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Friday Follies: The End of Facts, Swedenborg's Flying Saucer, and More!

12/2/2016

38 Comments

 
​On NPR on Wednesday, CNN’s conservative commentator and Trump surrogate Scottie Nell Hughes demonstrated astonishing hypocrisy when the opponent of all things “liberal” embraced postmodernism’s most pernicious interpretation to declare that objective truth no longer exists: “It’s kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of half-full water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or not true. There’s no such thing, unfortunately, anymore as facts.” I’m confused: I thought conservatives opposed relativism for destroying Western Civilization. Slimy elites will say anything when convenient to justify the excesses of the powerful. 
​On another note, yesterday afternoon the Xplrr Media crew delivered another podcast about The Curse of Oak Island, but it offers nothing much worth mentioning. Scott Wolter repeated his claim that the so-called “Hooked X®” found on a stone on the island is not Templar (we agree on something!), and he alleges that the show planted the object for ratings. Wolter, who expressed his lack of interest in Oak Island, reiterated his upset that the show is financially benefiting from his “Hooked X®” hypotheses, though he said he was happy that they gave him credit. J. Hutton Pulitzer heaped fawning praise on Oak Island executive producer Kevin Burns, and he speculated that the History Channel demanded a Templar theme to promote a forthcoming Templar-themed drama series. Wolter said that the show must have found nothing serious about Templars or else they would have asked him to appear. But didn’t he say last week that they did ask him and he refused? “I could just see that this was made up,” Wolter said of the Templar material under discussion on ​Curse of Oak Island.
 
And now to today’s main attraction: In doing some archival research I came across a classic case of a ufologist manipulating a historic text to create a fake account of ancient astronauts. Fortunately, due to the obscurity of the medium in which it was published, this account did not become as famous as some other fake texts. Our example comes from the winter 1953 edition of the Civilian Saucer Investigation Quarterly Bulletin, a newsletter published briefly in Los Angeles during 1953 and 1954. An unsigned article entitled “300 Years of Flying Saucers” makes the following unusual claim:
​Emanuel Swedenborg, 1759, scientist and tutor of King Charles II of Sweden, mentions in one of his works on the universe that “the inhabitants of Mercury travel through the universe visiting planets in a globe extending itself lengthwise. They have exceptional memories and know more than inhabitants of any other planet. They possess the knowledge of all things in this solar system and scientifically are highly advanced. They delight in exploration of other planets. Their appearance is heralded by a whitish flame burning briskly. They wander through the universe. Strangely enough, they know that the art of printing is being used on earth.”
​Would that be something if it were true? Unfortunately, the author either intentionally or ignorantly mangled the original Latin text into something it is not. Swedenborg was a scientist who became a Christian mystic after having dreams and visions that he believed came from God. Among his many claims, he argued that the universe was full of life because God would not make such a vast universe for only one planet. In a treatise entitled “On the Earths in the Universe” (or “The Earths in Our Solar System”) (1758), Swedenborg described his fanciful philosophy of how the other planets were inhabited by spirits that traveled the universe in groups, like birds in their flocks, as they roamed the cosmos for knowledge. In section 43 we find the text altered above, as translated in 1868 by the American Swedenborg Printing and Publishing Society:
​On a time the spirits of Mercury appeared to the left in a globe, and afterwards in a volume extending itself lengthways. I wondered whither they were desirous of going, whether to this earth or elsewhere. […] Hence I was led to conclude that the spirits of Venus, who were on that part of the planet, were in concord with the spirits of Mercury, and that they had relation to the memory of things material which was in concord with the memory of things immaterial, to which latter memory the spirits of Mercury have relation: hence a more powerful operation was felt from them when they were there.
​The remainder of the false quotation was apparently assembled from other sections of the treatise. Section 81, discussing angels from Jupiter, gives the material about printing. Swedenborg reports that he told the angels that the Holy Word on Earth was spread through printed texts. “They wondered exceedingly that things of such a nature could be made public by writing and printing.” Section 94, on Mars, describes a vision of a multicolored flame heralding the arrival of Martian spirit beings.
 
As you can see, the 1953 writer cherry picked lines and ran them together, with some paraphrasing and a few interpolations. The most vital change is the creation of a flying saucer (“a globe extending itself lengthwise”) from an original which referred to the murmuration of souls darting about the universe in different shapes, just as starlings do, not a vehicle they rode in.
38 Comments
Only Me
12/2/2016 01:22:32 pm

I remember a previous podcast where Pulitzer encouraged his listeners to find their own truth. I think Hughes's statement about facts dovetails quite nicely with Pulitzer's message.

Oh, and Scott? Scott Wolter? The fact only the History Channel would consider you an expert on all things Knights Templar does nothing to help your credibility.

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DaveR
12/2/2016 01:48:41 pm

Unfortunately for Hughes there are indeed things called facts that cannot be disputed.

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Tom
12/2/2016 02:11:27 pm

Agreed, Mr Hughes should try walking on the water residing in his nearest lake, it will at least prove that facts really exist and that he may just be a very confused little man.
Interestingly, none of these experts query the factual existence of their bank accounts and I would bet that any error made by the banks costing these experts a few dollars is never put down to a valid "interpretation" of the facts.

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Jim
12/2/2016 02:38:28 pm

Pulitzer thinks a pizza party with 300 fans sifting the dirt in a construction zone loaded with unknown shafts would be the way to go. What could possibly go wrong ?

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Shane Sullivan
12/2/2016 03:05:26 pm

What could go wrong? Someone handles pizza without washing their hands and winds up eating dirt, that's what. That's how you get pin worms, man!

...Oh, I see, sarcasm.

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Kathleen
12/2/2016 03:08:28 pm

Are you familiar with the way you check for pinworms?

Kathleen
12/2/2016 03:19:48 pm

Seriously, Google it.

Pinworm references could be gold

Jim
12/2/2016 03:51:55 pm

Well, this has taken a bizarre twist. I'm trying hard not to say anything about Hutton smooching up to Kevin Burns.

Shane Sullivan
12/2/2016 10:29:01 pm

I did a Google Image search, but all I found was what appeared to be a POV shot taken by a spelunker at the entrance of a cave.

Americanegro
12/6/2016 02:23:26 am

Please stop with the sex talk, Shane.

Peter Geuzen
12/2/2016 04:15:13 pm

“I find the whole notion of Oak Island, I don’t know, it doesn’t do anything for me, none of it does, none of it does.”

“Oak Island is part of the grand rewriting of the history of North America, in fact the whole history of the world.”

What a team, eh.

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DaveR
12/2/2016 04:22:41 pm

The fringe loves contradictions.

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Titus pullo
12/2/2016 04:32:29 pm

Ms Hughes is hardly a conservative. She showed up as a so called tea party rep but her rationales were often nonsensical when it comes to basic conservative or libertarian brliefs. She actually supported the exbank but only fot small businesses. I always thought she got her fox gig based on her figure whicl old roger ailes seemed to like. Just another political opportnist just like the fringe folks who teally dont believe except for making money. I doubt she ever heard of edmund burke or fredrick hayek. Then again neither did trump

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E.P. Grondine
12/2/2016 05:44:14 pm

Ancient Alien Cats Trailer 1 up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Ch9t6puAk

enjoy

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David Bradbury
12/2/2016 06:37:26 pm

There may be one or two copyright problems- but otherwise,
Keep calm and carry on !

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Jim
12/2/2016 06:42:01 pm

Well done !,,,You produced that ? You can expect some major kudos from Hutton on his next podcast. Followed by an hour of completely ripping your work apart. I mean the guy can't even kiss someones @$$ without completely screwing it up.

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Jason Colavito link
12/2/2016 08:38:11 pm

You spliced those photos into "The Cat from Outer Space," right?

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Jersey
12/2/2016 09:17:07 pm

How wonderful it must be to think that one knows everything -
all I know is that I have seen flying vehicles in the sky making maneuvers that are unbelievable, with no smoke or sound whatever. Which tells me that we are not alone in this universe.
Anyone who has had a sighting knows how frightening and incredible these objects are, with an ability to hover silently, jump across the sky at unbelievable speeds, and take off with no propulsion noise or smoke.
I don't believe this planet has the technology I witnessed, it has to be someone else's science.
If any of you are unlucky enough to see one, you might just change your outlooks!

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Only Me
12/2/2016 10:48:58 pm

The problem with accusing everyone who doesn't share your beliefs with thinking they know everything is the probability you are the only one left in the dark.

I'm sure you believe you witnessed a UFO, but think about what UFO means: unidentified flying object. Only fringe culture insists those three letters automatically mean "alien spacecraft". That leaves the door open for a lot more earthly explanations that must be eliminated first.

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Jersey
12/3/2016 01:19:30 pm

Oh my, just listen to the person who has obviously never witnessed these vehicles moving through our skies -
When you have actually SEEN one for yourself, I will listen to your rantings -
otherwise, I have no interest in sad arrogance and the typical 'know it all' attitude.
Perhaps you can entertain someone else, I have better things to do.

Only Me
12/3/2016 01:36:24 pm

In other words, you prefer an echo chamber. No opposing view is tolerated because your personal experience is more important than an explanation, especially one that doesn't include aliens. Got it.

V
12/4/2016 08:41:24 pm

Nope. Witnessed one. Still don't believe it was from another planet. Still believe that first-hand witness accounts are CRAP for establishing facts because the human brain is a TERRIBLE record-keeper. Still believe it was something perfectly Earth-bound and mundane and I just didn't know about it.

Then again, my ego isn't so huge that I think that all knowledge stops at the end of what I personally know.

Reiterating, Jersey: SEEN. ONE. For myself. Now stick to your word and listen to what I have to say: Just because YOU don't know what it is doesn't mean no one else does.

Steve StC
12/2/2016 11:29:34 pm

"Jersey" my advice to you in dealing with completely arrogant assholes like Colavita and "Only Me" comes from Sun Tzu -
"Pretent inferiority and encourage his arrogance."

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Only Me
12/3/2016 01:12:59 am

I'm going to pull my Steve StC card and question your credibility since you can't spell Jason's last name correctly...in spite of it being listed three times on this very page.

I could easily point out that Sun Tzu quote applies to you, but that would be stating the obvious. So, I leave you with a quote of my own:

"If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them." -Isaac Asimov

Only Me
12/3/2016 01:41:00 am

By the way, Steve, I forgot to mention earlier you also screwed up Sun Tzu's quote. It should be "pretend", not "pretent".

Jason Colavito link
12/3/2016 06:29:50 am

I must concede that I am a bit baffled as to why pointing out that 63 years ago someone faked a quote from Swedenborg has translated into either extreme arrogance or a blanket dismissal of UFOs. Did I miss a memo somewhere stating that all claims about UFOs must be true, no matter how demonstrably false? So far as I can tell, pointing out the fake evidence doesn't imply anything about UFOs at all. I will cop to not believing that Mercury is inhabited by flocks of flying space angels, but I guess that's just my arrogance.

Jersey
12/3/2016 01:23:09 pm

Steve - I prefer to just laugh & go on my way,
there are many of us who have seen these strange objects,
and it is not my job to educate fools.

Weatherwax
12/3/2016 02:21:47 pm

"I prefer to just laugh & go on my way"

And yet you don't go on your way, just change your name and pretend to be someone else.

Joe Scales
12/3/2016 02:56:38 pm

Have the pre-Columbian voyaging Sinclairs now ditched their Viking ships for alien spacecraft?

Americanegro
12/6/2016 02:27:12 am

If you're one of those guys who pronounces it "Soon Zoo" if have no time for you.

Americanegro
12/6/2016 02:29:20 am

If you're one of those guys who pronounces it "Soon Zoo" I have no time for you. Sorry about the typo.

jojo
12/3/2016 09:10:35 am

It is interesting that Swedenborg had these thoughts published at an early date. The part that is not being discussed here is him being the tutor of Royalty while promoting ideas like extraterrestrial life. It is clear issues like this were used to manipulate people in an age old scheme. Kind of like what the entire Oak Island TV, Ancient Aliens, and America Unearthed do in the modern world. Swedenborg is another magi so everything he said and did likely had a singular purpose to him. Did John Dee or St. Germain believe all the ideas they propagated or was there another purpose behind what they did? This era of Sweden also saw a lot of influence from exiled Scots Jacobites including the Swedish Counts of Hamilton that later were involved in leaving the Kensington Rune in league with their direct relatives who owned the Hudson's Bay Company.....So I guess Swedenborg was just another dummy who believes in UFO's huh?

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Jersey
12/3/2016 01:33:23 pm

I'll repeat it again, because it bears repeating -
one has to see these flying vehicles for oneself,
there is just no way to describe them, and the
non-believers won't understand anyway,
until they see for themselves.
It does mean something that there have been reports of unidentified vehicles going back through recorded history,
and they are certainly not all flocks of birds, swamp gas,
and the like. They cannot all be simply dismissed as
nothing, the size of these things alone is just incredible.
I will make one more comment - if any country on this
planet had this dazzling technology, it wouldn't take years
to get to one of the planets in our system - but seconds or
minutes, judging by what I saw. It is laughable to see the
lift-off of one of our vehicles into outer space, the fires & flames
and racket - when these ufo's simply zip upwards at incredible
speed with no sound or flames or exhaust.
Sad that the readers here for the most part have their heads stuck in the sand...........

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Jim
12/3/2016 08:09:36 pm

Yes, we all have our heads on the sand and are uneducated fools.
You say something,and it must be true.Who needs any stinking evidence ?
Should we believe the fake sword is real because Hutton says so ?
Should we believe the The Templars were in America because Wolter says so ?
Hitler said the Germans were the master race, decided some peoples were inferior and should be exterminated, were we fools for not believing him ?
You must be in the wrong place, people here are a little skeptical of completely unsubstantiated stories of a fantastical nature.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
12/4/2016 08:48:40 am

So it's a phenomenon that can only be understood by those who have experienced it, cannot be quantified, cannot be measured, and cannot be documented in any meaningful way. That's not science. That's faith. What you are essentially describing is a religious experience. Since religion is, at best, a matter for individuals, ranting at strangers about their blindness isn't going to persuade any of us.

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CJ
12/4/2016 06:17:38 pm

Ii've seen them, once. But I recognize that I don't know everything. The human brain and eye is easily, easily fooled. Whether by optical illusion, or other disease or defect in either or the connections between the two.

These things are FAR more likely and common than the idea that interstellar crafts have been witnessed but never independently verified, documented, or reliably recorded. And don't pull the conspiracy thing. Coverups happen, but if this is a world-wide phenomena there would be real, tangible, verifiable evidence.

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V
12/4/2016 08:48:13 pm

OR...you saw something much smaller and closer to you--like, say, a bug--and because of the way depth perception works and the way the brain interprets shit, you THINK you saw something enormous and fast, when it was really something small and average-speed.

But the moment you start waving around terms like "non-believer," then you absolutely SHOULD be dismissed, because science and facts don't FUCKING CARE if you believe in them or not, they stubbornly stay what they are and sucker-punch you in the face.

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Jim
12/4/2016 09:23:16 pm

I once saw an internet report of multiple ufo's flying over a lake up here in Canada. As it happens, I had a place on the same lake and was there at the same time. Interesting that what they saw and what I saw was similar, although I knew it was a hatching of fireflys.


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