I was initially reluctant to post about the viral image going around Facebook this week showing what appears to be a side-by-side comparison of an ancient Egyptian image of Isis and a metal duplicate of the same from ancient Ecuador. The photo has been circulating for at least four years, and I had assumed that many would quickly recognize it for what it was. I was wrong, and as the number of people writing to me to ask for an explanation grew, I realized I had write something about the image you’ll see below: The image on the left is a piece of ancient Egyptian art. The image on the right is a hammered sheet metal copy of the same, produced by a local artisan in Ecuador and sold to Father Carlo Crespi (1891-1982) in the late 1960s or early 1970s, according to other appearances of the same item in fringe literature and videos. The Italian-born Catholic priest displayed the item in his three-room museum at the Church of Maria Auxiliadora in Cuenca, Ecuador alongside hundreds of other modern forgeries that he believed demonstrated that Babylonians and Egyptians were the first inhabitants of what is today Ecuador. So, silly me, I shared with some people on Facebook that the Ecuadoran image was from the Crespi collection, which prompted queries asking for proof that Father Crespi’s absurd grouping of modern forgeries was in fact made up of fakes. Here’s where things got interesting. I wasn’t able to immediately provide that information. Neither Skeptical Inquirer nor The Skeptic’s Dictionary had entries for Crespi, and nearly everything written about him online comes from fringe writers. So it seems that a few facts about Father Crespi’s “artifacts” are in order. Father Crespi’s artifacts were nothing more than a local curiosity in Ecuador—encouraged by a government looking to instill pride in the country as the cradle of civilization—until ancient astronaut theorist Erich von Däniken showed up to do research for his third book, Gold of the Gods (1972). A local named Juan Móricz had come to believe that the stories that people were telling about Father Crespi’s cache of golden objects of ancient provenance had lent credence to an idea he developed that impressive natural caves in Ecuador were actually artificial, and had been built by a lost race of giants, who stuffed them full of their treasures. He invited von Däniken to write about the wonders of this cave, and von Däniken later admitted to Playboy magazine that he fabricated his account of his visit to this cave. I’ve told that story before. However, Móricz also took von Däniken to visit the elderly Father Crespi, and it was his account of Crespi’s gold in Gold of the Gods that turned the artifacts into a global phenomenon. In Gold, von Däniken asserts that Crespi’s treasures came from the cave Móricz had found and that it is the “biggest gold treasure” found underground in South America. He claimed that there was a room of stone artifacts, one of mixed precious metals of Incan vintage, and one of antediluvian “gold and pure gold.” “You have to be very strong-willed not to get ‘gold-drunk,’” von Däniken wrote, and he gushed that Crespi had confessed that his gold hoard predated Noah’s Flood! These claims did not go unchallenged. Shortly after the publication of Gold of the Gods the German magazine Der Spiegel published a major issue in 1973 devoted to exposing Erich von Däniken’s “swindle,” and in it they interviewed Juan Móricz, the local Ecuadoran who introduced von Däniken to the supposed cave of golden alien artifacts. In 1974, von Däniken admitted to Playboy that he had not been in the cave (and still later he recanted his confession). Anyway, Móricz was also responsible for taking our author to visit Father Crespi to view his collection. Der Spiegel asked Móricz about the artifacts after the magazine had determined that pieces were fraudulent. Móricz concurred, in my translation: SPIEGEL: In Cuenca, you showed him the collection of Father Crespi. Did you not warn him of the many fake pieces? Von Däniken would later accuse Móricz of lying to discredit him. But that wasn’t all. The previous year, in 1972, Der Spiegel had reported that a scholar named Dr. Hartmann had viewed the artifacts and determined that while there were a few genuine pre-Hispanic stone pieces, most of the metal ones were forgeries made from tin and brass, including a large number of tourist trinkets. Anton Graf Preising concurred that there were a few valuable items among the mounds of forgeries. Danish archaeologist Olaf Holm said that the elderly Crespi wasn’t able to tell tin from silver, or brass from gold. In a second 1973 piece from the same issue attacking von Däniken’s “swindle,” Der Spiegel noted that von Däniken seemed oblivious to the fact that the artifacts he once labeled confidently as “gold” were nothing more than imitation gold, made from sheet metal, copper, brass, and tin, happily calling them gold one minute and the next declaring their exact metallic content irrelevant: The sheet metal and brass that he finds in the backyard of the Church of Maria Auxiliadora of Father Carlo Crespi is for him gold—and subjectively for him at that moment it really is gold. Däniken is not a fraudster. However, later he can, without hesitation and without concern, implausibly wipe away any reference to the tinny facts: “I do not know whether there is gold or not; what is important are the engraved characters.” (my trans.) After this was exposed, von Däniken changed his tune and admitted later that year in In Search of Ancient Gods that the artifacts were “brass, copper, sheet-metal, zinc, tin and wooden objects, and in the midst of them all pure gold.” He admitted, too, that Father Crespi was suffering from what we would today call dementia (James Randi recalled that in the 1960s Crespi was already frail, confused, and believed Hannibal brought elephants to Ecuador), but von Däniken claimed that there was a secret core of genuine artifacts amid all the locally made crap. Weirdly enough, this was pretty much all that was said about Father Crespi for a while. The German pieces made little impact on this side of the Atlantic, and von Däniken’s rebuttal wouldn’t be translated into English for several years, reaching most readers in a 1982 paperback edition. In 1976, Ronald Story, writing in The Space Gods Revealed, an exposé of von Däniken, reported that archaeologist Pino Turolla had traveled to Crespi’s museum and investigated the artifacts found therein. “Turolla has seen the little factory clearing where, he says, the stuff is actually made” from tin, sheet metal, and other pieces of detritus. Worse, Turolla had told the Miami News that he figured out exactly what some of the objects were made from: plumbing supplies. “Once I recognized a copper toilet bowl float in Father Crespi’s collection.” Turolla went on to give a full account of his adventures with Father Crespi in his 1980 book Beyond the Andes. It turns out that all of this could have been avoided had von Däniken just asked James Randi about Father Crespi’s collection. I turns out that in the 1960s, at least five years before von Däniken tramped through, Randi had traveled to Ecuador and Peru in search of the same fictitious “treasure cave” and had also paid a call on Father Crespi, who was happy to show him his collection. Writing in The Flim-Flam! (1980), Randi recalled the scene: I was speechless: not for the same reason as von Däniken, however. The collection was a total, unmitigated fraud from wall to wall. Scraps of tin cans, brass sheets, and copper strips abounded, mixed with piles of rusted chains, shards of armor, and bits of miscellaneous machinery. Some of the brass sheets were embossed and scratched with everything from elephants to dinosaurs. […] I came across a copper float for a toilet tank and an embossed tin can on which the words “product of Argentina” were still visible. Yes, the toilet float was there in the 1960s and stayed for almost twenty years! (To be entirely honest, the correspondence between Randi’s visit to Crespi and Turolla’s is rather astonishing.) Randi found a single golden object, apparently reworked from an ancient piece that had been looted and hammered into a new shape to escape antiquities laws, and then impressed with a crude depiction of a pyramid and flying snakes. That gold object appears in Gold of the Gods. Crespi told both Turolla and Randi that he paid the locals in money, clothes, and indulgences to bring him “artifacts” and had told them that he believed that the Egyptians and Babylonians had settled the Andes. Not surprisingly, local artisans delivered to him imitations of Egyptian and Babylonian art, often copied from books. Crespi, whom Randi felt was gullible and deluded, seemed to have difficulty telling the difference between gold, copper, and tin even in the 1960s, and according to Olaf Holm, that only grew worse by the 1970s.
But thanks to von Däniken, Crespi became a folk hero to fringe history believers, and today you will find not just people who consider him a sort of martyr to diffusionism but also people who think that he was Adolf Hitler, escaped from Germany to preserve the Nazis’ secret knowledge of earth’s true heritage in remote Ecuador. That theory was promoted as early as 1997 by Sean David Morton, the self-described psychic who was charged with fraud, claimed a fake Ph.D., and mysteriously disappeared from Ancient Aliens. He, of course, is now a fringe radio host. It apparently originates with Col. Wendell Stephens, who in 1981 met Crespi and decided he was Hitler, according to fringe sources. But of that part of the story, I know nothing more.
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EP
3/26/2015 07:36:42 am
One of the best posts in a while, Jason. Good job!
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Flashback
3/26/2015 01:51:26 pm
Here from 1977 (poor quality upload but it's the only thing available
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4/7/2015 05:39:11 am
You missed the very best part of this saga: Juan Moritz's claims about a cave in the jungle filled with artifacts led to a British-Ecuadorian exploratory expedition, under Stanley Hall, in about 1976. That expedition was shrouded in mystery, but the Ecuadorian press found it interesting that Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon, was brought in as expedition honorary chairman. Armstrong went down into the caves, and was photographed coming out of them. He wouldn't say anything about what he saw there, and the expedition's findings were not released.... Crespi was just an odd old man on the periphery of this drama.... Eventually Peru and Ecuador went to war over the border region where this cave was, but no one can seem to figure out why they fought.... A lot more investigation is called for! :)
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Marty
7/30/2019 08:34:09 pm
I'm glad you posted this information. No one EVER questioned the validity of Father Crespi until his death. The Ecuadorian Government is VERY closed about letting people into Ecuador, even to the point of charging a $25,000 fee just to travel there because they don't let just anyone live there. This country has lots to hide and there's good reason to try to limit exposure to outsiders. I've followed Father Crespi and the paid "invalidators" never became real until after his death. The astronaut Mason will never tell the truth but continue the deception and fraud. Nothing is where they tell us it is because for the last 1000 years the entire earth has been mined and excavated beyond recognition from descriptions of the Egyptian voyagers who sailed around the world mining gold to England, Spain, France, Switzerland/Holland tearing up the earth trying to build lavish kingdoms for themselves. They will always mark their lies with the number 33 and Neil Armstrong is a 33 degree mason just like all astronauts are. Being a lying cheat pays well, really well and none of them are American citizens that's why they don't have to at taxes. Anyway, it could have been Hitler and I doubt that that old man would save a bunch of unauthentic junk for over 50 years. He was young and intelligent when he began collecting, even going to the caves himself but after age catching up to him would send the children. He was also old enough to know the real history of Ecuador before the liars re-wrote it just like they have everything else. How can people trust the same liars that erased and entire civilization that lived for 2-300 years in the Americas prior to England, France, Switzerland, Spain...gee the same countries that invaded Peru...Ecuador... 🙄😒 I remember when they sent those "explorers" in and I remember how shrouded in secrecy it was and how they then mysteriously now wanted this area sanctioned by government for no one to be able to enter it. Total bullshit from U.S. pussy puppets that sold the people out long ago. Freemasons are cowards and puppets.
CL Palmer
2/24/2016 11:04:34 am
There is a lot of hearsay on both sides of the issue, but I never see any real evidence, except the photos, to back any of it up. I tend to believe that there were some fakes and probably a great deal of real artifacts as well; having been to Ecuador and lived there for years, most Ecuadorians are very respectful of the Catholic Church and would be quite unlikely to rip off a priest. This is especially true of the indigenous people. Also, you use the word fringe a lot to describe people you disagree with--that's just ad hominem and pretty much sums up your argument. Not to be a jerk or anything, but you need more than skepticism to disprove anything. "I can't prove it so it's wrong" isn't a valid argument.
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Karl
3/6/2016 11:20:49 am
"most Ecuadorians are very respectful of the Catholic Church and would be quite unlikely to rip off a priest"
Clint Knapp
3/26/2015 07:55:08 am
Toilet tank floats and Crespi's unassuming generosity aside, I wasn't aware of the retooled gold piece until now. It's rather disheartening to think that there might have been genuine pieces of archaeological significance hammered up and melted down to make some trash to fool an old priest with.
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3/26/2015 07:58:50 am
There must have been a system failure somewhere, but I'm not sure exactly what happened. I have an inquiry in to try to find out.
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EP
3/26/2015 10:13:25 am
It's also eaten several of my posts yesterday and today (an at least one of Shane's, as I recall).
EP
3/26/2015 10:19:53 am
The missing comments from yesterday are mine and Shane's. They disappeared somewhere but the count remained unchanged. Ditto for two of my comments in this thread (which it said were posted successfully but didn't even appear).
Scott Hamilton
3/26/2015 08:56:31 am
Heh. The second time today I read about Juan Moricz.
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Clint Knapp
3/26/2015 10:00:41 am
The gold ears of corn, at least, seem likely to be cribbed from the legend surrounding Pizarro's ransom price for Atahualpa's release.
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EP
3/26/2015 10:10:28 am
"nor could thousands of men"
Clint Knapp
3/26/2015 10:35:38 am
More appropriately, the text of the Blake quote as propagated through various treasure hunting books and websites:
Clint Knapp
3/26/2015 02:45:21 pm
Let's try this again since the last response was eaten and it seems a few are making it through now...
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Shane Sullivan
3/26/2015 09:00:25 am
Jason, how you can believe that pyramid image is anything other than an authentic depiction of the famed Floating Cats of Giza dating back to Pharaonic times is totally shocking to me. =P
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Alaric
3/26/2015 09:54:34 am
Cat images! Proof that the ancients had internet!
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Alaric
3/26/2015 10:04:28 am
Actually, those are normal-sized elephants. The cats are giant cats. "There were giants in those days" doesn't specify HUMAN giants.
Bob Jase
3/26/2015 12:11:48 pm
Cats! Proof that ancient Egypt had contact with Ulthar.
Hypatia
3/27/2015 05:17:59 am
Yes, those tiny elephants are so cute! I'm sorry they destroyed a real artifact, but this is also a work of art.
Alaric
3/27/2015 09:52:01 am
Actually, those a regular-sized elephants. The cats are giants cats. "There were giants in the Earth in those days..." They never specified HUMAN giants...
EP
3/26/2015 09:55:04 am
I like the tiny elephants :)
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3/26/2015 10:41:27 am
To everyone: The comments aren't working right, and for some reason, comments are disappearing. I'm working with Weebly on the issue, but it might take a while to fix.
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Uncle Ron
3/26/2015 02:13:37 pm
This comment has disappeared!
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Hypatia
3/27/2015 05:07:23 am
..flushed out into the internetian black hole
Clete
3/27/2015 04:25:45 am
About six months ago I had to fix my toilet. In doing so, I threw away the old copper toilet float, unaware that I was throwing away a valuable ancient artifact. I should have kept it and sent it to Erich Von Daniken. He probably could have gotten another book out of it, "Plumbing fixtures of the Gods."
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tm
3/27/2015 04:51:11 am
Oh, now I get it. Those stories in which people saw an ancient alien fly were translated incorrectly. They actually said they saw an ancient alien float!
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EP
3/27/2015 05:02:18 am
I just wanna post goddammit! Stupid Weebly!
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Hypatia
3/27/2015 05:23:57 am
...testing...1.2.3...
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EP
3/27/2015 05:25:54 am
My comments! My witty, erudite comments! NOOOOOO!!!
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Shane Sullivan
3/27/2015 05:45:09 am
I know, man, I posted yesterday in that Thorwald thread that we couldn't prove that there wasn't a man from Nantucket, only that his incredible genitals hadn't yet been discovered. That post never went through, and now the world has been deprived of that masterpiece!
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Clint Knapp
3/27/2015 06:17:34 am
And this one is a reply to Shane. For testing purposes...
Clint Knapp
3/27/2015 06:15:56 am
If it helps, I think I've spotted a pattern in the comment failures. The nesting is screwed up. My second post in the "golden ears of corn" comment above was actually a reply to Scott's post, not to my own, but it renders as a reply to my reply...
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Clint Knapp
3/27/2015 06:18:31 am
Yep. I also tried to reply to Shane's just after that one. It didn't render at all, and this again is a reply to EP.
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Shane Sullivan
3/27/2015 06:26:35 am
I noticed replies were going well beyond the usual second degree. They all have a reply button, too.
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rw
3/27/2015 06:38:47 am
it seems that weebly has been losing your witty, erudite comments for quite some time. inexplicably, your other comments always manage to get posted.
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EP
3/27/2015 07:20:11 am
That was a pretty good one, rw, even if I did kinda leave the door wide open :)
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EP
3/27/2015 07:23:22 am
Weebly may not be the Hitler of blogging platforms, but it's definitely the Father Crespi of blogging platforms :)
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Alaric
3/27/2015 09:54:01 am
The witty comment I tried posting yesterday still disappears when I post it. Something out there doesn't appreciate my sense of humor.
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Joanne
3/28/2015 03:04:43 am
An excellent critique. Incidentally, Amazon delivered my copy of your new anthology, "Foundations of Atlantis, Astronauts and Other Alternative Pasts". I am barely into the depths of it, but I reviewed the index, table of contents, intro, and a few of the texts. It is wonderful and fascinating. Thanks for your approach - you identify and offer translations of old texts accurately and honestly, without a personal agenda.
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3/28/2015 10:48:38 am
JASON SAID:
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3/28/2015 11:52:03 am
I appreciate you thinking you're the only one to have been discussing that picture, but you were one of at least four threads where I was commenting on that same picture, and I received a number of private messages, too, asking for more information about Crespi. Your assumption that I am necessarily referring only to you is a microcosm of your own assumptions.
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3/28/2015 08:44:56 pm
Jason, 3/29/2015 04:10:33 am
Jason, 3/29/2015 04:11:08 am
Jason,
terry the censor
4/20/2015 04:32:58 pm
@Scotty R
Clint Knapp
3/28/2015 12:58:01 pm
Scotty,
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EP
3/28/2015 04:11:24 pm
ITT: Scotty Roberts begging to be reminded that no matter how hard he tries he cannot escape the fact that he is part of the "woo-community". (And a painfully mediocre one at that.)
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EP
3/28/2015 04:17:20 pm
"Your assumption that I am necessarily referring only to you is a microcosm of your own assumptions."
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3/29/2015 04:11:38 am
Jason,
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Clint Knapp
3/29/2015 06:16:27 am
You really have issues with reading comprehension, don't you, Scotty?
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3/29/2015 07:54:39 am
Hypatia,
Hypatia
3/29/2015 06:39:42 am
It depends on your new definition of 'journalist.' In the olden days, when there was a first amendment, journalists were supposed to ask critical questions and record the answers, not just record people's orations and opine.
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Hypatia
3/29/2015 06:57:25 am
-correction-
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3/29/2015 07:56:42 am
Hypatia,
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3/29/2015 07:59:04 am
I should also add that, in general, Jason shouldn't "bother" writing criticisms without first applying some rules of objectivity - which he claims he has, but in actuality, does not practice.
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EP
3/29/2015 12:00:52 pm
Tell us more about these "rules of objectivity", Scotty. I'm sure you have many deep philosophical insights to share.
terry the censor
4/20/2015 04:37:05 pm
@Scotty R.
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Only Me
3/29/2015 09:57:37 am
Scotty, I don't think you're being fair toward Jason.
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3/29/2015 01:04:33 pm
You are right, Only Me - you too, Clint.
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3/29/2015 01:40:17 pm
Only Me,
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Only Me
3/29/2015 01:41:38 pm
I understand, Scotty. I also understand Jason has been writing about fringe topics longer than I've been a reader here, so, I would imagine there's a tendency to write each new blog post with filters in place (trying not to do this is the real challenge!). One can only revisit the same themes so many times before it becomes monotonous.
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EP
3/29/2015 11:31:20 am
Scotty, if you want people to take you seriously, you should have thought about it before writing about Reptilians, drawing anthropomorphized bunnies, and hanging out with ghost hunters and dowsers.
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3/29/2015 01:31:14 pm
EP,
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EP
3/29/2015 02:11:37 pm
"engaging in paranormal investigation and dowsing somehow disqualifies me from being a critical thinker with an reasoned opinion.... how?"
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3/29/2015 02:22:40 pm
And, once again, EP, you avoid clarifying your position on anthropomorphized literature.
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EP
3/29/2015 04:10:39 pm
"once again, EP, you avoid clarifying your position on anthropomorphized literature."
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3/30/2015 12:30:55 am
It hardly matters, anyway, EP, as you operate under an hypocrisy.
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Hypatia
3/30/2015 04:01:38 am
Scotty, if you cannot edit down your personal attacks to one sentence, please refrain.
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3/30/2015 04:12:43 am
And Hypatia, is it safe to assume that you want the "one sentence" rule to apply to EVERYONE who posts here? Look above...
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EP
3/30/2015 06:28:14 am
Hypatia, I've edited my response to Scotty's personal attacks down to zero sentences. Am I doing good? :)
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BP
3/30/2015 09:39:32 am
I read a book about Crespi in the late 70s early 80s. It was this badly produced thing that looked like it a photocopy. The pictures in it were equally bad. I loved the fact that many of his artifacts were things like cogs and other misc industrial junk. Funny to see this crazy from the past raise its head again.
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J. Lyon Layden
3/5/2016 12:10:31 pm
Well, good job providing clarification on this story, there is very little other than the fringe sites.
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James
4/17/2016 01:06:25 am
Thanks for the info. I came across Fr. Crespi in James Rollins' new novel Bone Labyrinth and immediately thought the collection was a hoax. There is very little legitimate information about him, with outlandish theories stating that he was Hitler, or linking the collection with ancient aliens or antediluvian civilizations and whatnot. Glad this article set the record straight: the collection is a complete hoax.
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12/3/2017 09:21:03 am
The squatty potty is a stool that is designed to fit around the front of a standard toiletbowl, providing lift to your legs and resulting in a squatting-type position rather than sitting position ...... I want to buy one just to say thank you for making the most awesome ice cream pooping unicorn commercial of all time!!
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steve
11/24/2018 01:49:43 am
revisa esto
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Kumar
11/10/2024 03:01:31 am
That's the problem with mainstream white people historians, truth Finders and theorists. Any thing which is against Eurocentric white supremacy is labelled fringe, without proof etc. Even an iota of evidence is unquestionably accepted if it supports white supremacists ideologies..
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