so-called communications with otherworldly entities channeled to the writer.
Tesla himself had descended into madness by his later years, and his claims became increasingly grandiose and untethered to actual experimentation. So even if the interviews or related conversations with him took place they have to be taken with more than a grain of salt.
I don't mean in any way "stolen Tesla inventions" formed a basis for the Star Wars program. Just that the possibility of such future technologies may have planted a seed much like Einstein's vaunted letter to the president started the Manhatten project.
In any case 'Star Wars' was never a fully worked out plan. Numerous declassified documents and former military and political figures testified that most of the proposals were unworkable and were mainly touted to the press in a disinformation campaign meant to tease the Soviets into either trying to match the expense of coming up with their own counter program or finding some other solution. As we know now the previous Space Race and Arms Race challenges had already exhausted their economy and political will and the Soviet Empire collapsed.

Tesla's Defense System (so-called "Death Ray". Actually more of a railgun.):

"It will be possible to destroy anything approaching within 200 miles. My invention will provide a wall of power," declares Tesla.
… It will make any country, large or small, impregnable against armies, airplanes, and other means for attack. My invention requires a large plant, but once it is established it will he possible tb destroy anything, men or machines, approaching within a radius of 200 miles. It will, so to speak, provide a wall of power offering an insuperable obstacle against any effective aggression.
If no country can be attacked successfully, there can be no purpose in war. My discovery ends the menace of airplanes or submarines, but it insures the supremacy of the battleship, because battleships may be provided with some of the required equipment. There might still be war at sea, but no warship could successfully attack the shore line, as the coast equipment will be superior to the armament of any battleship.
I want to state explicitly that this invention of mine does not contemplate the use of any so-called " death rays." Rays are not applicable because they cannot be produced in requisite quantities and diminish rapidly in intensity with distance. All the energy of New York City (approximately two million horsepower) transformed into rays and projected twenty miles, could not kill a human being, because, according to a well known law of physics, it would disperse to such an extent as to be ineffectual.
My apparatus projects particles which may.be relatively large or of microscopic dimensions, enabling us to convey to a small area at a great distance trillions of times more energy than is possible with rays of any kind. Many thousands of horsepower can thus be transmitted by a stream thinner than a hair, so that nothing can resist. This wonderful feature will make it possible, among other things, to achieve undreamed-of results in television, for there will be almost no limit to the intensity of illumination, the size of the picture, or distance of projection.

See Wikipedia for more technical description of Teleforce:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleforce

7/28/2020 04:03:53 pm

That's fascinating, but it leaves me with the definite impression that he hadn't fully worked out his ideas. "Particles which may.be relatively large or of microscopic dimensions" in a stream thinner than a hair? If they are relatively large how do they cope with air resistance and sidewinds? If they are microscopic, how is the beam prevented from spreading? He appeals to "gas focusing" which I don't think had been proved to work over miles of atmosphere. And (the cherry on the cake) he proposes to use these lethal beams to transmit television?

PS He clearly didn't foresee the laser: "All the energy of New York City (approximately two million horsepower) transformed into rays and projected twenty miles, could not kill a human being, because, according to a well known law of physics, it would disperse to such an extent as to be ineffectual."

Balloon Wall of Death

8/2/2020 07:22:09 pm

Tesla allegedly proposed using a network of balloons as low-flying satellites to transmit his power. Very similar to what was recently done in Puerto Rico to restore communications after the hurricane. I've read speculation that his network of balloons would be this "impregnable wall". It was claimed that anything flying close to this field would be zapped from the sky by an arc of electricity.

8/3/2020 02:40:38 am

Yet another thing I didn't know about Tesla. Thanks. Of course Tesla only had to deal with relatively slow and low-flying planes compared to Reagan's Star Wars, so it might even have worked.

Gayle

8/3/2020 09:10:33 am

Wasn't that an episode of Futurama.

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