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Evangelical Pastor Claims Stonehenge Built by Giants on Orders from the Devil

4/18/2016

34 Comments

 
It’s my birthday today, and as a result I’ve now entered a new marketing demographic. Although I don’t feel any different, suddenly I’m no longer of interest to advertisers. Yesterday, I was in the 18-34 age bracket. Now I’m in the 35-54 age bracket, and if there is any benefit to it, maybe I’ll get fewer spam texts, calls, and emails. But somehow I doubt it. In fact I just received a scam call pretending to be Dell computer tech support.
So what did I get for my birthday? I received a lot of notices that liberal political websites are laughing hysterically at claims made recently on the Rev. Jim Bakker’s show. Honestly, I didn’t know that Jim Bakker, the disgraced ex-husband of the late Tammy Faye Bakker, was still preaching, but apparently in the infinite forgiveness of Christ, a sex scandal, divorce, fraud conviction, and imprisonment are only disqualifying in a moral leader if he is a liberal. Bakker, who owes the United States around six million dollars in back taxes, is now an apocalyptic End Times preacher with a line of doomsday prepping merchandise.
 
The above might have seemed like an irrelevant attack on Bakker except that his transition from sunny televangelist to doomsday prophet fed directly into the claims for which his show was mocked this past week. Since fear sells prepping supplies better than hope, Bakker had on Dr. Dennis Lindsay, a Nephilim theorist, in anticipation of this week’s week-long series “Fallen Angels, Giants, and the Nephilim,” a panel discussion with Tom Horn and Bakker. The panel discussion, which originally was to have featured Steve Quayle, was taped March 24.
 
Horn is the author of Nephilim Stargates: The Year 2012 and Return of the Watchers. Lindsay serves as president of Christ for the Nations Institute and wrote Giants, Fallen Angels and the Return of the Nephilim. 
On last Wednesday’s Jim Bakker Show, Lindsay promoted a two-book and DVD Nephilim collection for $65 plus shipping and handling, and offered his explanation of the Giants. Lindsay believes that Satan is the author of the Nephilim, having encouraged the angels to fall and procreate with human women, in order to contaminate the human race with demon genes so that Jesus couldn’t save us because we are impure. He also believes that Satan uses the Nephilim to try to undermine Israel. It sounds, too, like he’s saying that the Islamic Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem is a Satanic structure:
He (Satan) built his little squatter’s hut up there on the Temple Mount, you know that temple, because he knows what the Bible says about that place. So this is what I did: I weaved through why and what is the evidence for giant beings on this earth. We all know about Stonehenge, right? And that’s just one of hundreds and hundreds of gigantic places around the world that testify that some sort of supernatural power or giants were involved in its construction, and I document it in this book.
Liberal opinion sites had a field day making fun of Lindsay for saying giants built Stonehenge, but surprisingly Lindsay is only repeating well-trod folklore about the ancient monument dating back more than a thousand years. Geoffrey of Monmouth, for example, in his History of the Kings of Britain (8.11) wrote that Stonehenge, then called the Giants’ Dance, had been raised by the “giants of old” in Ireland from stones brought from Africa, and that Merlin flew them to Salisbury Plain. A later version of the story, believed to date from the fifteenth century, places the Devil in the lead role, superseding Merlin, and attributes to him the raising of the stones. This story is a bit of a conflation, deriving from an apparently earlier folktale that the Devil threw Stonehenge’s Friar’s Heel stone at a friar. This was backformed, scholars have suggested, from the stone’s older name, Ffreya sul, referring to the goddess Freya and the Sun, and thus associating the stone with paganism, the faith of the Devil.
 
Fun fact: Ebenezer Brewer, whose dictionaries and compendia contributed to so many fringe history falsehoods due to his slipshod research, messed this one up, too, attributing the Devil version to Geoffrey of Monmouth because he (or a later writer he consulted) misunderstood where a translation of Geoffrey left off and editorial commentary began in an old book about Stonehenge that collected primary sources. I’ve found versions dating back to John Wood’s Choir Gaure in 1747, who attributes it to a “recent” translation of Geoffrey of Monmouth, suggesting that this might have been the translator’s addition or note.
 
I can’t say that Lindsay had any of this in mind—I’ve never read his book—and Lindsay’s claims are quite similar to those made for large sites the world over. Everything from the Pyramids of Giza to Baalbek to Mycenae to Teotihuacan has been attributed to giants, part of the human tendency to underestimate the capacity of their ancestors. But such stories are just that: stories. Indeed, we can find clear evidence of how such tales grew up in the face of factual evidence. At Baalbek, for example, the attribution to giants occurred in the Middle Ages, due to the localization of the Nimrod myth at the site and the (wrong) assumption that the site once housed the Tower of Babel. In southern Germany, a Roman palisade and wall (part of the limes Germanicus) became known as the Devil’s Wall in the Middle Ages. We know who built it and when, and it wasn’t the devil. 
34 Comments
Only Me
4/18/2016 02:40:57 pm

Happy birthday!

It's a shame you had to check out another idiot's claims, demonstrating how some people are more content with ignorance.

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Frank Johnson link
4/18/2016 07:40:54 pm

Many happy returns, Jason.

As a Christian, I can tell you that I share your assessment of this circus.

I hear Horn also made a ludicrous claim that 72 near earth asteroids are in fact the 72 fallen nephilim/watchers (he isn't always clear on the difference). And that they'll return to earth. A return that is not mentioned in the bible I might add.

He makes my head hurt...

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Oh Yes
4/18/2016 09:28:24 pm

Tom Horn and Cris Putnam are absolute weirdos.

Ioannes Angelos
4/18/2016 02:58:18 pm

A very Happy Birthday to you, sir!

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Scott Hamilton
4/18/2016 03:13:53 pm

Best birthday wishes to you!

Re: the title of Horn's book, did the Watchers return in 2012? I just want to make sure I didn't miss it.

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Frank Johnson
4/18/2016 10:08:10 pm

I think that was 2 different books actually. I used to have nephilim stargates, which had snippets of his own fiction in it to illustrate a point. Also, my local used book store wouldn't even buy it.

The 2012 one was appollyon rising 2012 (sp?). The 2012 one he was promoting on different shows hinting that some ritual at the Vatican and in DC (something obelisk and dome related symbolizing sex) was going to happen. He stopped short of saying what exactly, but it felt like he was hinting that the antichrist would come.

It'd be interesting to go back and look at his claims in that book and see how many fell flat.

He's got a real axe to grind with the Vatican, he did the prophecy of the popes book with putnam and one other book he asserts that the Vatican is watching something in space with their lucifer telescope.

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Frank Johnson
4/18/2016 10:14:35 pm

An excellent point Jason brought up is that fear porn sells survival stuff rather well. Horns main line of business is selling prepper stuff at his survivor mall.

All of his books push "something coming" which of course spreads fear and sells merchandise.

He follows the rule of acquisition "faith moves mountains...of inventory" rather well.

Really, the Christian response if this horrible stuff was really coming should/would be to 1) have actual evidence proving something is coming (beyond the normal we all need salvation thing) and 2) preach the Gospel (1 Corinthians 15.)

So on that point I view horn with much skepticism.

It's the same sort of thing Jesus chased the money changers out of the temple for, in my opinion.

Atheist, Humanist, Agnostic, Casanova
4/19/2016 02:49:39 am

"1 Corinthians 15"

There's no record of Christ appearing first to Peter first after the resurrection in the Gospels.

David Bradbury
4/19/2016 03:13:29 am

"There's no record of Christ appearing first to Peter first after the resurrection in the Gospels."
Indeed not, which increases the likelihood that they are based on real events, and were written down to counter a false version of the story being spread by Paul for his own devious ends.
:-(

PS: Happy day-after-your-birthday Jason.

Atheist, Humanist, Agnostic, Casanova
4/19/2016 05:11:51 am

" increases the likelihood that they are based on real events"

Nope, wrong. The death and resurrection story was originally a religious ritual that later developed into a historical narrative.

Different authors had different takes, hence the contradictions.

What is given in I Corinthians 15 does not tally with the rest of Paul's writings, and hence could be another example of tampering by other authors keen to foist "ancient sources" into Paul's material.

Shane Sullivan
4/18/2016 03:28:14 pm

Happy Birthday!

I can't afford to hire the robot from Rocky IV to say "Happy Birthday Jason" instead "Happy Birthday Paulie", so just pretend I did that.

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Clete
4/18/2016 04:13:54 pm

Happy birthday to you, Jason. You know, Jim Bakker has a divorce and a sex scandal, think about this, all he needed to be a republican front runner for nomination for president of the United States are failed business and an orange toupee.

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Kathleen
4/18/2016 05:53:50 pm

Bakker's Heritage USA theme park went belly up. Now for the toupee and spray tan.

Happy birthday, Jason

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Alexander
4/18/2016 05:50:21 pm

Happy Birthday!

I am beginning to think that the Nephilim is like the Christian version of Aliensdidit, I half expected Lindsay to hold out his hands and say Nephilim like the famous Meme of Giorgio A. Tsoukalos,

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Frank Johnson
4/18/2016 07:42:21 pm

You're right, nephilim did it is the aliens did it of lunatic fringe Christianity. Not all of us Christians are crazy, I promise.

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Atheist, Humanist, Agnostic, Casanova
4/18/2016 08:18:30 pm

"Not all of us Christians are crazy"

LOL

crainey
4/18/2016 07:08:33 pm

Happy Birthday!

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Tony
4/18/2016 08:37:28 pm

I think the devil is Jim Bakker's set designer. That is just plain cataract inducing.

Happy birthday!

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Vicki
4/18/2016 10:14:04 pm

Happy birthday!!!

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Jonathan Feinstein
4/19/2016 05:21:21 am

Happy Birthday,

"and if there is any benefit to it, maybe I’ll get fewer spam texts, calls, and emails. But somehow I doubt it. In fact I just received a scam call pretending to be Dell computer tech support."

Sadly, I think those calls will only become more frequent. The older you are, the more likely you'll get a call from someone with an almost incomprehensibly thick Indian accent telling you they are "Richard from Microsoft,"

The good news is that the snappy comebacks to lines like that are endless...

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Thorne
4/19/2016 09:35:35 am

"The older you are, the more likely you'll get a call from someone with an almost incomprehensibly thick Indian accent telling you they are "Richard from Microsoft,""

You must get the intelligent one! The guy who calls me is always from "Windows Tech Support", not Microsoft.

And Jason, just wait until you hit the over-60 demographic. Lots of calls from health insurance scammers, Social Security scammers, charity scammers, credit card scammers, credit repair scammers (who have the same area code and phone prefix as the credit card scammers), etc., etc., etc.

Happy birthday.

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Clete
4/19/2016 02:32:07 pm

I too received a call from someone from "Microsoft Support". It happened just after I had gotten up. I asked the "Support Technician" to wait while I took a dump. I then put the phone down and waited for about ten, fifteen minutes thinking that he would hang up. However he was still on the phone when I picked it up. He then asked me (In a heavy East Indian accent) if I had turned on my computer. I told him that I hadn't. He asked me to turn on my computer and open windows. I put the phone down for another fifteen minutes or so. When I returned, he asked if I had turned on my computer ( I hadn't). I answered "Yes, I did, but we need to hurry, it's only about forty degrees outside and with my windows open, it's going to get cold in the house." He answered "No, no, no sir you must open windows on your computer." By that time, I had wasted enough of my day with him, so I told him that both he and I knew that this was a scam. He then turned angry and began cursing at me, while I laughed at him before hanging up.

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Tony
4/19/2016 02:53:03 pm

I usually tell them that they're scammers and hang up, but next time -- and no doubt there will be a next time -- I'm going with your idea.

Shane Sullivan
4/19/2016 06:39:30 pm

I had some fun with a Nigerian scam email once. I told them I was flattered to have been deemed "trustworthy", what with my extensive criminal history (of course I included gratuitous laundry list of my fictive crimes). I then said that, due to an ongoing embezzlement investigation, my lawyer had advised me against making large bank transactions, so I had to decline their offer.

Ken
4/19/2016 10:40:18 am

There seem to be quite a few believers (Christians) following a 'skeptical' blog. Isn't a 'skeptical' Christian an oxymoron?

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Kathleen
4/19/2016 11:39:51 am

A clear-thinking, logical mind that en devours to seek and understand the universe around it is a God-given talent.

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Day Late and Dollar Short
4/19/2016 03:24:11 pm

True to form, my birthday greetings are belated. I hope the year brings you happiness and prosperity, Jason.

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DaveR
4/19/2016 04:07:46 pm

I was in the 82nd Airborne at Fort Bragg in the mid eighties and we used to watch the Jim and Tammy show laughing our asses off, it was some seriously funny comedy.

He has a real conflict of interest here. He sells prepping supplies and then runs around preaching about the end times fully well knowing there are a HUGE group of gullible goof-balls out there, hell he probably sold some of them condos in his previous evangelical endeavor, and all he has to do is fire them up to get their money.

Same old Jim, just a different sales pitch.

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Donald B. Miller
4/20/2016 01:53:13 pm

Stonehenge is a Transformer. Michael Bay will be showing the proof in his next movie.
http://tformers.com/transformers-5-micheal-bay-scouting-stonehenge-and-other-uk-film-locations-/28978/news.html

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Kal
4/21/2016 05:18:31 pm

Best fake Windows tech support scam comeback ever.
"Sir, what part of the UAE are you in? Dubai? Never mind, we know exactly where you are. We are coming. You will not know when. We are sending in a team now, but first by drone, to give you a chance to evacuate the facility. We have your IP address. You have twenty seconds to hang up, and two second to kiss the sky."

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Kal
4/21/2016 05:25:06 pm

Other fake windows support comment replies.
"That's odd. I work for Windows tech and your IP is not on my list. I have your IP now, and all of your information."

Or

"Oh my Gosh! This line has to stay open! The police are everywhere! They were pretending to be Bible giants worshiping and were sacrificing a goat, when they could not find a virgin among them!"

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Lee Gooden link
4/24/2016 12:40:20 pm

Happy Birthday Jason.

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William John Meegan link
4/24/2016 02:57:18 pm

To people like Jimmy Bakker the LORD JESUS CHRIST is Satan. For him to make such an asinine state is beyond my comprehension.

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Randy Hayes
4/24/2016 06:40:25 pm

Could Lindsey be related to Hal Lindsey of The Late Great Planet Earth book from the 70's? Similar nonsense.

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