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Graham Hancock Blasts Academia for Linear View of Progress, Claims Ancients Had Superior Spirituality

8/16/2016

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RT, formerly known as Russia Today, is a Kremlin-funded propaganda channel that beams Russian president Vladimir Putin’s favored views into countries around the world. Recently, its program Going Underground had Graham Hancock on to discuss an “academic coup” going on at Göbekli Tepe in Turkey. Host Afshin Rattansi got things off to a bad start by falsely informing viewers that academic elites claim that the culture responsible for the ancient Turkish temple site, which dates back to around 9000 BCE or so, “emerged fully formed, as if by magic.”
Since the TED organization slapped a warning on Hancock’s recent talk, Hancock has become more aggressive about his anger at what he perceives to be a dogmatic elite, claiming (again, falsely) that “we’ve been spun a narrative” for “hundreds of years about the origins of human civilization,” referring back to Lewis Henry Morgan’s 1877 proposal of the linear development of civilization as though it were the current model—a “fantasy” as Hancock calls it. He says that his fellow fringe historians are “troubled” because academic elites have “fed” them a “story” about history, largely through teaching it in schools and universities.
 
It always comes down to hating having had to do homework in high school, doesn’t it? I’m sure in the United Kingdom there is more history taught than in America, but here one might be lucky to get more than a lesson or two about ancient history in high school, since American textbooks tend to assume that history began with the Pilgrims and ended with Ronald Reagan. (Many world history courses have been remade as global studies, with a corresponding reduction of history.)
 
Hancock did not explain who is behind what he alleges to be a global effort to rewrite history, or how such a global enterprise could function in a multipolar, decentralized world.
 
“It seems to be a story that is designed to convince us that we’re the point of it all,” Hancock said, “that the whole human project has been about us, and I think that there is a tremendous arrogance in that.” Hancock says that it is wrong for modern 21st century humans to view history as the events leading up to our own society because “there may have been much greater things achieved in the past.” Those superior things, he said, are “spiritual” rather than “material.”
 
So Hancock is now a Lovecraftian?
 
I am astonished that Hancock is still railing against a view of progress from the Victorian era, one that anthropologists debunked before the end of the nineteenth century. One need only look at the collapse of the Roman Empire or the Maya civilization to recognize that civilization does not move in linear fashion toward ever-greater sophistication and development.
 
But did you notice the rhetorical sleight of hand Hancock used? By defining the “lost civilization” as merely “spiritual” in its sophistication he has wiped away the need to look for physical evidence of its existence. He can claim various stones or carvings belong to them, but their physical presence is no longer essential since their real triumph is entirely imaginary.
 
Finally, I have a brief notice: Many of you will likely have seen a video that a minor fringe history figure posted to his History Heretic website and YouTube yesterday, which used scatological language to allege that a figure composed of a defaced photograph of me and a juvenile pun on my name would be “exposed” as part of a conspiracy to suppress history during a broadcast later this week. I am aware of the hilarious video, and I thank all of the alert readers who brought it to my attention. I’d like to request, however, that readers refrain from providing the maker of the video with grist for his next video. 
35 Comments
Templar Secrets
8/16/2016 10:51:23 am

It's a fact that the ancients were closer to the divine, since they were the inventors and creators of religion. Nothing spectacular about that. It's basic common sense.

Today's religions are a surrogate and a counterfeit of the real thing.

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Slurm
8/16/2016 04:54:23 pm

Oh, go find a time machine.

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Templar Secrets
8/17/2016 08:26:51 am

Oh, go to a criticism-free zone

Slurm
8/17/2016 11:40:35 am

Oh GIGO, different name, same classic non-sequitor twaddle.

Christine Erikson link
8/21/2016 04:11:34 pm

they invented false religions, which worshippd the creation rather than the Creator cultivated deceiving spirit contacts (aka demons) and practiced human sacrifice.

war is always the jumpstarter for technology so since they technically developed you can be sure they were warlike. and they are known to have engaged in wars whether of conquest or of defense against equally "spiritually developed" people.

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Mandalore
8/16/2016 11:48:29 am

Remember when gods were gods, and sacrificing goats cleansed the uncleanliness of a woman's menstrual cycle? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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Templar Secrets
8/16/2016 03:07:27 pm

Remember when St Augustine said that a woman sinned every time she menstruated.

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Bob Jase
8/17/2016 02:42:51 pm

I was lucky enough to meet Charles Welch, the actor who succeeded Parker Fennelly, he was a good guy whom I remember.

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Denise
8/16/2016 12:09:11 pm

Hello....History is the study of human past...its that simple.

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Templar Secrets
8/16/2016 03:08:33 pm

History is bunk - there's a lot to what Henry Ford said.

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Only Me
8/16/2016 01:29:10 pm

Hancock doesn't know what history is. Unsurprising. His arguments are against obsolete historical models. Amusing. If his star is fading, I consider it poetic justice.

As for the video, I'll only say this: it's permeated with desperation for attention and will most likely appeal only to the likes of those who already feel Jason has "wronged" them in some way.

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Rotty Scoberts
8/16/2016 06:48:38 pm

The use of Jason's photo however is grounds for having the video removed by YouTube. Jason I assume owns the photo, and as he did not give permission to that slackjawed knuckledragger to use it, it violates YouTubes rules.

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Kal
8/16/2016 01:42:01 pm

Attention fringe fake historians, you do not have special knowledge. Get over it. Ancient people were smart, and they figured stuff out. Just because you fringies don't understand it, doesn't mean it's aliens.

Golbe Tepe like many sites is just a ruin of an old stone quarrying place made by ancient humans. It is mysterious, but perfectly explainable, as there are other sites. Just because it's remote now, does not mean it was remote when they built it. And so what if it is? That doesn't mean aliens made it. Also those cement stones are not that big. I've seen the actual stones with a guy next to them. They're not huge. It was a video, but still. The arch is huge, but you can see how they made it, over time, using human hands and tools. It has layers, bricks on top of them.

As for that hate video, I did not see it, but why are these fringies after you? It's not like you're the only one making contrary arguments. I suppose now they're going to claim that too is somehow conjured by other skeptics.

I know why they'd be obsessed because they are generally, but this site is hardly an impact on their blog shows or ratings. They destroy their own arguments plenty without any help from skeptics.

Mostly you do ancient aliens and mysteries and have a firm graps of making opinionated contrary arguments to fake history. This is an editorial blog. Nothing wrong with that.

Well there is no winning with these people.

The video you describe would be considered hate speech and cyber bullying, and if it is on youtube you can flag it for defamation and it will be removed.





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flip
8/16/2016 04:15:52 pm

Even as a non-American I know that the video could not be considered anything close to hate speech, cyberbullying or defamation. From the sounds of it, it would clearly fall under satire, criticism and the usual free speech standards. Besides, flagging it just turns the creators into martyrs and prove their point about suppressing dissent from maibstream points of view.

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V
8/16/2016 11:36:25 pm

Could potentially be cyber-bullying. I didn't watch the video and have no intention of doing so, but "satire and criticism" has been used to cover an awful lot of bullying over time. Problem is that I'm not sure "cyber-bullying" is actually ILLEGAL, and its definition gets kinda super-vague.

flip
8/17/2016 02:03:52 am

I think cyberbullying would depend on what state you'd be in, if I remember right from various Popehat posts*. I do agree that claims of criticism can and are used as a shield for actual bullying, my guess is that this video doesn't do that. Particularly as the intended target (Jason) doesn't seem all that bothered by it. Law enforcement might be interested if it came with a threat or incitement of violence, but a defaced photo and ad hominem? Annoying, upsetting but hardly something that qualifies as hate speech. Plus, there's that whole "disagreement in the marketplace of ideas" thing where both can say they are discussing and debating the merits of scientific concepts.

* Popehat talks a lot about context and audience understanding. That is, who the message is for must be taken into account. The readers of The Onion know it's satire, so suing for libel isn't going to work because judges would take into account the context that the site is known for satire and can't be mistaken for actual news/defamation. The audience for this video would know that this is just hyperbole, which is not something you can sue over. I really doubt the idea that it would even remotely meet standards required for defamation, let alone the other stuff.

If Jason gets SWATTed or is sent death threats, then I'd worry. - Compare to Trump's remarks over the Second Amendment stuff. Even that doesn't rise to imminent threat standards.

Templar Secrets
8/17/2016 05:51:45 am

>>>Well there is no winning with these people<<<

The 1970s produced a good deal of genuine conclusive debunking,

The topic of Life After Death, without providing a smudging of evidence, produces a constant stream of books per year, mainly by academics.

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Sticker
8/20/2016 08:50:48 am

Gobekli Tepe isn't a stone quarry ...

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An Over-Educated Grunt
8/16/2016 02:29:36 pm

I think it's hilarious that Graham Hancock is literally crying out for that old-time religion but would never recognize that he's calling on a dressed-up version of revivalism that dates back at least as far as Moses.

And I won't encourage the history heretic but...

B. Jacob Bulltwaddle once exposed a conspiracy of Arby's cooks to short him by a tenth of an ounce of roast beef.

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Templar Secrets
8/16/2016 03:10:21 pm

You're another conspiracy theorist - discounting the role Freemasonry had in establishing democracies and overthrowing kingdoms.

If you're American, you don't know anything about your country.,

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An Over-Educated Grunt
8/16/2016 03:17:04 pm

That's nice sweetheart. Be sure to wipe and pull up your pants when you're done talking.

Clete
8/16/2016 04:08:42 pm

The poster "Templar Secrets" appears to be "Time Machine" using another sign on name. Needs to be ignored.

Only Me
8/16/2016 04:13:56 pm

I'm just going to point something out. You said, "discounting the role of Freemasonry had in establishing democracies and overthrowing kingdoms."

However, in your reply to Denise above, you said, "History is bunk - there's a lot to what Henry Ford said." On one hand you agree history is bunk, on the other you want to harp on the impact Freemasonry had on that same history.

Pick a position and defend it. Either history, including Freemasonry's role, is bunk, or it isn't. It can't be both.

Templar Secrets
8/17/2016 05:38:03 am

Grunt is giving bullshit again and all of that person's "historical lectures" were not "history" but dislike of Freemasonry, Nothing else.

Grunt believes that Freemasonry is gibberish. Well, Christianity is gibberish. And Western Civilization is built on that gibberish.

The gibberish of Christianity counts.
The gibberish of Freemasonry does not count,
Ergo: Freemasonry played no part in history.

Grunt cannot demonstrate that when there exists evidence to the contrary. That evidence exposes all that person's messages about Freemasonry to be biased dislike of Freemasonry and that person's messages about history to be worthless.

Templar Secrets
8/17/2016 05:42:35 am

Brooke Allen, Moral Minority: Our Skeptical Founding Fathers (Ivan R. Dee, 2006)

https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Minority-Skeptical-Founding-Fathers/dp/1566636752/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1471426849&sr=1-1&keywords=our+skeptical+founding+fathers

Templar Secrets
8/17/2016 06:29:02 am

Kevin M. Kruse, One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America (Basic Books, 2016)

https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate/dp/0465097413/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1471429604&sr=1-1

An Over-Educated Grunt
8/17/2016 04:46:18 pm

You really don't get it, do you? I'm writing from a phone so I cannot effectively critique your exceptionally shallow reading of history in depth but the important point is this...

A simple-minded man looks for simple explanations. Drugs as the root cause of civilization, or Masons being the root of modern society, are simple explanations. You're dull. You're uninteresting. You show no signs of having read your opponent's research. You don't touch the logical gaps in your argument or address counter-points. You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.

Screaming Eagle
8/16/2016 08:18:32 pm

I'm in my 40's but I unashamedly giggled at B. J. Bulltwaddle. Well done, sir.

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Only Me
8/17/2016 12:23:01 pm

I'm sure you think that sounds reasonable, but, you basically ranted about an unrelated subject. There is nothing in or about this blog post that concerns Freemasonry; it's specifically about Graham Hancock.

Grunt's comment was in regards to Hancock, with a little nod towards another fringe "historian". That means your reply was nothing more than a personal attack and you're trying to justify it.

You didn't actually acknowledge my earlier point, either.

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Shane Sullivan
8/16/2016 02:59:05 pm

I seem to recall some racist mystic or another who suggested the reason there was no archeological evidence of a globe-spanning golden age civilization was that it existed on a purely spiritual-immaterial plane. I don't remember who it was, but I wanna say... Evola?

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Rotty Scoberts
8/16/2016 06:50:52 pm

That sounds like ol' Julius.

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orang
8/16/2016 04:49:28 pm

You're right about RT being a propaganda channel. It is not even subtle about their obvious negative spin about the west. When they have a documentary about something within Russia, those are ok, but when they have one about the USA, they always choose a negative one. Commentator Oksana Boyko (or what ever her name is) is simply a Putin apologist, and their other commentators are bad too. Thom Hartmann is good, and if had any sense he'd get off that channel because it makes him take on the taint of the rest of the channel.

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David
8/16/2016 05:00:22 pm

So Jason, is it "Fraternity of Obliteration of Origins Knowledge" or "Fraternity of Obliteration Origins Knowledge" or "Fraternity Obliteration of Origins of Knowledge"? As a head FOOK maybe you should let HP know as he seems to get it all mixed up. :)

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Scott Hamilton
8/16/2016 07:08:31 pm

It's funny that Hancock is so upset about the linear development theory of civilization, because also believes in linear development theory -- just he thinks the arrow points in the other direction. Otherwise he has literally no proof that the Atlanteans (or whatever he wants to call them) had "superior" spiritual practices -- he just assumes they did, because they were really old.

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Tom
8/17/2016 04:01:18 am

This strange idea of a spiritually enlightened elite in ancient times is an equally ancient conceit, since the histories that were forged were designed to comfort the literate to believe they were the descendants of "giants" (and would one day reascend to that noble state) rather than savages riddled with superstition and disease.
The tragedy is that too many people still cling to this conceit and too many writers find it lucrative to bolster such conceit.

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