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FBI Investigating Russian Connection to InfoWars: Why Do So Many Outlets Tied to Russia Back Ancient Astronaut and UFO Conspiracies?

3/22/2017

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​A few weeks ago, the Los Angeles Review of Books published a brief summary of the contents of a 2016 volume called The Age of Lovecraft, but it was reviewer and Ph.D. candidate Alison Sperling’s opening line that caught my attention: “As a feminist, I am reluctant, at times, to admit to friends and academic colleagues that I appreciate H. P. Lovecraft’s work.” I found that to be a bit of an astonishing statement, largely because it, and the sentences decrying Lovecraft’s racism and sexism which followed, suggest that even among academics who should know better there is a sort of perverse identification of reader and writer, as though one’s choice of literature reveals the darkest part of one’s soul. I’ve always found that to be strange because so many of works of great literature came from the pens of people who were, by contemporary standards, miserable human beings. But even leaving that aside, could you imagine an archaeologist, for example, saying that “As someone who values human life, I am ashamed to admit that I enjoy researching Aztec culture” because of their record of human sacrifice? Of course, on the other hand we might look askance at a film student who professes not just technical admiration but love for the works of Leni Riefenstahl. 
​The question, then, is how much of our enjoyment of a cultural product should be read as an endorsement of its underlying themes and motifs. This is a question that came up when I was reading so-called “alt-right” intellectual Jason Reza Jorjani’s Prometheus and Atlas, which expressed admiration for a laundry list of Nazi and Nazi-adjacent philosophers. I wasn’t sure how much to say about that in reviewing the book for an academic journal, but in the end I decided that the overwhelming pattern of citing almost exclusively these Nazi-adjacent thinkers strongly implied authorial endorsement. In the case of the average person who likes Lovecraft, though, unless that person has a broad pattern of enjoying racist literature, I don’t think Lovecraftian fiction alone is a cause for concern.
 
What is concerning, however, are media reports this week that the FBI’s investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election has expanded to potential ties to Alex Jones’s InfoWars, specifically in terms of whether Russian bots were deployed to amplify the social media reach of selected stories. Let’s state upfront that there is no evidence as yet that Russia is connected to creating content for InfoWars, but I can’t help but note that InfoWars offers up the same UFO, Reptilian, and Nephilim conspiracies as the Kremlin-backed propaganda channel RT and Russian news site Sputnik News, which are also the subject of the FBI’s inquiry into the web of right-wing news and its ties back to Moscow. Alex Jones has been a frequent RT guest, with the Russian propaganda network using him to promote a range of anti-American conspiracy theories such as FEMA death camps. This is doubly interesting because of the longstanding pattern of ufologists, ancient astronaut theorists, and other fringe types using material originating in Soviet and Russian propaganda as part of their efforts to undermine trust in the U.S. government through dark conspiracies about America’s evil efforts to suppress the “truth.”
 
RT’s promotion of UFO conspiracies—a regular feature of their broadcasts—seems to be a rather direct successor to the Soviet promotion of ufology and ancient astronaut theories at a similar moment of heightened tensions with the United States. In the 1950s and 1960s, the Russian government fed a regular diet of bizarre claims, first to conspiracy theorists and fringe writers in Europe, and then directly to the American public. They operated through official propaganda organs such as Sputnik magazine and Soviet Life magazine, and through seemingly backchannel methods, such as when Soviet authorities allowed their scientist, I. S. Shklovskii, to collaborate with American scientist Carl Sagan on Intelligent Life in the Universe, a book which gave intellectual cover to the ancient astronaut theory for a generation. (Both Erich von Däniken and Robert Temple cited it for support.) Most biographers assume that the collaboration was intended as a statement against Cold War divisions, but it seems impossible that Soviet authorities would not have been aware of and encouraged the collaboration, which occurred entirely by mail, not least because it began when Sagan sent Shklovskii a copy of his 1961 article that speculated on the existence of ancient astronauts, a topic the Soviets had been promoting in the years prior by making the work of Matest M. Agrest, among others, available to European writers. Besides, Soviet authorities were known to exert rather strict control over Shklovskii, an astronomer employed by the state, whom they refused to let leave the country to meet Sagan. I am afraid I can’t share the biographers’ rather naïve optimism about Sagan breaking barriers and showing the world a better way to overcome East-West divisions. Surely the Soviet authorities read Shklovskii’s mail, too, and chose to allow collaboration because of the subject matter that they wanted to find a broader audience. Even Sagan, in his part of the book, written where Soviet censors could not touch it, acknowledged that the Soviet state believed that promoting belief in space aliens was an essential state interest. He thought it was because aliens were necessary to prove Marxism true (because dialectical materialism requires life everywhere, for some reason I don’t care about), but it could equally well be argued that promoting a belief in aliens, whether or not they exist, served to undermine faith in Western religious traditions and also the honesty and integrity of Western governments that failed to admit or report such “revelations.”
 
I don’t think it’s much different today. Ancient astronaut theorists routinely spout Russian propaganda, notably David Wilcock with his “secret” Russian sources, but even Ancient Aliens has devoted episodes to retelling Soviet and Russian space alien claims, all of which must be treated as propaganda until proven otherwise due to the level of control that the Russian government asserts over those who are current or former government employees. The RT network, as well as Russian publications like the new Sputnik, routinely publish UFO and ancient astronaut claims, seemingly for no newsworthy reason. They aren’t “popular” the way that, say, celebrity gossip or a goofy cat video might be, but they go viral where it counts: among the right-wing fever swamps of InfoWars and the paranoid fringe, bringing viewers into the network and opening them to more explicitly pro-Russian propaganda. They also serve the same purpose: to undermine the integrity of science, and by extension objective reality, something that the Putin government has long tried to overcome. Putin’s government has systematically undercut Russian science, promoting conspiracy theories and crackpot fringe ideas. They are useful because of their political, not scientific, value. They corrode and destroy resistance to propaganda by undermining the notion of “truth.” It probably doesn’t hurt that they also bring in young male audiences attracted to the nutty ideas and who can then be propagandized.
 
It's probably important to note once again that there is no public evidence that Russia is paying off conspiracy theorists or creating UFO, ancient astronaut, or Nephilim conspiracies. Instead, the evidence available right now makes it look like Russia is employing useful conspiracies through official and unofficial networks of support.
40 Comments
Andy White
3/22/2017 10:28:11 am

I had similar thoughts when I watched the news last night: I wonder if the Russians have been involved in planting/promoting a wide variety of nonsense stories for a long time. Doing so would have certainly helped them understand the internet information battlefield.

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Only Me
3/22/2017 11:15:58 am

In regards to the first story, I've often found people who are more comfortable with groupthink on a range of subjects will have a guilty pleasure they are ashamed to admit enjoying. Kind of like a guy not wanting his circle of friends to know he actually enjoys the occasional chick flick because manliness. It's silly, of course.

The Russian influence within AAT, UFO and Nephilim circles doesn't surprise me.

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Shane Sullivan
3/22/2017 11:23:16 am

"...(because dialectical materialism requires life everywhere, for some reason I don’t care about)..."

This is my new favorite line by anyone ever!

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PostModernPrimate
3/22/2017 02:07:05 pm

It's a good line, but I'm not sure where Jason is getting that from. Dialectical materialism, at least in so far as Marx's work is concerned, makes no such claim.

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Jason Colavito link
3/22/2017 02:14:16 pm

It's not my idea. It is how a biography of Sagan characterized Sagan's views on Marxism and extraterrestrials. I don't have Sagan's book on hand to find out his exact wording.

At Risk
3/22/2017 12:18:13 pm

"...but it could equally well be argued that promoting a belief in aliens, whether or not they exist, served to undermine faith in Western religious traditions...."

Funny how this is past-tense, but it brings one full-circle back to the present notion by some that aliens--that is, the notion of bad aliens--has to do with the present and future undermining of Western religious traditions. Samo, samo. Like, to prepare minds for future outbursts of alien activity in the skies, and to fool people, if possible.

I'm curious about how the Russians have apparently considered aliens in a non-domonic way, while some Americans consider/ed them as such. If the Russians don't believe in "spiritual life," then I guess they can't attribute aliens to imposter demons. How these two mindsets clash or don't clash may be interesting. For instance, I wonder if Russians probably believe in "phychic" outcomes, but not in spiritual entities, because of their lack of religion?

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At Risk
3/22/2017 12:58:59 pm

While speaking of internet information battlefields, may we for now suppose that aliens left this strange object on Runestone Hill, or could it have been the Russians?

This may be interesting to anyone who enjoys working with hot metal, and it comes with a $50.00 reward to whomever "figures it out."

http://hallmarkemporium.com/kensingtonrunestone/id25.html

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BigNick
3/22/2017 03:58:52 pm

1. Not the topic of the day
2. I've had steel pipes in the ground for twenty years crumble in my hand. Unprotected steel and rust begin to oxidize almost immediately under ground. Jumping to the conclusions the author of that site made are the definition of fringe

Paul S.
3/22/2017 12:59:04 pm

I wouldn't assume that Russians are necessarily non-religious today, though. From what I've read the Russian Orthodox Church has revived over the past 20 years or so and now enjoys quite a bit of support from Putin's government. Church and government share a desire to promote certain conservative social policies, such as a hostility to homosexuality.*. I don't know, however, if the Russian Orthodox Church has any official position on aliens or whether they might exist or whether they are demons in disguise.

Come to think of it, I've read that the Soviets were pretty harsh on open homosexuals, often sending them to prison or labor camps. I don't think there's ever been a good time to be openly homosexual in Russia.

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Lurking for Years
3/22/2017 04:06:45 pm

AR, your posts have become increasingly more ridiculous, as well as frequent. Many, many others have criticized your thread hogging, but you are NEVER going to stop posting about that G-D KRS every day, are you? But the real insult?-demons. Demons? Many posters here have significant knowledge of history, science, data analysis, statistics, etc, and some of us even have masters and/or doctoral level degrees in the hard sciences. That you continue to seriously bring up demons and your other childish, or fringe topic du jour is an insult to all of us. About time in your psych cycle for you to cry about cyber bullying, isn't it, issue some threats, name call, and bluster about? But you will be back, stone holing and KRS-ing us all to death. Spare me your insults, you are laughable.

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Claude Falkstrom
3/22/2017 05:45:55 pm

"Alex Jones has been a frequent RT guest"
How often ? Do you have numbers ?

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Jason Colavito link
3/22/2017 06:15:48 pm

According to media reports, Jones was a frequent guest prior to 2014 (I personally know of at least 4 appearances I have seen, but there were certainly more), but he stopped appearing after that. Jones appeared on Putin-allied Tsargrad TV more recently, and in December an RT personality said that Vladimir Putin is a frequent viewer of InfoWars. Apparently, Jones began having RT personalities on his show as guests, and Russian media personalities responded with fawning praise of Jones's role in promoting Trump and conspiracies.

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Titus pullo
3/22/2017 07:58:38 pm

As an old timer who went to college in the 80s. I find the lefts obsession with Russians behind every lamp to be ironic to say the least. Yes the left who defended Stalin and unilateral disarmament. Now had a boggy man. Vladimir Putin. A country with a gdp about that of Spain is a exesstantial threat to Ametica? Seriously! Hey who funded the no nuke movement back in the early 80? Look lefties u guys lost get over it. Or does this have to do with the czar and the loss of influence by intellectuals in the ussr and the subsequent immigration to the US and radicaliztion by these red diaper babies in the media and academia? The usual suspects peddling this garbage have attacked with abandon anyone threatening liberty and nonintervention.

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Titus pullo
3/22/2017 08:00:23 pm

Slight edit, the left hates liberty and nonintervention.

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Gilbert marx
12/17/2018 05:14:24 pm

Did you read the article? You seem to have dropped your brain off at the pool before you got home and wiped the mucus of your keyboard.

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Americanegro
3/22/2017 09:16:39 pm

"AR, your posts have become increasingly more ridiculous, as well as frequent. ... That you continue to seriously bring up demons and your other childish, or fringe topic du jour is an insult to all of us. About time in your psych cycle for you to cry about cyber bullying, isn't it, issue some threats, name call, and bluster about? But you will be back, stone holing and KRS-ing us all to death. Spare me your insults, you are laughable."

I think after serious and sober-minded consideration that At Risk is himself a demon. He has a Jezebel spirit within him, a spirit of greed, a spirit of destruction. I bind thee with chains of divine iron Jezebel!

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At Risk
3/22/2017 10:20:04 pm

Lurking for Years, BigNick, Americanegro (that's just here, now) previously Joe Scales, Mike Morgan, previous to that, EP and Mr. Lister who has had an obsession with Wolter for years. Right now, Scott is lying somewhat low, so this over-the-board internet stalker and troll is now following and attacking me. This happened at Andy White's blog also, and he was fooled and ended up turning against me, which is why I thought about offering my reward on this site (while he was visiting) rather than attempt to learn more about a gizmo from readers at his website. Freedom of speech is limited over on his blog for me, while one troll with many names goes into attack mode again, here. This is a behind-the-scenes history lesson, folks, and the reason our new, beautiful First Lady will go into attack mode against hateful and destructive cyber-bullies, like Mr. Lister…a biker from the West Coast…and not an Americanegro, as I’ve seen a photo of Mr. Lister. Lurking for Years, you’re not the hidden super-hero-skeptic you think you are…you’re just a nasty, long-term cyber-bully with obsessions, so maybe you should consider finally giving it up here. Pretty laughable stuff, you say, huh?

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BigNick
3/22/2017 10:51:39 pm

1. If you look at the blog posts in the last few weeks you will see that Americanegro accused me of not knowing where anglo-saxons came from and did not get my hilarious ancient Egyptian flying buttress joke. We are not the same person .
2. I have been nothing but polite to you. I have respectfully asked you questions. I don't appreciate being accused of being a cyber-bully. I don't bully and certainly wouldn't bully a veteran.
3. You have a rock that tested as iron ore. You found it in the ground. Amazing! Let's assume that it was worked iron. Here are some possibilities you are ignoring: 20th century metal workers, 19th century metal workers. Untreated steel will return to its natural state when exposed to elements if not protected. I have literally had gas mains blow apart in my face because they were not wrapped it does not take long. I've found horshoes that are rusted out and falling apart at 120 or so years old. I'm not saying you are not right I am saying you are jumping to conclusions. I don't know either.

Anyway best of luck to you. Remember Galileo was fringe once, too.

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V
3/23/2017 12:21:43 am

Titus Pullo, I just love it when conservative jackasses whine about how "the left just lost, let it go," when they spent all eight years of Obama's presidency whining about how Obama wasn't a legit president because OMG HE WAS BORN IN KENYA even though that was a hard-core proven LIE. Look, this country was founded by bitchers on principles of bitching. If you don't want to listen to the bitching, move to a quieter country and stay off the Internet, because I'm not going to stop bitching and I'm not going to stop working to get the incompetent asswipe in the Oval Office OUT again before he causes the next World War--or the next American Civil War--with his blatant lies, disgusting corruption, and nauseating self-centered bigotry. And frankly, if you're on his side despite all that, as far as I'm concerned, you need to go, too. And every time you sit here and say that I don't have the right to do what I'm doing? It's not ME attacking liberty.

Lurking For Years, oh look, you called it. At Risk DID start whining about how you're a cyber bully for calling his bullshit what everyone can smell that it is. Adding his unseemly lust for a married woman into the mix as seems common of late, as if anyone's going to stop just because a Russian Barbie doll might frown at them.

Don't get me wrong, I have a great deal of pity for Melania Trump, but she's made it VERY clear she really wants no parts of the political scene, which includes the fact that she will do as little as remotely possible about the cause she was forced to select in a desperate bid to keep her husband from looking as bad as he really is, so I don't know what the hell more than frowning At Risk expects her "full attack mode" to actually BE.

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Americanegro
3/23/2017 01:05:54 am

As I predicted under one of my many aliases, Mr. Risk has chosen to make an accusation of cyber-bullying. Which demon was doing the driving when you typed that Mr. Risk? Because with demons, it's come one, come all. You need to find an exorcist who's qualified to tent you because you seem to be infested.

You're no Rev. Gary Poetsch, that's for sure. How do you sleep with all those demons in your head? "I got kicked off of someone's blog" is not a thing that should go on your resume. I'd like to hear Prof. White's account of how he "turned against" you. It's so cute that you think all the people hinting and/or saying that you just might be a buffoon (or a demon) are really just one person, because the demons make you think that you're so wonderful it's impossible that there could be two or more people calling you out on your BS. I'm talking cattle not coffee.

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Only Me
3/23/2017 01:26:46 am

AMERICANEGRO, check out the following link:

http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/drilling-blasting-and-explaining-the-surviving-stone-holes-of-minnesota-lightning-post

The relevant comment from Andy is:

Andy White

10/29/2016 11:59:39 am

Gunn,

I have officially reached the end of my patience. Now that you've moved from insulting me to threatening me, it's time for you to stop commenting on my blog. Your comments are no longer welcome. I will delete all future comments from you.

I don't do this lightly: you're the first person I've banned from my blog.

Please move on.

Sorry I had to leave a separate comment. For some reason, I wasn't able to use the reply option.

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David Bradbury
3/23/2017 04:40:53 am

REPLY doesn't seem to work for me either this morning

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At Risk
3/23/2017 10:28:41 am

Yes, the reply didn't work last evening either.

And yes, it's true that Andy and I had a disagreement after the same blog troll showed up at his website. Everything was peaceful until the troll showed up, like here.

There's a big difference between an occasional blog nuisance and a blog criminal, practicing cyber-bullying. That's what this is about. Why does Joe Scales have to use several psuedonyms in the same blog thread-line? Isn't just one repugnant, attacking voice enough?

Joe, you're not a super-hero-skeptic rescuing this blog from a fringer, any more than you were when arriving at Andy's blog to attempt consternation there...which worked. I guess academic types may like the idea of trolls attacking commenting fringe guests.

One thing positive I can say about Wolter is that he controls his website without letting rancor get out of control from an invading troll. One thing positive I can say about Jason is he allows for freedom of speech here, generally. The question is, when to pull the plug on cyber-bullying, when someone shows up to attack instead of adding anything.

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At Risk
3/23/2017 10:42:46 am

You just added a lot, too, Only Me. Can either you or Andy explain how I threatened him? This is a fabrication. The big problem at Andy's site was that after he welcomed me as a guest fringer, he felt a need to get side-tracked into Tom Trow's lame explanation for all the "unblasted" stoneholes. Andy's "Forbidden Archaelogy" class turned out to actually be forbidden archaelogy. This would be funny if not so disturbing. Are you enjoying yourself, Only Me. Attack mode is fun, huh?

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Jim
3/23/2017 11:23:45 am

At Risk; " Can either you or Andy explain how I threatened him? "
Yes, Andy obviously deleted some comments. Specifically the one where you threatened to bring this to the attention of the University where he is employed, your only purpose was to cause trouble for Andy.

Just give it a rest Gunn, stop hijacking every comment section on Jasons Blog ! Start your on blog or facebook page !
As has been said time and again all this is off topic.

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Andy White
3/23/2017 11:26:20 am

Gunn,

Here is a definition of "threat:"

"a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done."

I interpret this statement as a threat:

"I'm still very much considering bringing this misbehavior of yours to the U's attention, as I believe your attitude needs to be tweeked. I don't think they will approve of how you've conducted yourself. So far, you've exhibited a flippant attitude over this, and that will need to change."

That was an email from you to me.

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V
3/23/2017 01:33:06 pm

" The question is, when to pull the plug on cyber-bullying, when someone shows up to attack instead of adding anything. "

The rest of us often wonder the same thing, and wonder why you are allowed to stay, with your constant thread hijacking and your constant wild threats and nastiness toward anyone who DARES to disagree with you, regardless of how polite they are. That's why I don't waste manners on you anymore--you're a repugnant cave-dwelling rock troll, and since you're going to heap abuse on my head regardless, I'm at least going to do something worth it.

You are an uneducated moron, sir. You continually insist that your ill-researched opinion is superior to those of trained and educated professionals in the field or archeology, then throw childish temper tantrums and threaten to bring down "the First Lady" on people who challenge you to provide even the slightest evidence of what you have to say. Every single one of us wishes you would just GO AWAY and, like, die in a hole somewhere or something. Or just go off the grid completely and disappear in the Alaskan wilderness. ANYTHING, as long as it's not HERE, being an obnoxious nuisance to the rest of us. You add NOTHING to the discussions here, and you derail everything to the best of your ability. And you're so incapable of accepting responsibility for your own actions that you insist that there is only one single person who dislikes you, instead of recognizing that there are MANY of us.

Well, dude, I'm not AmericaNegro--I don't actually much like him, either, but at least he stays on target. I'm not Lurking for Years, BigNick, Joe Scales, Mike Morgan, EP, Mr. Lister, or Only Me. Even if one were to accept ALL those others were one person--which they aren't--there are still at least two people who wish you would just step the HELL off and GET LOST.

Suck it up, you overgrown toddler, and act like an adult! You're a disgrace to veterans everywhere. And guess what the most delicious irony is? YOU fought for MY right to tell you so, and if you try to tell me I can't say it, then you're violating everything you put your life on the line for.

Go ahead. I dare you. We will see who the bully REALLY is.

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E.P. Grondine
3/23/2017 01:51:55 pm

You brought them a legitimate challenge: prove that any of the holes were not made in Minnesota colonial times, and for various reasons some of them took that as a threat, and responded with an ad hominem attack.

I would add that I think it is likely that some of holes were drilled to hold traps, in addition to those drilled for blasting.

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At Risk
3/23/2017 02:00:36 pm

Andy, nothing here constitutes a threat...only a perceived threat by you. "...to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action...."

Nothing I said in my formerly private email to you can be considered as a threat. If I thought it was a good idea for your actions to be made aware of to your employer, that can stand on it's own, whether or not you say or do anything. My intentions are not and never were to inflict pain to you. My intentions are not and have never been to cause you injury...only corrective action. I've never tried to damage you; you damaged yourself. My actions have never been hostile, either. I tried to convince you to redeem your improper behavior, but any threat was in your mind, not an intention of mine. Intent, dude.

I guess I could have promised to make your superiors aware of your actions and bad attitude, then you may not have misconstrued my words as a threat. My intention was to remedy the situation, not make idle "threats," and, frankly, it's still not beyond my field of vision--and clearly not a threat--to share these blog comments of yours with your superiors--which wouldn't be as disrespectful--and unprofessional--as sharing a private email in a public forum from someone without permission.

In my opinion, you're a good sculptor of metal, but a poor teacher. But then, everyone has opinions, right?

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Andy White
3/23/2017 02:25:54 pm

Gunn,

In your comment above you wrote "Can either you or Andy explain how I threatened him?" I was answering your question.

Do you what you feel you need to do. I remain uninterested in discussing anything with you at this point, for what I think are obvious reasons.

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DanD
3/23/2017 02:31:05 pm

You sir are delusional, a weasel and a hypocrite.

As mentioned above the same threat by you was posted in one of your comments on Andy's blog that was viewed by the public, although deleted by Andy.

Many of us have good memories of your behavior.

If you don't think contacting a employer to tweak an employee's conduct on his on blog isn't a threat, then there is no help for you.



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Mandalore
3/23/2017 02:38:50 pm

Is this the moment I have been waiting for? Will this be the event that causes Gunn/At Risk to pack up his toys and leave in a huff? I've been on pins and needles waiting for the repeat of History.

It's so close...



P.S. BigNick, that's exactly what I he did to me when I tried to have a genuine conversation with him a long time ago. When he can't answer questions or deal with criticism of his ideas, he resorts to personal attacks.

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At Risk
3/23/2017 03:01:50 pm

Andy, there's nothing threatening about suggesting the possibility of contacting the employer of someone in a professional role who isn't acting professionally, in order to seek a change in behavior. This is done all the time. When I came to the current blog today (not this one), I responded good-naturedly to your comment about stoneholes. I thought things were cool. Then I went to this blog and saw what you caused here. Not cool. You've riled the trolls...for what reason? To join them?

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Americanegro
3/23/2017 03:37:11 pm

Mr. Risk,

I get it now. Joe Scales is your Tyler Durden. You're now channeling Denzel at the very end of Training Day. Enjoy, Demon!

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Americanegro
3/23/2017 04:33:14 pm

ONLY ME, thanks for posting the link.

http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/drilling-blasting-and-explaining-the-surviving-stone-holes-of-minnesota-lightning-post

If time is short one can simply search for "repugnant" and start reading from there to get a good picture of Mr. Risk's Demonic threats.

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Only Me
3/23/2017 04:59:06 pm

You're welcome, AMERICANEGRO. Andy's a busy guy doing actual science, so, I thought I could give you the info you requested before he could.

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Akhid
3/24/2017 09:41:31 am

I can't wait to see this lying bastard Alex Jones to swing from the rope for treason na next to cheeto in charge.

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Klaus
3/24/2017 12:05:46 pm

Gun, get a life, hopefully elsewhere ..
Jason, I strongly feel a vote would result in 1:all else for banning him
Why not just stop feeding the troll ...

Klaus

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Lurking for Years
3/24/2017 03:02:41 pm

"You're not the hidden super hero skeptic you think your are". Hidden? Yes, I read everything here, and seldom feel the need to comment. Know why? Because my expertise is not in the topics usually presented on this website. Many of the posters are so much more knowledgeable about most of these topics than I am; I respect their more relevant education, and often recognize I could only add chaff. Hero skeptic? Nope, just sick of wading through your offal, which is not based upon scholarly reasoning, but rather, on wishful, illogical, nonlinear, magical thinking.
"Nasty long term cyber bully with obsessions".This is my 3rd posting, in 5 years. How many times have YOU posted, just today? And "obsessions"? That is some real irony, coming from you! Another poster mentioned not bothering you because you are a veteran. Of Viet NON? My son is a military veteran-- you know, (or don't) foreign deployment, combat zone. He never mentions it to non-family.

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Byron DeLear
3/27/2017 03:26:55 am

The millions of digital sock puppets and bots spreading fake news to undermine democracy in the guise of "alt-truth" or whatever is a real threat exploiting divisions, fostering distrust, and offers a glimpse of a real dystopian future if we don't discover a way to block the poison. People are getting off on the crazy hit pieces and exaggerated partisanship playing right into the hands of our enemies. I know many here have probably read about the asymmetrical war being waged against America, shutting down one candidate in favor of the other, sowing cray cray all throughout the land to basically normalize insanity into our lives so nothing means anything anymore, but here is a good breakdown on the Russian propaganda war being levied against Europe and America. The fact that many Trump supporters are willingly blind to this threat from a foreign state is exceedingly sad and dangerous.

"The Kremlin’s overall strategy to dismantle the Western alliance is best encapsulated in a 2013 Russian military journal article, where what’s since become known as the “Gerasimov Doctrine” was laid down in writing. Adopting tactics of subterfuge traditionally associated with “non-linear” or “hybrid” war, the doctrine calls for the use of non-military over military measures by a four-to-one ratio, thus allowing a conventionally weaker power like Russia (whose military budget is one-tenth that of NATO’s) to fight asymmetrically by exploiting its adversaries’ weaknesses. Ignored at the time of the article’s publication, the Gerasimov Doctrine was essentially the blueprint for Russia’s strategy in the annexation of Crimea, where special-operations troops without insignia carried out a bloodless takeover while a confused and listless West sat stupefied.

A primary component of hybrid war is disinformation. Finely attuned to the particular grievances of a diverse array of Western audiences, Russian psychological operatives produce narratives that find fertile ground in Europe, where resentment over the Iraq War, fallout from the 2008 financial crisis and revelations of National Security Agency surveillance continue to breed anti-American sentiment and undermine societal resilience to Russian agitprop. Kremlin “active measures” (Soviet-style lies aimed at influencing an adversary’s decision-making) about Western political and financial corruption, the subservience of Western leaders to shadowy and unaccountable corporations and America’s insatiable quest for global domination— disseminated through social media bot networks that, by manipulating algorithms, create the impression that such information is at the very least widely believed if not factually valid—find resonance across the ideological spectrum, uniting everyone from left-wing anti-globalization activists to right-wing cultural traditionalists.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/russias-plot-against-the-west-214925

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