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Geologist Robert Schoch Claims to Be Able to "Translate" Alleged "Writing" at Göbekli Tepe

1/11/2020

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So, my hard drive failed for the second time in three months. My computer is still functional, to a point, so I can use it intermittently while I wait for HP to send me a box to ship it back for more repairs, including the fault sound, flickering screen, etc. They informed me that the hard drive has to die three times before they will admit that this computer is a lemon and replace it. So, stay tuned for hard drive failure number three later this spring.
This week, geologist Robert Schoch appeared on the Lost Origins podcast, which was sponsored by “The Great Courses Plus,” a subscription service providing video lectures from college professors. Just think about that for a moment. A zany fringe history podcast gets cash from The Great Courses to promote the opposite of their own claims. Money makes strange bedfellows.
Listen to "S03E16 - Dr. Robert Schoch // The True Age of Civilization" on Spreaker.
The podcast itself was much less interesting. Schoch is a boring speaker, and he tends to speak like a stereotype of a college professor. He never varies his tone, and his words start to become a wall of undifferentiated sound. It’s hard for me to listen to him talk for too long because my mind starts to wander.
 
Schoch repeated most of his usual claims, particularly his 1992 argument that the Sphinx had been carved prior to dynastic Egypt, a nineteenth century idea that Schoch adopted from R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz via John Anthony West. Schwaller de Lubicz got it from Gaston Maspero, who adopted it from Auguste Mariette, who came up with it because he mistook a Ptolemaic stela for an Old Kingdom one and therefore mistook a myth on the Inventory Stela for a historical account. This time, however, Schoch claims that he realized the Victorians and occultists were right “within 1 or 2 minutes” of arriving at Giza. Truth be told, that doesn’t fill me with confidence.
 
Another section of the podcast led to Schoch concluding that there is no evidence of the so-called Younger Dryas impact event which is so popular among Graham Hancock and his followers. It’s interesting to see a rift between the two advocates of pseudo-Atlantis, I guess. He reiterates his claim that ancient people recorded “plasma” events from the sun, which caused the end of the Ice Age.
 
Schoch describes the end of the last Ice Age in geological detail, but he never quite makes the case that the dramatic changes at the end of the period destroyed a lost civilization. Even if we accept his claims about solar plasma, it implies nothing about the existence of an advanced, state-level civilization for it to destroy.
 
He then discusses his excitement about viewing the Turkish site of Göbekli Tepe at sunrise, and he talks about the emotional reaction he has to ancient sites, which therefore colors his belief that they must be something more closely associated with an urban civilization similar to our own. Feelings… beliefs… blah, blah, blah.
 
More depressing is Schoch’s new claim that Göbekli Tepe was the site of a literate civilizations some 8,000 years before the first systems of writing. Remarkably, he also claims to be able to translate the “writing” he sees on the stones of the site. He claims that one stone reads “God of gods,” and I’d say it’s a darn site remarkable that he can translate a heretofore unsuspected system of writing in a 10,000-year-old language no one alive has ever heard. After all, several writing systems from historic times, such as linear A, related to languages that were only spoken a few thousand years ago, remain largely unreadable. We can’t even read Etruscan fluently, and yet Schoch has supposedly learned to read an Ice Age language! Think about that. For example, Old English is largely unintelligible to modern English speakers, while the Ice Age is removed in time from us by a factor of twenty times that chronological distance. The unlikeliness of Schoch’s claim boggles the mind.

Nevertheless, Schoch apparently published a paper about the claim a couple of months ago, and it is as weird as you would imagine. He claims that Göbekli Tepe contains Luwian (!) hieroglyphs, from the Anatolian culture that we have encountered on this blog as part of a fringe extremist view of the Trojan War and its supposed Luwian connection to Atlantis. (Naturally, Schoch cites the work of the Atlantis theorist behind the Luwian claims.) Luwian writing dates to around 1500 BCE, but Schoch makes only a shallow effort to bridge the gap between the oldest hypothesized Luwian predecessor script c. 2000 BCE and the heyday of Göbekli Tepe eight millennia earlier. His hypothesis is that the Luwians adopted Göbekli Tepe symbols as part of their writing system due to their preservation in Anatolian oral traditions (the stone versions being buried) and therefore the meaning remained unchanged for 8,000 years. Given that our own alphabet looks nothing like its predecessors from just a few thousand years ago and that the adoption of Egyptian hieroglyphs by their successors preserved almost nothing of the original meaning after only a few centuries, I find this claim to be impossibly unlikely. (Cf. for example, the decline of hieroglyphic knowledge from ancient Egypt to Horapollo to Abenephius to Ibn Wahshiyya.) Schoch admits in his article that the Luwian symbols are not identical to those of Göbekli Tepe, only somewhat similar. I think he is seeing what he wants to see and reading what he wants to read.

Schoch is not a linguist or an expert in Luwian. His coauthor, Manu Seyfzadeh, is also not a linguist but is a pyramid enthusiast who claims that The Orion Mystery helped him discover occult secrets in the Great Pyramid.

Anyway, the hosts ask Schoch about the so-called “handbags” held in the hands of statues and carvings of ancient gods, demigods, and demons. Schoch claims that they are “arcing” solar emissions. Uh-huh. Why, then, did the ancients fail to depict the, you know, sun in such carvings? Well, Schoch clarifies that he isn’t actually talking about handbags around the world, just a single symbol at Göbekli Tepe. So, consequently, this part of the conversation was a waste of time.
 
The podcast then ends without any actual evidence being presented for any of the claims. The end.
82 Comments
HUGH'S POO
1/11/2020 08:54:02 am

Robert would get a 'Schoch' if he could see my toilet leavings earlier, I tell ya!
Wow, what a pole of megalith sized babs, that certainly stretched my 'Sphinx'ter!

Ooooo my oh my; maybe the good Doctor could come use his remarkable skills and translate some of the writings I saw on the walls of the public toilets where I squeezed out my log links?
-They didn't seem to make sense.

Must go now, my travel companion pee-pee and I, are of to leave a few droppings in Lovelock cave for the travellers to find.
We like doing that.

Earth energies, giants, telluric currents, etc, etc, blah blah........

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Doc Rock
1/11/2020 09:30:48 am

Well, he did go from writing textbooks on vertebrate paleontology, if I recall, to making a rather precise dating of a human fabricated rock structure that is off by about 7000ish thousand years. So it makes perfect sense that he decides one day that he can read what is carved at GT.

A while back he was saying some batshit crazy stuff about Easter island in videos that reminded me of a late night Scientology infomercial. Can't remember if that is where he started down the path to looney ville by claiming to read the actual script they used there?

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HUGH'S POO
1/11/2020 09:55:59 am

I left a few fudge Cumberland sausages on Easter Island too.

I liked to leave my plop offerings around the base of the statues & watch as Robert and his buddies handled the sun baked stools, thinking them to be some ancient offering, or ley line lain lump loads.

Must go; my innards are aching to express!.

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Schoch
1/11/2020 10:24:57 am

The BBC claimed they asked an independent geologist on a documentary about The Orion Mystery to analyse the Sphinx, only showing part of it - without revealing it was the Sphinx. The geologist was Robert Schoch, who came up with his conclusions. I presume he afterwards used R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz et al as "verification" for his conclusions about the Sphinx.

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TONY S.
1/11/2020 01:00:49 pm

It was John Anthony West that did that, the geologist was from Oxford. West at the time was looking for support from a geologist that was attached to a university in order to give his theory credibility before making it public.

He took a picture of the Sphinx and covered the head and paws with masking tape to make it look like an ordinary cliff face.

The Schwaller de Lubicz connection came from West, and it dates to the late 70s. Schoch had nothing to do with it . De Lubicz mentioned in his book Sacred Science that the Sphinx appeared to show signs of water erosion. West took that comment and ran with it, making it the subject of a chapter in his 1970s book Serpent in the Sky. It was the whole reason why West went seeking academic support for the theory, which was ultimately what led him to Schoch.

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I have got a copy of the video
1/11/2020 01:16:51 pm

West was featured on the BBC documentary, but only as an example of a believer working as a tourist guide catering for other believers. West was not a professional geologist.

Schoch was the professional geologist who was asked as an independent to test Bauval & Gilbert's claims about the Sphinx as given in their book The Orion Mystery. The BBC presented Schoch with examples of how the stone on the Sphinx looked like for him to do a diagnosis. And that BBC work was the beginning of Schoch's activities in pseudo-history.

TONY S.
1/11/2020 02:31:51 pm

Yes, exactly right. That's what I said. West was not an academic, which was why he needed a professional geologist to sign off on his theory before taking it public.

They first presented their findings at an annual meeting of geologists in 1991. That touched off a now infamous war in the press between supporters and doubters. As a result of that, Schoch and West were invited to present their data at the 1992 Annual American Meeting for the Advancement of Science. Because West was not an academic only Schoch was allowed to take the podium. That meeting in turn led to the production of the 1993 TV documentary The Mystery of the Sphinx.

TONY S.
1/11/2020 03:30:53 pm

Gilbert and Bauval didn't write anything about the Sphinx in The Orion Mystery as it was not their theory. I don't recall them using a geologist in their research since their focus was on archaeo astronomy, how the star shafts lined up with important stars via procession and the sky ground dualism they theorized that the Egyptians utilized in their groundplan, and the religion behind it.I don't recall a geologist involved but even if there had been one it wasn't Schoch.
Their work had to do with the Orion Correlation Theory. Hancock connected the two issues of Sphinx and Orion n his book Fingerprints of the Gods in 1995. There were one or two TLC docs at that time that tied everything together as well. When Orion Mystery was being written they'd would have had no reason to bring in a professional geologist. At any rate, Schoch didn' enter the realm of pseudoshistory until 1991 when West brought him in to study the erosion patterns on the Sphinx.The Orion Mystery was first published in the mid 1980s.

Schoch
1/11/2020 04:09:21 pm

You're right Tony S - I got the documentary wrong. The BBC made two related documentaries - one about the Sphinx and one about The Orion Mystery (that the BBC had to backpedal on later). I take it that you know about stuff between Schoch and West not reported about on the documentary about the Sphinx.

Schoch
1/11/2020 04:57:18 pm

There was nothing in the documentary about the Sphinx to suggest that Schoch and West knew each other

Schoch - Second correction
1/11/2020 05:37:25 pm

You're right again Tony S - just watched the documentary again and West says on the documentary that it was him and not the BBC who approached Schoch about the dating of the Sphinx.

Timewatch: Age of The Sphinx (produced by Stephen Haggard, BBC 2, 6 July 1995)

Schoch
1/12/2020 02:49:40 am

The other documentary was called The Great Pyramid - Gateway to the Stars (produced by John Blake & Chris Mann, BBC 2, 6 February 1994)

VHS video cassette £99.00
http://bufvc.ac.uk/dvdfind/index.php/title/9012

The Great Pyramid - Gateway to the Stars
1/12/2020 08:38:51 am

YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgRF1e66_8

That, and "Age of the Sphinx" - were both once uploaded online in HD digital quality about 9 years ago

Timewatch: Age of The Sphinx
1/13/2020 10:14:24 am

That Timewatch documentary is a re-edited version of "The Mystery of the Sphinx" that was hosted on US Television by Charlton Heston (2013). That's on YouTube.

BBC Adjudication re Bauval & Hancock
1/13/2020 01:40:03 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/atlantisreborn_bsc_synopsis.shtml

Renee
1/11/2020 10:44:33 am

First The History Channel and Discovery Channel fell to fringe ideas, now The Great Courses. What a pity. I don't subscribe to Great Courses, but I've listened to free content on YouTube. Subscribers should complain, and so should their other lecturers.

I looked at Robert Schoch's Wikipedia entry and it seems he was once a respected academic who did good research. He went the other way with his water erosion theory of the pyramid. What is it about the pyramids that makes people go nuts? The known pyramid history is interesting enough without crackpot ideas.

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Fringe Ideas
1/11/2020 11:09:51 am

Witness all the fundamentalist religious stuff on YouTube that is pure historical fiction. People should complain about that because there is no historical or archaeological evidence to substantiate any stories in the Bible.

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Doc Rock
1/11/2020 12:10:47 pm

Okay I am officially complaining about any and all YouTube videos that make the claim that the bible is well substantiated thru historical records and archaeology. Ok? Perfect, now we can get back to the topic at hand.

Renee
1/11/2020 12:35:46 pm

Fringe ideas, YouTube is a platform anyone can use for any content, within reason. I have no problem if religious people want to make a video to disseminate among other religious people. Just don't watch it.

I have a huge problem with Robert Schoch's lectures being on the Great Courses channel, because it conflates history with pseudohistory. Many people won't be able to tell the difference.

FRINGE IDEAS
1/11/2020 01:31:59 pm

Officially, people have got the right to believe in rubbish. That right originated with Freemasonry to withdraw the monopoly on belief that was held by religious belief in the Bible. It was part of the history of the Enlightenment. That's why various Freemasonic rites are decorated with modern myths about the Bible to do with Hiram Abiff and later involved myths about the Templars, within its own private rituals.

Following the success of books like Chariots of the Gods and Morning of the Magicians the word criticism started creeping in.. When In Search Of... was first shown during the 1970s the word uncritical began creeping in. The word sceptical first began way after that and it could have been the launch of Skeptical Inquirer magazine and the launch of CISCOP that was responsible for fashioning the word as being popular and universally relative in relation to criticism of pseudo-scence.

The widespread rise in pseudo-science has formed a new emphasis in scepticism that acts as a balancing act putting things to the critical test.

As things stand, there is no clear universal consensus against pseudo-science because there are foolish governments in existence that take Uri Geller, UFOs, Targ & Puthoff, seriously - not to mention it's the official line for many world leaders to take the stuff in the Bible seriously as well.

FRINGE IDEAS
1/11/2020 01:55:07 pm

I should have added there are two types of scepticism - Rational Scepticism (non-religious) and non Rational Scepticism - whereby Non-Rational Scepticism is Biblical Apologetic and an extension of religious fundamentalism, that appears totally contradictory in nature.

Renee
1/11/2020 02:29:20 pm

Fringe Ideas,
So I'm confused about the Knights Templar in Freemasonry. I did a Google search and read that the Masons began that rite specifically for members who were Christian. But you say they did it against Christianity, as a way of co opting and diluting their beliefs? I'm thinking of Scott Wolter and his Templar obsession.

Fringe Beliefs
1/11/2020 03:52:32 pm

I guess authentic Freemasonry devised their Templar myths within their rituals because Templars were proscribed as heretics. Nothing to do with anything related to Scott Wolter, whose theories and claims derive from modern myths that began with Holy Blood, Holy Grail.

Kent
1/11/2020 04:16:29 pm

If the Great Course Channel had been around in the early 20th century they shouldn't have let the plate tectonics guy on? That seems to be the argument.

"Zangger is a scientist with a failed hypothesis about Atlantis, whereas Schoch is the fringe extremist."

First, in regard to Atlantis, "failed hypothesis" is redundant. Schoch is a scientist whose analysis of the evidence in this case is at odds with the majority opinion in the field.

I'm imagining West saying "Take a look at this photo and tell me what you think. Good God man! Don't look under the masking tape!

The real problem with the Great Courses Channel is they don't accept the Holy Trinity, the apostolic succession, the sacraments, the infallibility of the Pope when speaking ex cathedra and Original Sin. It's important that right thinking people such as ourselves control their content!

Nailz
1/11/2020 04:28:36 pm

Now if someone gave a lecture on Great Courses Plus, applying the science of plate tectonics to the continental drift of loose brain material inside Kent’s skull, then I’d definitely pay to watch it!

TONY S,
1/11/2020 12:33:05 pm

Schoch was indeed a young respected geologist, I remember it myself when he first came to the notice of the general public in 1992. If you watch or read interviews given by him during that period he comes off much more measured, cautious, rational and intelligent. That's why it's so depressing to see him go off the fringe cliff into la la land the way he has.

I do find it amusing that Schoch undercuts Hancock's comet impact theory. It's not the first the first time he's disabused him of a fringe belief. When Yonaguni first came to the attention of Hancock and his friends in the late 90s, they went diving there. Schoch stated flatly then and there that everything at the site was a result of natural geological processes.
Hancock included the video clip of Schoch stating that in his documentary Flooded Kingdoms of the Ice Age. Back then he was still trying to give the impression that he was being objective and was open to rational explanations.

Hancock wasn't happy when I reminded him of Schoch's opinion regarding Yonaguni on his FB page. It's interesting which of Schoch's opinions he chooses to use to bolster various fringe claims and which ones he chooses to ignore when inconvenient.

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Prospero45
1/12/2020 12:37:26 pm

Schoch also featured in 'Atlantis Reborn' the superb BBC Horizon team's hatchet job on several of Hancocks pet 'theories'. This is the programme which he still blubbers about to this day.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x33mfs5

Atlantis Reborn
1/13/2020 10:11:29 am

There are two versions of the documentary. The first version had to be re-edited because Hancock was misrepresented by the BBC editing out a crucial piece of his interview. Hancock was successful in his appeal in being misrepresented by the BBC and Atlantis Reborn had to be re-cut.

Atlantis Reborn - BBC Adjudication
1/13/2020 01:41:30 pm

Put this message in wrong place before

https://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/atlantisreborn_bsc_synopsis.shtml

Atlantis documentaries
1/13/2020 04:26:14 pm

There were three such documentaries altogether, having checked my archives.

Atlantis Uncovered, Part One (28 October 1999); Atlantis Reborn, Part Two (4 November 1999); Atlantis Reborn Again (14 December 2000)

Kent
1/11/2020 10:37:22 pm

If you're so smart, how do you account for potatoes in Lord of the Rings, huh?

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The second doctor sucked
1/12/2020 12:45:17 am

Pommes de terre du mileu?

Correction
1/12/2020 12:50:58 am

*Milieu

I tango arcana dei
1/13/2020 07:02:09 pm

Pommes bleus

Blue Brain Priory of Sion Insanity
1/14/2020 06:11:41 am

The world is blue as an orange
No error the words do not lie
They no longer allow you to sing
In the tower of kisses agreement
The madness the love
She her mouth of alliance
All the secrets all the smiles
Or what dress of indulgence
To believe in quite naked.
The wasps flourish greenly
Dawn goes by round her neck
A necklace of windows
You are all the solar joys
All the sun of this earth
On the roads of your beauty.

Paul Eluard

Hilda Hilpert
1/14/2020 03:50:11 pm

I've never heard anything about water erosion in regards to the pyramids. My late father was in North Africa during WW2,and i have photos of the pyramids and the sphinx from his time there. Never mentioned anything about seeing water wear on either.
He spoke more about the cave paintings in the lybian Desert, and about seeing from the air what appeared to be the remains of towns in the desert. Once asked if any archeologists excavated these places, and he said no, not to his knowledge as some were pretty far out. I personally feel the pyramids might be a little older than we believe, but am willing to say I might be wrong. As far as being able to read the writing at Gobelki Tepe, that's just guess work.

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T. Franke link
1/11/2020 01:44:13 pm

To call Eberhard Zangger's ideas "fringe extremist" is way too hard, although I agree that Zangger's Atlantis idea is wrong. This qualificaiton is especially strange in a context where Schoch claims that Luwian hieroglyphs have something to do with the Göbekli Tepe pictures, because ....... if Zangger is a "fringe extremist", what increase of qualification remains for Schoch?

IMHO, Zangger is a scientist with a failed hypothesis about Atlantis, whereas Schoch is the fringe extremist.

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Kent
1/11/2020 03:13:06 pm

Jason, it appears you're married to HP but you might want to reconsider. This obviously isn't your issue but they made a SSD that is built to fail after 3 years 9 months of use.

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/11/26/164218/some-hpe-ssds-fail-after-3-years-and-9-months-company-warns

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Jason Colavito link
1/11/2020 07:34:44 pm

I'm not married to it. In fact, it's the first HP I've owned in more than 15 years. The first hard drive died after 9 months and the second after 3 months.

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Redactor
1/12/2020 04:08:23 am

That's an incredible coincidence. Obviously there are supernatural forces that are annoyed at you.

But seriously, it's way more likely that this is customer service being on some script that they're not allowed to deviate from than that you really had two hard drive failures that soon. They fail in years, not months.

Redactor
1/12/2020 04:06:39 am

I fear that the Gobekli Tepi stuff is going to be another Roswell. 30 years of bullshit, except worse because it's masking actual archaeologists' research into something real.

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Tony C
1/12/2020 10:47:39 am

Tony S Hit the Nail on the Head regarding several false claims Schoch made, as well as his insight on the Orion Correlation Theory. Discover Channel will probably next start using Astrology "experts" to explain Astronomy Correlational Theories.

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Doc Rock
1/12/2020 10:29:36 pm

Schoch seems to have done well for himself with those false claims. Makes me want to consider a second career in the fringe. Maybe I will jet off to some Caribbean paradise like the Bahamas and hop on the bandwagon of proclaiming underwater natural formations as ancient ruins.

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Actually
1/13/2020 10:03:51 am

There's a mainstream trained professional geologist who came to the same conclusions about the Sphinx as Schoch but asked to keep his name private.

Kenneth L. Feder and Orion Mystery
1/13/2020 10:22:07 am

Kenneth L. Feder has not addressed the Orion Mystery claims in a critical way in his books about fringe archaeology.

Doc Rock
1/13/2020 12:32:31 pm

If I was a geologist who had reached the same unsubstantiated looney tunes conclusion as Schoch I would probably want my name kept out of it too.

Kent
1/13/2020 01:23:37 pm

I take the easy route and just say that poster "ACTUALLY" is lying with a made-up story. It's usually the right answer.

ACTUALLY
1/13/2020 01:33:40 pm

Yes, it's possible that West made-up the anonymous geologist after he found Schoch

Doc Rock
1/13/2020 02:03:38 pm

Hence my use of "if."

Kent
1/13/2020 03:01:41 pm

No, your use of "If" was because you are not a geologist. Fuck that shit, Pabst Blue Ribbon.

And it should have been "If I were...".

Doc Rock
1/13/2020 03:27:03 pm

If you are going to try to play grammar Nazi then you might review your use of "usually" in this particular context. And tighten up that mask it is slipping again.

Speaking of PBR, I am due for a cold one.

Kent
1/13/2020 03:37:49 pm

"It's usually the right answer" is somehow bad grammar?

Fuck you, bitch. Who's the Grammar Nazi now? "Oooh, you made me feel/look bad, you must be Hitler!"

Doc Rock
1/13/2020 04:28:00 pm

In over his head, unable to understand why, and quickly going into meltdown mode because if it. That's the old American Negro that we all know and don't love.

Can't wait to show this to the newest crop of waitresses at the fav watering hole. They USUALLY think I am lying when I regale them with takes of the kiddie table.

Sorry, revise and resubmit, preferably after a long nap and the evening course of meds. No more attention until you can show at least a little improvement.

Ahh, two bottles of becks in the fridgy fridge. Time for my long delayed first kiss of the day.

For newcomers here, this is how you do it.

Kent's Overly tight Sphinxter
1/13/2020 05:17:29 pm

I hope kent= American negro is not a stunning revelation for you. He USUALLY is not this flagrant about it, though. Sorry but I couldn't help myself.

Kent
1/13/2020 05:18:02 pm

Yes, newcomers, imaginary waitresses and all too real alcoholism is how it's done.

"It's usually the right answer" is somehow bad grammar?

Kent
1/13/2020 05:31:07 pm

Without going into the typing and capitalization mistakes, because everyone does that, this stands out as especially pathetic:

"Can't wait to show this to the newest crop of waitresses at the fav watering hole."

Because THAT's what waitresses live for. Reading that I want to hit myself in the head with a hammer like an Iranian funeral-goer at the thought that such idiocy is at large in the world.

Always nice to hear from the one guy who's never fucked a waitress. (Y'see, the only possible comeback is "I have TOO fucked a waitress!" and right thinking people will go... oooh, TMI dude, you're just icky!)

Doc Rock
1/13/2020 06:05:52 pm

Mr Sphinxter,

Nope, not a news flash. Didnt even need him to encourage someone with mental health issues to commit suicide or start talking about bad touching little boys to figure that out a while back.

He can't follow the remedial level trail of breadcrumbs I've dropped with the usually/if thingy. So I am happy to just drop it and sit back and enjoy this much more entertaining shit show. LaCinda (yep, that's how she spells it) here at the pub wanted to know if AmericaNegro kisses his momma with that filthy mouth. I told her she really doesn't want to know.

Ahh, my cheese fries and glass of chard has arrived. And my work here is done.

Nighty night.


Kent, if you want to show off
1/13/2020 07:10:53 pm

what a grammar whiz you are, you should have hyphenated "all- too-real" when you wrote "all too real alcoholism," because the word "alcoholism" is a determiner word.

Kent, you revealed yourself to be
1/13/2020 10:55:56 pm

a despicable misogynist. Awesome comment: "Always nice to hear from the one guy who's never fucked a waitress." Because that's what waitresses are there for: for lowlifes like Kent to treat like sex objects. Because everyone knows that waitresses are so trashy that if you've never had sex with them, well, then, you can't get anybody.

Who in the year 2020 even talks like this, especially on a forum for the exchange of intelligent ideas? What does sex with waitresses even have to do with Gobekli Tepe? I'm surprised he didn't start talking about what an alpha male he is and how women really love men who take charge and tell them what to do.

That whole exchange reminded me of the movie "A Few Good Men." Tom Cruise's character goaded Jack Nicholson's character into telling what he really believed.
Tom Cruise: "Did you order the code red? Did you order the code red?"
Jack Nicholson, after some badgering: "You goddamn right I did!" Jack Nicholson is shocked at what he just admitted.

Doc Roc patiently tried to answer your questions, but because you're such a little crybaby and have an extremely low threshold of insult, you got angry and blurted out what you really think. We all now know who you are and what you are. I pour scorn on you.

Kent
1/13/2020 11:52:15 pm

Whoa! In my experience waitresses are nice ladies who bring me food and beverages. I don't bother them with "Hey look at what I wrote on the internet" because that seems pathetic. And Rupert Pupkinish.

I think we all know when Doc says "waitress" that's code for "stripper" who are also nice ladies.

You SJWs are confusing me. Is it right or wrong to have sex with waitresses? I've only gotten nipple. Am I behind the curve? Should I show them Doc Rock's posts and claim they're mine to get a leg up? The way he tells it "waitresses" luvvv looking at his internet posts.

"It's usually the right answer" is somehow bad grammar? That's the question that Rupert, excuse me PAUL KERSEY, excuse me, Doc Rock chose not to answer.

I on the other hand, am too busy looking gooooood!!!

Go Back To Jungle To Reset
1/14/2020 06:14:39 am

To go back to the time when men were men - and women were grateful

Going back to Ken Feder
1/14/2020 06:17:35 am

Ken Feder does not belly ache about the Orion correlation theory of Bauval & Gilbert

Alice's Restaurant
1/14/2020 12:22:07 pm

Dropping F-bombs is in poor taste and is a greater sin than the minor grammatical errors you attacked. Very irrational behavior.

Unless you live in a very rural area I am confident that there are many fine mental health services available in your area. Since you obviously have 24-7 access to a computer and plenty of free time maybe you should look into getting some help. You won't regret it.

Kent
1/14/2020 04:29:02 pm

As I understand it your recommendation is that I should kill myself because I talked about fucking waitresses. I appreciate the advice and will put that on my "to do" list.

Dr. Phil
1/14/2020 05:07:07 pm

"As I understand it...."

Uh, you don't. Try reading what people write here instead of treating their words like ink blots that mean whatever you want them to mean.

Kent
1/14/2020 05:21:05 pm

Please stop using this roundabout method to contact me. I have told you repeatedly I am not interested in 13 year old boys and assisting you would be both morally wrong and legally wrong. I want no part of it. Please do not ever contact me again.

Dr. Phil
1/14/2020 06:10:52 pm

Nice illustration of my point about ink blots.

Adam Walsh
1/14/2020 06:27:21 pm

Damn, he walked right into that one.

Totally not Ritz cameras in Bethesda md.
1/14/2020 10:24:18 pm

The cool thing about Adam Walsh is not the he was murdered by a child killer, but that his father routinely submits 400+ print orders of photos of his corporate getaways with his hot assistants.

Adam is at best a cloud of dust in his rear view mirror.

"Rear view is not a word you bastard!"

Kenr
1/13/2020 12:48:48 am

Contrary to what was shown on the coasttocoastam.com site, Robert Schoch appeared on Coast To Coast AM the evening of Sunday Jan. 12 from 11 pm EST, maybe even from 10 pm EST. Talking Sphinx, solar event ending the Ice Age, Göbekli Tepe and Çatalhöyük, along with all kinds of other nonsense. Referenced the NBC documentary "Mystery of the Sphinx". George Noory his usual gullible self. He doesn't understand how a comet that didn't hit the Sphinx failed to damage the Sphinx.

Schoch is dogmatic that there was no Younger Dryas impact event. It was all a solar outburst in his view. He does what his critics do, he comes down hard on what is still an open debate. Also calls his critics "nasty". Like Wolter he's a rebel. "The geologists have always agreed with me." Say what now? He and Wolter also share the Templar High Voice Gene.

Burned bedrock caused by solar plasma bursts...

I don't have Jason's patience. Punching out.

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Kent, are you the
1/13/2020 07:41:51 pm

patron saint of waitress now and their main spokesman, as well as defender of stupid ideas? I was a waitress in college and had many customers that I considered friends. I didn't "live" for those conversations, but I certainly enjoyed them.

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SouthCoast
1/13/2020 09:55:52 pm

No doubt he can also call spirits from the vasty deep.

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Kent
1/14/2020 12:34:52 am

Spirits (and imaginary waitresses) are Doc Rock's thing. I'm strictly beer wine and what the kids call "Molly". Turns out it's illegal now, with the inevitable decline in quality.

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LaCinda
1/14/2020 03:16:53 pm

Kent is the type of person that would take a dump on the sidewalk while screaming obscenities at someone for spitting in the street. Appears jealous of someone that can successfully socialize with the opposite sex,

Kent
1/14/2020 04:19:13 pm

In what universe does posting on the internet about showing possibly non-imaginary waitresses internet posts that you claim are yours count as "successfully socializ[ing] with the opposite sex"?

Kent, in every universe,
1/15/2020 08:10:45 am

Including the multiverse, is the ability to have a civil conversation "successfully socializing."

The phrase "in what universe" is frequently used by Sheldon in "The Big Theory," who is the most socially unadaptable character in TV.

Interesting choice.

AmericanNegro sheldon
1/15/2020 09:36:27 am

Sheldon has problems with interpersonal relations, especially with women. Sheldon struggles with the abstract unless it directly relates to his own narrow field of interest. Sheldon has a very narrow worldview. Sheldon is prone to Tourette's-like outbursts. Sound familiar?

At what point does kentamericannegro finally proclaim, "I am Sheldon!!!" Or maybe it should be "I am Greta Thunberg!!" He can really go either way with this.

Kal
1/14/2020 12:49:02 am

"You can't handle the truth!" Nicholson in that movie.

Anyway, I doubt most of these zany UFO enthusiasts actually believe their own bunk can be made into golden tablets, or processed into special chips inserted into brains.

If an alien came to Earth, it would wonder what the heck was with all these people thinking it was from ancient Egypt or from Turkey, or some other place where ruins are.

Disappointed with humanity as a tribla bunch of immature yokels, the alien would report to his leader that humans aren't worth visiting, and they would disappear for a thousand years.

And it would all be the fault of these people like Stooch and his ilk.

Thanks a lot, conspirators. You are ruining first contact for the rest of us.

This message brought to you be Scooby snacks, red herrings, and jump scares, and of course...the handy dandy rectal probe. Just don't ask them where its been.

What's also fairly amusing is the comments, whereas most of the people commenting in this blog are a handful of people, using many addresses, and thiking they're now famous for posting on this blog.

I can see why Jason Colavito doesn't bother deleting most of the comments, as they likely amuse him also.

First contact will not come to the elites or to the fringe. It will be more like South Park, and they will come and talk to our cattle, and then leave.

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IF AN ALIEN COMES TO EARTH
1/14/2020 08:33:10 am

IF AN ALIEN COMES TO EARTH - chances are he will be humanoid, breathe exactly the same oxygen and speak perfect English. It should also be mentioned that if he travelled in a craft faster than the speed of light it would not have crashed into any asteroids, meteorites, planets, comets or stars because the aliens would have invented something miraculous that would have avoided that from happening.

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An Anonymous Nerd
1/15/2020 09:14:12 pm

The Fringe is a great business model these days. Lots of money there. Sad, but true.

Regarding the age of the Sphinx: Covering up that it's the Sphinx is actually a bad idea because the context is important. When you look at without knowing what it is you might think of one kind of erosion and forget that there's an alternative explanation that fits the known history AND the physical evidence. *shrugs*

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Ralphie boy
1/26/2020 12:55:38 am

Aside to KAL , jason doesnt delete the comments because he has written most of them in an effort to create drama, darling, drama drama drama.

Jason- such sour grapes. Robert is off looking at mythic sites at dawn ( and getting paid for it) and you are waiting for a box to return your funky PC.

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