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Ex-QAnon Conspiracy Theorist Discusses Interdimensional Alien Beliefs on CNN

1/30/2021

19 Comments

 
Sen. Lindsey Graham warned this week that calling the so-called QAnon Shaman, Jake Angeli (a.k.a. Jacob Chansley), to testify in Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial would be a circus, while last night CNN aired footage from tonight’s QAnon conspiracy special of anchor Anderson Cooper interviewing a former QAnon believer about the extreme delusions that he accepted as true while in the mouth of madness. Just as Angeli posted YouTube videos detailing his belief that he was a psychic space warrior working for a secret U.S. military program to destroy alien spaceships from another dimension, his fellow QAnon believers have some pretty strange—but very familiar—ideas.
In the preview clip, one ex-believer apologizes to Cooper for believing that Cooper was a Satanist who consumes the blood of babies in unholy rites. He added that some of his Q colleagues believe that Cooper is a robot and not a human.
 
But pay close attention to how Jitarth Jadeja, an Australian who left the Q world in 2019, describes his onetime understanding of the forces behind the mysterious figurehead of the QAnon movement, Q: “I at one stage believed that QAnon was part of military intelligence, which is what he says. But on top of that, that the people behind him were actually a group of fifth-dimensional, intradimensional (sic), extraterrestrial bipedal bird aliens called blue avians.”
 
Angeli had cited the work of History Channel figures like former Ancient Aliens star David Wilcock and Ancient Aliens guest stars Corey Goode and Graham Hancock. Jadeja’s erstwhile beliefs are part of that same constellation, which stretches from Coast to Coast A.M. to UFO Twitter and then to QAnon and the darkest parts of the web.
 
When we learn, as we did from court documents today, that InfoWars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who routinely discusses aliens, demons, and Nephilim on his show, helped to organize the rally that preceded the Capitol insurrection on January 6, it is impossible to completely sever extreme History Channel-style conspiracy theories from the Q movement, or either from the real-life consequences that emerge when conspiracy theorists take their beliefs beyond cable TV and their computers.
 
These bad ideas give aid and comfort to America’s internal enemies, and it is beyond irresponsible to continue to broadcast hours of interdimensional alien conspiracy programming every week on several of the country’s largest cable channels, and leading streaming services, or to treat their enablers as celebrities or, in the recent case of the New Yorker, as merely “fun.”
19 Comments
Silver spoon
1/30/2021 07:35:34 pm

Cooper does look like a robot and acts like one. He reminds me of Data from Star Trek. If he wasnt born into a family with more money and connections than god he would be lucky to be doing the weather on local news in Paducah, Kentucky, and Olive Garden would be his idea of a nice Friday night out.

That doesn't make the Q and History Channel any less nuts, though.

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Kent
1/31/2021 12:32:29 am

Leaving aside Anderson Cooper's CIA "internship" for now, (similarly Erik Prince didn't have to finish his five year commitment when he inherited a billion dollars, hello Blackwater!) the people who are problematic because of QAnon are precisely the people who think that QAnon is a thing, a thing that Trump supporters care about.

To put it in a nutshell, the people who believe in QAnon are...dupes and Democrats.

Linebarger would have a field day with this. It's all so clear to me now.

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Pollster Obvious
1/31/2021 01:01:07 pm

According to a recent poll by The Economist, significantly more Democrats have heard of QAnon than Republicans. However, significantly more Republicans view QAnon favorable than Democrats. The majority of people on both sides in the poll know QAnon is a thing. A disturbing percentage of Republicans think that it is a good thing.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/01/19/democrats-are-more-likely-than-republicans-to-have-heard-of-qanon

Kent
1/31/2021 12:09:12 am

Since Trump's presidency preceded QAnon, it's odd that no one has suggested the obvious possibility that QAnon is a psyop. When you can't win, paint your opposition as crazy.

I wish Paul Linebarger was still around, would love to hear his input on this.

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Jim
1/31/2021 10:03:04 am

" the people who believe in QAnon are...dupes and Democrats."

Right,,, it's the Democrats who are buying into Qanon,, hahaha.

You Trumpophants and your dumbassed conspiracy theories,
Could you make yourself look any more ridiculous Kent ? I think not.

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Kent
1/31/2021 12:25:38 pm

Always nice to hear from the dean of Blackpool geography. Clearly you need it explained.

Dupes believe it.
Democrats believe it's a problem.

"But the Comet Pizza guy!"
But the guy who lived in a van for six weeks so he could shoot Steve Scalise.

M'kay?

Other than chewing it for you I can't make it any simpler. Fortunately you're not in the U.S. so the ADA doesn't apply.

Jim
1/31/2021 03:15:57 pm

" believe in" and "believe it's a problem" are two different things buddy boy, but you just go ahead keep on changing your story and moving the goalposts.

David Allee
1/31/2021 09:51:23 am

What is up with your comment section, Jason? Ugh.

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Prospero45
2/1/2021 09:06:30 am

Have you noticed a change for the worse? I haven't. It's the same boring old twats making the same old unfunny wisecracks.

At least they seem to find it amusing.

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Joanna Hannigan link
1/31/2021 10:21:34 am

Thank you Jason, for daring to write what so many are thinking. You said it best, 'it's beyond irresponsible...' Much appreciated.

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D
1/31/2021 05:18:39 pm

He’s misquoted. He’s saying “blue avians”, which refers to the space opera fantasy created by Corey Goode and David Wilcock.

I’m surprised Wilcock isn’t mentioned more often. After all he’s a published author and he was one of the first big conspiracy theorists who, back in early 2012, promoted the notion of “imminent mass arrests”.

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Jason Colavito link
2/1/2021 09:44:46 am

I've corrected the error. Thanks for pointing it out. I was relying on a published transcript, and it was apparently wrong!

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Anthony G.
1/31/2021 05:53:36 pm

"...Anderson Cooper interviewing a former QAnon believer about the extreme delusions that he accepted as true while in the mouth of madness."

Funny. You could replace QAnon with Scientology and it would still make sense.

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Charles Verrastro link
1/31/2021 07:14:00 pm

It has been somewhat of a curse that all my life I have always seen both sides of a situation of disagreement, and astonished my debate partners by citing countervailing facts to my own arguement. So while I am personally relieved to have even a brief reprieve from the late resident's multimedia rants I am also increasingly concerned so-called liberals seem eager to employ the same strictures to free expression and free assembly they have been decrying for years. I am often reminded, as my aunt worked most of her life in the State Hospital and I myself daily saw patients who had self-employed or taken on outings to public facilities, of the story of Bedlam Hospital. There it was that a madwoman attempted to assassinate King Charles, who himself went insane shortly after. And another inmate claiming to be a secret agent began telling a rambling, fantastic tale of an evil piece of invisible technology called an "Air Loom" that influenced minds. It was also there a "blogger" of the day interviewed one of the inmates who mocked him for thinking him his better. For, he said: "Only we insane can truly speak out minds without fear. "

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T. Franke link
2/1/2021 03:13:30 am

What I do not understand is the following: Allegedly, Q is only a lonely poster. One guy, posting from time to time some nonsense. How can this build up to such a subtle, deep, detailed, and wide-spread belief?

I have the strong feeling that media does not give us the whole story. It looks like "leading Atlantis experts" who are not leading Atlantis experts, or "thousands of Atlantis searchers around the globe discuss the new theory", well, no: Rather a handful or at maximum some dozens may bother about a new theory who deserve to be called Atlantis searchers, but thousands?! Not really.

Does anybody can help me with my doubts about QAnon?

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Jim
2/1/2021 09:11:26 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531

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T. Franke link
2/2/2021 08:35:04 am

Thank you Jim. QAnon is rather not an organization or something like that. It is nothing which lives for itself. It lives only by persons who live from making it living, so to say.

And they can live from making it living only because of the "how weird" effect. If the anti-Trump media wouldn't have unintentionally (?) promoted the nonsense, it would have faded away quickly. The "how weird" effect is part of the life elixir for QAnon. The same with all the right extremists who felt attracted by Trump: If the media had broadcast Trump's repeated condemnations of white supremacism loud and clear, there never would have been such woodoo around it. Media did a lot to blur the line.

QAnon is kind of an "empty" meme. Its content has no real meaning but only that the message goes on and on, as long as the media will say "how weird".

Rather interesting are real organizations and groups. For example "Proud Boys" and "Oathkeepers". Both are now prosecuted for the Capitol Riots. They came to Washington with plans and equipment to riot. And they did not gather at the Ellipse. Here you can really attribute guilt on the basis of evidence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/nyregion/proud-boys-charged-with-conspiracy-in-capitol-riot.html

Anti-Trumpists should now ask the question whether Trump was behind their plans. Evidence on this basis would be real evidence. Instead, they stick to the ridiculous narrative that Trump incited the crowd at the Ellipse and the crowd spontaneously rioted with bloodthirst in the Capitol, because of Trump's speech. It is embarrasing to which dimensions the anti-Trump hate has increased. And of course: QAnon. Always the murmur and whisper about QAnon in the media. Trump and QAnon. I suggest to stay with realities, instead.

Not to forget the question why there were not enough police although the police was fully aware of the possibility of what actually happened as we know today. It takes two to dance tango. Rioters alone couldn't have entered the Capitol, but would have been prevented from doing so as all rioters at all rallies are prevented by prepared police. Not so here.

Charles Verrastro link
2/1/2021 03:41:57 pm

I don't understand what all the fuss is about the sudden "discovery" of Q. Just before I retired a colleague, a well educated researcher with a Masters no less happened to heard me mention David Ickes. To my surprise she thought I was a kindred spirit and began pouring out all the usual occult conspiratorial trash. But she surprised me by talking about the Q "prophet" (this before he was even using the title). It was actually the father of the one recently named in the press. They ran a cottage industry by posing as the 'publishers' Of Q related material. This is the oldest dodge in the occult world, as Jason knows. From alchemy titles to even further back into antiquity titles put out under an unknown figure have upon research proved to be entirely written by the person who first transmitted the material. What I found odd was that immediately after the assault on the Capital Q shut down with a feeble "See Ya. We had fun, didn't we?" sort of goodbye and a hint to watch for their next 'project'. I can't wait.

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The Rooster
2/1/2021 05:17:58 pm

"These bad ideas give aid and comfort to America’s internal enemies, and it is beyond irresponsible to continue to broadcast hours of interdimensional alien conspiracy programming every week on several of the country’s largest cable channels, and leading streaming services, or to treat their enablers as celebrities or, in the recent case of the New Yorker, as merely “fun.”"

Well? That gets a re-print.

Jake? Simply shut him up. No one should even bring it up. Ever. Again.

Wow?! How'd it get so "Faux-Low"?

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