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Countdown to "Sekret Machines: Gods": Peter Levenda Claims a New Approach to Ancient Aliens, While Jacques Vallée Attacks Knowledge Itself

2/27/2017

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​Next week ex-Blink-182-member Tom DeLonge and occult historian Peter Levenda release their book Sekret Machines: Gods, the first in a nonfiction trilogy focused on examining questions of alien encounters in human history. This first volume takes inspiration from twentieth century ancient astronaut books, going so far as to repeat specific material done first and better by Erich von Däniken half a century ago. For example, the book opens with Levenda offering a novelistic description of how Stone Age people would have understood the arrival of ancient astronauts, a close copy of von Däniken’s opening gambit in Chariots of the Gods imagining how the primitive residents of another planet might interpret human astronauts’ advanced technology. This is followed by yet another retelling of the story of the cargo cults of the Pacific, which we last encountered just last week in Erich von Däniken’s new book Astronaut Gods of the Maya, and which has appeared on Ancient Aliens and in Giorgio Tsoukalos’s preface to von Däniken’s Twilight of the Gods, but is best known from its appearance in the NBC-TV documentary (and the German original it dubbed) In Search of Ancient Astronauts, an adaptation of Chariots of the Gods. Originality is not Sekret Machines’ strong suit, but then it never was for von Däniken either; he borrowed the cargo cult claims from their inclusion in the movie version of his own book!
Here is the cargo cult on Ancient Aliens​:
And here it is in In Search of Ancient Astronauts, around the 3:30 mark:
​Levenda, though, wrongly claims to be different from von Däniken—“this is not an attempt at an ‘ancient aliens’ type of approach” he writes—because he alleges that human civilization is a cargo cult inspired by (but not directed by) space aliens. He hilariously terms the arrival of the aliens the ur-punkt moment, which sounds like a suitably Germanic, scholarly term—the new coinage translates as “the origin point”—until you read it with the eyes of Levenda, an old hand at playing it two ways. Read phonetically, it says “you’re punked,” like the old MTV prank show Punk’d, and surely there is a bit of a joke behind the whole Sekret Machines enterprise, which DeLonge, in leaked emails released by Wikileaks, confessed was meant to restore young adults’ faith in the American government. Can we really take Levenda at his word that he is either ignorant of previous ancient astronaut media or genuinely thinks the cargo cult approach is something new? It has almost literally been von Däniken’s shtick for decades, and it was literally broadcast to the entire country on NBC in 1973. More people heard the claim in 1973 than will ever read Sekret Machines.
 
This much I had already expected. Remember last week when libertarian politician Robert Burke blindsided me in an interview about UFOs? Well, he is a huge Peter Levenda fan, and he provided me with scanned pages from Levenda’s Sekret Machines notebooks, and they indicated fairly well what the final product would be. In a representative excerpt, Levenda said he needed to “compare von Dänniken (sic) w/ Velikovsky” and to use them to find “universals / constants between cultures.” However, I did not expect that in the acknowledgements Levenda would thank Micah Hanks among a dozen or so ufologists and fringe-types (Whitley Streiber, Jim Marrs, and Richard Dolan, for starteres) for providing him with inspiration and conversation. Not a single skeptic or even critic of ufology made his list.
 
I am especially disappointed with Levenda’s approach to ancient astronautics, the professed topic of this volume. It starts with Levenda saying that he assumed that alien contact really happened (“the understanding—not the belief, the understanding—that the UFO phenomenon is real”) and therefore proceeded to gather evidence with that in mind. You might recognize that as circular reasoning. Worse, as I pointed out years ago, it is a failure of imagination. Many possibilities exist besides aliens. From there he goes on to say that “This project is designed to inspire nothing less than a cultural revolution in human consciousness.” This will include “an overhaul of our religious, cultural, political, scientific, and military preconceptions,” he writes. What a coincidence that this is exactly what Levenda tried and failed to accomplish with his activism surrounding ritual magick, the occult, and conspiracy theories about Esoteric Hitlerism. Amazing how that tends to work.
 
Oh, and the book talks about Nephilim. Because of course it does.
 
However, this is not a review of Sekret Machines because I have not seen the complete book, only the opening chapters and a synopsis. I will withhold judgment therefore until I have been able to review the entire book. Instead, I’d like to discuss part of the book that I have been able to review in total, the preface by wealthy venture capitalist Jacques Vallée, a longtime investigator of UFOs and ancient astronauts. Regular readers will know that I think very little of Vallée despite his reputation as a profound thinker on UFOs. This is because his epistemology is flawed, his evidence is frequently fictitious or misunderstood, and he and his coauthor made use of some of my criticisms in his most recent book without so much as an acknowledgment of it. Worse, he learned virtually nothing from me. In this new foreword, Vallée continues to offer the stale Manichean thinking that tries to frame the so-called “UFO phenomenon” as a false dichotomy: either UFOs are alien spacecraft as witnesses maintain, or they can’t exist at all.
 
To defend this, he asks us to imagine that UFOs are not real. He then brings in postmodern philosophy to argue that this will create a logical paradox:
In a subtle twist of logic that would have delighted the philosophers of the Derrida school, this denial of the testimony compiled from hundreds of thousands of sightings all over the world suddenly enables us to accept them freely: What harm could there be in acknowledging these meaningless stories in the light of day? […] If UFOs and physical reality are incompatible, maybe the time has come to re-negotiate physical reality. Because, as we all know, these impossible UFOs that don’t exist are not going away
​Did you catch that? Underneath the Gallic philosophical curlicues, Vallée is (a) conceding that the UFO phenomenon cannot be reconciled with logic, reason, and physics, and (b) therefore we should throw out science in order to keep UFOs by retreating to a slippery worldview where “reality” is subjective and some semi-mystical force operates beyond observable natural law. To justify this, however, Vallée must assume that there is a “UFO phenomenon.” I maintain that there is not, and I dare him to prove otherwise. As I laid out in 2013, I deny that there is any evidentiary connection between elements ascribed to the “UFO phenomenon” such as lights in the sky, encounters with humanoid creatures, crop circles, cattle mutilations, prehistoric art and artifacts, accounts of theophany, etc. Because every element of the UFO phenomenon occurred in the past in isolation, with no connection to the modern UFO myth, we have no reason to place them together except for the myth that developed in the first half of the twentieth century.
 
Vallée, who began his career as a computer scientist, now goes so far as to demean physics because it doesn’t mesh with the growing mystical and mythic version of UFOs, calling the discipline little more than “confusion and ugly contradictions.” Similarly, he has no love of historiography. He praises Levenda and DeLonge for returning to the ancient and medieval textual sources of the ancient astronaut theory, saying that they “bravely question the scholars’ various hypotheses and the respectable traditions of established pieties.” Let’s translate that bit of subterfuge, too: Not only do logic, reason, and physics fail to support ufology, so too does the entire weight of the historiographic and epistemological tradition. So, just as we must eliminate science to keep UFOs, we must also destroy the very foundations of epistemology in order to keep ancient astronauts.
 
If every field of human knowledge must be undone and destroyed to defend the myth of UFOs, then perhaps the better answer is that the myth of UFOs is what needs to change.
21 Comments
Brady yoon
2/27/2017 01:02:42 pm

Couldn't the ancient astronauts have been our own ancestors instead of aliens? After all, the term astronaut does leaves open the possibility that the astronauts were human.

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Jason Colavito link
2/27/2017 01:17:29 pm

You're shading into Shaver Mystery territory there!

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Brady Yoon
2/27/2017 01:29:19 pm

I wasn't familiar with the name, so I did a quick google search.

Deros, Shaver explained, were "detrimental robots." The teros were "integrative robots." But neither deros nor teros were actually robots. As with much else, Shaver was vague on the question of why these beings were called robots at all. They were the remnants of a super race of giants, the Atlans and the Titans, the rest of whom had fled Earth in spaceships 12,000 years ago when the sun began emitting deadly radiation. Those few remaining had retreated to vast caves; during the centuries many degenerated into sadistic idiots (deros) and used the advanced Atlan technology to wreak havoc on the good guys, the teros, who had managed to keep their brains and dignity intact. Other Atlans either stayed on or returned to the Earth's surface, adjusted to the new solar radiation, and became our ancestors. To this day deros kidnap and torture surface humans, shoot airplanes out of the sky, and commit other evil acts.

This sounds almost exactly like a science fiction screenplay I was thinking of writing. Looks like there's really nothing new under the sun...

Clete
2/27/2017 02:44:11 pm

I can only imagine what the first cave men said when Ancient Alien space travelers landed. It probably something like "Well, there goes the neighborhood."

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BigNick
2/28/2017 03:55:08 am

They said, "We'll build a wall. It will be the best wall ever..."

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Americanegro
2/27/2017 03:47:10 pm

"Cavemen were Pleiadian Cro-Magnon. Direct descendants are today's Y-Haplogroup I-M223 (or I2b1). Given '223,' the inverse of '322.' So, not 'Order Through Chaos' types. They're are scattered across the world and have no nation. Known as 'The Original Europeans.'

'Out of Africa' exists simultaneously w/ the information that the Atlantean Homeland has been identified as a stretch of islands that are now submerged off the coast of Europe down to Africa. Watch the series, 'When the survivors of Atlantis Wake Up.'

Battle over the information right now, so won't find that info unless one searches the 'old name' for the Cro-Magnon, which is the 'I2 Y-Haplogroup.' The Cro-Magnons began populating Western Europe in 40,000 BC. By 30,000 BC, war w/ the Neanderthals. Eventually, a 'new race,' an IJK combo of Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal and the less common 'K' hominid, which are still around. Rothschild is reported as J2 Royal Neanderthal."

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A Buddhist
2/27/2017 08:21:11 pm

Are you quoting something or some series of things? Or are you trying to present your own thoughts?

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David Bradbury
2/28/2017 03:52:20 am

That depends on whether AMERICANEGRO is the same person as Disqus commenter Matt Sunny.

Only Me
2/27/2017 04:29:22 pm

Vallée isn't that profound a thinker. If he's arguing for us to lay aside science, historiography and epistemology to make the UFO phenomenon real, then what is the value of his own research? He can't use history or science to support its existence if reality is subjective rather than objective.

That relegates the UFO phenomenon to the realm of faith, which can *still* be rejected, because subjective reality, right?

To DeLonge and Levenda: good luck presenting evidence for your narrative that hasn't been used and found wanting before.

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Cesar
2/27/2017 04:37:34 pm

“Vallée continues to offer the stale Manichean thinking that tries to frame the so-called ‘UFO phenomenon’ as a false dichotomy: either UFOs are alien spacecraft as witnesses maintain, or they can’t exist at all.”

But that UFOs are “spacecraft” is what Vallée denies:

“This is an idea [Ultra-Terrestrial Hypothesis - UHT] put forward by Jacques Vallée, the famed ufologist, that the phenomena associated with UFOs and alien abduction could be explained by the actions of intelligent beings from another dimension MANIPULATING HUMAN CONSIOUSNESS.” Colavito (2013) http://www.jasoncolavito.com/ultra-terrestrials-and-ufos.html.

Vallée “supports an idea he calls the ‘ultra-terrestrial hypothesis’ (UTH) whereby aliens are to be understood as a CULTURALLY-BOUND manifestation of non-human intelligences that communicate with us from another dimension VIA HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS.” Colavito (2013) http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/jacques-vallees-deceptive-evidence-for-ancient-ufos-part-1.

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Jason Colavito link
2/27/2017 05:23:06 pm

I'm using this a bit loosely. In the preface he's trying to say that UFOs are either totally real of completely nonexistent. He doesn't specify exactly what they are supposed to be, and I think his point was actually to say that he wants to follow the non-existent line because that's the one that points to UTH rather than an objectively real physical phenomenon.

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Tom Mellett
2/27/2017 05:42:19 pm

Jason,

Since you were so recently accused of being a govt dis-info agent by Levenda fan, Robert Burke, then I want to focus on the phenomenon of dis-info as it was mentioned last night on George Knapp's interview with Tom de Longe and Peter Levenda on the Coast to Coast show.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2017/02/26

I quote from the summary:
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“In regards to concerns that government insiders could be feeding disinformation to DeLonge, Levenda noted that DeLonge respectfully came to them, rather than the insiders seeking him out.”
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George Knapp linked to a blog article by Robbie Graham accusing TdL of being an unwitting tool of govt dis-info agents.

The DeLonge DeLusion: Part One (Nov 3, 2016)
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/11/the-delonge-delusion-part-one/

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Asked by LA Weekly what makes Sekret Machines different from other works of UFOlogy, DeLonge replied, presumably in all seriousness, “There won’t be any disinformation in my project.” He’s certain of this because he’s “talking to very high-level people.” His answer is so naïve and illogical as to make one wonder if DeLonge even understands the meaning of ‘disinformation.’

It is worth noting here how DeLonge became immersed in the secret world of UFOs. In his book, he describes his journey into the inner circle as a series of opportunistic handshakes and questions directed at the right people at the right time. However, to the discerning reader, it’s obvious even from DeLonge’s own accounting of events that he was manipulated from the outset and encouraged to believe he was making his high-level connections through his own autonomous investigations. 

It’s more likely that DeLonge had been pegged as an ideal disinformation conduit long before he shook that first hand (he’d publicly declared his UFO obsession as early as 2014 in various media interviews). One person introduces him to the next, and so on, all feeding him a new piece of the same ‘puzzle.’

I should emphasize that I’m not accusing DeLonge of willful deception. Rather, I’m suggesting he is being used as an unwitting tool in the furtherance of varying hidden agendas, only some of which may relate to UFOs.
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What do you make of this concern over “disinformation” as accusations fly all around about it?

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Jason Colavito link
2/27/2017 06:47:22 pm

The cynic would say that competitors in the marketplace for UFO books want to attract more market share by discrediting their rivals. Taken on their own terms, they seem to be trying to come to grips with the failure of traditional ufology by creating a master conspiracy to explain away these failures as the first step in revealing an even deeper government conspiracy. Coincidentally or not, this also keeps the cash flowing.

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Tom Mellett
2/27/2017 07:52:07 pm

Yes, I like that idea. And who better to spin the tale of the deepest government “master conspiracy” now than the reputed author of the Simon Necronomicon?

This article by Joe Flatley from 2013 is the best exposé of Peter Levenda as Simon that I have found. However, the part I quote below speaks to the Lovecraftian literary template I surmise Peter is using in his writing of Sekret Machines.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/12/4849860/the-cult-of-cthulhu-real-prayer-for-a-fake-tentacle

Lovecraft also had a way of meshing reality and fantasy in his work. But in his mind, it wasn't magic — it was a confidence trick. In a letter from 1934, he explained to the writer Clark Ashton Smith his belief that "no weird story can truly produce terror unless it is devised with all the care and verisimilitude of an actual hoax."

Often, his stories were structured not as fiction but as essays or news accounts: "Just as if he were actually trying to 'put across' a deception in real life." The results were stories that to this day still has people wondering if there isn't an element of truth to them.

Jasun Horsley
2/27/2017 06:21:21 pm

I haven't seen anything resembling dis-info at the Jason-posts I have read, since most of it seems like reasonable argumentation (as opposed to information, per se).

The PL-TdL project, on the other hand, is so very obviously dis-info-based that I find it hard to imagine it's anything more than a strange prank on PL's part, either that or something he was lured into by the promise of TdL's cast-off groupies knocking on his hotel room door in the wee hours.

I don't know about TdL but I seriously doubt PL is credulous enough to believe he is accurately passing along inside information about the reality of ancient ETs.

IMO, PL's "credulity" is selective, not a feature of his personality.

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PaulN. link
2/27/2017 09:00:56 pm

My earliest experience of the so called "Cargo Cults" was from the movie Mondo Cane. That film was released in 1963, five years before Chariots of the Gods or any of the other ancient alien media of the 1970's.

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Titus pullo
2/28/2017 10:19:03 am

As long as tom deLonge doesnt sing its all good. "How are you" sorry tom but i want to scream everytime u sing that line!

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Day Late and Dollar Short
2/28/2017 03:33:44 pm

Tom wrote and sings Aliens Exist on Blink-182's 1999 album, Enema of the State. In a DVD release with live performances and music videos he speaks about his obsession with aliens, and I believe he name drops Jacque Vallee. Mark and Travis definitely make fun of him for it in the DVD.

On their live CD, the Mark Tom and Travis Show they change the lyrics to Aliens Exist to imply the subject's friends think he is actually using his nights to meet men for sex and the abduction scenario is just a cover.

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Trevor Massey
2/28/2017 11:42:19 pm

Please provide the link you used to the preview of the book.

Is it currently available to the public?

If not, how do you have access to it?

Please advise,

Curious

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Peter Levenda
3/10/2017 12:18:16 pm

An Internet friend notified me of your ongoing reactions to the DeLonge/Podesta revelations and the Sekret Machines project, so I read through your postings going back a few months on the topic. Alas, I don’t know where to begin. So, due to my failure of imagination, I will begin chronologically.

Jason, we have had our contretemps before. I wrote to you previously because of the cavalier attitude towards facts that you exhibited towards me in your book, The Cult of Alien Gods. I pointed out a number of factual errors that you made, errors that were the result of what I assumed was your willingness to believe anything and everything negative that was written or posted about a subject to which you entertain a deep and abiding antipathy. After our correspondence I wanted to give you the benefit of a doubt. The book was written when you were younger and perhaps not as experienced in the kind of research your topic required. But unfortunately your modus operandi has not changed very much. Your skepticism is obviously an ideological position, and you begin from your conclusions and work your way backward, cherry-picking data and then mischaracterizing it to bolster your agenda. This is basically what conspiracy theorists do, and it is ironic that you don’t recognize the same methodology in yourself.

To see if I was the only one you had singled out for this kind of reproach (perhaps due to the fact that I had the temerity to identify errors in your work, errors that you easily could have avoided making) I looked at a few other postings of yours concerning other writers (such as your spat with an author on the Graham Hancock site) and realized that this animus was actually your “universal constant”. The arrogance you exhibit when challenged is astonishing, and so it is with some trepidation (not really) that I address these comments and corrections to you.

In a posting dated November 3, 2016 and entitled “Author Suggests Musician and Ufologist Tom DeLonge Is an Unwitting Government Disinformation Agent” you refer to an article by Robbie Graham on DeLonge and the revelations contained within the Wikileaks document dump of John Podesta’s emails.

You object that “instead of disclosing this information to the public in a factual and direct way, DeLonge has started a multimedia company …” etc. In other words, your characterization of this episode implies gross commercialism on DeLonge’s part, a theme you bring up again and again in your succeeding postings on this subject. What you (and many others) fail to consider is the premise – fully articulated in DeLonge’s own words – that this large-scale, multimedia approach is precisely why he was able to attract the attention of individuals in official positions, not because of the size or publicity of the project but because of its stated intent: to reach as many people, especially young people, as possible and to inspire a generation to become involved. Tom’s obvious sincerity and his desire to avoid unnecessary confrontation were important elements of his approach. After all, the UFO community often has been adversarial where it comes to the government – admittedly with reason – but that stance has not resulted in any kind of “disclosure.” So, he thought, let’s try this a different way.

Then you go on to say that “DeLonge wants us to believe that he is more of a Richard Shaver type character, telling truth in a fictional narrative because the public simply can’t handle the unfiltered truth.” As you must know by now, that was an erroneous assumption on your part. The fictional aspect is a companion to the non-fiction aspect, and no one said that the public can’t handle the “unfiltered truth”: what we are saying is that the truth about the Phenomenon is best understood by engaging both chambers of the bicameral mind (to employ an admittedly dated reference).

The rest of your posting is more concerned with Robbie Graham than with the Sekret Machines project, so I will proceed instead to look at your second relevant posting, dated November 5, 2016 and entitled “UFO Disclosure, Satanic Occultism, and the Consequences of Bad Ideas.”

(“Satanic Occultism?” Care to elaborate on just what that is supposed to be and how it is relevant to the case at hand?)

In this post you use the word “fringe” four times in the first two paragraphs alone to characterize persons and ideas you don’t like. I wonder what your definition of “fringe” really is: anything that doesn’t fit a worldview as imagined by Jason Colavito?

The use of terms like “fringe” and, later on in the same post, “occultist” I believe represents your attempt to marginalize people and ideas with whom and which you have issues. You identify me as “occu

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Larry A. Singleton
3/14/2017 10:31:55 pm

I read Chariot of the Gods when I was a kid. And believed every word. This is an example of what we're seeing in our universities when these "professors" get ahold of young, uninformed, naive, gullible kids and cram their heads with their "expertise". You might be interested to know there's a big fight going on with these "teachers" to prohibit recording devices in their classrooms.

Sounds crazy, right? The thing is, they don't want kids to have a way that would expose them to the lies they're telling students.

One student is being brought up on charges and possibly even being sued for invading the teacher's "privacy". Or something like that. I forget the name of the article, but it was on FrontPage magazine.

Here's one story: Student Punished for Recording Professor’s Anti-Trump Screed by Onan Coca.

http://constitution.com/student-punished-recording-professors-anti-trump-screed/

Olga Perez Stable Cox, a professor at Orange Coast College in Coast Mesa, California. Cox took time out of her busy class schedule to berate then President-elect Donald Trump, the GOP, Conservatives, and anyone who may have voted for the man to be our next President. She told the class that Trump was a “white supremacist” that had “assaulted” our nation and that his election was an “act of terror.” We know this all happened because one of her students happened to record her epic meltdown on his cellphone, with a plan to share it with school administrators.

Almost immediately one of the teachers unions in California was threatening the anonymous student with legal action because he/she recorded the professor without her knowledge. (See, in California it’s okay to berate a person unjustly and to say horrific things about 50% of the population, but it’s not okay to record someone doing that.)

Now, more than a month later, the threats have found their way to the student who bravely recorded the teachers hate-filled screed. His name is Caleb O’Neil and he now faces suspension and worse from the school that has actively persecuted him and other conservative students.

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