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Giorgio Tsoukalos Shocks the Philippines by Saying Ancient Humans Developed the Banaue Rice Terraces with No Alien Help

8/15/2018

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​At the beginning of August, the Institute for Noetic Sciences in Petaluma, California hosted the 61st Annual Convention of the Parapsychological Association, and one of the featured speakers was Jacques Vallée, who delivered a speech about the role of psychical research in the creation of the internet. Vallée, whose day job was in computer science for most of his life, generously credited himself with creating much of the architecture of the modern internet. He alleged that the research he and Hal Puthoff and others in their group worked on at the Stanford Research Institute in developing protocols for psychics to “locate” information they’ve never seen paralleled how computers learned to access non-local information stored elsewhere—the basic architecture of the internet. Frankly, I’d want to see a bit of proof before believing that.
​More important, however, was Vallée’s announcement that he is planning to retire from ufology. “I want to go out to do something else,” he said, blasting ufology as “too superficial” to truly grasp the depths of the “problem” of UFOs. By this, he apparently means that ufologists have been too slow to grasp his longstanding hypothesis (first proposed in the 1970s) that flying saucers are really psychic projections akin to poltergeists from another dimension and can only be understood through psychical rather than physical research. Basically, if I may summarize perhaps too much, he is another spiritual quester looking for something beyond the material. This makes it all the stranger that he has decided to leave ufology for greener pastures only months after dumping on us weird claims about extraterrestrial metals that were alleged to have fallen off flying saucers—the exact opposite of his usual claim that UFOs are not nuts and bolts spaceships.
 
Meanwhile, this past weekend the History Channel’s Asia branch threw Asia’s version of Alien Con, known as History Con after the network’s name. It’s an annual event in the Philippines, and most years the stars of Ancient Aliens are the featured attraction. This year was no different, and Giorgio Tsoukalos was again the star of the convention. As part of the promotional efforts for the convention, Tsoukalos delivered a Facebook Live session on History Channel Asia’s page and conducted interviews with Philippine media. But middle age must be starting to mellow Tsoukalos, who declined an opportunity to claim alien intervention in the archipelago.
 
PhilStar.com, a Philippine news outlet, asked Tsoukalos if the Banaue Rice Terraces, an ancient stepped set of terraces used for the growing of rice, were the work of space aliens. It was evident that the outlet fully expected the Ancient Aliens front man to agree. He did not. “You don’t need extraterrestrial technology to do this. In my opinion, there is nothing extraterrestrial about this. It’s not really difficult to do. This takes a lot of time and a lot of people but definitely possible,” Tsoukalos said.
 
What is the world coming to?
 
But lest you think that Tsoukalos is suddenly going sane now that he’s north of forty, he followed up the question by announcing that he believes the Maranao epic known as the Indarapatra contains evidence of space alien technology because it refers to various magical events, such as a gong that made pregnant women go into labor and a magic cloth that granted wishes. He had the gall to cite Arthur C. Clarke to justify his belief that mythological magic is really alien tech: “‘Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable for magic.’ Any other type of magic is not real magic; it’s a trick, it’s technology,” he said. It’s interesting, to a degree, that Clarke’s efforts to explain why it is so hard to conceptualize technology and predict its development has retroactively become a justification for back-forming imagined alien technologies from fictitious acts of magic. I suppose it’s to be expected; after all, Clarke’s maxim, written in 1973, is simply a pithier version of a claim Charles Fort first made in 1932, referring to “a performance that may some day be considered understandable, but that, in these primitive times, so transcends what is said to be the known that it is what I mean by magic.”
 
It is perhaps also testament to the presumed education and understanding of ancient astronaut believers that Tsoukalos felt the need to remind the PhilStar audience that magic isn’t real and that David Copperfield and other stage magicians do not have real paranormal powers. “They don’t actually have divine or spiritual powers. They know how to trick people, they know how to create illusion and that is done with the help of technology,” he said.
 
This was a big week for Tsoukalos. In addition to headlining Alien Con, he also just finished a five-day stint as a McDonald’s spokesman. From August 10-14, Tsoukalos appeared in McDonald’s advertisements directing consumers of fast food to a treasure hunt of sorts to win cash and prizes. Tsoukalos appeared in online videos and made social media postings to promote the giveaway. In turn, McDonald’s promoted Tsoukalos’s Twitter handle and apparently assumed that their customers would understand what an “ancient astronaut theorist” is. Reader, I’ve been to McDonalds, and I’m not sure that was a safe assumption. 
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Giorgio Tsoukalos in a recent McDonald's promotional video.
​I have to say that while it was depressing to see a second fast food chain hire Tsoukalos—he previously appeared in a Taco Bell Super Bowl commercial—frankly, they deserve each other. Tsoukalos is to history what McDonald’s is to dining, the overly processed, fatty simulacrum of the real thing, cheapened for a mass audience that either doesn’t want, doesn’t know, or can’t afford better.
 
The good news, however, is that the ad didn’t gain a lot of traction. A Google search find virtually no discussion of the campaign beyond a Twitter thread blasting the fast food giant for endorsing pseudoscience. 
55 Comments
Machala
8/15/2018 11:15:04 am

Giorgio is just proving what I've always believed. McDonalds and Taco Bell are serving products created by extraterrestrials, from other-worldly materials, not earthly "food".

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V
8/15/2018 11:50:01 am

Believe me, McD's and Taco Smell foods are NOT out of this world--!

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Jim
8/15/2018 04:45:01 pm

McDonalds serves pseudo food.

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AMERICANEGRO
8/15/2018 08:37:34 pm

Go ahead and attack McDonald’s all you want, but it happens to be the only place in my neighborhood with a free reliable wireless Internet connection. I couldn’t survive without it!

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Joe Scales
8/15/2018 09:20:05 pm

Also a nice place for a pee break while on a road trip.

V
8/15/2018 09:57:29 pm

Hey, I eat there regularly--but it's not really heavenly food. Or, in some cases, food.

Americanegro
8/15/2018 10:52:41 pm

Again, not me but a cyber-bully.

GodricGlas
8/15/2018 11:06:32 pm

Right?

Maybe this game is more fun than I thought.

I didn’t think that was you.

This is starting to get authenticity P.K. Dick.

And that’s a good thing, as far as I am concerned.

Thanks, Jason!

GodricGlas
8/15/2018 11:09:03 pm

I meant, “authentically”.

My bad.

Albert
8/15/2018 11:44:21 am

_A Google search find virtually no discussion of the campaign beyond a Twitter thread blasting the fast food giant for endorsing pseudoscience._

Who exactly has given certain people call something pseudoscience considering that “real science” does not have a clue about most fundamental questions?

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Doc Rock
8/15/2018 12:49:43 pm

Real science does a pretty good job of explaining why so many pseudoscience explanations are just that, pseudoscience.

If you want a good example of this, then watch a season or two of Ancient Aliens (or other such nonsense), then watch the video "Ancient Aliens De-Bunked."

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Albert
8/15/2018 01:04:21 pm

I find this “debunking” very unconvincing. On par with claims that big Giza pyramid was built using ropes and pulleys to be Khufu’s tomb. This is the real really laughable pseudoscience.

Doc Rock
8/15/2018 01:11:39 pm

I think that it is a safe bet that at any given point about ten percent of the population is equally unconvinced.

An Anonymous Nerd
8/15/2018 08:15:53 pm

[I find this “debunking” very unconvincing. On par with claims that big Giza pyramid was built using ropes and pulleys to be Khufu’s tomb. This is the real really laughable pseudoscience. ]

Elsewhere I have provided you, or another poster who's remarkably like you!, with books to read and links to look at to explain the considerable amount we know about the Egyptian Pyramids and how they were built. It's only "laughable" in the sense that anything can be "laughable" if you want to laugh at it.

And that much I can't help.

-An Anonymous Nerd

V
8/15/2018 10:10:16 pm

[I find this “debunking” very unconvincing. On par with claims that big Giza pyramid was built using ropes and pulleys to be Khufu’s tomb. This is the real really laughable pseudoscience. ]

Well, Albert, this actually just kind of goes to show that you are rather ignorant of machines, since we build bigger and more spindly things today with ropes and pulleys, too. The "six basic machines" (lever, pulley, wheel and axle, inclined plane, wedge, and screw) are called that for a reason--because all machines that do work are in fact various combinations of those basic machines. A crane is literally a block and tackle pulley system on stiff arm mounted on an axle. The pistons in the engine that drives it are pulleys, and the belts that direct it are wheels on axles.

Unfortunately, you are doing what many people do--"I personally can't do it, so nobody can." Well, I can't run--physically, at all, since I have a deformity in my feet--but that certainly doesn't mean Usain Bolt can't do 27.8 mph in a dead sprint. Learn a little more about physics and you will begin to understand why your current attitude is what is laughable.

Albert
8/16/2018 05:52:49 am

_Elsewhere I have provided you, or another poster who's remarkably like you!, with books to read and links to look at to explain the considerable amount we know about the Egyptian Pyramids and how they were built._

Not going to waste my time studying laughable pseudoscience.

An Over-Educated Grunt
8/16/2018 07:37:27 am

To quote one of the greatest thinkers of our or any age, "fucking magnets, how do they work?"

Doc Rock
8/16/2018 12:08:24 pm

V.,

Indeed. If someone has some basic engineering technology and the labor of thousands of people devoted to a specific task over a long period of time then you get....well, all sorts of big piles of rock and dirt all over the world that some want to attribute to aliens.

An Anonymous Nerd
8/16/2018 07:33:58 pm

[Not going to waste my time studying laughable pseudoscience.]

The evidence is there, and holds up to skeptical scrutiny. The various fringe/alternative explanations have no specific evidence (a lot of scoffing, made-up data, and things better explained elsewhere), and do not hold up to skeptical scrutiny.

As complex as the details get, in broad terms it really is as simple as that.

What I can't do though is convince you, using evidence, to discard things that are an article of some kind of faith for you.

-An Anonymous Nerd

V
8/16/2018 10:29:34 pm

Doc Rock, a lot less people than you might assume, honestly. Not that there wouldn't need to be a large labor force to sustain a lot of the builds--and were--but if you understand your tools well, you can do things a lot of people who don't know the tools say can't be done. I personally walked a 2-ton block of steel 40 feet across the front of my house, 20 feet along the side, and another 15-20 feet to the back door where it needed to go, across uneven terrain, using two rocks and a rope, in about...fifteen minutes, maybe? I didn't have to LIFT the weight at all, just tilt it on a fulcrum, put down a new fulcrum, and swap. Rinse and repeat. I can easily see a project like Stonehenge taking a force of less than 100 people total, given the time frame we know it was built over, because adding extra people isn't really going to make that process much faster. And the prevalence of "walking stones" myths in certain areas adds a boost to the idea that the dual pivot method was used, given that it does literally look like a big mass doing a very slow stiff-legged walk. Obvs, mythology is in no way definitive, since some of those stories are equally obviously "natural formations looking vaguely like people," but still.

Doc Rock
8/17/2018 09:08:54 pm

V,

I was thinking in terms of something like the bigger pyramids. If you factor in everyone: those cutting the blocks offsite, those transporting them, those doing final shaping, those lifting and fitting stuff in place, supervisors, security, bureaucrats overseeing logistics and supply, those providing and transporting supplies, etc. etc. you are looking at a lot of folks involved from the initial planning to the final touches.

But I agree that a lot of other projects that some would like to attribute to aliens probably didn't actually require a whole lot more people and technology than that involved in a circa-1850 barn raising in the Midwest

Machala
8/15/2018 01:22:42 pm

And what pray tell, Albert are the "fundamental questions" that science doesn't have a clue about ?

Not that it matters, because in less than 100 years, you will in either in a box, up in smoke, in a vault or in the ground, and your friends will grieve for 5 minutes....then go to Denny's !

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Albert
8/15/2018 01:50:22 pm

For example there it at least some indication that we each have a soul that survives physical death that can go to Denny’s with friends and life really is eternal. Theory that science is just beginning to explore.

Machala
8/15/2018 02:51:10 pm

I would be interested to see what "hard" scientific evidence there is concerning an "immortal soul". That sort of thought is more akin to religious philosophy or the kind of thinking promoted by Vallée, Puthoff, Wolter, et.al.
I'm afraid I'm more in tune with Marc Anthony on this:
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;

Peter B
8/15/2018 06:14:59 pm

Ah, Denny's! Where you can struggle to enjoy the world's worst Eggs Benedict. I have had better breakfasts in Kenya. And with champagne.

Americanegro
8/15/2018 06:25:50 pm

You racistly suggest that bad breakfast is the expected norm in Kenya.

PETER B
8/15/2018 08:23:02 pm

I apologize Mr. Negro, that was a typo on my part. I meant to refer to the city of Kenyon, Minnesota (where one would indeed expect to be served a subpar breakfast) and not the country of Kenya which is of course known for having excellent cuisine.

Peter B
8/15/2018 09:24:53 pm

Well, that's interesting. There seems to be a fashion for impersonating others in these comments. I (the actual, original Peter B) did not mean Kenyon anywhere, but Kenya. And if anyone misunderstood my my joke about Denny's, which wasn't that subtle and certainly wasn't racist, tough tittie.

Americanegro
8/15/2018 10:56:14 pm

You racistly suggested that bad breakfast is the expected norm in Kenya. Tough tittie, as you say.

PETER B
8/15/2018 11:28:46 pm

One might argue that it’s racist to suggest that the people of Kenya are so weak minded and overly sensitive that they’re unable to accept some constructive criticism regarding the quality of their breakfasts. The people of my hometown of Kenyon, Minnesota certainly wouldn’t react in that manner!

Albert
8/16/2018 05:50:53 am

_I would be interested to see what "hard" scientific evidence there is concerning an "immortal soul"._

There is no “hard” evidence yet because as I wrote science is just beginning to understand and consider the possibility of an immortal soul.

V
8/16/2018 10:36:08 pm

...Albert, honey, science started investigating the existence of a soul in the early 1800s. The famous "21 grams" experiment was published in 1907. It's been more than 100 years. That's not "just beginning." I neither know nor care about "immortal souls," but I think if we were going to EVER find scientific proof of the soul, we should have had at least some kind of HINT by now, instead of a deeply flawed experiment that held a metric shitton of confirmation bias, based on a flawed premise in the first place.

ALBERT
8/17/2018 02:52:44 am

V, honey. You are misinformed. One US university whose name I now cannot remember for example has studied hundreds if not thousands of cases of children remembering their former lives. Of course there is a whole crowd of "debunkers" attacking these studies. This is why as Thomas Kuhn wrote in his "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" that old guard often literally has to die so that new knowledge can emerge.

Americanegro
8/17/2018 06:24:09 pm

Albert, smoochie, that was Ian Stevenson from the University of Virginia School of Medicine. Your lack of facts certainly makes a compelling argument, but listen up sugartits, reincarnation (if it exists) doesn't require or imply a "soul".

Joe W
8/20/2018 08:22:02 am

A.N., You are 100% right. The best example is Buddhism, where the received doctrine states that rebirth in a new body transfers karma as the fleeting confluence of the 5-senses or passions into the flame of desire for existence.

For Buddhists, only our craving for existence actually survives death and is reborn according to Buddhist metaphysics, while the soul itself is merely an illusion created by the desire to exist.

Ian Stevenson is quite clear on the soul concept (or lack thereof) distinguishing the common Hindu vs. Buddhist concepts of Eschatology, and argued that certain Native American rebirth concepts on the coast of Alaska were more like the Buddhist version than the Hindu version (which DOES posit an immortal soul)

Stevenson's work does not depend on either model being "correct".

Americanegro
8/20/2018 02:25:17 pm

As I understand it the Buddhists (you know you set off the alarm, right?) say that what survives or moves from life to life is consciousness which functions conventionally (because, duh!) but is ultimately unfindable under analysis. Different schools have different presentations of how that unfindability is experienced. And here's the beauty part: they say the substantial cause of consciousness is a previous moment of consciousness.

It's been ages since I read Stevenson's book and I don't really remember it so thank you for filling in those details.

An Anonymous Nerd
8/15/2018 08:14:00 pm

[Who exactly has given certain people call something pseudoscience considering that “real science” does not have a clue about most fundamental questions?]

What an odd question. Pesudoscience means....Well let's ask Merriam-Webster.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pseudoscience

A little more specifically than that, most practices the term usually is used to refer to are designed to look like science but lack the usual stuff of science. You know, like evidence, rigorous examination, seeking naturalistic explanation, employing experiments or any other number of rigorous and appropriate methods....Stuff like that.

Not sure what you mean by "most fundamental questions" but science is well-equipped to answer empirical questions about our universe and how it works. You know, the kinds of questions it tries to answer! And has provided many such, demonstrably correct answers. Please remember also that there's a difference between answers science can't find because they are outside of its purview, and questions it can't answer that are within its purview but it hasn't figured out how yet!

-An Anonymous Nerd

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'Mericanegro
8/15/2018 02:16:28 pm

I am sorry to see how many insults are within these comments now. But this is no insult, but a correction.

"I suppose it’s to be expected; after all, Clarke’s maxim, written in 1973..." Written in 1973 but published in 1962. Go figure.

"Clarke’s efforts to explain why it is so hard to conceptualize technology and predict its development" Precisely what Clarke did, both explaining why it's so hard and actually predicting, in his 1962 collection, Profiles of the Future, with a perhaps surprising number of "hits".

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Jason Colavito link
8/15/2018 03:11:20 pm

Clarke's first two laws were published in the 1960s, but the third law, the one quoted here, first appeared in 1973, according to standard sources. If you know of its earlier publication, please provide the citation so I can correct.

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‘MERICANEGRO
8/15/2018 05:47:27 pm

Never mind, I was wrong as usual.

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Americanegro
8/15/2018 06:28:26 pm

Ah! More cyber-bullying! I posted a retraction but Jason deleted it.

Joe Scales
8/15/2018 09:29:58 pm

I already miss the zany stuff getting wiped here. My vote is to go back to the wild west platform.

An Anonymous Nerd
8/18/2018 07:50:58 pm

[I already miss the zany stuff getting wiped here. My vote is to go back to the wild west platform. ]

The problem with the "wild west" of course is that it favors the one with the biggest guns over all other considerations.

But given the Right's ongoing and undisguised adherence to Social Darwinism, I guess that's the point. Sooner or later the quieter, more-reasonable, more fact-based voices get drowned out.

Indeed it's already happening what with the Russian and domestic Right wing trolls. Including but not limited to Alex Jones.

-An Anonymous Nerd

'mericanegro
8/15/2018 05:38:15 pm

Is there a list of pop stars we ARE allowed to mention?

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/15/2018 08:26:00 pm

Those rice terraces are actually pretty impressive.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Titus pullo
8/15/2018 09:03:45 pm

Mcds has the best fries! Better than In and Out and the rest. Dont go hating on the only fast food place in old Fairport NY when i gree up. Spent many sat nights hanging out at one

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Joe Scales
8/15/2018 09:24:10 pm

Always thought In and Out was overrated. Gimme Pollo Loco any day.

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GodricGlas
8/15/2018 09:32:39 pm

You’d take some burned-up-‘ol chicken, beans that are a fart-bomb, and indigestible rice over a double-double!?!

Have you heard of Juan Pollo?

You need a chicken-change.

Hyphens!

Joe Scales
8/15/2018 09:59:23 pm

That would be fire-grilled chicken.

GodricGlas
8/15/2018 10:05:36 pm

Joe-oe!!?

Just go to Juan Pollo next time.

K?

You’ll thank me later.

Joe Scales
8/15/2018 10:18:55 pm

Next time Godric, for sure.

GodricGlas
8/15/2018 09:26:22 pm

Stop it.

There’s nothing better than Inn-N-Out.

Don’t get me started.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
8/16/2018 09:12:33 pm

Well, you're right there. Nothing IS better than In-N-Out.

Jim
8/15/2018 09:30:35 pm

Ya, but Denny’s got soul !

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GodricGlas
8/15/2018 09:37:33 pm

Yeah, but Norm’s stole it by some sort of weird paranormal espionage. Like they did with Sambo’s, while no one was looking.

They infuse their food with a simulacrum of its essence.

God damn you Norm’s


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