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Friday Roundup: Bigfoot Skull, Tut's Meteor Dagger, and the Mystery of the Mu Stones

6/3/2016

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A Texas man found a rock in Ogden Canyon, Utah in 2013 that he claims is the skull of a Bigfoot. Even though the object is very clearly a rock, Todd May claimed in an interview yesterday that there is a conspiracy by “haters” to deny that he has the first tangible evidence of Bigfoot. “There’s haters out there, other Bigfoot enthusiasts that don’t like that I found something first,” May said when he showed up unannounced at the Times Record News offices carrying his rock and asking to be in the paper. The newspaper asked a geologist to examine the rock, and unsurprisingly it is a rock.
Meanwhile, the internet has gone wild over badly phrased claims that Tutankhamun was buried with a dagger that scientists “determined to have extraterrestrial origins.” Less responsible news sites, like Maxim compared this to Ancient Aliens, and several poorly worded articles implied that the dagger itself came from outer space rather than the truth that Egyptians made its blade from meteoric iron. This is also not particularly new news. Scientists have known that ancient people used meteoric iron to make objects since at least 1721, and I can find discussions of Egyptian use of meteoric iron going back to the nineteenth century, and I actually located earlier analyses of the same dagger from King Tut’s tomb that identified it as being of meteoric origin. In other words, while the most recent tests are “new” they did not actually change what scholars already knew.
 
In keeping with my plan to use Fridays to highlight some of the best work others have been doing, I wanted to share with everyone a podcast in which Jack Churchward of the My Mu blog interviews Dr. Jeb Card about his research into the Mu Stones, a series of 2,600 stone tablets excavated by William Niven in the 1920s. Here is how Niven described his find, as quoted by James Churchward in The Children of Mu (1931):
It was in 1921, however, in the course of my excavations at Santiago Ahuizoctla, a hamlet contiguous to Amantla, that I came across the first of the now famous carved stone tablets at a depth of 4 meters from the surface of the ground. This discovery was at once so singular and so startling that I became instantly fired with an immense desire to find more of these tablets, if more indeed were to be found. To this end, I made a systematic exploration of all the clay pits, sand pits and tepetate quarries that existed within an area of 20 square miles and my arduous labors were amply rewarded, for by December, 1923, or in less than three years, I had unearthed 975 of these mysterious tablets. (Now 2600)

Many of the most important of these were found at Ahuizoctla under and around an altar which had an outline figure upon it painted in red and yellow. The paints used were mostly from oxide of iron. In 1924 Dr. Morley of the Carnegie Institution said that the strange symbols on the carved stones and altar were unlike anything he had ever seen in Mexico or elsewhere.
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One of the Mu Stones.
Churchward, writing in Children of Mu, dated the tablets to around 10,000 BCE but suspected they might be even older. They were, he said, the “key to the universe” and contained hidden meanings that would unveil the truth about history and science.
 
I will leave it to readers to listen to the excellent discussion in the YouTube video below. Suffice it to say that the Mu Stones (or Niven Tablets, as they are also known) are not about to rewrite history.
12 Comments
Rose McDonald
6/3/2016 11:16:04 am

Well, that didn't take long. Yesterday I posited the question as to how long it would take for the fringers to say Tut's meteorite dagger was proof positive of his alien/human hybrid status. Wah lah..

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Clint Knapp
6/3/2016 05:51:43 pm

The first "news" I actually saw in my News app on the dagger was actually the fringe claim. I had to backtrack it to find something credible.

That said, I don't see how it comes as any surprise that a god-king would have a dagger slightly more rare and special than others. Meteoric iron is generally easier to access due to its proximity to the surface, of course, but even if the Egyptians of his time recognized that it was from space (or the gods), or had qualities that stood out against earthbound iron, it would only be fitting to craft it into an ornament for a man worshiped as a god.

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V
6/6/2016 02:59:00 am

Meteoric iron does actually have some telltale signs that distinguish it from iron of terrestrial origin; that's how scientists can tell it's meteoric in the first place. Interestingly, some of those signs are visible to the naked eye, at least according to research I did recently into blades made of meteoric iron for a fictional work...color, for one, and the way it "works" in a forge (as in, how it feels when one is working with it), and if I recall correctly there is a particular type of stippling pattern that often/usually shows up when it's been worked into the shape of a blade. Whether it was recognized as heavenly metal or not, it would seem that it would be very easy to recognize it as "special" metal even by people without microscopes and advanced chemistry degrees.

Likewise, meteoric glass has been proven to have been collected as gems, if I recall correctly, for similar reasons of "we can tell it's not like the other stuff over there by looking at it," which fully supports your conclusion that it is not surprising that elite members of society get the elite goods regardless of origins.

Clete
6/3/2016 12:04:24 pm

And in a related story, another scientist examined Todd May's head and determined that it too is a rock.

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Bob Jase
6/3/2016 12:41:35 pm

That there is too a real fossilized bigfoot skull (and jaw). I've found at least half a dozen similar bigfoot hunter's skulls while digging for my vegetable garden.

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Shane Sullivan
6/3/2016 12:52:11 pm

I actually didn't know there were any such stones. My gut reaction was that they and their unearthing were made up by Churchward, like his sunburnt clay tablets.

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Jack Churchward link
6/3/2016 01:11:47 pm

Actually, James Churchward didn't even correspond with William Niven until after the tablets were found. His mention of Niven's discoveries in the 1926 'Lost Continent of Mu Motherland of Men' focused on the artifacts and excavations to 'prove' the Maya from Mu colonized the Valley of Mexico in extreme antiquity. After their correspondence began and Niven sent 2000 images to James did the 'tablets' take a much more prominent role in his further works. James also stated the writing on Niven's 'tablets' were from Mu and just like the ones he saw by the Naacal Brotherhood in India (the sunburnt clay tablets.)

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Only Me
6/3/2016 04:16:59 pm

Awesome video. I really appreciate how Dr. Card explained those circumstances that signal red flags to archaeologists about any artifact's possible authenticity. I also liked his attitude towards engaging fringe claims to put them to the test and let the results speak for themselves.

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Ken
6/3/2016 05:57:33 pm

Haven't "...poorly worded articles..." become the rule rather than the exception in American journalism?

Whatever happened to the rules of 'concise, descriptive headlines' and 'giving the entire gist of a story in the first paragraph'?

Now the rules have become 'use outrageous headlines', 'never get to the point until the end', 'provide sensationalist speculation wherever possible', and 'entertain, never inform'.

Jesus, Jason - what has happen to modern journalism?

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Ken
6/3/2016 06:30:23 pm

Jason, of course, not included among the schlock artists posing as bloggers and "news" journalists.

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Time Machine
6/4/2016 09:56:11 am

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Kal
6/4/2016 04:40:25 pm

Jason must be popular, as there are some posters who think to toss their ads and urls on his blog alone, to sell their own fringe beliefs. They could do it on their own blog, but maybe they know they will not have the fame if they do that.

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