Happening Now in "Who Really Built That?" Templars at the Newport Tower, a Lost Ice Age Civilization at Giza, and Australian Aborigines at Göbekli Tepe
Late last week novelist David S. Brody, who is a close colleague of former television personality Scott F. Wolter, posted on his blog what he called new information about the origins of the Old Stone Mill in Newport, Rhode Island, popularly known as the Newport Tower. Brody presented a quotation from Pocasset Wampanoag chief Daryl “Black Eagle” Jamieson, a younger man who has clearly been influenced by modern fringe history claims. Jamieson spoke with the Wolter/Brody wing of fringe history in 2015, and it is on his authority that Brody and Wolter claim that Native Americans have a centuries-old oral history of the medieval Earl Henry Sinclair of Orkney coming to America in the late 1300s. Specifically, here is what Black Eagle had to say in his own words:
The Narragansett history is that the people that built this Tower are people that came here with red hair... They were red-haired people building here and they were allowed to build here—allowed... To me, the only person that could have came (sic) here and gotten away with that is somebody that was brought here by another native tribe... They would have had to have had some kind of alliance... The only ones that I know that had that alliance were Henry Sinclair when he came and met with the Micmacs. The Knights Templar. They were the only legitimate people that could have come here and built this with the permission of the natives.
Wolter had made reference to this claim in 2015, but declined to identify the source pending the release of a future book or TV series. Brody, however, has given us more information than he intended to about the source of their elaborate conspiracy claims.
Note carefully that only the first two sentences are presented as history; the rest is Black Eagle’s own fringe history interpretation of it. I wouldn’t even trust that much as history going back to the Middle Ages due to the two centuries of local claims that the Newport Tower was built by Vikings, which is more than enough time for Native oral histories to absorb and adapt the local (white) legend, just as animals like the mammoth and dinosaurs entered into other oral histories after they became part of pop culture in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, and just as more than one Native American has added ancient astronauts to traditional stories after being exposed to Chariots of the Gods or Ancient Aliens. So far as I know, there is no record of Native American claims of red-headed tower builders prior to the past couple of decades, but it is nearly identical to Roger Williams’s (misleading) claims in the colonial era that the Native people of Narragansett were born with white skin and red hair. Indeed, it seems closer to truth to say that Black Eagle was referring to this history rather than an ancient tribal secret in relating claims about redheads in the Newport area.
For his part, yesterday, Wolter, a licensed geologist, alleged in comments on his blog that the Giza pyramids and the Great Sphinx are more than 10,000 years old. “The geological evidence presented by Dr. Robert Schoch has definitively proven the great Pyramids, and the Sphinx in Giza, are older than 10,000 years,” he wrote. Wolter’s rendition of the West-Schoch-Bauval-Hancock hypothesis is more extreme that those authors’ works support, and without evidence to back up his expansion of the Sphinx weathering claim to the pyramids, but this is only to be expected. What is stranger still is that this wasn’t the weirdest idea about 10,000-year-old monuments on offer this month.
The reliably bonkers English edition of the Epoch Times, a New York-based newspaper operated by Falun Gong practitioners to serve the anti-communist Chinese diaspora community, reported that Australian Aborigines built Göbekli Tepe, the 12,000-year-old temple complex in Turkey. According to the newspaper, our old friend Bruce Fenton, the Australian fringe writer once hired by the Science Channel to find giants and the coauthor of Ancient Aliens in Australia, alleges in New Dawn magazine that an Australian Aboriginal symbol appears on one of the stone pillars at the Turkish site.
The argument is essentially “looks like, therefore is,” and it remains as convincing as any other application of that faulty logic.
Specifically, Fenton compares simple geometric figures and declares them to be the same. Specifically, he posits that any circle divided in half with an additional shape placed between the two halves must have a common origin. He also suggests that oval-shaped stones carved with geometric figures in both locations must consequently have a common origin. The Göbekli Tepe symbol is 12,000 years old, while the Australian Aboriginal symbol’s origins are uncertain; the images in question used for the comparison date only to around 1900, though the symbol presumably predates its first recording.
Fenton ties his fantasized Aboriginal origins for geometric shapes to Graham Hancock’s hypothesis that Göbekli Tepe is an outpost of pre-Ice Age Atlantean culture, as filtered through the embarrassingly awful academic journal article from earlier this year that attempted to read the ancient pillars in light of Hancock’s and Andrew Collins’s work, claiming them to be a record of a comet impact during the Younger Dryas period.
“The purpose of the complex was to reverse the flooding underway during the Younger Dryas, by placating the Rainbow Serpent (they assumed this water deity was responsible),” Fenton told the Epoch Times by email.
For those of you interested in the finer details of the various symbols involved and why Fenton is wrong to compare them superficially—and Epoch Times is still more wrong to deceptively present photographs to make them look still more similar—Jens Notroff has a thorough discussion on the Göbekli Tepe Research Staff’s blog.
11/30/2017 10:45:21 am
Someone should interview Dr. Schoch and ask him what he thinks of the KRS. Scott claims they are buddies who have met each other a few times so why doesn't the good Dr. Schoch chime in with his thoughts on the KRS? I wondered why we didn't hear any comments from him after their meeting so it must not have gone good for Wolter. Schoch was not shy about shooting down Hancock's theories about Yonaguni (Sp?). I suspect Schoch would not like that fact that the runes had been cleaned by a nail and that the stone had been subjected to several castings prior to even Scott's analysis of the stone. So someone call Dr. Schoch and ask him straight up if the he thinks the stone is authentic. He obviously would have enough data to do this. It looks to me as if Wolter attempted to gain an ally and failed. I predict that Schoch would either pan his theories or refuse to comment.
11/30/2017 10:49:16 am
Thanks goodness you are here to interpret the Native American's oral history for them. Else, how would they know what to believe? Noblesse oblige, Jason?
11/30/2017 11:30:06 am
David. Just how accurate and reliable is oral history? No one wrote down any of this. Native Americans are just as susceptible to wrong information as anyone else. It does indeed sound like this Native American commentator watches the same TV shows you do and also believes them. Native American people are subject to the same mind games we are and in fact this is what has been happening to them since European people showed up in the New World. For a Native American to embrace the theory of the presence of Templars in America is kind of disrespectful to themselves valuing the advent of their doom. "Let's get them to worship us even though we destroyed them." What cracks me up is how the alt community trashed the Smithsonian for "stealing all the giant remains" while believing all of the same organizations ethnographers who recorded Native oral history that they then use to support their arguments of giants. So maybe you should look and see how closely your Native source matches what the ethnographers say. I'm sure we are now on track for them all to become Ascended Master's any day now. smh
1/1/2018 10:47:34 pm
Most Native Americans know damn well these stories are bunk and disrespectful to them and their ancestors, But this guy is Not a real Native American from a real Narragansett tribe. He is a Fake , wannabe indian chief, who is African American parading around with Scott Wolter to give him some legitimacy, for his outlandish claims. He needed a expert indian.
11/30/2017 11:31:16 am
David, are you saying such oral histories haven't been influenced by external sources, e.g., Christiantiy and science?
11/30/2017 11:41:50 am
I agree. Let's just forget that Verrazzano visited Narragansett Bay and did not note a tower being there. Ditto for Gosnold and Archer who visited the area in 1602. So both English and French sponsored explorers both chose to take part in this grand scheme to hide the presence of a stone tower in the future site of Newport at that time? None of this makes any sense at all and is based on the fact that all recorded history is a lie that can be shaped like Play doh. Oh my. Let's just forget about all the nineteenth century people who faked the presence of "Vikings" in New England as well (and got caught).
12/4/2017 02:07:10 pm
It's all easily explainable in a comprehensive and non-contradictory manner. Repeat after me:
11/30/2017 11:40:56 am
As you are an attorney Mr. Brody, surely you recognize the hazards in relying upon hearsay. But if you need to test how reliable "oral tradition" is, why don't you and your buddies try playing a game of telephone at your next shindig.
11/30/2017 12:09:43 pm
"why don't you and your buddies try playing a game of telephone at your next shindig." Not gonna happen while there are drizzly dowagers needing dazzling.
11/30/2017 01:13:33 pm
That's another David.
11/30/2017 01:45:03 pm
Or is it ????
11/30/2017 11:55:36 am
The problem, David, is that the story you've quoted Black Eagle as giving isn't oral history. The only part presented, indirectly, as that is the first part about redheads. For that to be genuine oral history, the remaining interpretative section cannot be oral history since the generalized claim of "redheads" does not allow for the transmission of the specific fact of Henry Sinclair arriving in 1398/1399. Therefore, if Black Eagle is filtering whatever preexisting story existed through "facts" lifted from fringe history, we are not justified in accepting the brief reference to redheads as a medieval survival without sources uncontaminated by the fringe history narrative.
11/30/2017 12:16:43 pm
1/1/2018 10:38:44 pm
This Chief Black Eagle is a fake Mixed blood Black and White mulatto. He is not from a federally recognized tribe of Native Americans, especially not a legit Narragansett tribe. He tells anyone who will listen he is solely of Scottish and Native American ancestry, and denies he is of African American ancestry. He has made a trip to Scotland to promote his Sir Henry Sinclair , New Port Tower, and Westford Knight Narrative. SCOTT Wolter uses es him as his expert Indian when he is not even Native American.
11/30/2017 11:04:20 am
The difference between Schoch and the mentioned hoodwinkers is that Schoch made a hypothesis based on his expertise and observations. He made it compelling enough for others to examine and offer counterarguments based on the same available evidence. Right or wrong, his hypothesis at least allows for a legitimate debate.
11/30/2017 11:57:31 am
Does the blog mention wether or not Chief Black Eagle has ever been intimate with a sex ape. I'm asking for purely scientific reasons.
11/30/2017 01:13:12 pm
Hard to say, perhaps The Black Shadow is a sex ape.
11/30/2017 12:04:51 pm
The Wampanoags intermarried heavily with non-Indians over the last two centuries or so. Doesn't look like much of any Wampanoag speech community has existed for over 100 years. So, any oral history traditions passed down over the last several generations would have to be taken with several grains of salt.
11/30/2017 06:02:44 pm
DocRock-- not a refutation of your comment, but they are trying. There are plenty of records available, but I don't know if it would be comprehensible to their ancestors. http://www.wlrp.org/
11/30/2017 08:14:37 pm
Yes, like many Native American groups they are involved in linguistic revival. But the fact that they have to do that after multiple generations as monolingual English speakers indicates a breakdown in inter-generational transmission of oral traditions.
12/1/2017 10:09:16 am
Jason, is the red hair statement dependent on this one informant, or not?
12/1/2017 03:05:53 pm
IF TRUE, it would be less wrong to say "The Five Nations appear to have remembered 'someone' as 'stonish giants'."
12/2/2017 09:02:09 am
12/2/2017 03:43:24 pm
You didn't read Cusick's book? Curious. You're usually so well informed. Yes, ate human flesh, and the pointer was a finger-shape bone implement which allowed them to find any desired object (game, hiding Injuns, etc.).
12/4/2017 02:07:52 pm
william m smith
12/3/2017 11:20:38 am
The Newport Tower in Rhode Island was built in 1472, by Portuguese and Danish fisherman, to process (smoke) and pack fish for European market, and identify the east land mark for Vinland. They also located the 1362 KRS to its proper location.
12/3/2017 04:40:38 pm
You have used the date "1472" in this discussion about the Newport Tower and also for the date used in the previous discussion about the KRS.
12/16/2017 12:43:52 pm
From looking at the Diffusions & Migrations website to which Jim posted a (WORKING) link, I see now that the Newport tower was a:
12/3/2017 12:16:01 pm
Where do you get the remarkably specific date 1472?
12/4/2017 08:17:33 am
I always wondered what the indigenous Australians did. Here for 50 or 60 thousand years. They had the first axe? They went to Gobekli Tepi apparently and also caused the death of the Australian megafauna. Pretty pleased with their progress they waited until the white man arrived who had the capability to make beer. End of their progress sadly. Beer and the white man did it for them!
12/4/2017 02:35:40 pm
I'm pretty sure they banged Jenny Agutter in her prime, so result!
12/9/2017 05:16:36 pm
"reliably bonkers" I LOVE IT!
3/4/2018 01:10:56 am
i am a viking and have been cursed with temporal imoretallity and servitude to the gods of the norse. Imbrace your christian belief and instruction. that is the only way out of the reality we have imbraced.
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