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Early Soviet Ancient Astronaut Claims and Thoughts on MUFON's UFO Symposium

6/26/2014

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I have two topics to discuss today: First, a story is making the rounds about a man who was allegedly the first Soviet ancient astronaut theorist. The second is the upcoming MUFON UFO Symposium and its claims about the media.
The First Russian Ancient Astronaut Theorist?
You may have seen a story making the rounds on UFO websites about a Soviet scientist who supposedly investigated ancient astronauts in the 1920s and 1930s before being imprisoned in a Stalinist work camp as a result of his work. According to the story, published in a Russian magazine in 2011 but only now being discussed in English, Genrikh Mavrikiyevich Ludvig gained special access to secret Vatican archives, which revealed the arrival of ancient astronauts. He then correlated this with Maya hieroglyphs, which he said depicted space beings in spacecraft.

I originally thought the story was a fake, now I think it is a bit more complex than that. I think it has a kernel of truth.


The article attributes to Ludvig architectural plans for a proposed Soviet embassy in Turkey, and Selim Omarovich Khan-Magomedov’s 1983 book Pioneers of Soviet Architecture contains references to Ludvig under the spelling Genrikh Lyudvig, calling him one of the country’s “most original” architects and noting his training as an engineer. The book confirms that he did in fact design the embassy plans shown in the magazine. He really existed! I was unable to find any confirmation, however, that the man was a leading ancient astronaut theorist of the 1920s. That is where things start to get interesting.

The details of the story don’t make much sense. According to the story, Ludvig took photographs of the Vatican’s secret extraterrestrial manuscripts, though these conveniently disappeared sometime in the 1960s. Here is the English summary-translation from the link above, but note that the writer uses photocopies where the original implies photographs.
…Professor Ludvig showed his students photocopies of the Vatican’s ancient manuscripts (containing information about extraterrestrials that had visited our planet) with drawings, described to them the hidden essence of ancient myths; he told them of the Fiery Pillar that destroyed an advanced ancient civilization; he showed the students photos of the fortress walls discovered in Babylon, melted with the horrendous temperature and believed that nuclear blasts could cause this.
The claims attributed to Ludvig were more famously made by Soviet mathematician Matest M. Agrest in the 1950s. It’s unclear that anyone would have been discussing the vitrifying power of nuclear weapons in the 1920s or early 1930s, and it took a little reading to figure out that these claims were apparently made in the 1960s, not the 1930s.

Ludvig doesn’t seem to actually have been an ancient astronaut theorist in the 1920s and 1930s. Instead, the article talks about his belief in lost civilizations (the Sumerians, he said, were like a book whose first pages had been pulled out) and that ancient monuments had esoteric spiritual energy. The Pyramids, he said, could be activated with meditation. He spoke of astral projection and ascending to meet God in the spheres beyond earth. In other words, he sounds more like a Theosophist rather than a nuts-and-bolts ancient astronaut theorist, much like his contemporary, the émigré occultist Nicholas Roerich. Ludvig had an interest in primitive magic and complained to the Soviet government that they failed to return his copy of The Golden Bough after his release from internment in the late 1950s.

The only evidence that he believed in spacemen or that there was a nuclear bombing of Babylon comes from one of his former students, who recalled Ludvig talking of such issues much, much later—in the 1960s, the height of the Soviet ancient astronaut craze, when Matest M. Agrest, Alexander Kasantsev, and I. S. Shklovskii had popularized the idea. So, if I take the evidence at face value, it sounds like Ludvig had typical Theosophical-style esoteric ideas about ancient history in the 1930s and later converted to ancient astronaut beliefs in the 1960s, like many of his generation who saw parallels between the esoteric and ancient astronauts. As for the Vatican material, that is probably a combination of exaggeration, secondhand memory, and wishful thinking based on “interpretations” that the Russian scholar imposed on the source materials—source materials that are conveniently not cited by the only person to claim they existed, a student of his 50 years ago.

MUFON UFO Symposium
Earlier this week a representative of Consulting Arts Management, working on behalf of the Mutual UFO Network, contacted me to promote MUFON’s upcoming symposium in Cherry Hill, New Jersey next month. The topic of this year’s symposium is going to be media coverage of UFOs. The press release had the usual typos and assorted errors, and it was especially funny in the disconnect between the professed purpose of MUFON’s 45th symposium and the actual content of the planned lectures.

Here is what MUFON executive director Jan C. Harzan said about the upcoming conference according to the press release:
Historically mainstream media has kept its distance from professional coverage of UFOs. And the little coverage it does receive is riddled with tired ‘little green men’ references and other old techniques. We’ll discuss the profound effect of the media and how the media can sway or control perception and our plans to effect change for realistic coverage in the future.
Harzan did not answer the question of how MUFON’s Hangar 1: The UFO Files, airing on H2, fits into this inquiry into media coverage of UFOs. That program, as I demonstrated earlier this year, included such “fresh” and “new” techniques as recycling National Enquirer stories about celebrity UFO sightings and fabricating government documents from re-edited material drawn from Stanton Friedman’s books. Similarly, it was unclear how MUFON sees a lack of UFO coverage in a television universe where at least 100 hours of UFO programming air across the cable dial each week on channels such as H2, Destination America, the Science Channel, the Biography Channel, the National Geographic Channel, Syfy, and more.

Stanton Friedman will be on hand at the Symposium to discuss “laziness and misrepresentation” in coverage of UFOs in the media, but I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts he won’t mention MUFON’s own misappropriation and misrepresentation of his work in its Hangar 1 cable series.

Harzan is concerned that the media focus on “old” techniques, yet the keynote event at the Symposium is a celebration of the 25th anniversary of the so-called Area 51 whistleblower. And since Harzan is deeply  concerned that the media want to belittle serious UFO research as wacky people talking about little green men, he may want to rethink having Ancient Aliens pundit Linda Moulton Howe deliver a lecture on whether the stone monuments of Göbekli Tepe in Turkey are “alien terraforming” devices. You know, the scientific, serious research!

The press release stated that “speakers are available for interviews in advance,” and the PR agent suggested I could interview Linda Moulton Howe. However, when I asked the PR agent to set that up, she came back the next day and told me that she wouldn’t be able to do that and instead directed me to Howe’s Earth Files website. Translation: Howe doesn’t want to speak to me. Apparently my coverage of ancient astronauts doesn’t meet her high standards for professionalism.

I think that about says it all: One of the star attractions at a conference dedicated to complaining about the lack of quality media coverage of UFOs and ancient astronautics won’t talk to me even to publicize the event. Can’t she handle even a few challenging questions about her extraordinary claims?
13 Comments
666
6/26/2014 07:13:14 am

>>>Can’t she handle even a few challenging questions<<<

No - because she does not want to be confronted with material that she goes out of her way to suppress. Old story.

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Gregor
6/26/2014 07:35:04 am

Agreed.

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Graham
6/27/2014 09:24:17 pm

Well, if you read/listen to the item below you will learn that she indulges in the old media trick of hyping a story on the front page and then 'disappearing' it without mentioning the retraction.

"Exposing PseudoAstronomy: The Chualar Barley Field Crop Circle and Reporting on it by Linda Moulton Howe"

http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/shownotes_101.php

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An Over-Educated Grunt
6/26/2014 07:27:36 am

By "the so-called Area 51 whistleblower," I assume you mean Bob Lazar. The funny thing about Bob Lazar being trotted out as a showcase of media ignoring UFOs is that Lazar's story first appeared all over local news in Vegas. It wasn't CNN, but local news is still about as mainstream as you can get. It was only after holes started appearing in his story that mainstream media people started losing interest in interviewing him - holes that, as always, were caused by the Big Scary Government coming in and systematically deleting all references to him going to school... which would involve back-censoring every yearbook from every college he claimed to attend. The level of effort required for these supposed conspiracies to work is mind-boggling.

As for Linda Moulton Howe... obviously I don't know the woman personally, but the impression her various appearances form is that you got off lucky. I'd much rather see an Uwe Boll-style boxing match between you and our favorite troll-doll bodybuilding promoter.

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Jason Colavito link
6/26/2014 08:11:54 am

I suppose it must be Lazar, but I don't know for sure because the press release didn't say.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
6/26/2014 09:01:58 am

Timing's right. Lazar made himself known in 1989, I don't know of any other "Area 51 whistleblower" suspects from that year. Problem is that Lazar looks very much like an outright fraud.

Varika
6/26/2014 02:14:53 pm

"The level of effort required for these supposed conspiracies to work is mind-boggling."

Clearly, now we know why we REALLY have a multi-trillion dollar national debt. ~.^

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An Over-Educated Grunt
6/27/2014 01:39:30 am

Yep, NASA is sending their super-secret nonexistent Men In Black to replace every MIT and Stanford yearbook in every library everywhere with one that omits references to Bob Lazar, they're reprogramming all his professors to forget his existence, and they're deleting all records of his doctoral dissertation from every database. All without anyone knowing. This seems much more likely than that these things simply didn't exist in the first place.

.
6/27/2014 04:47:49 pm

the Soviets often did just that, we weren't as fastidious
as they were, or as thorough prior to all going digital...

Clint Knapp
6/26/2014 11:18:12 pm

I would've liked to have seen that interview happen, though I suspect Moulton-Howe would have required several days notice to prepare her answers. She doesn't strike me as a very off-the-cuff sort of presenter and most of her C2C appearances are really a long series of pre-recorded interviews that sound heavily scripted on her end.

Lazar's farce strikes an amusing note for me. The local vegas newsman at the head of his story is George Knapp, also of Coast to Coast swing-shift fame. No relation I know of.

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666
6/26/2014 11:47:38 pm

It's like expecting an interview between Robert M. Price and Bart Ehrman on live national television. Ehrman would never do it.

.
6/27/2014 04:40:57 pm

----> monday morning quarterbacking <--- i've read the GULAG.
in the Roaring Twenties "death rays" and super-weapon bombs
were all over the vintage science fiction pulp mags of the time. in
the 1930s many writers postulated nuclear weapons but the start
of WW2 impelled FDR to put A-Bombs under a censorship ban
despite the fact its HST who was our C-I-C when the Manhattan
Project entered into its TRINITY endzone. If KGB and not NKVD
was into recruiting scientists and engineers into the propaganda
effort despite a stint in Stalin's camps, then if the poor guy had
read the better science fiction of the time-period in addition to
being very well educated, was he "rewritten" faster than you can
say "Being Sea" so as to create a back~story via some casual
speculations he may have voiced when things were more open?
i am older, i am familiar with the Cold War era, let alone the way
the West reacted to the famous "show trials" of the era, and in
that time, the actions of one's fifth or seventh cousin could have
the secret police all over you, or even a trip into the camp system.
He might have been creative or broadly opinionated, but the old
SOVIET system was infamous for how it "rewrote" things. the
poor guy did get his ideas published in the 1920s + 1930s and
by the 1960s his wilder remarks became quoted paragraphs... i feel. Posing a "what if" hypothesis is not the same as being very
dogmatic about doctrine. normally sci-fi tries not to get totally into
a given theory of economics, but often a level of technology does
create a new economic system or structure that over time can become more complex and sophisticated. Did they go "retro" or
even into hypoerbole to push the idea well beyond P.Lowell's
canals on Mars? Like as if ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS is
a famous factoid driven documentary? O Tempore, O Mores!!!

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Robert
8/5/2017 08:27:04 pm

There are soo many UFO hoaxers out there now....and oh yes, there were many years ago as well. Vatican secret books, info, etc about beings from other syar systems...geez, how nuts is this. The Earth has NEVER been visited by any other world beings- no govt cover ups, no secrets at all.

Its all about spoofing people who want to believe this crap and all these moronic tv shows that say we have and are now being visited by beings-- its all about making money. Period...no if, ands, nor buts!

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