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Early Arguments for Atlantis in Sardinia, Santorini, and Crete

9/20/2016

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Last week the Greek island of Santorini engaged in a bit of morbid celebration, marking with a festival the 150th anniversary of the eruption of its volcano, which devastated the island between 1866 and 1870. At the time, the sea turned red with detritus and residents of the island were nearly smothered by volcanic gases. The celebration included lectures about the volcano, art, music, and agricultural products, especially the island’s famous cherry tomatoes. Regular readers will of course recognize that an earlier eruption of the same volcano, from 1600 BCE, is frequently blamed for spawning the legend of the lost continent of Atlantis. As I discovered this week, the 1866 eruption helped make that happen.
In 1872, the French polymath and popular science writer Louis Figuier added a chapter on Atlantis to the fourth edition of his book La terre et les mers (Earth and Sea), whose third edition had been translated into English in 1870. Figuier had been inspired by the eruption of Santorini’s volcano and came to a surprising conclusion, namely that the devastation created by that eruption must have been akin to that which destroyed Atlantis. He said that he hoped to “establish that the Atlantis of Plato, accepted by some and denied by others, and interpreted a hundred ways at different times, actually existed and disappeared under the waves because of a concussion, a convulsion of the ground similar to that which recently upset the vicinity of Santorini” (my trans.).
 
Figuier’s arguments were unimpressive, boiling down to his claim that other scholars were wrong to take Plato literally on the location of Atlantis and figuratively on its destruction in order to make it America, while he was correct to take Plato figuratively on the location of Atlantis and literally on its destruction in order to make it one of the Greek islands. He did not specifically claim that the Santorini volcano destroyed Atlantis, but he was unable to identify another volcano in the area of similar power.
 
By the middle twentieth century, Figuier’s speculation found new life with the discovery that the Santorini volcano had erupted around 1600 BCE. This led some scholars and many fringe historians to conclude that Santorini itself—ancient Thera—had been Atlantis.
 
I have translated Figuier’s text and placed it in my Library.
 
I would be remiss not to point out an interesting fact that I found in Figuier’s chapter, which bears on the upcoming National Geographic Channel documentary that aims to connect Atlantis to Sardinia. Figuier writes that “Delisle de Sales, the author of the Philosophy of Nature, made Plato’s Atlantis none other than Homer’s Ogygia, inhabited by Calypso. Delisle de Sales found that the Pillars of Hercules signify the Gulf of Tunis, and since the vanished island was very great, Sardinia could be its remains.” This pushes back the idea of Atlantis is Sardinia farther than I would have guessed! Jean-Baptiste-Claude Delisle de Sales published The Philosophy of Nature: Treatise on Human Moral Nature in 1770, with new editions expanding the work to a staggering dozen volumes by the end of his life. According to his account, published in the Philosophical History of the Primitive World, Atlantis existed before the Earth had fully formed, when only the Caucasus mountains presided over the first continent. This Atlantis birthed the master race, who spread out across the newly formed lands of the Earth. Sardinia was all that remained of the original part of Atlantis that the master race once inhabited, and he said that it was the only solution that met Plato’s criteria:
Assuming, for example, that the Isle of Plato was in the middle of the Mediterranean, to the twenty-ninth degree of longitude and the forty-first of latitude, in nearly in the position of our Sardinia, which did not exist, or rather is the remains of Atlantis, one will have fulfilled nearly all conditions of the problem. (my trans.)
The Atlanteans, he thought, were the “benefactors of humanity,” whose activities were the key to understanding history.
 
It would be interesting to translate his whole argument, but de Sales wrote hundreds of pages about Atlantis, and while I am interested, I’m not that masochistic. I translated the chapter on Sardinia as Atlantis so you can see that almost literally nothing has changed in this argument in two hundred and twenty years.
 
This view has clear anticipations of Theosophy and later fringe history. His identification of Atlantis with Ogygia would carry over into the work of Eugène Beauvois, who used the claim to identify all these lands with America and thus carry Europeans to Mexico. 
 
Finally, I should mention that I have posted the complete text of K. T. Frost’s 1913 academic article making the case for the Minoan civilization as the “real” Atlantis. It is the historical corollary to Figuier’s geological argument, and together those two claims would combine to give us the modern Santorini hypothesis. Frost’s article—a formal write-up of an idea he proposed in the Times of London in 1909—is widely accepted as the first claim that the Minoans were the inspiration for Atlantis. The article has, to the best of my knowledge, never been freely available on the internet outside of paid databases.
 
It was a huge pain in the ass to post because I couldn’t get a decent OCR on my scan of the article, and even the best only rendered the left three-quarters of each page. I had to type the rest by hand. That’s why I’ve put it off for the last three months. 
19 Comments
Templar Secrets
9/20/2016 10:06:57 am

It's time people started citing references to Atlantis before Plato.

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David Bradbury
9/20/2016 03:35:40 pm

Easy-peasy.
Ἀτλαντὶς means "daughter of Atlas" and was used in that sense by Hesiod in the Theogony (line 938). The Odyssey (1:52) is among the texts which include Calypso among those daughters (which contradicts the claim that the daughters are the seven Pleiades, and Calypso was the sister-in-law of Atlas, but never mind).

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Templar Secrets
9/20/2016 04:07:08 pm

Just found 5 references to Atlantis in Herodotus.

Templar Secrets
9/20/2016 04:52:20 pm

The story of Atlantis is a good example of a morality fable presented as historical fiction, hijacking a historical character and putting the story into his mouth.

This sort of charlatanism existed way back in antiquity.

David Bradbury
9/21/2016 03:06:21 am

You may have found five references to Atlantis in Herodotus- but Herodotus does not make any reference to Atlantis, though he does use the word Ἀτλαντὶς .

Templar Secrets
9/21/2016 06:33:59 am

I don' t think the etymology of the word Atlantis counts because it is a fantasy word like Narnia,

David Bradbury
9/21/2016 08:06:39 am

Until you learn to think clearly, what you think (or don't think) will continue to be useful only as a spur to clearer thinkers.

Templar Secrets
9/21/2016 09:08:48 am

You don't know what thinking is.

Termplar Secrets
9/21/2016 09:11:10 am

>>Ἀτλαντὶς means "daughter of Atlas"<<

This is inadmissible since the word Atlantis within the context of Plato comes out of a deceased man called Critias who was referring to a city and not to mythology.

David Bradbury
9/21/2016 01:38:02 pm

False logic there- you really aren't thinking this through.

Templar Secrets
9/22/2016 08:05:58 am

You're not as clever as you think you are.

David Bradbury
9/22/2016 08:18:35 am

I'm clever enough to be very wary of statements like "This is inadmissible".

Only Me
9/20/2016 10:47:19 am

It surprises me these ideas come so close to the most likely answer:

Plato took inspiration for Atlantis from the known physical world of his day, as well as stories, and used his imagination to combine elements for his allegory.

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Shane Sullivan
9/20/2016 11:28:04 am

Thanks for the translations, and the Frost article. Sounds like it was a bastard-and-a-half.

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Bob Jase
9/20/2016 12:40:41 pm

It would be a lot easier to tell which of these islands is the real Atlantis if they didn't keep sinking and rising back up so often.

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Jonathan E. Feinstein
9/20/2016 12:51:23 pm

...or if the Atlantians had found a way to make their homeland drip dry...

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Only Me
9/20/2016 03:31:30 pm

Guys, don't you remember? The Atlantians were too busy sending their dead into space to worry about a little flooding.

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Jim
9/20/2016 05:58:23 pm

Look for deeper shafts, with the upcoming flood, they may have gone further underground.

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shaun
11/3/2016 09:43:04 am

We all assume the flood of atlantis was with water, some translation mishap? Someone might look at a Volcano eruption and state the city was flooded with rain of fiery ash. Maybe it wasn't Water or the Ocean at all... Even better did anyone ever asked was it really written by Plato???

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