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Friends of David Wilcock Say He Resigned from Gaia TV over Bad Pay, Poor Working Conditions, and Lucifer

7/10/2018

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​Late Friday night, ufologist Laura Eisenhower released a letter she said that ancient astronaut theorist David Wilcock sent to his employer, Gaia TV, asking to be let out of his contract. According to the letter, Gaia TV has an abusive work environment, unfairly compensates its employees, and deceptively edits its programs to promote what Wilcock described as “Luciferian” beliefs. “This is already starting to cause me significant career damage and it will get far worse if I don’t do something about it, fast,” Wilcock is said to have written. “I have willfully ignored an enormous number of offensive, disrespectful and abusive situations in order to do this job the last six years – primarily out of a sense of financial dependency.” He attributed this to having suffered physical abuse at the hands of his former girlfriend. 
​The letter was not meant for public consumption, but Eisenhower posted it to Facebook after she said Gaia, a New Age streaming video service, authenticated the letter. She pulled it off her Facebook page a few hours later, claiming that she wished to avoid “negative energy” from Gaia TV, but the letter was posted to Reddit. Paranormal radio host Jimmy Church confirmed on Twitter that the letter is authentic. While I have not independently authenticated it, the letter bears all of the hallmarks of Wilcock’s style and contains references to his many and confusing conspiracy theories that it reads as authentic to me. It also comes at the same time that Wilcock has launched a new “Divine Cosmos Productions” line of streaming media, which would be in direct competition with Gaia.
 
In the letter, Wilcock describes the company’s efforts to alienate him from what he describes as his Judeo-Christian fan base, and he threatened to turn conservative conspiracy theorists against the company:
​The Company also attempted to upload a video to my YouTube channel that aggressively promotes Luciferianism – namely S1E1 of Ancient Civilizations – even while Gaia supposedly has a policy of “no religion,” at least for my fellow colleagues and me. I was tricked into participating in a very religious program that I do not want to have any affiliation with. This show is literally saying that God is Evil and Lucifer is God – who (ahem) also happens to be a reptilian alien. Seriously?
 
How would this look if it all got dragged into the public eye, especially in light of the overwhelming online movement called Pizzagate? Millions of people are now working to identify Luciferian elements in our society, and they are murderously angry about it.
 
[…] The potential damage to my career, reputation and physical safety from the existence of “Ancient Civilizations” on the Gaia network is massive, as I have been very outspoken in the public eye against Luciferianism, and will continue to do so.
​Wilcock seems to have forgotten that his other show, Ancient Aliens, produced an episode promoting Satanism a few years ago, and making these exact points. The Ancient Civilizations episode (cheaply made from talking head interviews, stock video, and public domain and Creative Commons stock photos) supposedly searches for the Garden of Eden, but it generally promotes a Gnostic worldview with the help of Ancient Aliens talking heads and some Sitchinite claims about aliens serving as gods. It is no different than an episode of Ancient Aliens, but as it nears the end, the show quotes Sitchin-style French autodidact author Anton Parks (who claims to have discovered the “true” translation of most ancient texts) that the “good” Sumerian god, Enki, was a Reptilian alien who was remembered as the Serpent in the Garden of Eden; consequently, Satan is actually a “friend” of humans and the Jews diabolized the good god. Parks alleges that the Jews made a “deliberate choice” to venerate the unfriendly Sumerian god Enlil over the friendly serpentine god Enki. The narrator concludes that a conspiracy purposely maintains Yahweh-Enlil as a false god to keep us under Enlil’s control. This really isn’t any different from Ancient Aliens, except that it is a little blunter in taking the ancient astronaut theory to its obvious conclusion.
 
Wilcock claims to be concerned that Christian conservatives would attempt to assassinate him if they perceived from Gaia’s editing that he had spoken against God. He claims that he has received at least one serious death threat, and he also lamented that Gaia paid so little that Wilcock had to hold fundraisers to help other Gaia talent make ends meet. He estimated that the company pulled in nearly $2 million in revenue from his various programs, of which he claims to have seen very little.
 
Wilcock also made two oddball claims that struck me as highly unusual. The first is that Gaia accused Wilcock’s friends of attempting to “obstruct (UFO) disclosure,” which suggests a whole other level of weird beyond interpersonal personnel issues. The second is that Graham Hancock declared his fealty to Lucifer in a Gaia program. “I was greatly disappointed to see Graham Hancock ‘come out of the closet’ about his Luciferian beliefs in this show. The resulting heated emails I exchanged with him basically destroyed our personal and professional relationship and we have never spoken again.” In the episode of Ancient Civilizations in question, Hancock is quoted as saying, “That entity that we have been taught to call god and to worship is no such thing.” He is, however, referring to the Gnostic worldview, not Luciferian beliefs. Wilcock has either misunderstood or misrepresented.
 
Late Monday night, Hancock responded on Twitter by noting obliquely that his words had caused “some offence” while adding that “I do absolutely stand by my own words.”
 
Wilcock’s apparent resignation comes amid what he says is unrest at Gaia surrounding the so-called “Gaia Employee Movement,” a group of company employees that Wilcock says are dissatisfied with the direction the New Age service has taken in recent years, particularly in terms of what they say is its poor treatment of employees. However, I have been unable to find any public information to confirm this. I did find that filmmaker Pam Greer accused a Gaia executive of demanding women strip naked and twirl for him.
 
As of this writing, neither Gaia TV nor its corporate parent responded publicly to the claims made about the organization’s corporate culture, but they did make available for free for a limited time some of the video Wilcock complained about and retweeted praise from viewers of their Ancient Civilizations show, presumably as a counterpoint.
 
To be entirely honest, it’s hard to see how Gaia TV, owned by Jirka Rysavy, the founder of the parent company Gaia Inc., could end up any other way than enmeshed in scandal and recrimination. The company’s entire content model is based on promoting paranoid conspiracy theories from some of the most extreme voices and some of the most distasteful voices in the field. Wilcock’s embrace of Pizzagate, for example, is hardly unique even among Gaia hosts. As with most of the field of fringe history, Gaia has racists in its ranks and bends toward white nationalist views of history.
 
Jay Weidner is a documentary filmmaker and a frequent cable TV talking head (he appeared on the History channel several times, among other TV appearances) who hosts shows on Gaia and serves as senior director of content production at Gaia. He is also the producer of Wilcock’s Gaia TV show ​Cosmic Disclosure. Last year, he appeared on Jeff Rense’s show to defend the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that sees Trump as a stealth hero taking down liberal pedophiles (the Q-Anon conspiracy, a close relative to Wilcock’s preferred Pizzagate) and responded to a question about whether Africans on average have IQs below 55 this way:
Well, it’s a result of their culture. There’s a lot of inbreeding. The Native Americans, I’m sorry to say, they had the same problem. There’s a lot of inbreeding within the tribes, the Crow, the Pawnee, and the Lakota. They really weren’t allowed to procreate outside their tribe. I think that’s probably the reason why the Native Americans were so easy to roll over. And, I mean, Cortes conquered Mexico with, what, sixty-five guys? […] Again, we’re heading towards, there’s no doubt, a Civil War. That’s what this is all about. And the Left has decided, somehow, in their deluded fantasy, that they’re going to win this Civil War. […] 
​He referred to non-conservatives as “libtards,” and he offered tips for how to convert liberals to his brand of what seems to be alt-right racist conservatism. He openly conflated straight white men with conservatives, underscoring the underlying racial dynamic he passes off as politics. When he uses “we” he sometimes means “white men” and sometimes means “conservatives,” and there is in his mind no difference. In response to cross-talk about whether “we” built Western civilization, he replied, “Well, we did and thank God for that.” It wasn’t clear whether he meant “we” white men or “we” conservatives, but I doubt he would have considered there to be a distinction. In response to a Rense’s point, taken from Nazi propaganda, that “leftists” and minorities are at best “useful eaters,” Weider said, “They just don’t matter.” He claimed that white conservatives, even as a minority, are more important than other groups because “we care.”
 
Weidner alleges that the government has tapped his phones and believes he is under surveillance by the Deep State.
 
Weider remained gainfully employed by Gaia and is still with the company as of this writing, and he is responsible for producing much of the channel’s fringe history and conspiracy programming.
 
Let’s just let that sink in. Gaia, a company founded on yoga videos, has a man who openly expresses racist and white nationalist views as the head of its content production team. And the company is so toxic that David Wilcock, a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist who proudly claims to receive Russian propaganda messages, espouses material drawn from several anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, and openly accuses the Rothschild banking family of attempting to assassinate him, thinks they are too dark even for him.
Update: On Wednesday, Hancock posted a link to an interview Wilcock conducted with him in 2015. In the interview Wilcock praised Hancock for his analysis of the Gnostic view. Wilcock reports the Gnostic view that Yahweh is an evil entity “masquerading as positive. This is exactly what it says in the Law of One series, which is the philosophical basis of all the work that I’ve done.” 
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E.P. Grondine
7/10/2018 10:11:01 am

A really great post, Jason -

By the way, to my knowledge Bill Donovan has never received a dime from later sales of "The Anti-Gravity Handbook" -

http://www.danieljglenn.com/the_podcasts/Stelle/Documentation/He%20Walked%20Among%20Us%20Part%201.pdf

http://www.danieljglenn.com/the_podcasts/Stelle/Documentation/He%20Walked%20Among%20Us%20Part%202.pdf

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HUGH'S POO
7/11/2018 02:24:42 am

Man, I expressed my Poociferian belief system this morning.
Megalithic blocking of the U-bend i tell you!
David Wilcock could have a job here removing this hellish monolith.
Squezed and stenched from the bowels of the beast itself.

Ps: telluric toilet paper, laying ley lines, etc etc.
PPS. On next weeks episode I visit POOma Plonko.

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Americanegro
7/11/2018 02:02:23 pm

Yes, you've posted that link many times. Please fuck off.

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Wilson Kemp
7/15/2018 10:27:27 am

No obscenities please.

A Buddhist
7/10/2018 10:19:03 am

“That entity that we have been taught to call god and to worship is no such thing.” I presume that Hancock is referring to YHVH the Abrahamic god.
Indeed. Given that YHVH, according to the Hebrew scriptures, killed babies, ordered his followers to kill Amalekite and Canaanite babies, and did not even understand the origins of hail (there are no storehouses of hail!), I entirely agree with Hancock here, even as I disagree with his other views. Were there no scriptures telling people to worship YHVH, he would be dismissed as a demon!

Yet David Wilcock's alleged conflation of criticism of YHVH with “Luciferian” beliefs reveals his own ignorance of religious and philosophical positions. It is possible to conclude that “[t]hat entity that we have been taught to call god and to worship is no such thing” without being an adherent of “Luciferian” beliefs or espousing “Luciferian” beliefs. A Hindu, a materialistic atheist, a Buddhist, a deist, or a follower of other belief systems could all legitimately conclude that “[t]hat entity that we have been taught to call god and to worship is no such thing”. If David Wilcock believe that such thinkers are all really followers of “Luciferian” beliefs, this reveals a disturbing tendency by him to homogenize and demonize thinkers who do no worship YHVH as God. Such sentiments can create holy wars and holy warriors and breed intolerance.

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Bill
7/11/2018 12:37:26 am

Good post, A Buddhist. So true.

The theory that the Biblical snake in Eden was Enki is pretty common (but not universal) in ancient alien circles. The theory seems to be that many of the Annunaki gods were reptilian, not just Enki, and Enki was more like a dissident voice among them about how to treat humans, but his good intentions were thwarted by the other Annunaki (reptilians). What this theory misses, including the Gaia episode, is the pre-biblical Myth of Adappa that says Enki was trying to TRICK humans (symbolized as the character Adappa) AWAY from knowledge. So, if Enki is equated with the Biblical serpent, then the serpent in Eden was only perpetrating a ruse on Adam & Eve by PRETENDING to offer them wisdom. Enki was not always portrayed as a good guy in ancient Middle Eastern tablets, and it seems that point was missed in the show.

When TV shows like this use talking heads, the talking heads don't get to review the script or final edit before the show is aired. The episodes really reflect the ideas of the producers and writers, and the talking heads don't always find out what those ideas are until they see the episode on TV and how snippets from their interviews are used. It's natural that this sometimes causes upsets between talking heads and producers. David Wilcock's break with Gaia is a very dramatic example, although it sounds like money was an issue, too.

Viewers must not assume that the editorial slant of a TV episode in a series like this reflects the views of all the talking heads who appear in it...there is seldom that kind of 100% agreement.

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Shanematrixslayer
9/9/2018 09:21:26 pm

Well said... I agree fully

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debi williams
4/14/2021 12:26:41 pm

The quote of Hancock in regard to YHWH was incomplete. I watched the program and came to the same conclusion as David Wilcock, that Hancock was in fact revealing his belief in the idea that YHWH was evil and Lucifer was GOOD. There was far more to that discussion in the program than that one sentence.
As for YHWH being evil, when people talk about the old testament without having knowledge of the circumstances surrounding those edicts from GOD, they are simply showing their ignorance. The death sentences of those societies named by God were due to Genesis 6 and what came out of that. Those societies were made up of hybrid humans that were GIANTS and were CANNIBALS. They were a scourge on the human population, praying on them for food. Similar stories are told by Native Americans. The "people" YHWH condemned to death were not innocent human populations that he did not like. It should also be noted that these populations worshipped Baal and Moloch who demanded infant sacrifices. A huge statue of the god was made of bronze and a fire was built beneath it, heating it up to a glowing point. The "people" lined up to place their infants and small children into the hands of the burning god, frying them to death. For those who have no sense of right and wrong this is no doubt called a "cultural practice", not an abomination.

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Pops
7/10/2018 11:17:13 am

The thing is that many fringe groups are starting to embrace conservative politics. It’s obvious that mainstream American conservativism is leaning further and further to the Right. The likes of Trump and many Republican politicians with a open declaration of believing and promoting conspiracy theories is now commonplace. The line between the fringe and mainstream in conservatism is getting blurry. Over 60 percent of conservatives believe in a watered down version of white genocide. Persecution Complex, something standard in all fringe groups is a staple in conservatism right now. Facebook and other social media companies are creating special councils just for conservatives because of that same paranoia of being persecuted. Conservatism and Christianity are interchangeable to these people. Most are Creationists, Climate Change deniers, etc. 70 percent of organisations promoting pseudoscience or misinformation about science are politically conservative. I could go on and on but the point is that the Republican Party is embracing fringe/extremist groups and has crazy politicians who actively believe conspiracy theories. Because of conservatives enabling or supporting Trump despite his lack of qualifications and humanity (jailed up kids in the border) and they still support him so conservatism will only get worse. I don’t have the exact quote right now but I believe someone said something in the likes of “when fascism comes to America, it will wrapped in a flag and a cross”.

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Joe Scales
7/10/2018 12:57:21 pm

So you don't like politics mixing with fringe history, eh Pops? Well, how about this one... all true mind you, but you won't see it published or discussed anywhere. It's got everything too. Conspiracies. Bad history. And the "legit" media gobbling it all up. Okay, here we go...

Remember that Emelia Earhart story? The one with the alleged photo of her and her navigator sitting on the dock of the bay? Claiming she was captured and imprisoned by the Japanese? The guy pushing this story was Shawn Henry. You know, former FBI and NBC News consultant. There he was, first on NBC, then on any channel that would have him pushing his Emelia Earhart story to be featured on The History Channel special airing that week. Of course it was all baloney. The picture he assured us was real, was in fact taken well before Earhart got lost and was from a travel guide. All the facial recognition "science" was nonsense; and don't forget they had to reverse the image anyway to match the part in the navigator's hair. That's not quite on the up and up, eh?

So you'd probably have to admit that at this point Shawn Henry's credibility is highly suspect. Can we take that as a given? Well then, guess what else he was pushing? Russians! How about that. Yes, Russians hacking the DNC server. That was his baby. Shawn Henry is the president and CSO of CrowdStrike. Yes, that CrowdStrike, and according to the DNC was the one contacted to get the job done.

All good stuff there. But you hadn't heard a word of it, had ya?

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A Buddhist
7/10/2018 01:50:04 pm

One can be an expert in one area of knowledge while lacking expertise in others. Accordingly, the credibility of a person's pronouncements in one field of knowledge may be more trustworthy than his/her pronouncements in other fields of knowledge. See, for example, Linus Pauling: brilliant chemist, kook at medicine: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling

Joe Scales
7/10/2018 03:19:16 pm

"One can be an expert in one area of knowledge while lacking expertise in others."

So corrupt methodology out to get a buck doesn't bother you then, so long as the one challenged sides with you on another point. In other words, believe what you want to believe. Got it!


A Buddhist
7/10/2018 05:04:51 pm

Joe Scales: I am not explicating whether I believe any of Shawn Henry's claims, but I am countering your claim that because Shawn Henry is unreliable in 1 area that he inquired in, he is unreliable in all.

An Anonymous Nerd
7/10/2018 05:59:32 pm

Mr. Scales:

Ironically, Mr. Colavito, whom you frequently criticize addressed the Amelia Earhart thing first, awhile back:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/wednesday-roundup-history-channel-investigating-earhart-photo-plus-gaia-claims-new-alien-mummies-and-marzulli-claims-demons-pretend-to-be-the-virgin-mary

so your information isn't really new and you seem to have the impression it was.

Further the analogy to the Russia investigation fails rather badly.

Firstly, Mr. Henry, whom I hadn't heard of until your post, is far from the only person looking into Russia as it relates to the 2016 Presidential Election. Perhaps the most-prominent person doing so is a former Republican-appointed head of the FBI.

Secondly, as far as I can tell, Mr. Henry's involvement in this Russia thing is quite limited. His firm was consulted about possible DNC hacking:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/russian-government-hackers-broke-into-dnc-servers-stole-trump-oppo-224315

His firm, CrowdStrike, doesn't seem to have an "About Us" page:

https://www.crowdstrike.com/

but based on the content found therein it does purport to have expertise in cyber-things. Not history, and not analysis of old photographs. All told the Amelia Earhart thing strikes me as someone talking outside his area without doing the background research -- not a general lack of credibility. Kind of like the academics Mr. Colavito encounters periodically who are sharp within their fields but too credulous, and too eager for headlines, outside of it.

You seem to be using this connection you've made in an attempt to strike back against others on this blog noticing the special relationship between the Fringe and the Right. I first began to address that special relationship here:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-buried-knights-templar-and-the-holy-grail-complete-season

No one is suggesting that the Right has a monopoly on the Fringe, but rather that a special relationship exists. It's difficult to deny and I'm not sure all Conservatives really try.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Joe Scales
7/10/2018 07:04:11 pm

"I am not explicating whether I believe any of Shawn Henry's claims, but I am countering your claim that because Shawn Henry is unreliable in 1 area that he inquired in, he is unreliable in all."

Buddhist,
Generally, that's all well and good. But from the get go, you equated expertise with credibility, and now reliability, as you separate Henry's ventures. Well, certain qualities and traits you just can't shake. Henry manipulated the evidence for this Earhart theory and so far has never owned up to being incredibly wrong. That's not just a lack of expertise. That's borderline fraud. We all talked about that Emelia Earhart debacle, but as I pointed out above, no one looked further into what Shawn Henry was all about. No one made the connection to CrowdStrike and questioned that. Doesn't it make you wonder now? Don't you want to know what he did for the FBI? Who he was close to? Might you want to know who in the DNC sought him out personally and why his firm was chosen over law enforcement?

To me it's a missed story, and will likely remain so. That's all.

An Anonymous Nerd
7/10/2018 08:25:20 pm

Regarding Mr. Henry's qualifications, background, and what he was hired to do at the FBI. A few seconds of Googling answers the questions.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/shawn-henry-named-executive-assistant-director-of-the-criminal-cyber-response-and-services-branch

https://www.crowdstrike.com/shawn-henry/

https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=114663796&privcapId=7691522

As to what he did at the FBI: Cyber security type stuff based on the descriptions. That's also what his education is in. Those sources also cite his long experience at the FBI as a field person.

Ooh, he was appointed by Robert Mueller, the very person investigating celebrity President Donald Trump! Could that mean something? Oh, wait. Mr. Mueller is a Republican and was appointed by the second President Bush, also a Republican to run the FBI.

So it does mean something: He was appointed to a high post at the FBI, by a Republican FBI Director to do things he's qualified to do.

As to why the DNC called his firm instead of law enforcement first? Based on that Politico story they mostly wanted to plug the hole. Of course if they had called the FBI first, that would be used against the FBI in this very conversation. Especially given that the FBI is cited by the Right as being "Deep State" central.

Oh and the fact that I was able to find all this out so quickly, and from non-Fringe type sources, suggests mightily that what was implied was secret was actually pretty well out in the open.

Everyone here by now knows that Amelia Earhart photo was totally bogus. Should Mr. Henry disavow that? Dear God yes, and so should the History channel. (They still have the claim on their site. https://www.history.com/specials/amelia-earhart-the-lost-evidence/about)

There's no obvious relation though between him putting his neck on the line for a claim outside his area of expertise, and another matter (Russian involvement in the 2016 election) with which his firm's involvement is within both his own expertise and (more importantly) the firm's stated area of expertise. And that various aspects of have been confirmed by sources that go well beyond Mr. Henry.

Indeed I think many of us, certainly myself, knew about the Russian involvement in the 2016 Presidential Election, totally independent of any source related directly to Mr. Henry.

Misdirection, false equivalency, strawman arguments, and throwing as many claims against the wall as possible, are tactics shared, along with a lot else, by the Fringe, and the Right. Increasingly everyone on that side of the aisle sounds more and more like a cross between Alex Jones and Erich Von Dankien.

Sooner or later the thinking goes, the debunkers become exhausted, and/or can't possibly keep up with the raw volume of claims. Sadly it's effective.

-An Anonymous Nerd

JoJo
7/11/2018 12:34:27 pm

Oh, Joe, this is so tired. The readers of this blog aren't susceptible to your nonsense. We are all too well aware that you're a 400-pound Russian wanker trying desperately to earn a few rubles by fluffing the P-man. Take it to Facebook where the inbreds live.

Joe Scales
7/11/2018 12:56:45 pm

Well Jojo, so far no one has been able to articulate a credible response to my questioning the character and methodology of CrowdStrike's president and CSO. So instead you embrace a true conspiracy theory and put me square in the middle of it.

Beautiful Jojo. Well done.

americanegrohieropomparchboogievicarbiministerpopandlockinrabbitovaklovimsakyongrinpochehoosierdaddy
7/11/2018 02:42:02 pm

While I certainly wouldn't want to INSULT Mr. Buddhist I have to side with Mr. Scales on this one. Siding with the non-idiot is kind of a habit of mine.

A Buddhist
7/11/2018 03:44:59 pm

Joe Scales: Having considered your points, I suppose that it is unfortunate that those who employed Shawn Henry would have been better served if they had investigated the thoroughness of his research and his willingness to disclose what at minimum were serious flaws in his research into Earhart's disappearance. If Shawn Henry were the only source discussing allegations about Russian interference in Trump's election, I would rate it very low in credibility based upon Shawn Henry's incompetence/possible dishonesty (although not as low as if Mr. Henry's incompetence and possible dishonesty had also involved political issues rather than history of aviation/Japanese imperialism's history).

americanegrohieropomparchboogievicarbiministerpopandlockinrabbitovaklovimsakyongrinpochehoosierdaddy: Congratulations for fitting your remarks against me to only what are (I think) passive aggressive insults rather than overt vituperations. Maybe you can apply this to all of your interactions with everyone, and/or work your way to no insults for everyone whom you interact with.

americanegro
7/11/2018 04:40:33 pm

The first rule of not being an asshole is "stop telling people what to do".

An Anonymous Nerd
7/11/2018 06:50:09 pm

[[so far no one has been able to articulate a credible response to my questioning the character and methodology of CrowdStrike's president and CSO.]]

Let's see here. A subjective standard ("credible" seems to be "stuff you agree with"), to an unclearly defined problem (not sure what you mean by "the character and methodology of CrowdStrike's president"), that was brought up in tangential (at best) relationship to the topic at hand, issued largely as a distraction from it actually.

The logic and methods are uncannily similar to those employed by the "Ancient Aliens" crowd, and other similar such folks.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Joe Scales
7/11/2018 08:01:36 pm

"If Shawn Henry were the only source discussing allegations about Russian interference in Trump's election, I would rate it very low in credibility based upon Shawn Henry's incompetence/possible dishonesty..."

My point here Buddhist was always confined to the conclusion by CrowdStrike that the DNC was hacked by "Russians"; not any other alleged Russian antics. It wasn't you though that misinterpreted nearly everything I've written, and I thank you for that courtesy.

Certainly had CrowdStrike came out and said that they instead proved that the FBI had set up our president, I would be skeptical as well considering who's at the helm of that ship. Partisans opposing our president would likely turn on CrowdStrike if that were the case and suddenly expertise in one distinction over another wouldn't be a saving grace. I believe we can all see the truth in that.

An Anonymous Nerd
7/14/2018 09:33:18 am

[[My point here Buddhist was always confined to the conclusion by CrowdStrike that the DNC was hacked by "Russians"; not any other alleged Russian antics.]]

Actually Mr. Scales you clearly had broader aims in mind. First of all this was in the context of your attempting to use Mr. Henry's foible to somehow discredit Pops noticing the special relationship between the Fringe and the Right -- something which I've adequately demonstrated elsewhere, as you know.

Secondly, here is a quote from your original post:

[[So you'd probably have to admit that at this point Shawn Henry's credibility is highly suspect. Can we take that as a given? Well then, guess what else he was pushing? Russians! How about that. ]]

It was only then that you focused on the DNC hacking in particular. But your broader intent was not subtle, and it's interesting to see you go back on it. Almost like VonDaniken making, then going back, then re-asserting the claims about the Nazca Lines being an airport.

And finally as you may or may not have noticed, even the DNC hacking by Russians is not confined to Mr. Henry, and is now on the official record, put there by Republican-appointed law enforcement officials. So even if you really did have such a narrow focus, which you didn't, that point also now is blown up.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/13/mueller-indicts-12-russians-for-hacking-into-dnc-718805

You can I suppose just keep posting this sort of material until the debunkers get tired and go away, but it still won't make you correct, it'll just mean you have superior endurance and motivation.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Zenyatta
7/16/2018 05:48:22 pm

I have yet to read Mr. Colavito's post on the Earhart story, but I'm perfectly willing to believe that you saw a piece of crap documentary on The History Channel. If you were hoping criticism of a special aired on that channel would be met with shocked outrage, you probably picked the wrong crowd.

I'm not sure what your point is, really. Do you think this blog exclusively picks on conservative ET pseudoscientists? Odd that you think the belief that God is really a reptilian overlord would go over well with the "religious right." Wilcocks didn't seem to think it would, which is the only reason his political affiliation was mentioned.

As to the rest, I don't feel the need to spend my day fact-checking your claims about something that wasn't relevant to this story.

Joe Scales
7/16/2018 09:34:34 pm

Assuming you're responding to me Zenyatta, I simply responded to a political rant with a true story that everyone missed. And no, not the Earhart angle (none of us missed that), but the Henry-CrowdStrike connection. Should you go back to Jason's Earhart article, I made the same point; should you take the time to read the comments. But that's politics Zenyatta. You can't engage folks anymore. They're poor sports, and often enough, intellectually dishonest.

What's your bag?

An Anonymous Nerd
7/16/2018 10:57:38 pm

[Assuming you're responding to me Zenyatta, I simply responded to a political rant with a true story that everyone missed. And no, not the Earhart angle (none of us missed that), but the Henry-CrowdStrike connection. Should you go back to Jason's Earhart article, I made the same point; should you take the time to read the comments. But that's politics Zenyatta. You can't engage folks anymore. They're poor sports, and often enough, intellectually dishonest. ]

As I have demonstrated adequately, your point actually was to attempt to discredit the entire Russia story with reference to a Fringe story that one person whose firm was consulted by the DNC happened to be involved in.

I and others, however, have demonstrated not only that there is reason to believe that person's expertise in cyber security matters but not in old photographs, that other sources have addressed the Russia thing generally, and further that other (Republican) sources have even backed up the DNC hacking piece.

You seem to define any acknowledgement of the undeniable special relationship between the Fringe and the Right to be an "intellectually dishonest" "political rant," insult folks who point it out, then criticize us for not engaging in honest dialogue.

I only can hope that to the audience of this site the murderous irony is obvious.

-An Anonymous Nerd

AMERICANPEDRO
7/10/2018 12:59:13 pm

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinclair-lewis-on-fascism/

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americanegro
7/11/2018 02:09:17 pm

I love your name! Rock on!

Timothy
7/13/2018 10:06:08 pm

"The thing is", it is very easy to make spurious claims, invent facts supported by imaginary statistics, include superfluous propaganda and cliché opinion, to make your point and conclusion seem relevant or even obvious. That is textbook "Sophistry", which in a court of law, rather than Leftist "public opinion", would garner for its adherent a charge of contempt, and if continued, thirty-days in jail, including a rather stiff financial penalty. The fact is that just like the author, your commentary is shabby Sophistry. Where'd you get your "70%" number? Did you make it up or hear it from a fellow "Libtard" during a DNC Convention? "Trump, despite his lack of qualifications and humanity (jailed kids at the border)..." is quite the loaded, libelous phrase; and un-sophist-icated attempt to pass-off some misplaced, childlike resentment as a "forgone-conclusion". This type of cliché and Sophist-neophyte smear tactic invalidates its flawed argument by virtue of its intent and meaning. Even an accomplished Sophist would point out it out as a counter-intuitive aspersion, likely to unwind the manipulation being attempted. However, based on the article's inept authorship and blatantly pedestrian use of Sophistry as its artifice for deductive reasoning, the level of intellectual capacity, literacy and argumentative sophistication necessary for aberrant, natural attraction appears well-suited to the boorish flair you have for making laughable-commentary.

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Jack Parow
7/16/2018 07:54:23 am

Pops you are a liberal and as such have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to conservatives.its no wonder you believe this B S.

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Diana
7/25/2018 09:06:38 pm

I believe that is a quote from American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America ... by Chris Hedges

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Pops
7/10/2018 11:30:27 am

What I find interesting is the fights and divisions within the pseudoscientific community. Maybe that’s why they can’t get anything new and recycle the same stale things over and over again. They can’t even agree to the same bullshit they make up. Anyway, Jason there’s this interesting video essay done by a man who uses the moniker “Hbomberguy” on Youtube. (I know, Youtube? I try not to go unless it’s for music and the like but sometimes you stumble upon things). It’s about how to adapt Lovecraftian lore in the modern age and it analyses what makes Lovercraft’s work and weird fiction in general so attractive even today. You should take a look it might interest you.

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Aaa
7/10/2018 11:37:30 am

Is it possible that white race is better in many ways? Should we not be proud of our achievements?

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Altright
7/11/2018 01:43:51 am

Let me see. Car, airplane, internal combustion engine, helicopter, phone, radio, mobile phone, internet, science, radar, laser, compass, nuclear power, electricity, railway, etc. All invented by white people.

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Doc Rock
7/11/2018 10:07:57 am

Oh, the irony of this list being composed by someone posting as AltRight.


But thank for the excuse to transition from coffee to Bloody Mary two hours ahead of schedule..

Altright
7/11/2018 10:52:50 am

Forgot: computer, rocket, space exploration.

Altright
7/11/2018 11:02:17 am

Further: Bill of Rights, Constitution, democracy.

Doc Rock
7/11/2018 11:14:39 am

1.My understanding is that credit for invention of the compass goes to the Chinese. That’s also where the earliest concept of the rocket was developed.

2.The development of mathematics/engineering underlies many inventions on the list. The development of mathematics/engineering is generally viewed as emerging out of interaction between the West and Middle East.

3.Many of the advances in the invention and development of nuclear power (and other things) involved Jewish scientists working in the U.S. after they had been driven from Europe by ALTRIGHT types.

4.If you broaden the list and take a close look at things like complex large-scale architecture, military science, urban sanitation systems, plant domestication, animal domestication, complex agricultural systems, the wheel, medicine, gunpowder, firearms (arguably), brewing beer, distilling alcohol, etc. it puts a whole new paint job on the issue of “white” achievements.

Of course invention is often more of a long creative process with a lot of cooks stirring the pot thru time. So, trying to give sole credit to any specific person or society generally opens the floor to debate.

Think I will make the next two BMs doubles and then back to bed. I now yield the floor to the Kiddie Table.

BALDWHITE
7/11/2018 11:32:14 am

You probably have an IQ of 55.

Americanegro
7/11/2018 02:14:35 pm

Captain Drinky Poo, who seems to think Arabs aren't white, comes close to saying Jews aren't white. But his alcoholism makes that okay.

Doc Rock
7/12/2018 03:27:26 am

Of course Jews and Arabs aren't white. I know because I read it in a Dear Penthouse letter while I was looking for interesting pieces of investigative journalism.

That's why I made my son live outside in the garage. Couldn't have a dusky son of Abraham around when my fellow WASPS come a visiting.

Time for a nice glass of warm milk with a double shot of peppermint schnapps.

NED RICFERN.
7/11/2018 02:30:46 am

Hey, less of the bullying and aggro ok?
Let this scare you; I know how to deal with bullies.
I once chased off10 bodybuilding scoffers at a conference about Bigfoot.
Coz i am tougher than Dogman!
Bet ya scared now eh?

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BALDWHITE
7/11/2018 11:40:35 am

“OUR” achievements? Do you know how stupid you sound? So by being white, you’ve automatically contributed to whatever another white person has done? Do you apply this logic only one way or will you consequently also be ashamed of all “our” stupidities? Btw, what have YOU achieved?

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Aaa
7/11/2018 12:46:24 pm

Achievement? Voted for Trump, of course. To keep the country white and make it great again.

An Anonymous Nerd
7/11/2018 07:17:03 pm

"White" is a funny sort of concept. Who counts as White seems to differ depending on the speaker. In my experience most who go around saying "White Pride" don't mean Jews, Italians, or Arabs, and a bunch of other folks, some of whom have been considered "White" for some purposes over the years but not others.

But let us go further.

Claiming the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and other traditions of political liberty as part of the "White" legacy is a curious thing.

One of the many influences on the Constitution was an American Indian political arrangement.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/dec/02/facebook-posts/viral-meme-says-constitution-owes-its-notion-democ/
(The Facebook meme version of this is exaggerated at best, but the underlying premise of one of many influences seems true.)

Another of the many influences on Western ideals of liberty was various Italian political arrangements. (And again, see above. Italians weren't always considered White by everyone and there was, as I recall my history, plenty of anti-Italian prejudice in America. There remains some.)

https://www.amazon.com/Machiavellian-Moment-Florentine-Political-Republican/dp/0691114722
(I think Pocock is exaggerating too but he's got a point.)

To say nothing of the fact that the influence of Ancient Rome is explicitly acknowledged in "The Federalist Papers."

Expanding things to the traditions of political liberty more generally, Rousseau devotes a lot of time describing how American Indian political thought, origin stories, and political arrangements support his concepts of natural rights. (Whether he was right or not is a separate question. The point is that he, a great Western thinker of political liberty, didn't look at this idea and think "this comes from White people exclusively.")

I also note that a famous racist once acknowledged that the Constitution itself is color blind. From the first Justice Harlan's dissent in Plessy v. Ferguson (163 U.S. 537, 1896).

[[The white race deems itself to be the dominant race in this country. And so it is in prestige, in achievements, in education, in wealth and in power. So, I doubt not, it will continue to be for all time if it remains true to its great heritage and holds fast to the principles of constitutional liberty. But in view of the Constitution, in the eye of the law, there is in this country no superior, dominant, ruling class of citizens. There is no caste here. Our Constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens. In respect of civil rights, all citizens are equal before the law. The humblest is the peer of the most powerful. The law regards man as man, and takes no account of his surroundings or of his color when his civil rights as guaranteed by the supreme law of the land are involved. It is therefore to be regretted that this high tribunal, the final expositor of the fundamental law of the land, has reached the conclusion that it is competent for a State to regulate the enjoyment by citizens of their civil rights solely upon the basis of race.]]
(at page 559)

Martin Luther King's (not a White guy if you didn't know) further extrapolation of ideals of liberty, also deserves a lot of consideration.

You "White Pride" folks are claiming for yourselves a legacy that you're in fact subverting (you invoke political liberty and then seek to deny it), and that you haven't really earned.

Some great folks came up with great ideas that they only sometimes implemented, but now it's up to us to really carry their ideas through. And the lesson you would have us learn is not the content or implications of those ideas but, rather, your presumed skin color of the folks who wrote them down. You then look at yourself in the mirror, decide you have that skin color too, and that therefore you must be great, just like they were. Nevermind that you're subverting those very ideas, sometimes carrying flags representing ideas diametrically opposed to them, and that you seem to lack an understanding of our duty to better the folks who came up with ideas they couldn't live by, and that these ideas (as I've demonstrated) weren't exclusive to those whom are always considered White anyway!

The only reasonable reply to such a murder of basic logic is a resounding "no."

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Riley V
7/12/2018 02:08:43 am

Thank you Nerd.

Let me ad one more to your reading list:

https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

Doc Rock
7/12/2018 03:52:56 am

Some of the best and probably earliest examples of societies that were Democratic (depending on how it's being defined this week), including coming pretty close to legitimate gender equity, were non-white. No small irony in the fact that their social orders pretty much went down the toilet largely because of white colonialism. No small irony in the fact that these same societies would be pointed out by some of the lunatic fringe here as being the most primitive and lacking in achievements.

V
7/12/2018 02:16:32 am

If the "white race"--a social construct with a slippery and sliding definition based solely on how one is perceived by others--were truly "better in many ways," then people like you wouldn't be so hateful toward those you perceive as "not white," because you wouldn't feel so threatened that they might "take" your privilege.

Certainly there is nothing wrong with "being proud of our achievements." The problem lies with assuming that because we have achieved something, that no other person CAN.

As for Altright's list of "inventions of white people," it's funny to note that ALL OF THEM are inventions of an era of unprecedented power based on perceived racial identity which explicitly denied 1) the resources and opportunities to those deemed "not white" and 2) any involvement of those "not white" in the process of invention--and let me tell you, honey, over half of that list would not exist if there hadn't been people of color involved and denied the right to claim their own accomplishments.

Beating people down doesn't make you better, honey. It makes you a monster.

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Aaa
7/12/2018 06:45:24 am

_over half of that list would not exist if there hadn't been people of color involved and denied the right to claim their own accomplishments._

Can you give any examples?

_Beating people down doesn't make you better, honey. It makes you a monster._

Strong words, my friend, strong words. If any race is beaten down by the mainstream, it is the white race.

An Over-Educated Grunt
7/12/2018 10:46:48 am

Off the top of my head, the Chinese developed the compass, the printing press, and the solid-fuel rocket, the scientific method and the existence of medical schools belong to the Abbasid caliphate, and the use of black women as calculators in the early years of NASA is well documented.

Americanegro
7/13/2018 01:40:35 pm

You're oddly comfortable with saying "the use of black women".
Scarred old slaver, he's doin alright. Hear him whip the women just around midnight.

An Over-Educated Grunt
7/15/2018 07:58:15 pm

... But then, you're an idiot.

Machala
7/10/2018 01:22:36 pm

Thanks for my laugh of the day, Jason.Of course, anytime I watch or listen to David Wilcock, I have to laugh. This is a man, that even on a good day, isn't firing with all his rockets. Talk about being wired too tightly !
No wonder his girlfriend tried to beat the crap out of him, - regularly and unsuccessfully, apparently.
Wilted Cock is a clown and his opinions are laughable. Jay Weidner, on the other hand is a dangerous extremist, hiding behind the New Age facade of Gaia, in order to promote his extreme alt-right, white supremacist agenda.

I can't get the image out of my head of the scene in Frankenstein, where the angry villagers, armed with pitchfork and torches come after the hapless Monster - David Wilcock. Run, David...run...and be afraid,...be very afraid !!!

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Doc Rock
7/10/2018 01:23:25 pm

Cortez had a hell of a lot more than 65 men. He was supported by tens of thousands of Native American allies who couldn't stand the Aztecs.

Native Americans were (aren't) a homogenous group with the same marriage customs. But a common trend was intermarriage with outsiders whether it be other tribes, white captives, or others. If there were specific rules against marrying outside of a given tribe the loophole was formal adoption of outsiders who would then be socially recognized as eligible marriage partners. That included adult adoption.

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V
7/12/2018 02:24:53 am

Yeah, I noticed that the guy clearly also had no idea how large most of the "tribes" were. It's kind of like saying that the British were obviously entirely inbred because they seldom married anyone who wasn't British before the Industrial age. They only seem small by today's standards because white invaders did their damndest to genocide them all. At that, even today there are more than a quarter million recognized Cherokee, for example--well above a minimum viable population of as low as 80 or as high as 4,000.

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Doc Rock
7/12/2018 04:10:05 am

The pre-contact populations of the Crow, Pawnee, and Lakota consisted of tens of thousands of people scattered across multiple present day states. Even if they didn't have traditions of outsiders marrying into their tribes, it still would have taken strong conscious effort on their parts to come any where near achieving a level of inbreeding that the author of the quote attributed to them. I don't know how you would do that with a society the size of the Aztecs.

Americanegro
7/12/2018 06:25:34 pm

Because due to your alcoholism you know nothing about clan exogamy.

Doc Rock
7/12/2018 07:58:23 pm

I would hope that I know a bit about clans and exogamy since I spent about 25 years lecturing on systems of kinship and marriage in various college courses. Such knowledge is part of what one acquires in earning a Ph.D. In anthropology. Okay, somebody has paid attention to you here today. Now run along back to the kiddie table. Time for my pre-supper three glasses of Chardonnay.

Americanegro
7/13/2018 01:42:40 pm

"Cortez had a hell of a lot more than 65 men. He was supported by tens of thousands of Native American allies who couldn't stand the Aztecs."

A lie from a drunkard.

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An Anonymous Nerd
7/13/2018 06:44:54 pm

[Cortez had a hell of a lot more than 65 men. He was supported by tens of thousands of Native American allies who couldn't stand the Aztecs.]

Correct. Well maybe thousands instead of tens of thousands, I don't recall the specifics. Aztec rule was not benevolent or kind, and many of their conquests were eager for regime change.

Also Cortes arrived with more than 65 so he even started with that number!

Should anyone wish to challenge you on this point for some reason, see:

https://www.livescience.com/39238-hernan-cortes-conqueror-of-the-aztecs.html

and this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Conquistador-Hernan-Cortes-Montezuma-Aztecs/dp/0553384716

just for start. Lots of other books too. Were Cortes and his folks, Indian and Spanish, outnumbered? Yep! 65 vs the empire? No. I guess Wilcock thinks it was kinda like a fantasy battle.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Doc Rock
7/15/2018 01:48:00 pm

Spanish casualties in the failed attempt to conquer present-day Mexico City were estimated to be in the hundreds. Estimated casualties for their Native American allies was in the thousands. And that was just one battle during a campaign that lasted around two years.

Estimates vary, but looks like a bare minimum of 1100 Spanish troops and a bare minimum of 80,000 native allies is what Cortez was working with.





D
7/10/2018 02:25:25 pm

I don’t believe for a minute that Wilcock drinks his own kool-aid. Read his blog-posts prior to 2011. Back in the day he expertly played the role of a love-and-light-new-age-hippie guru. Then in 2012, he all of sudden became a fear-porn pushing right-winger who supports the overthrow of the US government. It was around this time he probably realized, what kind of audience was primarily attracted to his material.
His ‘resignation letter’ was obviously leaked by himself. The ostentatious virtue-signalling and overal tone suggests that this letter was written with the intention that his followers would read it and think to themselves: “Look, David’s fighting the good fight! See, haters, he’s one of the good guys! How can we financially support you, Dave?”
Gaia probably wanted to terminate their collaboration all along, and Wilcock, in an attempt to save face, decided to cook up the farce that is this letter. To me, it’s obvious that this guy is nothing but a slick manipulator and spin-doctor, who looks down on his own followers. Like the eagle-eyed huckster he is, he sized them up as desperate, naive and wholy disconnected from any credible sources of news and knowledge.

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D-2
7/20/2018 11:29:20 am

WORD

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A C
7/10/2018 05:09:12 pm

The adaptation of the Babylonian flood myth present in Genesis gives both the Enki (well, Ea since its Babylonian) and Enlil roles to Yaweh, so equating the Abrahamic god to either of them is cherry picking nonsense.

The idea that the serpent equates to Enki is based off the long discarded Apapa/Adam correlation that just never stood up outside of panbabylonic parrelomania. The two stories are thematically related but anything more direct than that is a stretch.

I spent a lot of time looking for snake god references for a historical fantasy series I was writing and if there were any good ones for Sumerian religion I would have jumped on them but there just wasn't much to go on. There are a lot of shapeshifting serpentine gods but they're dwarfed in number by equivalent lion and bull references and yet somehow we never got a discount David Ike with evil bull aliens or "the golden calf was actually the positive divine feminine that the evil Moses suppressed so I can project my abusive nonconformist American protestant upbringing into a mythical past".

Thanks to Sitchin fringe types throw around the word Sumerian pretty meaninglessly. There's a ton of Babylonian influence on the Bible but about the only sliver of Sumerian culture in there is the reference to the Tammuz festival in Ezekiel 8:14 which was just about the most enduring and widespread piece of Sumerian culture so the fact that its only mentioned once in the whole Biblical canon could just as easily suggest how little the ancient Israelites were exposed to anything Sumerian.

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Dunior
7/10/2018 05:46:48 pm

This is very amusing. Isn't Ancient Aliens also produced by a company called Prometheus Entertainment? Isn't Prometheus the Greek mythological version of Lucifer? Doesn't David Wilcock appear on several episodes of Ancient Aliens every season? Given his logic he won't be appearing on any more episodes of that show either. I would be willing to bet that its going to be just fine with David to continue appearing on shows produced by Prometheus a.k.a. Lucifer. To me is sounds like he broke up with Gaia before they broke up with him yet David will still go running to Prometheus to soothe his broken heart. Funny. Jay Weidner's comments were disgusting and should get him gone from Gaia along with his buddy.

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Campblor
7/10/2018 06:36:57 pm

Does Gaia TV really have an abusive work environment, unfairly compensates its employees, and deceptively edits its programs ??

Ancient Astronaut Theorists say "Yes"

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Riley Vdrrvenable@gmail.com
7/12/2018 02:18:58 am

I’m shocked that a New Religious Movement is splitting into the People’s Front Of Judea, the Judean People’s Front, and the Front for Judean People.

Giai was due for a fracturing and reforming. It will either become 2-3 “channels,” all successful, or three flameouts.

This happens every time.

Personally I’ve decided to call the movement Alien Astronauts, because I don’t believe there is anything Ancient about any of it.

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Dark Lord Graham H.
7/11/2018 02:35:34 am

Give me a few of my adoring followers entrails;
A few odd mushrooms from the jungle'
Mixed with a Ayyasatatsitsname infusion
And I will send demons and maybe a beard crazed Randal after you.
Be warned!

Ps: i am reincarnated from a butterfly.

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White God
7/11/2018 09:27:24 am

Oh shut up you fat headed, mongoloid looking faggot!

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stickler
7/11/2018 02:30:16 pm

Jason. If you're going to quote text in a block, against a differently colored background, using quote marks is unnecessary and frowned upon by style manuals. If you use one quote mark it is OBLIGATORY to use a second quote mark.

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Shane Sullivan
7/11/2018 02:56:37 pm

I believe he's said the quote mark thing is a feature of Weebly now. The first one shows up automatically, and it won't let him put in a second.

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Jason Colavito link
7/11/2018 04:26:15 pm

Yes, it's just a style thing. The block quote box comes with the (fake) quotation marks as a piece of art embedded in it. They aren't part of the text, and I didn't put them there.

An Anonymous Nerd
7/11/2018 07:23:16 pm

That quote mark is in effect a watermark that looks like a quote mark. Seen it all over.

You should change your name. A "Stickler" and a "Troll" are not the same thing.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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stickler
7/12/2018 06:32:47 pm

A watermark that looks like a quote mark is not a watermark, it's a quote mark you fat headed, mongoloid looking faggot!

An Anonymous Nerd
7/12/2018 06:39:19 pm

Calm down.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Purrl Gurrl
7/15/2018 12:39:51 am

My eyes are still rolling around in my head about all of this. But then anything Wilcock always has that effect on me.

I'm old enough to remember when the woo woo crazies and their out-there beliefs and conspiracy paranoia (not grounded in objective reality) came from the far Left on America's political spectrum.

The pendulum has swung vary widely, indeed, because now all the woo woo is coming from those on the far Right of that spectrum.

It's led me to contemplate that maybe we become doomed to become what we oppose, the moment we begin opposing it.



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Joe Scales
7/15/2018 10:10:55 am

Once you have an infusion of politics, truth is no longer the point.

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Purrl Gurrl
7/15/2018 05:18:17 pm

Everything that happens on Earth that's not the result of natural process, IS politics of one sort or another.

Welcome to the human race.

Joe Scales
7/15/2018 06:32:16 pm

Once you have an infusion of humans, truth is no longer the point.

Better?

An Anonymous Nerd
7/16/2018 10:51:13 pm

[It's led me to contemplate that maybe we become doomed to become what we oppose, the moment we begin opposing it.]

Nah.

[The pendulum has swung vary widely, indeed, because now all the woo woo is coming from those on the far Right of that spectrum.]

Not all of it, just most of it...And, even more importantly, the Left Fringe always was recognized as Fringe, and especially so now. By contrast the Right Fringe has gone mainstream and has a lot of funding behind it.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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David Wenbert
7/17/2018 04:59:20 pm

Because someone linked me this article, I got curious and found the "Ancient Civilizations" series, which is free to watch on DailyMotion. It is excellent. I found it much deeper and more 'information dense' than "Ancient Aliens", although the two, and their guest rosters are nearly identical. The bottom line is that their theories, regarding the Gnostics, the Sumerians, the Annunaki, etc., appear to be spot on. If the stone tablets contradict the "Bible", then so be it. They are original; the Bible is a bastardized plagurism of earlier scriptures of other religions, subjected to multiple dicey language translations from documents written centuries after the events they describe, and then put through multiple political committees for various edits over the years. As to the politics and posturing between Wilcock and Gaiai, there's enough flakiness here on both sides to go around; and I say that admiring their efforts to promote and his contributions to content on these subjects.

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Spiritous
7/17/2018 09:13:41 pm

So what I don’t understand in this clusterbang called #GEM is that Jimmy Church got his start with Coast to Coast. For him to confirm that this letter is indeed written by David, is causing my bs-ometer to go off. David Wilcock mentioned the Luciferian goings on with Coast to Coast as well, so why would Jimmy, who still does radio with Coast for George Noory confirm as much? David Wilcock and Jimmy Church are both are getting paid by History channel which is slowly turning into a shadow of Gaia. Are they in cohoots bc their egos are getting too big and History Channel is planning on enterprising on their salivating hunger for fame at the expense of integrity? Are they getting their pockets lined to smear Gaia in the attempts to cause a media frenzy amongst us “Conspiracy Nuts” to promote Jimmy and David’s shows on History? Something is off and I’m going to be on the other side of the fence and say it’s not Gaia. It’s David and Jimmy’s validity, integrity and honor to getting the truth out. I’ve always been on the fence with these guys. David just recently spoke on Jimmys radio show not too long ago talking about how people in the Conspiracy world won’t band together. Ironic David. Ironic. David you’re a freaking genius don’t bite the bait brother. Money isn’t everything.

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Searching for good comments
7/27/2018 10:02:21 am

[David just recently spoke on Jimmys radio show not too long ago talking about how people in the Conspiracy world won’t band together. Ironic David. Ironic.]

Ha! Finally a comment that's got a ring of truth to it.

On the other hand, perhaps David made a decision that will ultimately lead to more uniting that we realize. All this is speculation - I choose to see the incomplete evidence with an optimistic slant.

My faith in humanity's going strong, thank-you-very-much! :D

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D-2
7/20/2018 11:24:42 am

Awe......you're all just a bunch of "fluffers".......

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Joe Mamma link
7/21/2018 07:50:55 pm

Fuckin' A' Wilcock, takes balls to walk away rather than stay however, you can't let people know your girlfriend kicked your ass, like just stick with i walked away from evil, hopefully with your balls intact as she gave them back to you. talk to God and you are protected, fuck hancock.

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DarkStarAz
7/29/2018 10:44:30 pm

I've videotaped and edited conference footage where David Wilcock has presented - that's definitely his verbiage.

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DarkStarAz
7/29/2018 10:47:29 pm

As far as Graham Hancock goes the quotes are taken so far out of context as to be meaningless to this discussion.

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DarkStarAz
7/29/2018 10:49:08 pm

No one is on more of a quest for truth than Graham

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Fred Trump
10/27/2018 04:16:23 pm

All interesting except Trump has never been a conservative. If anything, Trump is on the far right fringe of the Democrat Party and that puts him directly in the center of the two acknowledged political sides.

Trump's mouth is what confuses people as they have never in their collective lifetimes seen someone who calls themselves conservative actually fight back against the left's media machine.

If Trump would have called himself a Democrat no one would have questioned his outlandish commentary or his creation of a Space Force. Par for the course.

I say Pizza Gate could be true. It is a fact Trump can't keep a cat in a bag.

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Keen Words
3/18/2019 09:37:38 pm

I have a very sweet liberal friend who is passionate about David Wilcock, believing everything he says without question. I was always kind of skeptical of him but I really became alarmed when she told me that the Parkland shooting survivors were "crisis actors". I started becoming even more suspicious of David Wilcock after she sent me a "peace and love" kind of video that involved QAnon. There's nothing "peace and love" ABOUT QAnon-- just crazy conspiracy theories-- the same kinds espoused by Wilcock. I'm beginning to wonder if he's actually behind the whole QAnon movement. He seems to already be adept at attracting people who will believe any loony thing he says, so it makes sense that he'd create a conservative movement that goes right along with Trump's sociopathic narrative of the world if that's indeed his true nature-- which it appears to be to me. Great way to appeal to people on the extreme fringe of the left-- go after the REALLY gullible New Agers. Extremism is extremism is extremism-- no matter how you color it.

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11/8/2019 11:43:57 am

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JSL
3/26/2020 12:01:59 pm

AG: Take Lucifer, who we are conditioned to believe was evil, but his name means ‘bringer of light’. That doesn’t sound evil to me.

GH: Not to me, either – and again, of course, the knee-jerk Christian faction will immediately say, ‘Oh, you’re a devil worshipper

ANDREW GOUGH (AG):
GRAHAM HANCOCK (GH)

From: https:// www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/interview-with-graham-hancock-ancient-civilisations-altered-states-of-consciousness

Luciferian:
https:// ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Luciferian

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solid_away
5/17/2021 09:53:19 am

yeah--this is a strange group of people. bizarre story. but yo. pizzagate is 100% real. Hastert, Podesta, Gates mansion was raided for child porn in 2014, Terry Bean, Clintons, Weiner and Abbedien, They're all pedophiles dude. Its not a crazy conspiracy theory, how many examples do you need? start at 6 minutes in...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oy7g949ci6Sg/
James Alefantis boyfriend is also head of MediaMatters, so yes--as someone that was born and raised in SF that could not get more liberal thinks people that are still on the left are 100% braindead right now. Ghislane Maxwell's father was known for blackmail of politicians using children. He also provided the weapons to israel for the arab-israel war. Check out craig spence, the bomb that never exploded. Reagan and Bush were using a call boy service. Clinton Podesta Podesta & John Wayne Gayce were tight. How about Clintons in Haiti? This isn't if there is smoke somehow you're not thinking fire... this is, you're watching ceiling high flames destroy a burning building around you and you're still in denial that there's a fire.

Sure Biden's first wife pulled out in front of a semi suddenly at night with a baby in her arms. Driver of truck swearing she did it intentionally, Biden never drinks again. Hunters smoking crack and Ashley's journals got published about her "inappropriate showers" with daddy and his friends. He did something to that baby. This shit is terrifying. Start with Hastert.

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Groovy
9/13/2022 01:45:58 am

I heard about David Wilcock and Corey Goode's complaint about GAIA network and read some things shared on social media by Laura Eisenhower and some woman named Peel. I almost cancelled my GAIA Membership and then I thought wait, watch the show, don't believe these people based on just what they are purporting. I watched the series. It seems factual to me and is based on other things I have read over the years from Hancock, Sitchin and others. How is it having a discussion about the origin of man and the nature of God in any way "Luciferian"? Discussion and freedom of speech are good things. The series is well done and any statements made seem well supported. On the other hand, some of the claims made by Corey Goode in the past do not seem well supported. I applaud GAIA on this series - Ancient Civilizations and believe it provides great food for thought and is in line with what many scholars have said over the years.

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      • Chariots of the Gods at 50
      • Secret History of Ancient Astronauts
      • Of Atlantis and Aliens
      • Aliens and Ancient Texts
      • Profiles in Ancient Astronautics >
        • Erich von Däniken
        • Robert Temple
        • Giorgio Tsoukalos
        • David Childress
      • Blunders in the Sky
      • The Case of the False Quotes
      • Alternative Authors' Quote Fraud
      • David Childress & the Aliens
      • Faking Ancient Art in Uzbekistan
      • Intimations of Persecution
      • Zecharia Sitchin's World
      • Jesus' Alien Ancestors?
      • Extraterrestrial Evolution?
    • Collection: Skeptic Magazine >
      • America Before Review
      • Native American Discovery of Europe
      • Interview: Scott Sigler
      • Golden Fleeced
      • Oh the Horror
      • Discovery of America
      • Supernatural Television
      • Review of Civilization One
      • Who Lost the Middle Ages
      • Charioteer of the Gods
    • Collection: Ancient History >
      • Prehistoric Nuclear War
      • The China Syndrome
      • Atlantis, Mu, and the Maya
      • Easter Island Exposed
      • Who Built the Sphinx?
      • Who Built the Great Pyramid?
      • Archaeological Cover Up?
    • Collection: The Lovecraft Legacy >
      • Pauwels, Bergier, and Lovecraft
      • Lovecraft in Bergier
      • Lovecraft and Scientology
    • Collection: UFOs >
      • Alien Abduction at the Outer Limits
      • Aliens and Anal Probes
      • Ultra-Terrestrials and UFOs
      • Rebels, Queers, and Aliens
    • Scholomance: The Devil's School
    • Prehistory of Chupacabra
    • The Templars, the Holy Grail, & Henry Sinclair
    • Magicians of the Gods Review
    • The Curse of the Pharaohs
    • The Antediluvian Pyramid Myth
    • Whitewashing American Prehistory
    • James Dean's Cursed Porsche
  • The Library
    • Ancient Mysteries >
      • Ancient Texts >
        • Mesopotamian Texts >
          • Atrahasis Epic
          • Epic of Gilgamesh
          • Kutha Creation Legend
          • Babylonian Creation Myth
          • Descent of Ishtar
          • Berossus
          • Comparison of Antediluvian Histories
        • Egyptian Texts >
          • The Shipwrecked Sailor
          • Dream Stela of Thutmose IV
          • The Papyrus of Ani
          • Classical Accounts of the Pyramids
          • Inventory Stela
          • Manetho
          • Eratosthenes' King List
          • The Story of Setna
          • Leon of Pella
          • Diodorus on Egyptian History
          • On Isis and Osiris
          • Famine Stela
          • Old Egyptian Chronicle
          • The Book of Sothis
          • Horapollo
          • Al-Maqrizi's King List
        • Teshub and the Dragon
        • Hermetica >
          • The Three Hermeses
          • Kore Kosmou
          • Corpus Hermeticum
          • The Asclepius
          • The Emerald Tablet
          • Hermetic Fragments
          • Prologue to the Kyranides
          • The Secret of Creation
          • Ancient Alphabets Explained
          • Prologue to Ibn Umayl's Silvery Water
          • Book of the 24 Philosophers
          • Aurora of the Philosophers
        • Hesiod's Theogony
        • Periplus of Hanno
        • Ctesias' Indica
        • Sanchuniathon
        • Sima Qian
        • Syncellus's Enoch Fragments
        • The Book of Enoch
        • Slavonic Enoch
        • Sepher Yetzirah
        • Tacitus' Germania
        • De Dea Syria
        • Aelian's Various Histories
        • Julius Africanus' Chronography
        • Eusebius' Chronicle
        • Chinese Accounts of Rome
        • Ancient Chinese Automaton
        • The Orphic Argonautica
        • Fragments of Panodorus
        • Annianus on the Watchers
        • The Watchers and Antediluvian Wisdom
      • Medieval Texts >
        • Medieval Legends of Ancient Egypt >
          • Medieval Pyramid Lore
          • John Malalas on Ancient Egypt
          • Fragments of Abenephius
          • Akhbar al-zaman
          • Ibrahim ibn Wasif Shah
          • Murtada ibn al-‘Afif
          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
        • Isidore of Seville
        • Book of Liang: Fusang
        • Agobard on Magonia
        • Book of Thousands
        • Voyage of Saint Brendan
        • Power of Art and of Nature
        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
        • Yazidi Revelation and Black Book
        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
        • Voyage of the Zeno Brothers
        • The Kensington Runestone (Hoax)
        • Islamic Discovery of America
        • The Aztec Creation Myth
      • Lost Civilizations >
        • Atlantis >
          • Plato's Atlantis Dialogues >
            • Timaeus
            • Critias
          • Fragments on Atlantis
          • Panchaea: The Other Atlantis
          • Eumalos on Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Gómara on Atlantis
          • Sardinia and Atlantis
          • Santorini and Atlantis
          • The Mound Builders and Atlantis
          • Donnelly's Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Morocco
          • Atlantis and the Sea Peoples
          • W. Scott-Elliot >
            • The Story of Atlantis
            • The Lost Lemuria
          • The Lost Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Africa
          • How I Found Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Termier on Atlantis
          • The Critias and Minoan Crete
          • Rebuttal to Termier
          • Further Responses to Termier
          • Flinders Petrie on Atlantis
        • Lost Cities >
          • Miscellaneous Lost Cities
          • The Seven Cities
          • The Lost City of Paititi
          • Manuscript 512
          • The Idolatrous City of Iximaya (Hoax)
          • The 1885 Moberly Lost City Hoax
          • The Elephants of Paredon (Hoax)
        • OOPARTs
        • Oronteus Finaeus Antarctica Map
        • Caucasians in Panama
        • Jefferson's Excavation
        • Fictitious Discoveries in America
        • Against Diffusionism
        • Tunnels Under Peru
        • The Parahyba Inscription (Hoax)
        • Mound Builders
        • Gunung Padang
        • Tales of Enchanted Islands
        • The 1907 Ancient World Map Hoax
        • The 1909 Grand Canyon Hoax
        • The Interglacial Period
        • Solving Oak Island
      • Religious Conspiracies >
        • Pantera, Father of Jesus?
        • Toledot Yeshu
        • Peter of les Vaux-de-Cernay on Cathars
        • Testimony of Jean de Châlons
        • Rosslyn Chapel and the 'Prentice's Pillar
        • The Many Wives of Jesus
        • Templar Infiltration of Labor
        • Louis Martin & the Holy Bloodline
        • The Life of St. Issa (Hoax)
        • On the Person of Jesus Christ
      • Giants in the Earth >
        • Fossil Origins of Myths >
          • Fossil Teeth and Bones of Elephants
          • Fossil Elephants
          • Fossil Bones of Teutobochus
          • Fossil Mammoths and Giants
          • Giants' Bones Dug Out of the Earth
          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
          • Fossil Bones and Giants
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
        • Purchas His Pilgrimage
        • Edmond Temple's 1827 Giant Investigation
        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
      • Science and History >
        • Halley on Noah's Comet
        • The Newport Tower
        • Iron: The Stone from Heaven
        • Ararat and the Ark
        • Pyramid Facts and Fancies
        • Argonauts before Homer
        • The Deluge
        • Crown Prince Rudolf on the Pyramids
        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
        • Devil Worship in France
        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
        • Chinese Pyramids
        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • American Antiquities
        • American Cataclysms
        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
      • US Government Ancient Astronaut Files >
        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
        • Premodern UFO Sightings
        • The Moon Hoax
        • Inhabitants of Other Planets
        • Blavatsky on Ancient Astronauts
        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
    • The Supernatural >
      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
      • Voltaire on Vampires
      • Demonology and Witchcraft
      • Thaumaturgia
      • Bulgarian Vampires
      • Religion and Evolution
      • Transylvanian Superstitions
      • Defining a Zombie
      • Dread of the Supernatural
      • Vampires
      • Werewolves and Vampires and Ghouls
      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Scrapbook
      • James Dean's Love Letters
      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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