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Disgusting: Josh Reeves's Vile Attack on Scott Wolter Uses and Abuses My Blog

2/18/2014

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Today I am going to go out on a limb and do something that will cause many of the people who regularly criticize me to get the vapors. I am going to defend Scott Wolter. Why, you may ask? What did he do right? Earlier this season Scott Wolter correctly concluded that the rock wall of Rockwall, Texas is in fact a clastic sandstone dyke, a completely natural feature, and not the work of lost giants from the Bible. Now one disgruntled investigator of forbidden truths is on a multimedia quest to “expose” Scott Wolter. The force behind an all-out multimedia assault on Scott Wolter is Josh Reeves, Global Reality radio host and a competitor of Scott Wolter’s in the field of North American prehistoric mysteries, including Templars, holy bloodlines, Freemasons, and above all else the Rockwall rock wall, his prized research centerpiece.

Reeves appeared last week on a radio show blasting Wolter for refusing to endorse his belief that the wall is the remnants of a lost race of biblical giants during the December episode on the rock wall. The woman he’s talking to, Erin Dakins of Truth Traveler, says she’s disgusted with Wolter and lost all respect for him for refusing to confirm the existence of the Nephilim in Texas. She describes his dismissal of evidence that “blew me away” as “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.”
Reeves asserts that Wolter ignored the evidence of artificiality in favor of a false claim of natural creation, part of a conspiracy. Reeves says he believes that the stones tested on the show for their magnetic orientation were not part of the rock wall and were placed there as part of a History Channel hoax. Reeves is correct, though, that Wolter wasn’t entirely forthcoming about the rock wall, wrongly calling the whole thing limestone based on a few small stones claimed to have come from the wall. The majority of the rock wall is sandstone. I think this is probably a production error (cutting a longer explanation, perhaps) rather one made by Wolter. I’ll defend Wolter here: Although the producers spun the episode out into ridiculous territory to avoid the obvious for as long as possible, Wolter correctly understood the geology of the site and reported the findings fairly. All of the geological evidence points to a natural formation.

However, this is a relatively sedate discussion compared to a previous video that Reeves made before the episode aired in December as part of a for-profit DVD called Lost Secrets of America, vol. 2. Let me remind you again: Josh Reeves is making money from the material you are about to see.
The clip appears to rely heavily on my own blog postings on the subject. I had nothing to do with this, and I am deeply saddened that my work has been twisted in this way.

Reeves complains that the excavation conducted for H2 (mistakenly called the History channel) did nothing more than to pull dirt from the 1999 excavation conducted on the rock wall, and he correctly points to many of the “cheats” used in the production to make the show seem more grandiose and original than it was. Reeves, who apparently is jealous of Scott Wolter, accuses Wolter and the History Channel of creating a “whitewash” (his words) to suppress the truth found in his earlier mail-order DVD, Lost Secrets of Ancient America, vol. 1. According to Reeves, History and Wolter had no interest in the rock wall until his video was released.

Reeves’s video rehashes material about the rock wall that was debunked as far back as the early twentieth century alongside more recent speculation; even the indefatigable Frank Joseph wrote about it in Ancient American before Reeves’s “exposé.” It’s all hilariously self-serving and self-promotional until it turns dark and disturbing. I am especially amused that Reeves rants about how Wolter failed to give him credit, all while reading from my blog post about Scott Wolter’s honorary master’s degree without giving me credit. Trust me, though, I don’t want anything to do with this DVD.

Here is where I will step in again to defend Wolter: Reeves is wrong that Wolter’s credentials as a geologist are based on the non-existent honorary master’s degree. He is and remains a licensed geologist (at least until he has to renew the license later this year), and he has completed all the required education and training needed for such a position. Reeves fails to understand that which he tries to criticize.

I will be looking forward to Steve St. Clair and Phil Gotsch taking Josh Reeves to task for the personal insults and invective he levels at Wolter’s character, across multiple media and for profit, including his claim that Wolter merely uses his geological credentials to make his fabricated conclusions seem credible. I expect both of them to shout until they are blue in the face about how Reeves is insulting and disparaging Scott Wolter in order to make money directly from these claims and raise his media profile.

(Disclosure: I do sell a collection of my America Unearthed reviews as a paperback and eBook. I sell them at just above the breakeven point, and any profit goes directly toward maintaining this website.)

Reeves seems to also be reading from my blog post about Wolter and Rock Wall, again without credit. He refers to information I gathered about Frank Joseph’s Lost Worlds of Ancient America (2012), in which Wolter’s work appears alongside an article on the rock wall, and how this undercuts Wolter’s claim to have never heard of the rock wall. In my later review, I claimed that Wolter had failed to review the books in which his own material is published; Reeves accused Wolter of outright lies and seems unaware that Joseph’s book was a collection of previously-published articles, not a work of newly-commissioned pieces. He therefore accuses Wolter of a level of dishonesty that the facts cannot support.

Reeves does worse: He accuses Scott Wolter of causing his father’s death. This is as low a personal blow as I can imagine, and it is disgusting, not to mention irrelevant. Wolter has written that he felt grief and guilt when his father drowned while the two were scuba diving in Australia: “The details of why he died are unclear to me to this day, but the fact is a diver is responsible for his partner’s safety and I lost him.” Wolter implies that he wished he had done more or did things differently; he did not say he killed his father. To use this as a weapon to attack a geological finding is beyond the pale.

He also accuses Wolter of “collaborating” with Frank Joseph, whom he describes as a “neo-Nazi” and “convicted child molester” (which he is). Wolter did not collaborate with Joseph. Joseph served as the editor of Lost Worlds, a collection of Ancient American articles published mostly after Joseph had retired from the magazine. The decision to entrust the collection to Joseph was almost certainly taken by Ancient American and not Scott Wolter. You can say what you want about me, but I have never accused Wolter or the H2 network of collaborating with Nazis, though I did criticize Wolter for his uncritical use of a pro-Nazi source in his latest book.

Reeves then tries to see America Unearthed as a tool of a corporate media controlled by, and I am not making this up, white supremacist Freemasons. He accuses the Hearst Corporation, 50% owner of A+E Networks, the parent of H2, of being a front for Freemasonry and Nazism. Reeves assumes, wrongly, that History has embraced sensationalism on orders from Hearst, famous for its yellow journalism in the 1890s. Hearst was not a 50% owner of A+E Networks until NBC sold its stake in the company as part of the complex deal involved with the Comcast takeover of NBC Universal in 2012. A+E Networks, though owned by Hearst, ABC, and (in the past) NBC, Radio City Music Hall (the Rockefellers!), and Radio Corporation of America (which is how NBC got a chunk of it), has remained functionally independent of its part owners.

Is America Unearthed yellow journalism? It’s sensationalism to be sure. But Reeves is an ignoramus of the first order. In the video he even confuses Erich von Däniken, ancient astronaut theorist, for the fictitious Erick Van Datiken, the parody of von Däniken who “writes” for the Weekly World News. Reeves seems to think von Däniken is a tabloid writer and that History employs him because of a Hearst-backed yellow journalism conspiracy.

Reeves further asserts that Disney is run by Freemasons and tied to Nazism (which I guess is why they cleverly used to have a Jewish CEO). He accuses Disney of producing the National Treasure movies as “disinformation” and sees America Unearthed as an extension of the same, even though production documents make clear that the program emerged organically from producer Maria Awes’s professional relationship with Scott Wolter and both her and Wolter’s deep-seated belief in fringe history theories.

I invite A+E Networks and Scott Wolter to have the courage of their convictions and take legal action against Reeves for using their material without permission and for libel. Surely this is a far graver legal issue than the concern over whether Scott Wolter owned the letter X when it has a hook on it, which prompted the network to threaten me with a lawsuit. Reeves is actively trying to make money by accusing Wolter and his corporate partners of Nazism and fraud.

“Scott Wolter and America Unearthed are a disinformation vehicle,” Reeves says, “for high level Masonic interests and wish to keep these secrets from the public and keep the real truth of America’s history quietly buried under human progress.”

I would pay to see Reeves and Wolter argue over which one of them is the truest believer and which is the biggest hero exposing the “truth.” Templars vs. Bible Giants: The ultimate fringe history showdown! Seriously, though: This is a classic conspiracy claim, that the incompetent investigator is actually a stooge intentionally making the truth look ridiculous so no one will believe it.

Now I’d like someone to explain to me why my blog warrants legal action, coordinated attacks, and daily monitoring by Wolter supporters yet Reeves’s insane anti-Wolter rants, including outright lies and disgusting personal attacks—which he sells for a profit!—warrant nary a peep. The next time someone wants to accuse me of being too mean to Scott Wolter, remember Reeves’s video. That’s what being mean actually looks like.

105 Comments
Clint Knapp
2/18/2014 05:30:45 am

Reeves was on the February 8th Coast to Coast speaking in general about his new DVD. He started the night with Rockwall, and for the most part rambled off a repeating chain of key-phrases about the wall's length and composition, including claiming the stones were "buttered with a strange crystal material" and speculation about the piezoelectric response and a connection to UFOs that we hear repeated about just about every stone structure.

Delivered in Reeves' quick-paced, ever-shifting narrative style it was almost impossible to stop and dissect any specific claim, and the host of the night, Rob Simone, was particularly un-stimulating.

Reeves claims right around the 57-minute mark that he had heard from several individuals who contacted the History Channel that they "didn't seem interested" and that then "a couple weeks after Lost Secrets of Ancient America vol. 1 came out they were all of a sudden very interested" and complains the show couldn't break through the shale to the wall in a week.

He complains about pulling the dirt off the old excavation and that the mineralogical data of the wall was not included- citing the limestone reference you point to above- and then quoting Bud Shelton's 1999 report (which even Reeves acknowledges concludes the wall is natural) to say that the quartz content of the "mortar" makes paleomagnetic dating impossible.

The Rockwall segment dies with a commercial break and Reeves declaring "their entire explanation of this thing is a complete hoax".

It sounded at the time that he had a bit of a bone to pick with the show, but Scott Wolter and America Unearthed were never mentioned by name.

Reeves claimed Rockwall was what got him started on his whole career investigating these mysteries after reading about it in a Jim Marrs book, so i assumed at the time his desire to reject the natural clastic dyke explanation was just a bit of pet-theory protection. It's rather sad to see he later felt he had to sink to much further depths.

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:01:08 pm

Uh I follow Josh and have been for years! This entire blog is pretty much slander him and his work. Scott was not even on his radar till the show was pitched.

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Thom
2/20/2014 02:07:49 am

Ummm.what.

El Snarko
2/20/2014 06:59:30 am

Hi Jason!

I'm glad you found this blog. If you will read it regularly you can learn a lot about the false information that lots of people are peddling.

I don't think you you understand the meaning of the word slander.

"The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation."

The key here is "false spoken statement."

"Libel, on the other hand, is the written "publication" of a defamatory remark that has the tendency to injure another's reputation or character. Libel also includes a publication on radio, audio or video."

It makes more sense to accuse Jason Colavito of libel since you didn't hear him actually say anything.

Brent
2/18/2014 05:47:16 am

I was going to go to Josh Reeve's site and investigate further, but then I realized that would partly fulfill his probable agenda of provoking website hits.

So I'm content just to allow ignorance to be bliss (for once) on this one.

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:02:54 pm

He makes no money on his films. And i find your lack of not seeking knowledge just because this guy writes an article pretty ironic!

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Sir Snarkalot
2/20/2014 07:06:31 am

I don't think you understand the meaning of ironic.

Ironic means using words that mean the opposite of what you really think especially in order to be funny.

How is Brent's statement ironic? It appears to be what he thinks and isn't funny.

The Imperial Snark of the Invisible Empire
2/20/2014 07:19:08 am

Josh Reeves does in fact charge for his videos. Whether he makes a profit on them is irrelevant to this discussion.

Only Me
2/18/2014 06:42:35 am

This Reeves is the lowest of the low. Accusing Scott of killing his own father shows how loathsome of a maggot he truly is. Then to use your work as further ammunition, shows the depths he's willing to go to act on a perceived slight.

All of this to defend his brand of lunacy. Scott, however you choose to do it, kick his...well, you know.

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:04:43 pm

So I a fan a Josh have to defend him a little...he never said that. He said Scott feels remorseful!

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
2/18/2014 07:21:33 am

I had never heard of that guy, Reeves, until this blog post (above) …

Yup, he is obviously so far OFF the fringe, his stuff is beyond any reasonable characterization ...

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:05:53 pm

Ignore the facts as you will his does his research which you yourself can check.

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Comrade Snarkovitch
2/20/2014 07:24:26 am

Jason Colavito did "check" as you recommend and determined that Josh copied his work

Nikola T.
4/12/2014 01:25:22 am

Hey Reverend, If you never heard of him, how would you know ? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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Dan
2/18/2014 07:42:09 am

Based on the youtube comments that follow his video, I would not be surprised if a bunch of complete wackos come in here to defend Reeves. And they won't just be a troll (Rev) or a gadfly (Steve) but they're going to be downright violently nasty.
I'm not so sure you want to wade into this cesspool Jason, just to prove to the Wolterians that you're not a bad guy.

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Jason Colavito link
2/18/2014 08:02:41 am

I was more upset that this Reeves fellow is using my material as ammunition for his outrageous ideas. I felt that warranted at least a notice that I have nothing to do with the person twisting my blog posts into something awful.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
2/18/2014 09:00:26 am

As my friend and colleague, Scott Wolter, knows very well by now, anyone who is *out*THERE*in*public* can and will be used by others for their own purposes ...

Mandalore
2/18/2014 11:42:47 am

Subtle.

Jason
2/19/2014 08:09:02 pm

He is not using your Ideas he has been making movies way before you came on the map Jason this entire post is an attack on Josh.

Snakowicz
2/20/2014 07:29:39 am

Please defend the statement "he (Josh Reeves)has been making movies way before you (Jason Colavito)came on the map.

Please provide documentary evidence of when Josh Reeves began making movies.

Martin R
2/18/2014 07:50:12 am

The stuff about SW's father is more than a little disconcerting. Other than that, I say let them fire conspiracy theories at 20 paces.

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Tara Jordan link
2/18/2014 08:19:34 am

I was expecting nothing less from you,Jason.We have the right to harshly criticize Scott Wolter,but we also have to be fair & honest.Accusing Scott Wolter of "causing his father’s death" is utterly disgusting.This type of accusation has no place in rational discussion.Josh Reeves is professional bottom feeder.
Crossing the Nausea Threshold with Josh Reeves & his Global Reality dot com,sounds from the colostomy bag.....

PS.Who is Erin "Close encounter with the deranged kind" Dakins?.She sounds & looks like the typical post menopausal fruitcake.

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:07:36 pm

So this is trolls come to die! Josh did nothing of the sort and got the info on Scott for this sites as he references in his move.

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The Snarkster
2/20/2014 07:15:19 am

I don't think you understand the word Troll.

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Based on the common usage of the word troll, it appears that you are in fact the troll.

Did you come here to die?

A.D.
2/18/2014 11:47:27 am

lol The owner of that channel from the first video is a racist dirtbag.This is just more proof to me that the people who believe in these garbage shows are racist themselves.

on his re-uploaded video on "white gods"

"I encourage everyone to NOT allow racists and politically correct types to misrepresent history, as it is absolutely TRUE that most major South American and some North American cultures said that their so called "gods" were BEARDED WHITE MEN / LIGHT SKINNED BEARDS. This obviously does NOT mean they were real "gods" but leftover Nephilim, tyrannical rulers, and that sort of concept is more along the lines of what they truly were. NOT all of them seem to have been tyrants, as in North America the native legends of the "bearded giants" warring against one other due to evil groups are prevalent stories throughout much native oral history. It is also tremendously important to remember that these were NOT real "gods" and Nazi lore about Atlantis and the so called "master race of light skinned giants" was TRUE to a certain extent, BUT the propaganda lines attached to that are about supremacy, tyrannical rule, military obsessions, rituals, etc.... ****Also note that there is a debate as to whether or not Spanish chroniclers during the conquest were actually talking about Tiwanaku or the nearby site of Puma Punku when they recorded that Inca natives told them that "gods" built it long before their time"

on the nazca mummies from the chauchia desert

"These are clearly European mummies, the hair and DNA tests on them are indisputable. Do NOT ever wonder why these are in a desert, rather than inside of museums where the really belong, it is because hardly any museums will hold artifacts that destroy their cherished paradigms, such as saying the garbage that Columbus was the first European in the Americas. Also, check out the art from the walls of the Temple of the Warriors at Chichen Itza, it clearly shows whites being sacrificed !"

"A lot of RED haired mummies were found here also, more evidence to go with the DNA tests from the Chachapoyas, which clearly prove them to have been of Caucasian descent. Bullshit Indian political endorsed "history" is on the way out the door and has been for quite some time now !"

on his video making the aztecs savages and reassigning their architectural structures and culture

777RealHistory7774

"Their artwork alone proves EVERY word spoken here, so you can NOT lie about what these SAVAGE ANIMALS were actually doing. They did NOT build even 10 % of what they are credited with either. Some history is covered up and other portions are not, it is just a matter of what you are looking at. Aztecs, earlier Mayans and sacrifice addicted animals like that are why so many Indians still to this day are looked at like human savages in the flesh. They NEVER built the monuments nor invented the astronomy they are credited with. They knew about star progressions that take tens of thousands of years to complete, they had to get info. like that from EARLIER peoples."


"Oh and the REAL official histories are from artwork, texts, artifacts, etc.... NOT from teachers and universities. You sound like a typical talk radio fan with NO real degrees or credentials, you can NOT just blow off a culture's artwork and texts because Giorgio Tskoulas said they might be ancient aliens."


tenthsndyearsgoingon3


"well my point is that i think this history in movies like apocalypto are bullshit to make native peoples look like savages which would further back the european invaders of ancient culture"

777RealHistory7774

"Apocalypto was REAL partner, there is NOTHING fake in that movie except the script itself, the burial pits with THOUSANDS of BUTCHERED HUMAN REMAINS have been found. There is a famous sayote (jungle sink hole) at Chichen Itza, that has a direct road connecting it to the main pyramid, the bodies were taken to the sink hole after sacrifice. These sink holes are said by jungle natives to be the most haunted areas in their entire lands. Also, the acting in that movie comes from REAL artwork, they went in order, one glyph after another. With that being said, Mel Gibson is still a Catholic, so maybe he was trying to defend the evil his church did."

I've looked at his feedback and saw tha he has allied himself with a youtube "MarchOfTheTitans",obviously a neo nazi.That book was written by eurocentric racist neo nazi Arhtur Kemp.

Just reinforces again what I had suspected all along about these type of creeps and their garbage ideas.

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:11:56 pm

His work has nothing to do with race! Its about history I know the guy and am black.

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A.D.
2/20/2014 05:51:29 am

More like history distortion and delusions.There are blacks racist ,so your point?

Ever heard of the Nation of Islam,Black Hebrew Israelites.,"moors", afrocentrism and other black racist occultist?

Most of them are into this conspiracy theory crap and are constantly attacking native americas trying to rob them of their identity and history.You're part of the problem as well.

A.D.
2/20/2014 05:57:41 am

And they have massive cult followings and are putting out propaganda.I'm sure you're one of them.
Dwight York got over a hundred years in prison lmao!

A.D.
2/18/2014 11:56:55 am

Ancient America - This is How ESTABLISHMENT PRODUCTIONS HIDE VERY REAL INFO. & DISCOVERIES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dovs6iKWAE4

"Forget about the SAME massive solar aligned mound constructions in various lands, forget about the FOREIGN DNA and skeleton finds, forget about the SAME language scripts in various lands, forget about the SAME type of artistic artifacts, and MANY more similarities all around the globe with ancient America. That is what these establishment produced JOKES called "mainstream documentaries" want you to do. Many of these productions are nothing more than mainstream, establishment produced, PROPAGANDA HIT PIECES that attack REAL credible discoveries. The point of posting is to show how this type of mainstream production is used to deceive and distract people away from looking any further into the matter. The Smithsonian, PBS networks, National Geographic, and a host of other systematically created academic dictatorships CONTROL and LIE about very real and valid information. It really is that simple to a certain extent. ***Note this is clipped from a PBS Odyssey episode.***"


GIANT Mayan Tomb of Inscriptions / Pacal Tomb - VERY LARGE Royal Family Skeletons & NOT NATIVES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aH9oZfLwUc

"***Note that this is used under the FAIR USE ACT for educational and research purposes ONLY.**** Rick Osmon (author of "Graves of the Golden Bear") explains what was REALLY discovered during the original historical 1948 excavation of the Mayan Tomb of Inscriptions, or as it is better known "Pacal's tomb." Pacal was a Mayan king that probable con job Erik Von Daniken said was using a space rocket on his world famous megalithic tomb lid. That is REAL ancient machinery more than likely, but seems to be much more of a construction mechanism, it is NOT a space rocket for sure. ;) After all, they had to build these mind boggling monuments with MUCH more than just their bare hands, so construction machines do make perfect sense. Note also that these are said to have been LARGER than normal skeletal remains and NOT Native Americans as we know them, more like European / Asiatic looking burial remains. The steps of this enormous pyramid tomb are 22 inches apart all the way from bottom to top ! NO WAY that was made for "normal" sized people ! "

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An Over-Educated Grunt
2/18/2014 12:15:15 pm

This rings false. Nothing specific that you said is wrong, but there's a difference between criticizing this guy and defending Wolter, and coming across as "Behold, I am wronged!" The entire thing would have been better off without chest-beating or references to how you hope Steve St. Clair or Phil Gotsch decide to jump down this guy's throat too, and the blog heading would have been much more effective without any of the words after "Scott Wolter." I've no use for either of those two, or this guy Reeves, but this post comes across less as criticism of him, and more a litany of your own injuries.

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Jason Colavito link
2/18/2014 12:19:30 pm

Well, yes, it serves more than one purpose. I am in fact tired of being repeatedly criticized as some obsessed lunatic while the people who produce truly vile material go on their merry way. If it encourages my critics to apply themselves with equal vigor to more appropriate venues, then it will serve its purpose.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
2/18/2014 12:42:01 pm

Problem is, neither of the two you named would lift a finger on a cause you brought to their attention, because it's you. I personally think, for what little that's worth, that you do an admirable job most days with Kipling's line about having your words twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools. I also understand being frustrated with both the return fire you get, and the low quality of what you're working against. Just this one time I think the frustration bled through too much.

Jason Colavito link
2/18/2014 12:46:36 pm

I am, alas, but only human and on occasion do have emotions and opinions unrelated to the facts of archaeology.

An Over-Educated Grunt
2/18/2014 12:53:19 pm

Of course. One of these days I may actually use the E-mail feature of your site, let my feelings about one of your critics out properly. I've actually discarded three or four replies to him today alone, and it's not even my blog.

Jason Colavito link
2/18/2014 12:57:55 pm

The fact of the matter is that most days I have between 60 and 90 minutes to compose and post a blog entry. They aren't always my most considered work, and if I had more time I might say things differently or reconsider some of the material. I've been trying to work a bit ahead to give myself a little more time to review material before posting it, but it doesn't always work out that way.

Tara Jordan link
2/18/2014 01:25:55 pm

An Over-Educated Grunt.
"Problem is, neither of the two you named would lift a finger on a cause you brought to their attention, because it's you".

I love reading your comments,An Over-Educated Grunt,You are always on target & unlike many of us,& in spite of your cynicism,you never cross the line.You are one of the smartest regulars on this blog.

Personally,I respect Jason because
1)He has integrity
2)Intellectually honest
3)He doesn't belong to the debunking community (I despise these nombrilistic self absorbed sanctimonious egomaniacs as much as I hate the "fringies.As social groups,they more than often display the same pathological behaviors")
4) As far as I am aware,Jason doesn't have a particular agenda.He does his thing "contre vents et marées".

An Over-Educated Grunt
2/19/2014 02:05:27 am

Tara -

Oh, I've crossed the line before. My earliest comments on here pretty quickly degenerated from "keep up the good work," which was why I had posted to begin with (it was a period where there were a lot of new faces in the comments, and most of what they had to say was pretty useless), into some of the nastiest mud-slinging I've done in years. I'm still here because I decided any monkey could fling his turd and run, and I didn't want to be any monkey.

I'm here because, as I see it, one side in this argument has a habit of going back and revising their words when they've been shown wrong, or new evidence comes to light, and the other side thinks that they're Right with a capital R, never mind what the evidence says.

Tara Jordan link
2/19/2014 03:53:24 am

An Over-Educated Grunt.
Fair enough,but I cannot possibly blame you for crossing the line;),as I am an equal opportunity offender.To his credit,Jason demonstrated a lot of patience with me.I personally crossed the line on many occasions,including with Jason.But this is the beauty of this blog,& the reason I respect him (although I do not necessarily agree with him on everything).Jason provides a platform for freedom of expression & on top of it,he accepts criticisms.

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CHV
2/20/2014 05:23:12 am

I would consider Jason Colavito's commentaries on Wolter to be the product of a crank if he failed to produce any valid counter-evidence debunking SW's claims. In this respect, SW is often his own worst enemy.

As for Reeves, I classify his material alongside those of uber-Christians who claim that dinosaur fossils were planted in the Earth by Satan to shake the Christian faith. In other words, it's not worth acknowledging.

Wingnut
4/12/2014 01:36:29 am

Two thumbs up to you Over-Educated Grunt. The attack mentality of this site totally discredits it.

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Snarky Snarkerson
2/18/2014 01:01:41 pm

I listened to two videos of Josh Reeves put up on youtube by 777RealHistory777.

Josh is quite unhappy that his recent appearance on Coast to Coast AM didn't help sell many copies of his latest video. He was on Coast to Coast AM on the first Saturday night after regular Saturday night host John B. Wells was fired or quit the show (I'm not sure exactly what happened).

"I don't want to say it was intentional but there is a part of me that feels it was intentional to put me on a slot when people are boycotting over the firing of Wells."

He called the host on his Saturday appearance, Rob Simone, a clown. He also called John B. Wells a hack. He is unhappy that he wasn't allowed to plug his videos and web page enough.

"I am on the cusp of exposing a lot of things that could blow the whole spectrum of this information wide open."

"Coast to Coast AM claims to have all these millions of listeners, hundreds of thousands of listeners, 500 something stations, millions and millions of listeners and yet I get a response from my show that's less than shows I go on that have maybe 50 or a hundred listeners. How's that possible? I've thought for a long time, I think Alex Jones lies about his numbers. I think all these networks, I think it's all based on BS."

"You get the opportunity to go on what is the biggest platform for this and then it seems like all the forces range against you to sabotage anything that you're doing."

"Don't forget I got a platform and you piss me off and I'll go and tell everything I know on every single one of you all."

In just a few minutes Josh has managed to alienate the largest alternative radio program, Coast to Coast AM, Alex Jones, Rob Simone and John B. Wells.

How's that for reporting on a subject without being snarky?

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yakko
2/18/2014 03:51:30 pm

Oh, there it goes again: "Everyone's a heretic except me and thee, and sometimes I'm not so sure about THEE!"

I especially like the part that translates as: "If you make me cry again, I'm going to go tell on ALL OF YOU!" I don't know about anyone else, but that would sure fix MY little red wagon!

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Snarkmeister Snarkee
2/18/2014 04:25:50 pm

Exactly. He seems to believe that he has a loyal following who will support him him so he can continue to expose all the frauds in academia and alternative history/archaeology.

Clint Knapp
2/18/2014 04:02:34 pm

Maybe if he'd slowed down and taken time to administer just ONE well-argued story instead of rattling off as quickly as he could and repeating himself more than once more people might have paid attention. Might have helped if he had actually presented anything that wasn't seen in this season of AU or already covered by a dozen other guests this year alone.

I try to avoid the whole listener crowd in general, so I haven't heard anything of this boycott he refers to or any of the reasons Wells was released beyond George Noory's little statement the night he announced it and said John had "gone on to fulfill his dream and started an internet radio show", but I can at least agree Rob Simone wasn't the most engaging host that night. Maybe if Reeves had slowed down and given him a chance to actually say anything, though...

I listened to that whole show, and a good half of it this morning while writing my earlier comment just to get the Rockwall argument straight as he presented it. The man plugged his DVD plenty of times. Even in the discussion of AU's "hoaxing" of their results he says he goes into the story more in-depth on the DVD. It was almost his default statement every time he had to stop and move on to a different subject.

Why should anyone buy his DVD when they can watch AU for the price of their regular cable bill or listen to Coast to Coast three times a week and get all the same material for free? It's almost as laughable an idea as paying Jason Martell to repeat Ancient Aliens claims on his webcam.

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The Snark-o-matic
2/18/2014 04:18:13 pm

In the same videos mentioned above Josh said that Rob Simone told him to slow down during the breaks. He expressed his anger at that suggestion and said that was his style.

Clint Knapp
2/18/2014 04:37:08 pm

Well, that makes sense. The faster one can ramble through something, the lower the chance of someone stopping stopping and calling you out on a detail.

It does reinforce the no-one-to-blame-but-yourself idea, though. C2C guys know their audience. You can't just babble nonstop at them and expect everyone to come flocking to your side. Even the more impressionable listeners need a slower-pace, more cohesive narrative.

Jason
2/19/2014 08:15:28 pm

Well you did not pay attention!
John was fired and the new host did not like Josh's style. He was telling him things off air which pretty much pissed him off by the end of the show.

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Snarkanoids from the Deep
2/20/2014 07:38:45 am

Jason you don't know that John B. Wells was fired (terminated for cause). He has stated that he left the show and didn't say why. Josh assumed he was fired.

Remember, when you ASSUME you make an ASS out of U and ME. Well in this case you just make an ASS out of U!

Walt
2/18/2014 05:32:22 pm

I think you'll find that this guy won't get the same attention that you do for the same reason your AA blogs don't get as many comments and defenders as AU blogs. AA is "out there" while AU is a believable story, usually.

Personally, I've given up here. I'm not a fan of Wolter and can't think of one of his theories I ended up believing, but I'm also not a fan of your's so I see both sides. The background section of your reviews is very professional, while the coverage of the episode itself is much less so, and the comments even less so.

Everyone here is so extremely politically-correct that I consider them racist in the opposite direction of normal racism, if that even makes any sense. This is just a very angry, hateful place where people still see race everywhere they look, and don't even realize there's something wrong with that.

But, I've never felt you were unnecessarily "mean" to Wolter. I've thought you could've done a better job of not being personally offended by him and staying above it all, but he brings it all on himself by implying academia is wrong about everything.

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Tara Jordan link
2/18/2014 09:16:39 pm

"Everyone here is so extremely politically-correct that I consider them racist in the opposite direction of normal racism, if that even makes any sense. This is just a very angry, hateful place where people still see race everywhere they look, and don't even realize there's something wrong with that."

With all due respect,Walt,what makes you think you know about my "political correctness"?.Have you ever met me personally,talk to me?.As a matter of fact,you have no idea about my political orientation.If you consider yourself as an iconoclast,I respectfully suggest you to "try me",you might be surprised.I have no taboo at all.

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Walt
2/19/2014 02:17:13 am

I shouldn't have used the word "everyone" and I apologize for lumping you, and others, in with that group. In reality, it's a small minority of people here who are like that, but they're also the ones who are the most ardent supporters of Jason.

I'm looking forward to your analysis of the science in Scott's books, assuming that was you commenting on his blog. I thought you engaged him in a constructive way that could actually do some good.

WellGwhiz
2/19/2014 01:30:33 am

I thought about all that, to. You know, it just seem like how ever way to much baiting around race matters here. I mean ALWAYS! I'm think maybe next time, not so much. Then, POW!, more of some thing that whitey did bad in the past part of history.

Really? Well, I see now for sure, (one more time), that he can't stay apart from all that race. This is for a race blog, rigtht? To see what white man did over and over, all the way back until we see no white man in sight, going back. Finally, no white racism.

But now, here I see Jason is fixed. Why? Is Italian not white enough? So, he want to be more white, or no? I cannot don't understandt. Whose guilt is it for, for him or mostly just other white people?? We always see the shame for the white man here, by the white man, He points the white finger at whitey to stir up the melting pot for faster result....maybe? Maybe to much pot spoiled that cook! Hey! Throw Wolter Scot in there, to!

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Walt
2/19/2014 02:34:19 am

My problem isn't with pointing out examples of racism, where it clearly existed. We don't want to be doomed to repeating it. Everyone should be treated equally, and by everyone, not just by governments.

But, here, every group is a victim of everything. Virtually every episode of AU that's not about secret societies, the Mayans coming to Georgia, the Aztecs coming to or going from North America , Europeans coming to North America, can be seen as insensitive to a race or ethnic group if you look at it "right".

Amanda
2/19/2014 03:01:10 am

I can't agree that it's race-baiting, but there is a lot of discussion about race here. However, given the nature of some of the claims, (like, an indigenous population was "given" their culture by outsiders from a different race) you can't really ignore the race angle. Especially given the racial tensions in the US right now. That we're talking about this is a GOOD thing. At least there is discussion. Of course there will be dissent and of course there will be extreme reactions on both sides.

Because the nature of AU's claims deals with race, then literature and discussion surrounding AU is going to have to deal with race. If anybody can be argued to be obsessed with race, it has to be the people responsible for the AU show.

BTW - it's not political correctness that motivates some of our posts. It's more of a sense of right and wrong. Personally I think it's wrong to deny indigenous or first peoples their rightful accomplishments by saying an invading or conquering culture taught them everything that defines them. Saying that is motivated not by a desire to be PC, but rather a genuine sense of "that's just wrong!" (And of course my personal belief that there is simply not enough evidence to justify such a claim.)

Clint Knapp
2/19/2014 03:25:07 am

Is that the fault of the blog host and the commenters, though, or is it the fault of the show being criticized for purposely promoting outdated and often dis-proven ideas which frequently have strong racially-driven cores behind their creation?

So often the race-baiting argument is thrown around, and then suddenly everyone who disagrees with it is labeled as too-PC or a bleeding-heart, or harboring white guilt, but labeling them so only puts one right down in the mud next to them. Perhaps even a little deeper, as at that point one has stooped to name calling, thus making what may have been an intellectual debate into a personal one.

Yes, often the source of the things discussed here that are shown to have racially-motivated origins do come down to being white supremacy at their roots, but one cannot simply throw a label on anyone discussing these origins without taking a step back and examining why that is.

America Unearthed and the claims covered by this blog beyond it are decidedly focused on a continent where largely white European settlers began a very serious and bloody effort to wrest control from the previous dominant cultures at the end of the 15th century. This is historical fact. It is also a fact that ever since that expansion began men have sought to justify these actions in various ways that were meant to demean and denigrate the previous occupants, their cultures, and their achievements in order to make them something less than human.

These ideas persist today in the fringe culture, and though the reasons for using them may no longer be racially motivated the fact still remains that they would not exist if it were not for those original purposes. That is why Jason points them out, and that is why most of the commenters here who are upset by their continued spread across media into national television (and worse, schools).

If the focus of these stories was China and the oppressed culture were Tibetans or Vietnamese, for which there are surely just as many fictitious justifications spun that we simply don't hear about because it's not in our hemisphere would it still be race baiting to point out these motivations? Would you still claim white-guilt if Jason gave the exact same amount of coverage- which he surely would if it were being aired on national television or sold in bookstores nationwide in the US?

If there's anything to be tired of in these comment threads, it's the name calling and the crying-wolf over race-baiting and obsessions. The man's reviewing the claims as they appear and illustrating their sources with the intent to educate and provoke a more critical approach to what one chooses to accept as true. If he occasionally does a post about something that directly impacts or refers to his own work or character, that's his choice and obligation in the interest of journalistic transparency and integrity.

Laetitia
2/19/2014 03:29:29 am

Gunn, are you posting under a 'new' name? The only person I've seen on this blog commenting on Jason's Italian heritage was Gunn...and now someone with a "G" in the middle of the pseudonym is also harping on Jason's Italian ancestry. I hope that Jason can clear this up.

If I am mistaken, I will apologize in advance.

Brent
2/19/2014 03:44:22 am

There's a difference between race baiting and context. In a lot of these cases, it just so happens that the context of many subjects is old documents that are race-based or clearly have a racial goal in mind.

If the programs (not always but often) are based off of racist documents, then you can't even analyze that program without addressing the race issue.

It's no fault of Jason (or any of us) that a lot of the episodes are all "it says in this book from the 1800s...but it was written by racists who wanted to prove that Whites were here first/more advanced, etc."

How would you even address something like that without bringing up the context of proving White superiority in which a document was written?

Most of the time, it just can't be ignored. The programs choose their foundational documents, not us.

You can call it race-baiting when everyone starts talking abour Race when discussing and episode that bases its argument off of a US geological survey instead of racist documents from the 19th century, etc.

WellGwhiz
2/19/2014 05:41:45 am

Laetitia, well this is a new name. Who are you? Sure, I know Gunn. He is in minnesota here with me, minding his own business. Sure, hi over there Gunn! I saw before how Jason got mad about being only half of the Italian. Why? Whats that problem about....some thing about irritating whitey. I don't know, go ask him. Maybe some thing about not being more related to that Chis.Columbo? Go ahead, you can laugh, to. ha!

Walt
2/19/2014 06:11:17 am

But, Amanda, AU doesn't intend to deal with race at all. I truly believe that the background information Jason provides about these theories is way more information than Scott and the show's producers were aware of when it was produced. You can say what you want about their ability to research and produce a documentary.

Jason is a big proponent of the idea that occasionally the same thing is invented in multiple places independently of each other. Is it then appropriate to discuss those inventions in the same context when one has nothing to do with the other?

In the case of AU, I get the impression the theories are presented without any awareness of their 200 year old racist origins. Some latch onto those theories because they support their racist ideas, but AU latches onto those same theories because they support their belief that academia is always wrong. One has nothing to do with the other and I believe AU isn't even aware of the former.

I actually find the history of these theories interesting, but I watch the show, and racist ideas have absolutely nothing to do with it. The show is anti-academic, and that's what everyone should associate with them, not racism.

Jason Colavito link
2/19/2014 06:14:14 am

It is the lack of awareness that's part of the problem, Walt. How can you critically evaluate an interpretation of history without knowing where it came from? Interpretation being subjective, the perspective and biases of the originator are important for evaluating it. It would be like trying to understand Eric Hobsbawm's view of history without realizing he was a Marxist.

Walt
2/19/2014 07:00:55 am

I agree their apparent lack of awareness is a problem. Ideally, they would've researched these things enough to address the issues during the show if they really didn't intend to be quietly supporting racist ideas. But, by them not addressing it, I see a lack of awareness rather than them quietly supporting racism, like others here see.

Jason D.
2/21/2014 02:56:41 pm

WellGWhiz, I too am "half of the Italian" maybe I'm the other half of Jason's Italian (we share the same first name) or maybe I'm half of another Italian. I don't know, nor do I understand how it's relevant.

As to the issue to the lack of research, America Unearthed, while limited to an hour (less after commercials) could very well fit in a lot more content if they chose to. They could spend a lot less time re-hashing and reviewing as well as needless digressions to show Wolter in special locations, gear, etc.

Tara Jordan link
2/19/2014 03:43:52 am

Walt,no need to apologize,no harm was done.In fact I do agree with you but you have to understand that some of Jason`s followers are natural born "Lefties",they are particularly incline to see racism everywhere;).I had such experience in the past with a couple of individuals (they called me antisemitic).This is precisely the reason why I refrain from talking politics.

As far as Jason goes,personally I don't have the impression he is focused or has a fixation on racism/race baiting.I think he tries to draw correlations between particular underlying themes in alternative history, with political ideologies.But there is a positive side to this issue,if you have disagreement, you have the opportunity to express it on this very blog.I hope you`ll stick around,we need more participants.As you may have noticed,we amongst the regulars,often disagree with each other.We all have strong opinions & eventually we clash.This type of cyber interaction also has positive effects on our personal lives,we learn to disagree,listen to others,& therefore maintain a certain harmony in coexistence.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
2/19/2014 07:13:36 am

Tara Jordan --

"We Reach … !!!" -- that Hippie guy, to "Spock," in that old Star Trek episode …

I also treasure and seek "a certain harmony in coexistence …"

For now, I will NOT order Smithers to release the dogs ...

Walt
2/19/2014 07:15:50 am

Tara, I definitely didn't want to talk politics when I brought up "politically-correct". I'm probably left of left, politically, but that doesn't include sensitivity and seeing victims everywhere I guess.

I've never used the phrase "race-baiting" either. I think Jason does a pretty good job of keeping the racism in the background section where it's completely appropriate. But, somehow, the overall sentiment here is that AU is focused on race. In reality, I don't think that's something they even consider, even if they should.

Pacal
2/19/2014 05:06:04 am

I don't find people here particularily "politically correct". But then complaining about "political correctness" has been "politically correct" for the last 20+ years. My eyes glaze over when I hear the phrase.

Jason has in my opinion been rather careful in his discussion of the racist vibe that exists in much of this regurgitated 19th century diffusionistic hooy. Certainly a great deal of the intellectual origin of this stuff is in fact good old fashioned 19th century racism.

I like Jason do not think that Wolter is a racist, merely that he resurrecting ideas that have racist origins.

Like most of the other people who comment here what really offends me isn't that but the misuse of "evidence" and the truly bad science of Wolter. Compared to that the racist vibe in Wolter's stuff is small potatoes in my opinion.

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Byron DeLear link
2/19/2014 08:46:01 am

“Political correctness” --- the term does deserve some reflection. In politics, what you do and say is “fair game” to be criticized and used against you in the court of world opinion. Politics is groups of people making decisions. If the collective communal society at large has evolved to vilify certain memes, some racial, in an attempt to right past injustices, the individual who adheres to those tired and often discriminatory modes of expression deserves the wrath of the new politic. Also, I’ve found people that cry foul at “political correctness” or decry its overuse are often lacking in curiosity about the world and its peoples to the point of lazily protecting obsolete paradigms of the past that the zeitgeist now declares repugnant. As Stephen Pinker has said, people used to cackle hilariously at the sight of a burning cat on a rope, it was simply entertainment. But now this act would be roundly condemned in modernity as senseless, cruel, amoral. It’s not politically correct anymore to burn cats with their tail tied to a rope. Being tone-deaf to gender, classist and racial power and privilege as its embedded in the language, memes and behavior of the past is also politically incorrect.

Bruce
2/18/2014 10:38:49 pm

Jason, I don't see anything on Billy Meier in your work unless I missed it. Have you investigated this case and if so, where do you stand on it?

Thanks,
Bruce

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Jason Colavito link
2/19/2014 06:41:53 am

His claims are rather modern, so they don't fall into my usual area. His photos, though, I am convinced are not of alien spaceships.

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yakko
2/19/2014 11:45:44 am

Photographs have never been good evidence of UFOs, since photo manipulation goes all the way back to the earliest days of photography. Back then they presented photos of ghosts and fairies as "so explain THAT" proof; today we present Bigsuit, Blobsqatch, and flying Frisbees in the same spirit. I myself have a photo I took on vacation with an old Polaroid camera, of the Missouri State Capitol Building. Due to a flaw in the emulsion, there appears to be a vaguely saucer-shaped object hovering over the dome. On the original photo you can see the foreign object perfectly well, but when scanned and posted on the web (without alterations), it looks remarkably real.

Billy Meier's photos look to me like models either photographed out of scale, or montaged into a background. I haven't read anything about them, or even looked at them closely, but I've been known to take one of his photos and add a few Photoshop tricks of my own. >:)

Terry Melanson link
2/18/2014 10:49:13 pm

I've never liked that Reeves guy. His attitude, and his own brand of yellow journalism was always a part of his playbook. He started out attacking Alex Jones, and produced low-budget YouTubes accusing him and others of secret Jesuitism and hidden Catholic menace. He correctly identified the threat of the dominionist faction of the far-right, however, but "appropriated" the previous research of others on the subject. - Paul and Philip Collins in particular.

I haven't heard much lately about him, but I was vaguely aware of his recent obsession with the "American Mysteries" and Nephilim and Ancient Aliens. Seems an opportunist at best.

I find his putrid attack on Wolter disgusting as well.

I'm come across people reading verbatim from both my sites before as well - without attribution. It really pisses me off that they are so lazy as to not even be up front and at least cite from where it is they are reading from.

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Byron DeLear link
2/19/2014 08:28:12 am

Terry Melanson---nice to see you here. Your excellent book on the Bavarian Illuminati was recommended to me by Mo Lodge of Research member, Aaron Shoemaker; and I enjoyed your thorough research and history. I agree with you about the data poachers, and although I'm not familiar with Reeves, after listening to some of the vids Jason posted, they strike me as highly derivative and focused on over-sensationalizing his criticism of Wolter, Jones, etc. in a self-serving way. Kind of like amateur porch talk denigrating what he views as "colleagues" in order to elevate his own work. Sadly, what is being offered as a substitute is worse is many cases. Hopefully, we'll quickly move past this post's topic.

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Terry Melanson link
2/19/2014 01:42:17 pm

Thanks much appreciated! I like your latest article on the masonic symbols of Washington. You're a very good writer.

Tara Jordan link
2/19/2014 02:22:53 pm

Terry Melanson,Byron DeLear,Pacal.
I am glad to have individuals like yourselves on-board.Your intelligence & education further raise the level of this blog.We are moving so fast from the "group thinking" intellectual tropism,of entities such as the James Randi educational foundation forums.

Will B.
2/19/2014 08:01:15 pm

Data poachers! An excellent term. Like your work Terry. The real story usually is more intriguing than the myths...

yakko
2/19/2014 12:01:05 pm

Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Is this guy claiming that Alex Jones is part of the conspiracy? Boy, that's a hoot!

Terry, I checked out your website recently, and I'm happy to see so much information about the Illuminati that doesn't include Lady Gaga and CIA mind control. :-) I will have to read it as thoroughly as possible.

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Terry Melanson link
2/19/2014 01:48:13 pm

I've done serious research into the real Illuminati for at least ten years. You could spend a lifetime debunking all the theories. It would be an impossible task. Facts about them are harder to come by, especially in English. The real story also is just as interesting as some of the myths.

yakko
2/19/2014 03:34:07 pm

I did notice how much of the information on your site was still in German and being translated. I can read German, but not well enough to read academic texts or older works. About the Illuminati: apart from the mind-control thing (the Illuminati secretly control all popular entertainment, and slip subtle mind-control elements into movies, music videos, etc), I mostly run into the term when people make the Freemasonry/Illuminati equation. I do know a fair amount about the Freemasons, and all the conspiracy nonsense surrounding them would be amusing, if people didn't take it so seriously. I mean, when someone comes up to me and breathlessly insists that Freemasons built Washington DC, I'm about as impressed as if they told me that the Dutch Reformed built New York City.

Erik G
2/19/2014 05:49:06 am

To Tara...

Je suis abasourdi

"Nombrilistic"?

(!!!!!)

Quelle joie!

You may be an equal opportunity offender, but I certainly missed your passion while you were away some time back. Now, if you were to absent yourself again, I would miss your erudition and finely-tuned phrases as well...

Nombrilistic... That'll see me through quite a few cocktail parties...

Merci.

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Tara Jordan link
2/19/2014 07:03:57 am

Erik G.
Thank you.I`ll be here as long as Jason tolerates me,& try to be as creative as possible;).Vous êtes Francophile,Francophone?

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Erik G
2/19/2014 08:28:46 am

Tara... Je suis un veritable melange -- francais, italien, allemand, russe -- et culturellement anglais. Je pense en francais and swear in English.

The best of all possible worlds!

Cheers.

Tara Jordan link
2/19/2014 09:10:08 am

Erik G.
Nous possédons des points communs.Je suis née au sein du British Commonwealth mais l`Anglais n`est pas ma langue maternelle.

Titus pullo
2/19/2014 08:09:00 am

Jason's site welcomes those of all political sides as long as they have some logic and critical thinking. I'm a libertarian and have been treated well on this blog as well as seen very good thinking by those who claim to be liberal or conservative. I've learned more about history and the context of various theories here than anywhere else.

I don't agree with much of AE but it's not personal. I bet scott wolter would be fine company over a beer debating history.

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The Other J.
2/19/2014 10:39:17 am

With regard to how the production most likely cut some of Wolter's Rock Wall explanation, making it seem like Wolter was hiding information:

A while ago I posted a question on Wolter's blog asking why they didn't consult James Scherz about the sonar map he made of Rock Lake when they went looking for the pyramids, especially since they had Scherz on the show just a couple episodes later -- so it's not like they weren't aware of Scherz and his work. I also linked to the Chicago Trib article where Scherz mentioned the sonar map and what he found, saying one place could have been the pyramids or could have been a mass of weeds.

Wolter got back to me. It was a short response, but interesting. He said "For the record; we did consult with Jim and it was the same general location that we searched. We saw mostly weeds."

So they did do some due diligence, but just didn't show it. That suggests there was something that could have made the context of that entire lake search more clear and less like an aimless goose chase, but it was either left out by production to begin with, or left on the cutting room floor. Either way, it's another instance where the production seems to favor entertainment over information, and Wolter comes out looking bad, whether that's warranted or not.

They might save themselves some criticism if they erred in favor of information over entertainment.

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Jason
2/19/2014 08:28:29 pm

Well I can see I am glad I warned Josh about you Jason. You attack him in way that is not warranted. He never said Scott killed his father. Gives you credit in his full film. He make no money off his films as I and a few others are followers of him.

He just got off a multi state tour to do that film and for you to Just do no work of any kind and slander it. Reference articles that the writers themselves later changed their mind.

A&E has stated that the show America Unearth is an Entertainment show and not intended to be factual. Meaning every thing they put out should be deemed false unless proven true.

The fact that your followers would discount another mans work without even looking at it.

No one is trying to steal from you. If your Just going to blog your frustration take to someone else.

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Jason Colavito link
2/19/2014 10:46:06 pm

If he gives me credit in the full film, then I am doubly saddened because I don't want my name associated with his vile, disturbing ideas. There is no reason to "warn" Josh Reeves about me since I doubt I should ever had occasion to mention him again.

The excerpt from his video embedded above contains the material I described, including Reeves's allegation that Wolter was responsible for his father's death. I didn't make that up; it's in the video.

It is neither libel nor slander to describe the actual content of Reeves's video and radio interview. As for the claim that "A&E" stated America Unearthed was "entertainment"--I know this well because you are paraphrasing my own reporting, from an interview I conducted with a History channel representative. That's my work again.

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Jason
2/20/2014 04:46:58 am

I have the video he does not say the way you put. If Scott feels that he somehow cause his death on a diving trip stating that fact is not saying he killed him somehow on purpose. Feeling remorseful and guilty is a long way away from saying he killed him.

Also its not your work nor have I seen it. Its an entertainment show. They all state that. It just the same as all the shows. Do you actually think because someone comes to the same conclusion as you they are somehow stealing your "work" we did not even not even find out about you till we started digging in on Scott an America Unearth.

Your going on a rant about the first 10min of a move. Which is not even about America Unearth or Scott.

He put a lot of time and effort in the film. Traveled to many states to get that footage. All by the "small" donations him followers give him.

You go on to say because he is selling them that is somehow wrong. In what way is that wrong?

Lastly your followers and you need to learn how to see the big picture. Discounting all that Josh does based on one section of video he has done is amounts to "Sheep" behavior.

Discounting knowledge in any form before see it, bad or good. Is just plain ignorant.

Jason Colavito link
2/20/2014 05:05:49 am

Reeves states that Wolter's father "died in a diving accident that Wolter claims was his fault." Those are Reeves's exact words, and they unfairly distort Wolter's own. Reeves makes Wolter to say that he caused his own father's death.

Tara Jordan link
2/20/2014 05:28:06 am

Jason.
With all due respect,why are you wasting your time with this intellectual simpleton?.You dont have to justify yourself.

Jason Colavito link
2/20/2014 05:39:47 am

It's not for his sake; many readers won't click the YouTube video or watch the whole thing, so I put the quote out there for those who won't or can't watch.

An Over-Educated Grunt
2/20/2014 05:48:46 am

Jason's "followers?" "Sheep behavior?" Wow, why don't you just trot out Hitler while you're at it?

And we discount it because of the first ten minutes, but should pay attention to the rest?

You know why books have covers? So you can judge them. You know how you can tell a racist? He starts with "I'm not a racist, but..." The first and last arguments presented are the only ones that matter. They create the initial impression and the final impression, and everything in between will most likely get forgotten.

For that matter, the impression YOU create is one of a hyperventilating twelve-year-old who cannot spell, punctuate, or construct a coherent argument. If you want to be taken seriously, your own presentation does matter, regardless of the content of your argument.

Because it's painfully clear that this point needs to be driven home: STYLE MATTERS. How you present your point, especially at the beginning and end, is at least as important as the point itself in convincing people. Don't like it? Tough. It's still true.

Jason
2/20/2014 06:16:18 am

@An Over-Educated Grunt

Typical troll behavior focus on typing, and start insulting. Also as the saying goes "Don't Judge a book by its cover." I guess you forgot about that one and why we have it.

Being a black man as I am you can tell a racist by him calling you a ni**er and wanting nothing to do with you in any way. Or being overly nice to you while they screw you when your back is turned.

@Jason
Lastly Jason a 10min clip is hardly the movie. So if your Just focusing on that its a pretty small part. I can feel the anger because you feel wronged somehow, but Josh is not trolling your site for Ideas all week then doing a movie on the information he finds.

Jason Colavito link
2/20/2014 06:21:40 am

Jason, the above article is specifically focused on Reeves's claims regarding Scott Wolter. As you say, the rest of the film has nothing to do with Wolter, so it is not relevant to my post. This is not a comprehensive debunking of everything Reeves says but rather a specific response to specific claims Reeves made vis-à-vis Scott Wolter, America Unearthed, and the H2 network.

An Over-Educated Grunt
2/20/2014 07:19:53 am

Call me a forum troll all you like, sweetheart, but I'm not the one who posted "Oh, I am done!" and then 45 minutes later decided on a Parthian shot. Since you're a paragon of the English language, I'm certain you're familiar with that concept, so I won't demean you explaining.

Jason
2/20/2014 05:45:09 am

Oh I am done! There is no need to argue any further. I have put money towards Josh's work and have a right to defend it. I am one of the few on his show the sent emails to C2CAM so he can get on to promote it. Josh has put in a lot of work other than the 10min in his 2hr film about H2 show and Mr. Wolter.

He can have Mr. Wolter back. As Josh has stated he was pretty much done.

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Only Me
2/20/2014 09:05:52 am

You're right; there is no need for you to argue any further, since you had nothing to argue about.

It was painfully obvious when you started with the charges of slander and attack, admitted to being a "follower", injected your ethnicity and finally revealed to having financed Reeves' work.

You were done before you stepped into the ring.

Now, run along back to your beloved leader. This blog is for serious discussion pertaining to grievous misappropriation/misrepresentation of all things history.

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A Pig In Lipstick
3/3/2014 02:46:53 pm

To summarize:

Jason Colavito - Independent 'journalist' who points out the death of Scott Wolters father. Also sells his information on his website, folding the funds back into his operation. Good

Josh Reeves - Independent journalist who points out the death of Scott Wolters father. Also sells his sells his information on his website, folding the funds back into his operation. Bad

Pot, meet kettle.

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Bobinator
3/3/2014 08:44:51 pm

"Josh Reeves - Independent "journalist" who points out the death of Scott Wolters father. Also sells his sells his and other people's information on his website, folding the funds back into his operation. Bad "

Fixed that for you

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Jason Colavito link
3/3/2014 10:28:26 pm

I have never discussed the death of Scott Wolter's father except here to point out Josh Reeves's disgusting reference to the same. I do not make money from this website. I take no advertising, and the rare donation goes toward the maintenance costs.

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zandor
3/26/2014 06:09:43 pm

Get your facts right before you put your foot in your mouth Colavito..... you chump. The same goes for all the mind controlled liars you have incited here to defend your house of cards.
You always reap what you sow, and you know what you're sowing here. Knowingly defending the shills that you feed off whilst deliberately misrepresenting Josh Reeves.... Or is that a sick fascination of the morbid kind you have for Scotty boy... You know, the one who indirectly pays your bills...??
Time for you to get what you deserve too .....

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zora link
7/20/2014 04:37:05 am

this chat room was created a few years back to document reeves and his lies. you can scroll back over the years and read how he has conned people out of money for his so called research. The only ones still supporting reeves have no clue what he has done over the years. http://thedailysun.chatango.com/

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Edward
12/15/2019 03:25:33 am

Reeves is a total con. Sadly, I got burned by him. He lied to me and never delivered on his promise. I feel like a fool for giving that arrogant prick my hard earned money. His follows buy into his “cult-of-personality” but I no longer do. He flips out over every slightly critical comment made on his channel and yells and cusses at anyone who criticizes him. He is the lowest form of humanity.

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urmom
7/25/2014 08:47:35 am

F*ck Josh Reeves...who cares, but anyone who cant figure out by now that this Wolter guy, Alex Jones, art bell/Norry...just to name a few are nothing but spooks and shills for the people they claim to be against is only fooling themselves.

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Edward
12/15/2019 03:15:54 am

Josh Reeves is a fraud, read my comment. He lies to get money and doesn’t deliver on his promises.

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Edward
12/15/2019 03:12:17 am

Josh Reeves is a liar, a fraud, and a lowlife. He constantly lies to his followers to get them to give him money. He cries for twenty minutes or more during every show that he doesn’t have any money, all the while lying about his “documentary” that will never come out. I was burned by him for a large donation sadly. I contacted him multiple times about claiming my perk, only to have him ignore me. He whines about not having money to finish his documentaries, then when his goals are met, he resets the meter and asks for more money. He is shameless, has no standards, morals, or ethics of any kind. He is total trash, do not give him one red cent of your hard earned money unless you enjoy getting ripped off!

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