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Deep Prasad Describes Totally Not a Dream Alien Encounter

12/6/2019

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Apparently, it is dream week here on my blog, since Silicon Valley entrepreneur turned UFO enthusiast Deep Prasad posted a long Twitter thread this past weekend outlining what he claims to be his own UFO experience. Regular readers will remember Prasad because he planned to use Silicon Valley resources to hunt UFOs, and because he criticized me on Twitter for doubting claims about “alien” metamaterials. His recent Twitter thread was collected and published by the aptly named Hot Air, and I think you’ll quickly see that the supposed encounter is almost certainly not what Prasad thinks it is. Here is the most relevant part. The story occurs three months after Prasad began obsessive UFO studies and shortly after the suicide of an acquaintance that he said left him “traumatized.”
Near the beginning of this year (February 1st), I had the most absurd, world-changing experience of my life. It happened in broad daylight at 9:40 in the morning in my home. More specific details will be for another time when I have a better safety net and can expand more. But to put it simply: I was paralyzed against my will, could not move, and saw 3 entities that had no-chill [sic—“no chins,” presumably]. Could I be crazy? Sure. Do I think I am? Obviously not. Could this have been a hallucination? I can’t prove it wasn’t or I wouldn’t be so worried about sharing this.
 
These entities projected hundreds/thousands of sentences and paragraphs in a language that looked like a marriage of Japanese and Egyptian hieroglyphics. I was terrified that I could barely move and was in complete disbelief at what was happening. I’d go back and forth between, convincing myself that I was having some sort of seizure or had fallen unconscious and that there was no way this was happening, to downright fear realizing that it all felt more real than reality.
 
I was scared that I couldn’t move and was not in control of the situation yet could think perfectly straight.
He went on to say that he recognized one English word in the hieroglyphics (!), and it was “DNA” (!!). Nice of aliens to use English initialisms. He claimed that he was transported magically to a room full of golden angels with big eyes like Grey aliens, and he was filled with a “euphoric” feeling of bliss and universal love that he says cured his depression and converted him from atheism to a believer in the divine. He fell back to sleep and then woke up at home.
 
I urge you to read the whole account for yourself.
 
At first glance, Prasad seems to be describing a waking dream that occurred during sleep paralysis. There is nothing in his account to contradict this conclusion, and indeed his references to sleep and the haziness and emotion characteristic of dreams only serve to confirm the conclusion.
 
I understand how powerful these experiences can be. I’ve repeated often enough the story of my own waking dream and (partial) sleep paralysis where a demonic alien-like creature attacked me, and I bonked its nose-hole, causing it to disappear into a puff of smoke. Alien-demons don’t scare me, even in dreams. I don’t believe in them. But long, long ago I had one of the most intense dreams of my life. I was in my early teens, I think, and it had all of that universal love and an apparition of Greek-style deity (I was always more Classically inclined and was never partial to big-eyed sparkly golden space angels). But it also took place in the middle of the island from the then-current video game Myst, so I was pretty sure I hadn’t been transported to Olympus unless the gods have very strange decorating taste.
 
It’s disappointing to see that Prasad’s trust in science stops at his own subjective personal experience, but also revealing to see that his adamant ufology is really the fire of the converted, not terribly different from the cult leaders and religious fanatics who claim visitations from heaven.
28 Comments
I was scared that I couldn’t move
12/6/2019 08:50:55 am

"...caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.."

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Doc Rock
12/6/2019 10:22:12 am

I've had similar experiences, usually brought on by five or six Chardonnays and a large order of jalapeño poppers just before bedtime

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Aye
12/6/2019 11:44:33 am

The Siberian tribesmen know all about inebriated religion

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Minnie
12/6/2019 12:23:07 pm

Persistence of anti-alienists to deny the obvious must be applauded.

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Peter's denial
12/6/2019 01:07:27 pm

Oh no, Peter's denial of Jesus again

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Kent
12/6/2019 02:47:56 pm

The guy whose website it's posted on says he was awake when it started so we can throw sleep paralysis out for a start if we believe that's true. Not every weird experience is sleep paralysis.

"Not every weird experience is sleep paralysis." Say it with me!

I would go with "some sort of seizure" which is meaningless. Prasad mentions he considered having an MRI but didn't. Some scientist.

"I was debating whether to delete all my tweets on the subject because I was starting to think it was all one big scam and I was disgruntled with the lack of hard evidence. This pushed me over the edge and made me double down on my obsession."

Telling words.

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Iskanander
12/6/2019 04:12:26 pm

"I would go with "some sort of seizure" which is meaningless."

It's not meaningless. That's what it is: a seizure.

"Sleep Paralysis" is a convenient name because it names the most obvious effect of the syndrome: you wake from sleep and realize you're paralyzed.

The rest is all temporal lobe stuff.

Temporal Lobe Epilepsy occurs on a spectrum. Hildegard Von Bingen had it. St. Paul had it. Whitley Streiber has it...

Go look up Geschwind Syndrome. I'd also take a look at "ocular migraines".

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Kent
12/6/2019 07:20:57 pm

Listen up, Enquirer:

When I say "seizure" it is indeed meaningless because I don't know how to define "seizure" or explain what a "seizure" is.

"Sleep paralysis" is only convenient if there is sleep involved.

"Not every weird experience is sleep paralysis." Say it with me!

You can say "frontal lobe" all day long but at best you're guessing and at worst (a very close 2nd) you're making stuff up.

Iskanander
12/7/2019 01:19:48 am

I've grown so used to that sort of response.

Your post is indicative of why "disclosure" has been pointed out as being such a threat to the stability of society.

Do you remember that Southpark episode where British Petroleum unleashes Cthulhu? The BP exec and all the "I'm sorry" commercials?

?

Iskanander
12/7/2019 01:27:42 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4

Matt
12/7/2019 08:59:37 am

"The guy whose website it's posted on says he was awake when it started so we can throw sleep paralysis out for a start if we believe that's true"

Or mayhap he thought he was awake, or he remembered that he thought he was awake, or thought he remembered that he thought he was awake, or dreamt he thought he was awake. All just as plausible as him definately begin awake.

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Kent
12/7/2019 02:03:20 pm

Awww, did "if we believe that's true" go over your head?

Matt
12/8/2019 05:38:02 am

No.

Kal
12/6/2019 04:14:54 pm

An episode of The X Files had MUlder get taken during the day, in a dream like trance, and he was shown a similar jibberish of languages. He and Scully then found a UFO with several languages written on the hull, of which that season ended in a cliffhanger that was resolved sloppily by implying next season that the government made it go away. The languages though were from various religious texts, as they kept pictures. Later on those pictures were destroyed, because they dropped that plot thread.

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Not the Comte de Saint Germain
12/6/2019 11:14:26 pm

I've never experienced anything during sleep paralysis except the paralysis itself, but I've dreamed about Myst Island more than once.

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Tony C
12/8/2019 02:14:18 pm

Wow! It was awhile ago, but Myst was a pretty cool game with a adventurous plot.
I agree with "sleep paralysis' IF he was waking from sleep. But it just sounds like BS. sorry!

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William Moisson Sr.
12/8/2019 03:24:42 pm

Nuts

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Mrs Grimble
12/11/2019 06:56:40 am

I've had plenty of sleep paralysis experiences; I've seen football-sized spiders running across the floor, a vista of an alien planet through my bedroom window, georgeously-dressed figures parading around my bed, all hissing and buzzing, just for examples.
There were so many that I got to regard them as free entertainment and not really frightening. And I've also had dreams where I thought I was wide awake until something dreamlike happened.
It's called hypnogogic dreaming and Prasad's experience sounds exactly like one.

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Iskanander
12/11/2019 11:09:07 pm

Oh that's cool. I also had the "football sized spiders" one very memorable night. It happened many years ago.

I'll try to describe it. I was stressed cuz I was in training and on a tite sleep schedule. I was laying down, in my small room, with my face towards the door. So I was facing a common room with a door way-across-that-room that lead outside.

I thought I was awake, and I saw the football-spider start to come for me. It was coming from outside from that door I was facing across the room.

I thought, "I must be dreaming", and I was. I woke just in time to feel a tingling rush course through me, as though the kinetic energy from the thing had to go somewhere, right? Like some sort of "double-phantom", the experience produced a physical phantom that I felt in my body.

"Free Entertainment"? I totally understand.

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Me Too!
12/12/2019 02:23:53 am

I am also mentally ill so I can relate.

Tony C
12/12/2019 09:51:48 am

Mine was when I was in the military during Desert Firex, we were north of 29 Palms, outside Camp Wilson, Just plenty of sand. I was in a sleeping bad and thought I was just waking from dream but still asleep. I couldn't move, but felt stings of scorpions manifesting from the bottom of my sleeping back working their way up to my face. Yes, I did think they would sting my balls too:)
But the fear was I was paralyzed and no way to unzip my sleeping bag. I tried to scream but NO SOUND came out!
I finally woke up and still had the feeling of Pins and Needles over my body. I've seen plenty of combat but that dream was the scariest to me!

Analyst
12/12/2019 10:15:09 am

Why do you suppose you assume people are thinking about your balls? Does that make for awkward conversations? "Now let me stop you right there because I know you're wondering about my balls and I'd like to properly address that."

Iskanander
12/12/2019 08:08:31 pm

Hi, "ME TOO!".

Are you saying that folks that experience "Sleep Paralysis" are all mentally ill.

That would be nearly half of the people in the world.

That's an awful lot of mentally ill people.

Iskanander
12/12/2019 10:58:57 pm

I had one of my most memorable "sleep paralysis" episodes in the military, too! I'll add it here as well, because: Hooah!, and also because it sort of reminds me of the "Greek-style" episode that J shares in the main post.

K. Again: many years ago, in a lifetime fa fa away:

So, it's very near to the end of my tour of duty. I'm about to ETS, and it's the winter before. Shonuff, we get called out at some 2:00 in the am on a Sunday morning because we are on DRF-whatever-the-fuck.

I always hated jumping out of aircraft. I was hoping there would be way less of that as I got close to leaving-time, and here we go again. So, it takes til daybreak to get all our shit together, so the sun is just coming up as we board our transportation to the "ramp". One of the reasons I remember this so well is because the memory is reinforced by the memory I have of realizing that morning how awesome the smell of diesel fuel is when an army is mobilized. There's nothing else like it. I remember telling myself to remember remembering it.

Okay, so we are all loading up. There's jeeps and deuce-and-a-halfs and all, but the majority of the combat team loads up on buses. I had collected all my shit, and I was set (STRAC). My job was easy, cuz I was the medic. We jump on the bus, I look straight to the back, and see there is this space under the back bench seat. I go straight for it, get underneath the bench, arrange my ruck and lay my head upon my Kevlar helmet. As usual, the gang is like, "Doc wants to sleep under there?" "We're good with that", "Don't annoy him".

I kinda remember the bus leaving post, but I'm sure I conked out as soon as we hit the main road and started traveling.

Here's how it went: I was suddenly standing in some Ancient "Grecian-style" temple, way up in the sky: flat space framed by columns on all sides. I get bad vertigo, and I could "feel" it up there, where I found myself. It was the panic-mode my body went in to that alerted me to the fact that I must be dreaming, but what happened next distracted me long enough to experience more.

There was a guy there, standing in the temple. He wore a long white pleated toga. He had curly longish white hair and a white beard. His presence commanded my full attention in the dream. I remember kind of thinking, "Finally after all these types of experiences, this experience will make sense of the whole batch".

Once he had my attention, he directed me, sort of "Vanna White"-like towards the side of the temple behind him. As he did so, a curtain parted and there was this great churning swarm of bright rainbow colors. Just a storm of a rainbow, accompanied by this deep, cyclical grinding sound, "Vreench!, vreench!, vreeeench!".

I awoke then. Pulled right out of the dream. I lay still for a while, because that was some strong, vivid shit, and I could hear the motor of the bus resonating from the floor of the bus through my Kevlar helmet, "Vreench!, vreench!, vreeeench!".

I got up and took a regular seat. No one seemed to notice. I was just in time for the bus driver, as he asked in broken English if anyone had any music for the bus' tape deck. I reached in my pocket and provided him with Trower's "Twice Removed from Yesterday", and we listened to that til he got us to the ramp.

That's my story. That's how I narrate it. Deep Dickwad, and his pals want to control the context within which we all, who experience this sort of thing, share our narratives. And if that happens, well, we're just left to suck tts&aas.

Don't let them do that. When posters bring up "mental illness" in relation to this subject, and especially if they start throwing around the dreaded word "consciousness"? Engage with them carefully.

Trust me. We all have "consciousness". It's not complicated. I have an aluminum baseball bat that you and I can utilize to prove it.

Have fun kids!

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Iskanander
12/13/2019 12:18:39 am

Twice Removed from Yesterday

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4irgHExOloM

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Tony C
12/13/2019 05:42:28 am

Thanks ISKANANDER, I enjoy reading what you have to say! I can relate to much of it,. I guess our subconscious tries to :make sense" of all the crap we go through. Retain what to remember, what to forget, fragmented dreams trying to understand any meaning if any at all from them.
Just think if a person was stuck in a coma but still able to have REM sleep nightmares, and your unable to move, scorpions; spiders; or whatever.....
I have no phobias, but just a thought!

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Helena
3/30/2020 11:28:57 pm

I'd had a similar experience 14 years ago, I was 16 and I will never forget it. It was real, not a dream, nor a sleeping paralysis (I know both to recognise the difference between them). It was scary as hell. The night after that experience, I happened to listen a local radio station, a programme where people were calling to talk about their life. At some point a man called sharing his experience of what he saw the night it happened to me - he said he saw UFO in a place app. 700m from my parent's house. That scared the shit out of me. I didn't see any signs or hieroglyphs, but I knew there were three entities in the room and they were doing something on my totally paralysed body. Imagine 10 tunes of iron on your body - that's how it was. There was no time - that was really clear - I was in a weird timeless space and couldn't tell how long it was - 20 minutes or fes seconds.

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