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David Childress: Aliens Living in the Hollow Moon Created Bigfoot to Serve as Missing Link Between Humans and Apes

11/27/2018

62 Comments

 
​I had to laugh when I read Inverse magazine’s admission that in a 21-minute interview with Ancient Aliens star David Childress, Childress spoke for 21 straight minutes, barely letting the interviewer get a word in edgewise and making it impossible, as Inverse writer Jake Kleinman said, to create a “coherent” story from his verbal ramblings. Clearly, ancient mysteries are the type of pet topic that allows Childress to monologue in unbroken streams, regardless of whether his listeners are interested, and one might speculate as to the reasons for that, but I would never offer an armchair diagnosis. Instead, I think it serves as a fair warning to future interviewers to be less open-ended in questioning him. In the interview, Childress made a number of statements that lacked the usual qualifiers that the producers of Ancient Aliens routinely force their talking heads to include to provide legal and ethical fig leaves. 
​(The complete text of the interview is not available, so far as I can tell. Inverse published excerpts that were not always clearly in context, which might affect the meaning of some statements. But when has context ever mattered to an ancient astronaut theorist?)
 
In the interview, Childress bluntly asserted that the U.S. government knows space aliens to be real and “they’re prepping us in a social way to think, we’re not alone in the universe,” he said. This is some remarkably subtle work from a government that can’t manage to convince more than 40% of the public to support the president and couldn’t convince Americans to adopt the metric system.
 
Naturally, Childress supports his Ancient Aliens colleague David Wilcock in asserting that science fiction movies and TV series are carefully planned messages designed to manipulate human thought. Showing his age, his contemporary references are all twenty years old. “In my mind, Hollywood is part of it,” Childress said. “Star Trek, sci-fi movies, television shows, many of the films like Independence Day or Mars Attacks. The message is clear: Aliens are here, be afraid.” In fact, this message is so consistent that it becomes impossible to ignore. After all, it’s not like there are ever movies or TV shows about good aliens, like The Day the Earth Stood Still, Alf, 3rd Rock from the Sun, etc.—going back 60 years or more. What I can’t quite fathom, though, is how Childress can say this while working for a TV show broadcast on the History Channel, owned by A+E Networks, a joint venture half-owned by the Walt Disney Company, a leading purveyor of alien-themed propaganda entertainment, in his view. Apparently the only force more powerful than space aliens is the almighty dollar.
 
Childress also attempted to weigh in on evolutionary biology, which he proceeds to completely misunderstand based on mid-twentieth-century creationist attacks on “Darwinism.” His argument surrounds the so-called “missing link” and his belief that Bigfoot is a space alien hybrid. “There’s allegedly this missing link and they say they can’t find it,” he told Inverse. “We’re related to the greater apes but there’s got to be some missing link between them and us. What would that be in my mind is Sasquatch or Bigfoot. […] We’re all descended from Bigfoot.” Just consider that bullshit for a moment. How does Childress think that australopithecines and Homo erectus and all the other hominins and hominids fit into the tree of life if Bigfoot both stands at the root and on the farthest branch? My mind boggles even to think of it, and the worst part is that Childress is clearly spouting half-formed bullshit without so much as considering how his proposal could be reconciled with physical evidence, let alone that the concept of the “missing link” is a holdover from Victorian science. It must be nice when you can wave off any problems with the magic words “aliens did it.”
 
Without citing any evidence other than the claims of supposed alien abductees, Childress claims that aliens (a) run hospitals under the ocean and (b) have medicine to cure every disease but choose not to help most people.
 
Perhaps most bizarrely, Childress more or less openly endorses the bonkers version of Atlantis given in the ersatz prophecies of Edgar Cayce, in the fake tablets of Thoth the Atlantean, and on the fringes of Theosophy rather than the standard form of the story given in Plato, the oldest source for the Atlantis myth. Plato said that Atlantis was destroyed in 9600 BCE and had existed for several centuries prior to that. Childress stretches this back to absurdity. “When did we get out of our caves and start doing stuff? That was only 9000 BC, but the story of Atlantis is from 20,000 years ago. We were doing stuff. We were making roads. Building Bridges building forts. What were people doing something in about 50,000 BC? Atlantis.” I guess we can give Childress this much credit: Theosophists said that Atlantis peaked spiritually 100,000 years ago and dates back one million years. His numbers are slightly more realistic.
 
Oh, I take it back… Most bizarrely, Childress endorsed the hollow moon hypothesis (as he has done on Ancient Aliens more than once) that’s been going around for the past half-century, based on a piece of Russian propaganda from the 1960s aimed at Western audiences. Childress alleged that aliens created the moon by inflating an asteroid. Yes, really. “Like a glass blower blows glass, you go out into the asteroid belt, get yourself an asteroid, and with your alien technology you superheat that asteroid. Then you blow into it to make a giant space station,” he said. That seems like rather a lot of work to avoid showing yourself to the humans.
 
Finally, I will point out that Childress, apparently unbidden, praised the Russians in the interview, which continues the strange undercurrent of Ancient Aliens stars sucking up to Russia that has led the series to do several episodes devoted to praising Putin and Russia’s state-controlled scientific and military apparatuses. 
62 Comments
Joe Scales
11/27/2018 10:02:30 am

"This is some remarkably subtle work from a government that can’t manage to convince more than 40% of the public to support the president..."

Even Gallop had him over 40% last week and Rasmussen generally has him near 50%. But get your political slurs in however you can, eh? It's important!

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Frank
11/27/2018 10:23:39 am

Someone has his head up Trump's ass. and far up, I would guess, since we can see only the feet dangling. See any upper colon polyps? And I hope they are cancerous, as we need to rid ourselves of this evil idiot; an idiot that does know what he thinks he knows. Trump is such a modest and temperate man!

Admitting that there is a knowledge of what we know and of what we do not know, which would supply a rule and measure of all things, still there would be no good in this; and the knowledge which temperance gives must be of a kind which will do us good; for temperance is a good. But this universal knowledge does not tend to our happiness and good: the only kind of knowledge which brings happiness is the knowledge of good and evil.

Since Atlantis is mentioned again, we are sure to attract the same old idiots, as Joe calls them. Mighty Joe scales weighs our faults and than tips the scales.

Don't get excited, I'm just commenting on your comments, and not attempting to get your attention, you idiot!

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 12:11:24 pm

When was the plebiscite on the metric system? My invitation must have gotten lost in the mail.

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gdave
11/27/2018 12:57:37 pm

I hesitate to wade into this, but, here I go, I guess:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

As of today, 11/27/18, the latest YouGov poll has President Trump's approval rating at 40%. 538's weighted average of major polls puts his approval rating at 42.5%. That's actually relatively high for him. Per 538's weighted average, his approval rating dipped below 40% in May of last year, and stayed below 40% until February of this year. It's been hovering between 40% and 43% since, with a couple of dips back below 40%.

Jason's assessment appears to be pretty accurate.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 02:11:59 pm

Difficult to say without knowing the weighting methodology. KIM (keep in mind) that 538, once a partner of the NYTtimes is now owned by ABC News, employers of George "Your Christian faith" Stephanopolous. Nonetheless still a valuable resource.

An Anonymous Nerd
11/27/2018 11:16:23 pm

If anyone doesn't see what's really going on here: Mr. Colavito's point of course is to question the government's ability to carry out the conspiracy that Mr. Childress attributes to it. There was nothing partisan about it other than the fact that a celebrity for whom Mr. Scales has an affection happens to be President. (Not, I note, during the metric system thing, which also was mentioned by Mr. Colavito.)

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Frank
11/27/2018 10:58:14 am

Jason, why is Mighty Joe Scales, or whatever his real name is, stalking you? Is he jealous because he craves, but cannot attract a following such as yours? Why does he feel that he needs to correct and criticize you? Or perhaps you, Jason, have intentionally arranged this, much like planting a stooge in the audience to make it more exciting? Joe is really so funny with his intelligent sarcasm!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfrdG6gRDZk

I hardly see this "fellow" comment on the material you present, and quickly he resorts to "sly" remarks on what he believes are indirect hints to your political preferences that you manage to slip in there.

But as far as Childress goes, is it not the same old story? No not Atlantis, but money-making, as their views and ideas are only voiced to appeal to the 40% deplorables, those that will contribute, monetarily, to pad the coffers of people like himself and Wilcock, and the rest of the good old gang of conspiracy theorists. Science-fiction or political, conspiracy theorists are all the same, basically. They have no virtue, and make wealth their primary goal, regardless of what they need to say or do. And this is the same old story of good and evil. Let's make America great Again? No, let us make Atlantis Great Again.


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Jockobadger
11/27/2018 11:11:59 am

I simply cannot believe how truly far out there some of this stuff is. Surely these people don't really believe this shite do they? Bigfoot the Missing Link? Hollow moon? Are they all getting rich with this tripe?


Speaking of Hard To Believe:

Bob Mueller just dropped the hammer on "President T" yesterday and it is truly diabolical. He made the squeal-deal with Paul Manafort, then spent a couple months interviewing him i.e. feeding him info, which he then whispered back to T via his atty's. Please note that President T just finished the answers to the OSC's questions last week, submitted under oath.

Well guess what? The answers to Prez T's interrogatories were provided by Manafort - they thought they were getting their stories straight like a couple of kids going into the Principal's Office. The best part is that the goon Whitaker can't even interfere because the Pre-sentencing Submittal goes directly to the trial court, all of it pre-Whitaker. The only possible way for Trump to dodge now would be to quickly pardon Paulie, but that is political suicide. Even Gamble in the SCOTUS can't save him. lololol

No wonder he's rage-tweeting this morning!! Back to work.

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Joe Scales
11/27/2018 11:56:20 am

"Speaking of Hard To Believe:"

More like what you want to believe. You see how bullshit politics wreck this place? Bad enough our host shows bias with his slurs, which tends to discredit him. But to just jumpstart a political brawl.... well, I warned him years ago what would happen should he mix his politics with debunking.

Welcome to the sewer.

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Jockobadger
11/27/2018 12:25:20 pm

I know, Joe, I know. You find the whole thing just so f-ing boring, don't you? Here we have a troop of baboons running the WH, the Russians are grabbing Crimea, and Peshkov just told Pompeo to go f--k himself because they know the Chief Baboon's balls are in Vlad's vice, but it's all just Bullshit. Bullshit you warned Jason would get out of hand.....


Just FYI, I enjoy the content on this site very much, including the comments, yours included. It's just that TODAY I'm more interested in the threats to our country rather than David Childress' foolishness.


If Jason asks me to, I'll knock it off. I just find that other folk's comments here are often thought-provoking. Why kill the dialog?

Joe Scales
11/27/2018 05:07:08 pm

You're a good sport Jocko. Politics and truth don't go hand in hand. Debunking and truth usually do. Or at least, should do. Mix debunking and politics and you've just injected bias and intellectual dishonesty in what should be an honorable endeavor.

Most of us come for the debunking, and just because someone might not want to jump on some other cause makes it clear that politics only distract and divide. Heck, just pointing it out makes me a right wing zealot to many here, when mostly it's debunking on my part when unfair or dishonest politicizing comes about. I mean, heck... don't we have enough of that in each and every aspect of American life these days. Forgive me for seeking a respite.

Jason is our host, and if he wants to feed the partisans here, that's his prerogative. It's already abundantly clear that's how he intends to operate. And he's sloppier for it.

Bezalel
11/28/2018 06:03:48 am

"Mix debunking and politics and you've just injected bias and intellectual dishonesty in what should be an honorable endeavor."

You're too inexperienced to realize this assertion is wrong

They are already mixed, because fringe belief and right wing politics are much more closely tied than the fringes and the left wing.

The right wing uses politics to sanction and enshrine their fringe religious beliefs.

Intellectual honesty and a lot more study on your part will bear this out

Joe Scales
11/28/2018 09:48:12 am

"They are already mixed, because fringe belief and right wing politics are much more closely tied than the fringes and the left wing."

And here we have it. Grouping two things you don't like and imagining a connection that confirms your political beliefs. Exactly the kind of confirmation bias that poisons politically infused debunking. You see what you want to see, and ignore the plain light of day.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/28/2018 02:16:42 pm

"The right wing uses politics to sanction and enshrine their fringe religious beliefs."

The left wing uses politics to sanction and enshrine their fringe religious beliefs.

"all three chambers of Congress--uh, rather, all three chambers of government, the Presidency, the Senate and the House."

The Chevy Volt.

Tesla.

Solyndra.

Libya. "We came, we saw, he died. Cackle!"

College for everyone.

STEM!

E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 11:22:37 am

I think that David is what you get when you have a very intelligent person with Attention Deficit Disorder.

In any case, he has a real talent, which is a tremendous ability to take a pile of shit and make it sound reasonable.And he has long since found a way to make money with that talent.

Another nice thing about David is his willingness to look at facts that others ignore. You may not like his conclusions, but sometimes the facts are there. That they are combined with absolute nonsense is usually besides the point.

Consider for example those ingots on that shipwreck. Those ingots are there, but where did they comet from? My guess would be from Spain, but without confirmation from field excavation or further analysis of the shipwreck's remains, they guess Ancient Aliens on Atlantis. And throw in nonsense about the almost mythical Kadmos to do it.

If you really want to look at something strange, look at the Mayanists sucking up to the Theosophists to get access to Augustus LePlongeon's Mayan materials. I suppose we all have our price.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 01:08:39 pm

Not "the Theosophists" but two Theosophists in particular. The Getty Archives which holds Plunger's papers takes a different view:

"Estranged from the academic archaeological community, the Le Plongeons increasingly concentrated their activities in theosophist and spiritualist circles. At some point they met Henry Field Blackwell, an electrical engineer and inventor, and his wife Maude, perhaps through a Masonic connection, as both men were Freemasons. The two couples became close friends, and Maude in particular championed the Le Plongeons' work. Augustus died in 1908 at the age of eighty-three, and only two years later Alice died at age fifty-nine. The Blackwells inherited the research and writings of the Le Plongeons, promising to make every attempt to continue publishing and promulgating their work. In 1913-1914 Maude Blackwell was successful in seeing Augustus' The Origin of the Egyptians and The Pyramid of Xochicalco published in The Word, a theosophical journal, but subsequently fell on hard times following her husband's death. Alone in Los Angeles, where the couple had moved in the late 1920s, Maude struggled to survive through the Great Depression. Although her connections to theosophist circles increased, Maude's efforts during the 1930s to interest archaeologists such as Frans Blom and Sylvanus Morley in the work of the Le Plongeons, came to naught. Nevertheless, throughout the twentieth century the Le Plongeons and their theories continued to be mentioned in scholarly, theosophical, and popular literature, and in recent years the value of their fieldwork and photography has been reassessed."

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E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 03:56:30 pm

@Shit for Brains -

All of which kind of glides right by Alice and Augustus's key role in the foundation of Theosophy.

Like I said, it is bizarre to watch the horseshit the Mayanists will put up with to get access to Augustus's Mayan materials, up to and including writing really bogus history of Theosophy.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 04:20:20 pm

Okay, it's time to come to Jesus, in your case literally. I'm growing impatient with your bad language so listen up you stupid one-note Bic lighter sheath peddling no longer fucking obstreperous fuck:

"it is bizarre to watch the horseshit the Mayanists will put up with to get access to Augustus's Mayan materials"

As the Getty Archives, custodian of the Plungers' and the Blackwells' papers states, the Blackwells, the OWNERS of the Plunger Archive, couldn't GIVE them away to the Mayanists of the day. In other words "Chief completely wrong."

Every time you inhale Wakan Tanka cries a little. Don't get me started on what your pottymouth does.

"E.P. GRONDINE
5/15/2018 04:33:50 pm
Dear Dickwad -

Since you won't get up from your computer and go out and get laid, may I suggest that as an alternative you go fuck yourself."

E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 08:59:23 pm

@Shit for Brains

"Estranged from the academic archaeological community, the Le Plongeons increasingly concentrated their activities in theosophist and spiritualist circles."

The problem that the Getty has with this statement is that there were no Theosophists before the Le Plongeons.

The problem that you have is that a lot of the ancient aliens nonsense is theosophist nonsense recycled by David.


American cool "disco" dan
11/27/2018 09:24:57 pm

PROVE THAT COCKSUCKER (speaking to you in your own language). The Plungers were nowhere near the founding of the Theosophical Society, and further, were nowhere near the founding of Theosophy.

PROVE IT.

E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 09:42:38 pm

@Shit for Brains -

Here you go:

http://www.danieljglenn.com/the_podcasts/Stelle/Documentation/He%20Walked%20Among%20Us%20Part%201.pdf

http://www.danieljglenn.com/the_podcasts/Stelle/Documentation/He%20Walked%20Among%20Us%20Part%202.pdf

The way I see the material is as late night hour long episodes on Cinemax or Showtime. Will Richard's latest sexual adventure lead to his whole con falling to shit, or will he be able to pull it out of the fire yet once again?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 09:59:50 pm

No, fuck that NeverFuckAgainFuckWad fake Injun. I'm not interested in podcasts about Kissinger. Produce reasonably contemporaneous DOCUMENTS or just FUCK OFF.

Jason, based on the nonsense this idiot has posted here you will never run out of material to debunk. Because most of what he say is bullshit.

We've seen today how Chief reacts to scholars refuting his assertions with primary materials, the Plunger and Baklava archives.

E.P. Grondine
11/28/2018 11:19:42 am

@Shit for Brains

Oh yeah

You are acting just like Trump dealing with the Mueller investigation, Shir for Brains.

P.G. Grondine
11/28/2018 02:06:13 pm

Sick burn bro!

Denise
11/28/2018 02:40:16 pm

Hey, I tried to look it up...but no luck. Could you explain what "plunger" is? Thanks!

E.P. Grondine
11/28/2018 02:52:05 pm

@Denise

"Plunger" is Shit for Brains attempt to avoid talking about Augustus Le Plonogeon and his wife Alice. I think it is not likely to work.

V
11/28/2018 02:34:41 pm

"I think that David is what you get when you have a very intelligent person with Attention Deficit Disorder."

Speaking as a literal genius (or so IQ tests have indicated) who has ADD:

FUCK.

NO.

This is not something you can pin on ADD. ADD can make it hard to stick to a topic. It doesn't rob you of any ability to think logically about a subject, and it doesn't make you put together disparate and unrelated things into a whole that utterly lacks coherency. THAT is a character flaw, not ADD, not intelligence OR lack thereof. It's someone who desperately wants reality to be less REAL, and thus substitutes his own despite ANY challenge.

Don't demean intelligent people or people with ADD this way, dude, we won't take it lying down.

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E.P. Grondine
11/28/2018 02:56:35 pm

V -

When you speak with David, he flits from topic to topic.

Flitting from topic to topic is also a great way for David to avoid looking closely at any one point.

Now that is either ADD or a severe cocaine addiction.
I go with ADD.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/28/2018 03:28:24 pm

@V:

No argue Chief! Chief know heapum everything. Chief give you nickname. Chief use heapum profanity. Chief first go Happy Hunting Grounds. Chief idiot.

Joe Scales
11/28/2018 03:50:19 pm

Fake disease...

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/28/2018 04:37:03 pm

Yes, there's that, but I've found that saying it does no good. Fortunately scientists have discovered that SPEED HELPS YOU CONCENTRATE! Who knew?

Kal
11/27/2018 01:31:28 pm

Gallop is owned by the biased conservative to middle ground polling agencies, and can skew facts easily.

Rasmussen polling is an arm of the Republican party and is one of the most biased Fox News polling centers around.

Ironically they have Trumpy at 45 percent. Their own guy. Ouch. Rage tweet!

But the topic is not Trumpy, but the missing link article. A cartoon by Laika will explain it all next year. It's about the very thing! Ha. See, Hollywood does know.

I am kidding about them knowing, but there is a cartoon called that, and it will be out in 2019.

Trumpy should be in the midst of his impeachment trial by then.

But this has nothing to do with the government.

The hollow planet glass bowing stuff is some weird crack smoking induced mumbo jumbo BS tripe.


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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 01:58:33 pm

"Gallop is owned by the biased conservative to middle ground polling agencies, and can skew facts easily."

Well that's wrong for a start. Gallup is owned by SRI and has partnered with USA Today and CNN.

"Rasmussen polling...Ironically they have Trumpy at 45 percent."

So another data point that suggests Jason was, shall we say, mistaken?

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Jason Colavito link
11/27/2018 02:34:42 pm

You know that any given poll is just a data point. Trump has hovered between the mid-thirties and mid-forties on average across various polls and across various times, moving in large part with the news cycle. Four in ten is around the average it works out to over the two years of his presidency.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 02:58:17 pm

See above about 538 (again, I don't know what their weighting methodology is, it might be the best in the world), then it might be elucidative to look at the numbers in this table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_the_Donald_Trump_administration#2018

Doc Rock
11/27/2018 04:14:24 pm

First day of any 101 Intro college class: Sorry kiddies but Wikipedia is not considered to be a valid source.

I'm predicting that Tweedle Dum and Tweeddle Dummer from the kiddie table will now go well into double digits trying to hijack the thread because they want to bicker about a reasonably well substantiated polling number provide by Colavito.


47 minutes until Happy Hour and it can't come fast enough.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 04:24:10 pm

Feel free to point out which numbers are wrong Cap'n. Until you do that, have a nice day in Christ. You think the Aspergers riddled Wikipedia editors wouldn't have taken care of that?

By your logic 538 also cannot be relied upon. I didn't say it.

Frank
11/27/2018 03:35:08 pm

I would kindly request from those here that are not considered as being idiots to please tell me, from an historical basis, if in the USA of our past we have ever had so much talk and worries that a sitting president of our beautiful American democracy may lead us towards despotism? Are these worries just that, worries, and nothing more? I have heard that history repeats itself. Have we not had tyrants emerge from democracies before? Why we have been told this very thing by ancient sages, and to think that it could not happen to us too is sheer folly.

Last of all comes the most beautiful of all, man and State alike, tyranny and the tyrant; these we have now to consider.
Quite true, he said.
Say then, my friend, in what manner does tyranny arise?–that it has a democratic origin is evident.....

And speaking of Plato's Atlantis, as a political object to stand opposite Socrates' utopian ideal state, what are the philosophical points that Plato was wanting to make with the story of Atlantis? I hear this from many skeptics about Atlantis, as being the main factor for a made-up story, rather than one that may have some truth to it.

I'll agree that Plato's story has been stretched and twisted to the point of no return, but what has prompted all these far-fetched exaggerations? Blavatsky must have felt that there were enough block-heads to eat this stuff she was feeding them. And Cayce just took over from her to keep serving more stuff in the "kitchens of the homeless," and headless too, "apparently."

Debunking politics is needed more these days, than just plain story-telling debunking. I suggested this to Jason quite a while ago, as soon as Trump appeared on the horizon. So why not have a combination of the two?

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American Col "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 03:57:35 pm

First, enough with the "ancient sages" and "good and evil" non-sense.

"I would kindly request from those here that are not considered as being idiots to please tell me, from an historical basis, if in the USA of our past we have ever had so much talk and worries that a sitting president of our beautiful American democracy may lead us towards despotism?"

Second, read a book now and then.

Lincoln in the 1860s. Some would cite the Civil War itself but I limit myself to the suspension of Habeas Corpus and the imprisonment of Maryland legislators to keep them from voting against his measures.

Roosevelt with his attempt to pack the Supreme Court by asking Congress to add more seats that he could fill. And his cavalier practice of having a Soviet spy actually living in the White House. The case for his behind the scenes machinations to drag the U.S, into WWII is not sufficiently clear in my view although I lean that way.

Johnson for his participation in or more likely advance knowledge of Kennedy's assassination.

Nixon in the 1960s and 70s for arguably prolonging the Vietnam war before he was even elected via the Chennault Affair, a Logan Act violation, the continuation of COINTELPRO, and his famous statement "It's not illegal if the President does it."

Obama with his government by Executive Order, his ill-advised destruction of Libya without Congressional approval and his illegal invasion of Syria. Not to mention his murder of a U.S, citizen.

I hope I have satisfied partisans of both parties.

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E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 04:05:55 pm

@Shit for Brains

"Johnson for his participation in or more likely advance knowledge of Kennedy's assassination"

Oh f*cking really?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 04:29:28 pm

I only know what Madeleine Duncan Brown one of his mistresses said he told her the night before the assassination, "After tomorrow those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That's not a threat. That's a promise."

To quote Guru Tom Jones, it's not unusual.

What do you have, Powatomy Pottymouth?

E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 09:23:10 pm

While LBJ was an SOB, I am pretty sure that you are way of base with that.

Judging from the gangsters' deaths which occurred about the time of the new investigations, say 1979 if I remember correctly, my conclusion is that the Kennedy's concluded that the responsibility lay there.

If you want to investigate those deaths, then do, but for some strange reason I don't. I suppose they will just have to remain another of history's mysteries.

Now Kennedy using Exner to message Hughes is a different thing entirely.

You are right about Nixon and Chennault.

Roosevelt's relations with Stalin during WW2 are "interesting".
I suppose that any day now you'll get around to Morgenthal and his role.

Mercury
11/27/2018 03:58:54 pm

Off topic note. Scott Wolter on the Fade to Black Radio show tomorrow at 10:30 Eastern.

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E.P. Grondine
11/27/2018 04:01:04 pm

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been."

"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

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P.G. Grondine
11/27/2018 04:37:07 pm

"E.P. GRONDINE
11/24/2018 11:52:45 am
@Joe

I suppose the whole search just goes to demonstrate that people believe what they want to believe, facts to the contrary usually ignored. A certain kind of desperation usually motivates their beliefs."

Chief heapum self-aware.

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Jim
11/27/2018 08:48:52 pm

"His argument surrounds the so-called “missing link” and his belief that Bigfoot is a space alien hybrid."

http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/alf.jpg

Will you look at the size of those alien feet, maybe Childress is on to something !!

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Lemmiinks
11/27/2018 09:39:30 pm

Jason, you criticize DCs contemporary references because they are 20 years old and then you reference TDTESS (1951], Alf (1986 to 1990), and Third Rock (1996 to 2001). Talk about showing your age....

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Jason Colavito link
11/27/2018 10:40:39 pm

I did that on purpose. It shows that Childress's claims weren't even true for the time he remembers.

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Jim
11/27/2018 10:45:54 pm

C'mon man, other than being a little short, Alf fits Childress' description to a tee !

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/27/2018 11:10:39 pm

Let it be noted that Star Trek has never gone away.

And if you're going to include Alf and 3rd Rock you really need to include Mork and Mindy, Get a Life and Married With Children, as well as the incest-themed Roswell with a then-hot Shiri Appleby and a pre-trainwreck Katherine Heigl. And of course a young Colin Hanks.

Priceless Defender
11/28/2018 01:10:12 pm

It seems everyone has forgotten about the "Six Million Dollar Man". Steve Austin, astronaut, a man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability of building the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, Stronger, Faster.

If I remember correctly there was a real Earth Bigfoot and then an alien made bionic Bigfoot. Throw in an alien tank to rip off his bionic arm...
Whollah...Ancient Aliens inspirational material.
I have to include "3rd Rock From the Sun" due to John Lithgow's connection to "Harry and the Hendersons".

I've lost count of the times where some faction of aliens /Time Travelers are helping the Nazis. While at the same time, another faction of aliens/Time Travelers are help the Allies.

As for politics...

What do you call Donald high on weed?


...Baked Cracker!


I'm thinking his skin could be orange due to some chemical reaction from the urine of Russian hookers, and tanning bed products.

Just because he thinks he's been elected Dick Tater, doesn't mean he should resemble a tot.

Why is there even a question of collusion when he's on his second mail-order Eastern European bride? Personally, I don't trust any man incapable of interacting with an American woman. They are strong, independent, free-thinking ladies, and are more than capable of handling their own business.


Sincerely,

Idiot imbecile

Beat you all to it!

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E.P. Grondine
11/28/2018 03:04:39 pm

Since everyone here is interested in Trump and the Russians, here is a nice sumary:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/11/28/the-russia-scandal-was-a-bumbling-conspiracy-but-it-was-still-a-conspiracy/?utm_term=.0ff061775646

It leaves out Manafort's ties to the Mercers, but then no one here is the US is able to handle that in any way. I expect coverage of it from The Guardian.

Have a great day.

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Titus Pullo
11/28/2018 05:48:51 pm

the Hollow Moon theory..wow sounds similar to Keynsian Economics....both are based on irrational thinking where basic facts, logic, and yes math are ejected for ideology.

I would expect both theories to be very favored at the Federal reserve, many Economics Schools, and the media...

Alan Butler, Scot wolter, and the bunch would be at home with Ben Bernanke or Hank Paulson

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David Evans
11/30/2018 12:30:02 pm

I wonder if Childress has considered that we know the mass of the Moon very accurately, and if it was formed by inflating an asteroid (even one the size of Ceres) that asteroid would have to have been much denser than any known element.
Also that we have put seismographs on the Moon.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/30/2018 01:53:25 pm

I don't think you understand what density is. Elements in and of themselves are neither dense nor non-dense.

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David Evans
11/30/2018 02:35:52 pm

Perhaps I should have specified the solid form of the element.
By my calculations the hypothetical asteroid would have had a density of around 160 tonnes per cubic meter. Solid osmium, the densest known element, has a density of 22.59 tonnes per cubic meter. The densest known asteroid is Lutetia with a density of 3.4 tonnes per cubic meter.

Is that enough to make my point?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/30/2018 06:01:50 pm

No.

David Evans
11/30/2018 06:23:55 pm

Perhaps you would care to explain. Why, when Googling "what is the density of (any solid element)" gives a definite answer, as does looking it up in any relevant reference book, do you say "Elements in and of themselves are neither dense nor non-dense."?

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American Cool "disco" Dan
11/30/2018 10:19:55 pm

Show me the made-up reference that shows me the density of one atom of hydrogen.

Show me the made-up reference that shows me the density of one atom of osmium.

For that matter, show me the reference book you were referring to.
Name it. You CAN'T.

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David Evans
12/1/2018 04:19:02 am

The reference book I was referring to is Tables Of Physical And Chemical Constants by Kaye and Laby. You can find the physical book on Amazon or the online version here

http://www.kayelaby.npl.co.uk/chemistry/3_1/3_1_2.html

Also I carefully specified "the solid form of the element" and "any solid element" to avoid stupid arguments like this one. Of course it's not meaningful to talk of the density of a single atom, which is why I did not do that.

Are we done here, or do you have any other stupid remarks?

Exaterressial Assonaut
12/2/2018 09:23:53 am

Childress has been watching too much Six Milkion Dolkar Man from the 70s.

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EA
12/2/2018 09:26:56 am

Six Million Dollar Man

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      • Prehistoric Nuclear War
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          • Man During the Stone Age
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          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
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        • Fragments on Giants
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        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
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        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
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      • Extreme History >
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        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
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        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
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        • Prince Henry Sinclair
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        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
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        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
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        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
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      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
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        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
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      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
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      • The Lost Continent
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      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
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        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
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      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
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