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Diana Pasulka Discusses "Invisible College," "Incredible" Jacques Vallée with Vox

6/7/2019

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​Earlier this week, Vox magazine’s Sean Illing spoke with Diana Pasulka, the author of American Cosmic, about space aliens and the threat that UFO beliefs are becoming a religion. In the conversation, Pasulka offered this gem of a response to a question about the so-called “Invisible College” of UFO researchers, whose activities have shaped ufology for the better part of the past four decades:
Diana Pasulka
The “Invisible College” is an old idea that comes from the 17th-century British philosopher Francis Bacon, and it was meant to describe the work of scientists that challenged contemporary beliefs of the church.
 
There were two incredible modern scientists, Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallée, who revived the idea. Hynek passed away in 1986, but he’s actually the star character in the History Channel’s show Project Blue Book. Vallée is still here, and he’s an astronomer and a computer scientist who worked on ARPANET, which was the military precursor to the internet.
 
Basically, Hynek and Vallée called themselves the “Invisible College” once they started to believe the things they were investigating were somehow either extraterrestrial or interdimensional. They were part of a group of scientists that were known to each other but were not known to the general public, and who quietly pursued this research on their own time.
 
Sean Illing
That sounds ... weird.
​I think it probably behooves us to note that Pasulka described Hynek and Vallée as “incredible” scientists, even though Hynek never managed to prove UFOs are a distinct and singular non-human intelligent phenomenon, Vallée has a long record of sloppy scholarship, and both men seriously entertained the idea that UFOs are demons or poltergeists haunting us from another dimension. You know, science! It’s also disconcerting that even in discussing the “science” of UFOs, the History Channel pops up like some angry fungus that sprouts on every rotten log.
 
But more to the point is that Pasulka left out key information about this “Invisible College.” Hynek and Vallée worked closely with Hal Puthoff, who for the past forty years has been closely involved with the U.S. government and with defense contractors and now To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science. Vallée himself reported in his Forbidden Science that Puthoff spent years worming his way into the Pentagon in order to convince the government to study demons and poltergeists in flying saucers. And he is still there. As a subcontractor for Robert Bigelow and now with To the Stars, Puthoff has exercised sizeable influence over the government’s UFO research, and he brought Vallée back into the mix by folding Vallée’s study of so-called “metamaterials” into his own efforts to prove that seeming pieces of industrial waste are really broken chunks of flying saucers.
 
The Invisible College of ufology isn’t invisible. It’s Hal Puthoff and his friends, celebrating four decades of pursuing extreme and seemingly nonsensical claims about supernatural UFOs.
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Kent
6/7/2019 09:19:15 am

A case of creating intrigue where none exists. Thanks Diana! Hynek and Vallee were hardly "unknown to the general public". I knew of Vallee as early as the late 1970s and no later than the early 80s.

Popular Science regularly published articles mentioning Hynek and Project Blue Book; I know because I read many of them in the 60s and early 70s. The earliest of which I am aware was in March 1967. A link to it is below:

https://books.google.com/books?id=4yADAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA78&dq=%22Popular+Science%22+%2B+%22Hynek%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAhrGeudfiAhUOr1kKHZJ6BoIQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=%22Popular%20Science%22%20%2B%20%22Hynek%22&f=false

John C. Lilly is supposed to have said "If you want to be an expert, invent the territory." I say "If you want to be a professor, invent an Invisible College."

We have one (at least) poster here who has done just that but as usual it's really just a Montessori of the Mind..

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iNVISIBLE COLLEGE
6/7/2019 10:19:11 am

The Invisible College was a precursor to the Royal Society that was all about learning, reason and logic - attributes not associated with UFO goofballs like Hynek and Vallee.

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Kent
6/7/2019 10:35:33 am

Say what you will but if you compared credentials and C.V. with Vallee you'd probably come up on the short end of the stick.

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INVISIBLE COLLEGE
6/7/2019 10:45:07 am

Can't you see that the goofballs have hijacked the term

Kent
6/7/2019 11:03:21 am

I can see fine, I just can't care.

INVISIBLE COLLEGE
6/7/2019 11:09:27 am

Well known fact that common sense and rationalism are not always connected with educational achievements.

Goofball authors are always rushing to get their PhDs in order to put that after their names on their book covers.

Kent
6/7/2019 11:43:30 am

No surprise that you got the timeline wrong.

BSc Mathematics (University of Paris) 1959
M.S. Astrophysics (University of Lille Nord de France) 1961
PhD Computer Science (Northwestern University) 1967

And that PhD is a great credential for a UFO researcher, right?

INVISIBLE COLLEGE
6/7/2019 11:51:57 am

Experts in mathematics must get the facts right all the time about sacred landscape geometry - right?

Kent
6/7/2019 11:54:48 am

You'll have to ask Anthony Warren about that. To me, you've become tiresome.

INVISIBLE COLLEGE
6/7/2019 12:03:15 pm

To me, you're just someone else who doesn't know how to think properly

Brian
6/8/2019 07:47:44 am

I would be shocked that these charlatans have been allowed to suck at the government teat for decades, until I remind myself that many of our legislators are religious maniacs who haven't seen an unbiased bit of news for 23 years, and while they'll joyfully and self-righteously deny funding for feeding or educating children, they are happy to shovel cash at frauds and mountebanks to investigate crystal-gazing and imaginary demons from outer space.

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The Government
6/8/2019 08:55:40 am

The Government doesn't know anything about putting things to the critical test. Someone noticed that the Russians were testing paranormal stuff and it automatically implied that the Americans should follow suit. Both the Government and Military are deemed to be our "peers" but in fact are nothing more than ignorant louts.

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Trevor Carter
9/11/2019 05:05:29 pm

You state that Vallee has a long history of "sloppy" scholarship. If you're going to critique someone's work you should at least mention a couple of references. I think Vallee has made it quite clear that he's not chasing aliens or demons. There is no answer to the unexplained UFO cases. The phenomenon is very complex.

I don't know if I would call Hynek or Vallee "incredible scientists", but I would call them true scientists. They didn't ignore the phenomenon, despite the criticisms of the topic from mainstream science. From what I can tell, Vallee has approached the subject as a true scientist by accepting all the data thrown at him, not just the data that fits a specific theory.

"The Invisible College of ufology isn’t invisible. It’s Hal Puthoff and his friends, celebrating four decades of pursuing extreme and seemingly nonsensical claims about supernatural UFOs."

One of the most prominent characteristics of the UFO phenomenon is its absurd nature (nonsensical). Anyone who has seriously studied the subject knows this. That doesn't mean the absurdities aren't worth looking at. On the contrary, they are probably one of the most important elements of the phenomenon.

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