Greg Little Claims to Have Found the First Ancient Astronaut Theorist, Except That He Didn't9/8/2014 Regular readers will remember Dr. Greg Little as the writer who is currently promoting material about prehistoric giants and before that had investigated Atlantis as channeled by Edgar Cayce. He’s also the author of articles specifically criticizing me by name for not agreeing with his preferred analysis of so-called giant skeletons. Little is back this month with a new article in Alternate Perceptions magazine (Sept. 2014) that is apparently meant to challenge my view, in The Cult of Alien Gods (2005), that H. P. Lovecraft’s fiction was instrumental in the development of the modern ancient astronaut theory. I say “apparently” because Little refers to my work only elliptically, complaining of “various bloggers and writers have attempted to credit the idea of ancient astronauts to some person who is, for one reason or another, a favorite of the writer.” From the evidence of the article, it seems clear that I am one of the writers he has in mind. Little traces the idea of ancient astronauts to various sources, and there is relatively little (if one may pardon the pun) to disagree with except where Little presumes greater familiarity with the literature than he actually has. His candidate for the inventor of ancient astronauts is Emanuel Swedenborg, a Swedish theologian and mystic. Swedenborg was not an ancient astronaut theorist; if anything, his views were a proto-Theosophy. He claimed to have met beings from the Moon, Jupiter, Venus, and other bodies from the solar system who had spiritual form but manifested in physical bodies from time to time on the earth. This is quite similar to the beings of air that supposedly manifested for Fazio Cardano centuries earlier from some other realm and gave lectures in Renaissance Italy (Gerolamo Cardano, De Subtilitate, book 19). According to Little, “While a few modern writers want to credit others for the earliest depictions of life on other planets and the idea that these beings had and were visiting and influencing earth, the fact is that Swedenborg was the first.” And yet Swedenborg was not the first to propose life on other planets, or that said life interacted with humanity. The ancient Greeks speculated on the concept, and Lucian, in his satirical True History, wrote of moon men who were fighting with the inhabitants of other planets for control of the celestial bodies. Famously, Christians placed angels among the spheres of the planets, as Dante made quite clear in his Paradiso where the various angels and spirits live on the various planets until Dante passes beyond the celestial sphere to the throne of God. Nicole Oresme (d. 1382) and Nicholas of Cusa (1401-1464) are often suggested as the first Christian extraterrestrial theorists. Among the Jews, the Talmud claimed the existence of 18,000 planets. Hasdai Crescas wrote of aliens on other worlds in 1555, and the Sefer Habrit, written around the time of Swedenborg, similarly argued for inhabited worlds. In Japan, the myth of the “Bamboo-Cutter and the Moon Child” from the tenth century CE specifically claimed that beings from the moon came down to earth and mated with humans. If you’re interested, I collected many proto-science-fiction stories of early moon people in an anthology called Moon Men back in 2012. Swedenborg offered nothing that Dante hadn’t suggested, except that Swedenborg’s spirit beings were slightly more material than the angels of nine spheres. Little next surveys late nineteenth century science fiction and notes the presence of extraterrestrials in it, as though the ground hadn’t been primed by Percival Lowell’s claim to have discovered an advanced and ancient civilization on Mars just a few years before the spate of Martian-themed fiction began. He also represents the novel Aleriel (1883) by W. S. Lach-Smyrza as the story of Venusians who influenced Christianity, though so far as I can tell the Venusian hero does not claim Venusian influence on the early Church but rather the space beings’ love of Christian values. Little further decides to overemphasize the importance of Bulwer-Lytton’s Coming Race (1871), despite it having nothing to do with aliens, because of its connection to Theosophy. Little credits the book for its influence but seems unaware that Bulwer-Lytton was building on magic underground civilization novels and nonfiction dating back at least five decades before Coming Race was ever published, including the nonfiction claims of John Cleves Symmes, Jr. and Jeremiah N. Reynolds and Capt. Adam Seaborn’s 1820 novel Symzonia. But Little isn’t done complaining about my ideas: In the 1960 book, “The Morning of the Magicians,” a book often wrongly credited as the fundamental starting point for the modern explosion of the ancient astronauts idea, the influence of Bulwer-Lytton’s book is apparent and even mentioned. “The Morning of the Magicians” was an influential book, but those knowledgeable of ufology know that the theory had already been fully presented. Little misunderstands the difference between the spark that set off a popular movement and the first proposal of an idea. Henry Ford did not invent the automobile, but it is impossible to write a history of automobiles without talking about him as popularizing them. As I wrote in Cult of Alien Gods, the ancient astronaut theory as we know it had been developed by the Theosophists (with their ships full of invading Venusians) and by Charles Fort (who wondered if earth were a prison planet with Martians for wardens), not to mention the works of H. P. Lovecraft—who is also “even mentioned” in Morning of the Magicians and who is more directly related to ancient astronauts than Bulwer-Lytton.
Little also makes much out of dentist John Ballou Newbrough’s Oahspe: A New Bible (1882), which postdates Blavatsky’s Theosophy, as given in Isis Unveiled (1876—of which Little is unaware, thinking she began with Secret Doctrine twelve years later), and is a semi-Christianized parallel to Theosophy, with angels from other worlds flying to earth in ships and influencing the prehistory and evolution of humanity for Jehovah, pretty much like the way Blavatsky had Eastern-derived spirit beings do the same thing. Newbrough’s angels are former mortals from this and other worlds who attained spiritual enlightenment, like the Ascended Masters of Theosophy. Little would like us to read the angels as ancient astronauts, which in a sense they are, at least as much as Blavatsky’s Ascended Masters, who predate these guys by several years and adapt Eastern beliefs about rising to the rank of Buddha—not unlike Greek heroes or Christian saints. But why might these angels be ancient astronauts but not those of Dante or the goddess of the Japanese Bamboo-Cutter myth? The “fire ships” used by the angels that fascinate Little are quite clearly derived from the chariots of fire found in the Bible and in ancient myths as the conveyances of God or the sun god. One of these fire-ships, the Seraphim, opens the gates of heaven and let water pour in from the ethereal seas (which is why boats were needed in the sky!), prompting the Great Flood (Osiris 5:15). Little correctly cites Morris K. Jessup as a 1950s proponent of the ancient astronaut theory, but he was not the only one, or even the first. The religious crank John Miller distributed pamphlets claiming that Bible miracles were the result of flying saucers, and George Van Tassel and George Adamski offered visions of aliens visiting earth in the past in connection with spiritual claims. Frank Edwards simply fabricated evidence for ancient astronauts in Stranger Than Science (1959). Outside the English speaking world, Soviet speculators like Matest M. Agrest offered ancient astronaut theories much closer to (and inspiration for) those used in Morning of the Magicians. The French explorer Henri Lhote claimed ancient Martian influence in the Sahara in 1958. Little’s mistake in logic is akin to saying that because there were so many different anthropoid species that could have given rise to human beings, there is no reason to pay special attention to the one that did. This can be best illustrated by looking at the events in reverse order to see why Morning of the Magicians (and thus H. P. Lovecraft) is more important for today’s ancient astronaut theory than Jessup or Swedenborg. The modern ancient astronaut theory takes its shape from the popular version of ancient astronauts made familiar to the American public via the documentary In Search of Ancient Astronauts (1973), hosted by Rod Serling. It is to this day the most watched ancient astronaut program of all time, capturing more than one-third of all American viewers watching TV that night—tens of millions of viewers. This documentary was explicitly based on Erich von Däniken’s Chariots of the Gods and was in fact an edited version of a 1970 German documentary about Chariots of the Gods. Around the same time, the National Enquirer ran a serialization of Chariots of the Gods, sending its message to its millions of readers. It remains the most-read ancient astronaut book of all time. Quite literally no other ancient astronaut book comes close in terms of direct and indirect exposure, even though it was neither the first nor the best of the lot. It happened to have great publicity due to a coincidence of timing—Serling came across it right when NBC was canceling his Night Gallery. Were it not for the network’s lack of faith in a horror series that adapted Lovecraftian material, the ancient astronaut theory might never have made it to TV in the hugely successful form it did. Von Däniken, in turn, was eventually forced to acknowledge—after many complaints—that he had borrowed much of the “evidence” in Chariots from Robert Charroux (himself influenced by Morning of the Magicians) and from Morning of the Magicians itself. This is why Morning of the Magicians is more important than Jessup, whose work has been largely forgotten. Morning was especially important because it folded into the ancient astronaut idea threads drawn from occult Nazism and from Atlantis/Lost Civilization theories, creating a matrix of ideas that provided the template for later writers. The authors, Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, were not the first to do this, but they were the most influential. In turn, they explicitly cite the weird fiction of H. P. Lovecraft and the Arthur Machen as providing the framework through which they approached, interpreted, and understood fringe ideas. Lovecraft provided the vessel that transmitted the ancient aliens of Theosophy to the authors, and his key contribution was to strip the idea of the quasi-spiritual, grounding the idea in archaeology and history and making it seem more plausible and scientific—something that mid-century ancient astronaut books tried to emulate, though Ancient Aliens does not. Again, Lovecraft was not the only person to do this—Agrest, for example, took a similar (nonfiction) approach—but Lovecraft was Pauwels’s and Bergier’s entry point. Bergier, for example, claimed (probably falsely) to have been corresponding with Lovecraft about weird fiction and ancient astronauts in the 1930s. Thus, by working backward we can see that out of many possible paths that the ancient astronaut theory could have taken, one stood out. It is because one succeeded where the others failed that I and others have placed greater weight on it than on the competing versions that failed to ignite the same public fascination.
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spookyparadigm
9/8/2014 07:45:06 am
I read it, and had some of the same critiques.
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666
9/8/2014 07:46:47 am
Amazing Stories, Fate magazine
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9/8/2014 07:58:49 am
Undoubtedly Bulwer-Lytton was important in that sense, but Little seemed to be claiming him for ancient astronauts and didn't really make much of a case for the connection, since I guess that would imply that UFOs (flying saucers) emerged from (at least) semi-fictional material that had nothing originally to do with extraterrestrials. As you've noted many times, the underground world theme sits somewhat uneasily with the space brothers/sky monsters theme even though they are frequently tied together since the underground people don't necessarily have to be aliens.
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spookyparadigm
9/8/2014 10:45:00 am
Yeah, I know. I try to be at least a little charitable at times. :)
EP
9/8/2014 08:14:33 am
I'd say Little basically paraphrased Wikipedia, but Wikipedia is a lot more thorough on the issue...
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666
9/8/2014 09:41:30 am
>>>Moundbuilders literally believed about the afterlife and space travel<<<
spookyparadigm
9/8/2014 10:51:47 am
Here I go again ....
EP
9/8/2014 01:13:49 pm
@ spookyparadigm
spookyparadigm
9/8/2014 02:16:56 pm
The Mississippian sites are a few centuries at most before European contact. I don't think that much changed when you can demonstrate continuity. This is where the idea of protohistoric should apply, though most of the time it means "white people were around, just not exactly here so far as we can prove"
EP
9/8/2014 02:46:03 pm
My question wasn't so much about continuity of beliefs as about their content. Sure we may have all kinds of good methodological reasons to work on the assumption of continuity. But continuity of *what*? We may, with luck, produce relatively complete behavioral reconstruction, but what further basis (if any) do we have for attributing belief (as opposed to largely formal ritualistic practice), literal or figurative, esoteric or exoteric?
spookyparadigm
9/8/2014 03:59:02 pm
"have for attributing belief (as opposed to largely formal ritualistic practice), literal or figurative, esoteric or exoteric?"
EP
9/8/2014 04:05:10 pm
It sounds like you share my skepticism, for broadly similar reasons. Needless to say, I approve! :)
spookyparadigm
9/8/2014 04:50:45 pm
More or less what I already said. Action and agency, rather than structure or function or even more nebulous concerns.
666
9/8/2014 08:05:23 am
Whirling Wheels PDF download
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Greg Little
9/8/2014 10:21:22 am
Thanks for reviewing the article, although it isn't aimed at your primary audience. I have just a few comments. All of the things I wrote come mainly from my own books (1984; 1990; 1994) and the 1979 Encyclopedia of UFOs. Wiki is considered an unreliable source for academics and scholars, although it is a good place to find released photos. I agree that I probably think I know more than I actually do. It's probably a true statement for many people. I am aware of Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled, which mentions Swedenborg at least 6 times--often at length. I read it back in the late '70s at the ARE library and took notes. But I'm unaware that anywhere in that dense book is anything that relates that beings from other worlds visited Earth and had an influence other than a couple of places where she mentioned Swedenborg's apparitions and said they were internal. Her later Secret Doctrine lays it out far more and is very "Oahspe-like" as well as more "Swedenborgian." I suspect the Oahspe sprung from earlier influences also, but that trail is hard to follow. And there are sections of the Oahspe that appear to have been directly "appropriated" by many people. As I mentioned in the article a lot of early philosophers talked about life elsewhere and there were many, many "novels" about it, all of them too numerous and non-influential to mention at length. I primarily mentioned the examples cited in early UFO literature and mentioned 20-some people who wrote about it before Von Daniken. It's an internet article, not a book. Tracing something like an idea backwards is connecting dots, and one has to determine what dots matter more than others and how they interconnect. You have chosen what you think is the most important dot. So too have I, and my method was to use the old UFO material. Anyone's method can be questioned. Last, as I have also mentioned numerous times, I have spent 25 weeks, mainly on boats in the Bahamas, looking at anything archaeological and potentially anything "Atlantis" as well as looking for crashed planes—33 found to date. It is more enjoyable than sitting in front of a computer screen and speculating.
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EP
9/8/2014 12:02:42 pm
Greg Little: "I'm on a boat!"
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EP
9/8/2014 03:13:37 pm
Sigh... Any person who didn't have a guilty conscience would simply explain their position (or say nothing at all, if what I said was absurd). By doing this you're just making yourself come across as defensive. Of your links (internet, not IRL, I'm sure) to Nazi propaganda...
EP
9/8/2014 03:36:22 pm
I wasn't talking about Jay. I was talking about Red Ice. And probably some other people.
666
9/8/2014 01:40:16 pm
>>>Thanks for reviewing the article, although it isn't aimed at your primary audience<<<
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EP
9/8/2014 03:10:06 pm
"I suspect the Oahspe sprung from earlier influences also, but that trail is hard to follow."
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Shane Sullivan
9/8/2014 11:24:05 am
"Famously, Christians placed angels among the spheres of the planets ..."
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sometimes they did (nim)
9/9/2014 08:31:25 am
sometimes they didn't...
EP
9/8/2014 12:00:18 pm
There is more to Theosophy than its wacky astronomy y'all! :)
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Shane Sullivan
9/8/2014 06:48:15 pm
What, like anthropology, sunken continents, and secret societies?
EP
9/8/2014 06:49:42 pm
You hush now, or I'll send the mechanical elves after you! I was really into ancient astronaut theories in early 1990s as well as so-called hidden history, ancient civilizations and UFOs. One book would lead to another and another. Early on in my quest it became apparent that Morning of the Magicians was THE book to get for a proper synthesis of all this material. They all praised it and were all influenced by it. It was a seminal publication, similar to the way Robert Temple's Sirius Mystery was over a decade later.
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EP
9/8/2014 01:22:52 pm
Terry, I'm a bit confused about the nature of the blog you linked. Could you say a little bit about it?
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Conspiracy site. Conspiracies exist; always have, always will. My site is not the topic on this post, however. I offered my own 2 cents, from a former 'believer' rather than a skeptic, because it jives with Jason's assessment. Morning of the Magicians is important to the whole edifice.
EP
9/8/2014 02:25:32 pm
I see... wasn't sure whether your website was a parody. On the one hand, doesn't seem *humorous* enough. On the other, you also link to the guy who writes about "The Satanic Roots of Feminism"...
EP
9/8/2014 02:57:39 pm
You link this guy:
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EP
9/8/2014 03:05:58 pm
I can tell you what I don't do. I don't run a website that links to literal Nazi propaganda.
EP
9/8/2014 03:16:24 pm
I may be a bit "in your face" for some people's taste, but I've been completely polite with you. You, on the other hand, instantly resorted to childish insults, ad hominems, and generally imitating Pee-wee Herman.
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BillUSA
9/8/2014 04:05:12 pm
Why don't ancient people get credit for having imaginations? Why does fiction seem to be a word reserved for written works and the arts?
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EP
9/8/2014 04:30:26 pm
Bill, you seem to suggest that denying that ancient art involved escapism somehow implies not giving ancient people credit for having imaginations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Not only is imagination involved in representing desirable possibilities (a successful hunt depicted on a cave wall, say), but a story or a visual artwork produced for educational or religious reasons requires every bit as much imagination as one that is a product of "escapism".
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EP
9/8/2014 04:31:51 pm
Bill, you seem to suggest that denying that ancient art involved escapism somehow implies not giving ancient people credit for having imaginations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Not only is imagination involved in representing desirable possibilities (a successful hunt depicted on a cave wall, say), but a story or a visual artwork produced for educational or religious reasons requires every bit as much imagination as one that is a product of "escapism".
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EP
9/8/2014 04:21:05 pm
So... Terry Melanson... In case anyone cares, Terry
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EP
9/8/2014 05:25:43 pm
If so, then no one cares about what you have to say about these important topics, so... you sure showed me, I guess...
Only Me
9/8/2014 07:49:34 pm
I care, Terry.
I specialize in the Bavarian Illuminati, and take its history seriously. So the answer is NO to all the aforementioned conspiracy theorists. They do not what they are talking about.
The conspiracy site is being reorganized. My research and methodology has matured. Basically the only authors I will be keeping on from the past is the Collins brothers and myself. All of the above linked to by anonymous will not be accessible anymore, and they currently aren't in the new design. Slowly it's being populated with choice selections from the past and new things when they are written.
THE ANTI-FEDERALIST PAPERS
9/11/2014 04:08:36 am
The Freemasonry practiced by Benjamin Franklin and George Washington changes after the presidency of James Monroe. The rise of the Anti-Masonic Party changes the political dialogue. It may very well be that Albert Pike totally invented a secret society that had no connection to the "rites" practiced by Revolutionary War era Freemasons, that bedeviled Parson Brownlow the governor of Tennessee, which led to Congressional Hearings concerning the instances of domestic terrorism committed in its early phase. Some scholars want to find a linkage that maybe isn;t...
EP
9/8/2014 07:23:56 pm
Also, Terry saw fit to publish this on his website (publish, not link!) just the other day:
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Trolled the entire site did ya, for jews or zion or the like, and that's all you could come up with. Poor poor mudslinger.
EP
9/9/2014 04:32:40 am
No, I came up with more stuff, but it's kinda repetitive *and* doesn't really have the punch of elves and fairies. You're still endorsing the work of people who consider the authenticity of the Protocols less important than their content (sort of like Jan Van Helsing). Also, when you say:
Clint Knapp
9/9/2014 05:21:32 am
"The Old Testament is replete with portraits of the coming Messiah. Discerning this thematic thread really allows us to see the divine inspiration in the writing of the Scriptures."
EP
9/9/2014 05:39:51 am
Totally, man!
EP
9/9/2014 06:11:03 am
Y'all really owe it to yourselves to read Terry Melanson's take on Michael Richards's infamous racist outburst:
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John
9/9/2014 06:28:56 am
These epistemology discussions are great. You can much better understand the reasoning behind crazy thoughts when you understand the history. Thanks Jason.
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666
9/9/2014 08:21:57 am
>>"The Old Testament is replete with portraits of the coming Messiah. Discerning this thematic thread really allows us to see the divine inspiration in the writing of the Scriptures."<<<
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EP
9/9/2014 08:54:54 am
Terry Melanson also has a soft, lighthearted side (as you would expect from a man who believes in fairies). For example, he was a runner-up in RENSE.COM's Halloween Splash Art Contest.
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Terry
9/9/2014 10:11:52 am
A cesspool insults. You hide behind an anonymous sig because you are ashamed to be associated with your behavior. Only a coward speaks to people that way.
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EP
9/9/2014 10:14:41 am
Please quote one insult I directed at you, Mr. "Does Your Shit Smell, EP, You Poor Mudslinger"?
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Terry
9/9/2014 10:17:25 am
Anonymous Coward.
EP
9/9/2014 10:23:29 am
Anger often follows denial. I hope you work though this and rethink your life. Otherwise, by persisting in associating with the people I mentioned you risk becoming one of the people Bro. Albert Pike described so eloquently:
Terry
9/9/2014 10:30:19 am
You're anonymous vile persona is a lie; or rather your real is and this is your true self.
EP
9/9/2014 10:33:30 am
Your last post is ungrammatical, so I'm not quite sure of what you're accusing me.
EP
9/9/2014 10:45:10 am
Also, I noticed you stopped linking to your website, Mr. Terry Melanson. Why is that?
Duckies, Duckies, Duckies...
9/11/2014 04:31:16 am
LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS. Rense got worse as the 1990s came
Terry
9/9/2014 10:48:02 am
Replying to anonymous cowards requires speed just to get it over with.
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EP
9/9/2014 10:52:37 am
You know, you haven't really replied to anything I said. What you're doing is worse than not replying at all. (At least I'm sure that's what most people would say...)
Terry
9/9/2014 10:56:19 am
Anonymous coward interrogates, demands answers. No film at 11 - he doesn't exist.
Clint Knapp
9/9/2014 05:03:27 pm
Anonymous or not, he's still right. You're the one leveling insults and stooping to name calling. All he's done is link to material you yourself are propagating. Material of incredibly dubious origin which rightly should call into question the motivations of those creating and spreading it.
EP
9/9/2014 05:20:33 pm
Jason, do you have any idea whether/how Bergier's letters to Weird Tales in 1936 and 1937 are related to his claim to have corresponded with Lovecraft? (I have not been able to find them in the actual issues of Weird Tales, but Joshi republished them somewhere, apparently.)
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9/10/2014 06:30:54 am
The letters in Weird Tales don't specifically mention any correspondence with Lovecraft. He had been reading Lovecraft since 1931 or 1932, having discovered "Weird Tales" at chez Gibert-Joseph. In 1936, he praised Lovecraft, and in September 1937 he wrote to mourn Lovecraft's death, stating that Lovecraft "has been so well received in France, because he was crying out against the absurdity of a scientific civilization encroaching upon man. [...] The passing of Lovecraft seems to me to mark an end of an epoch in the history of American imaginative fiction."
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EP
9/10/2014 06:40:53 am
Fortunately, Bergier's notes on Lovecraft are short and at least the most important one has been translated. He wrote a preface to a very important collection of French translations of Lovecraft. The preface has been reprinted separately more than once. (The collection, Démons et Merveilles, is actually cited in Morning of the Magicians. The preface, "H.P. Lovecraft, ce grand génie venu d'ailleurs", has been translated by Joshi as "Lovecraft: Genius, Outsider".) Your comment will be posted after it is approved.
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