Note: Due to a number of obligations I have this week, my blog posts are going to be briefer than usual several days this week. I hope you don’t mind too much. Today I wanted to discuss a blog post on the Scientific American website by Abraham (Avi) Loeb, the chair of Harvard University’s astronomy department and a bunch of other impressive titles related to astrophysics. However, despite his extensive career, he is best known to the public for his 2018 claim that the anomalous interstellar object ‘Oumuamua could be a piece of alien technology. He wrote this weekend about the idea—so popular among ancient astronaut theorists—that advanced extraterrestrials would be indistinguishable from God. While he attributes the idea to a variation of Arthur C. Clarke’s third law (first proposed in 1973), regular readers will know that H. P. Lovecraft wrote stories about humans mistaking advanced space aliens for deities in the 1920s, and antecedents of the idea can be found in Theosophy decades before. More specifically, Loeb is concerned that humanity may not be prepared to recognize the space rock ‘Oumuamua as a piece of extraterrestrial technology, even if it were one, much as early humans would only have understood an iPhone as a shiny rock due to their lack of a suitable frame of reference. This is of course the same argument Erich von Däniken made in Chariots of the Gods when he suggested that humans did not have the vocabulary to correctly understand the wheels seen in Ezekiel’s divine vision as a flying saucer, and Loeb’s thought experiment is basically the same as von Däniken’s in Chariots imagining how primitive aliens might interpret NASA astronauts. It is also almost exactly the inverse of the crazy claim made by Jacques Bergier in Extraterrestrial Visitations from Prehistoric Times to the Present (1970; English trans. 1973) when he alleged that he had correctly understood a fragment of meteoric iron known as Dr. Gurlt’s Cube as “data collectors of the same type as magnetic bands, but much more highly perfected.” But as weird as it is to see a Harvard astrophysicist turning to the argument style of ancient astronaut theorists to speculate about ancient space alien technology, I was more concerned to see that Loeb doesn’t really seem to see the science as enough on its own. He repeatedly casts the questions of panspermia and interstellar colonization in moral terms. In one passage, he advocates for humanity “seeding” other planets with “life as we know it” to preserve “things we care about” from the destruction that nuclear weapons, climate change, etc. might bring about. That this pipe dream is a jeremiad about contemporary civilization rather than a plan for the future can be seen in the rather obvious fact that even if we did “seed” other planets, thanks to natural selection and the different environments found on even the most earthlike planets, whatever grows there over time will not be “things we care about,” unless you’re really hot for the four bases of DNA and some highly general biological principles. You can’t shoot seeds into space and get a planet of puppies and bunnies. But look at how he closes his post: If life was seeded artificially on Earth, one may wonder whether the seeders are checking on the outcome. And if so, the fact that we have not heard from them may indicate that they are disappointed. The experiment may have failed, or we are simply too slow to mature. Well, this may not come as a surprise given the irresponsible way we behave sometimes. Perhaps if we only knew that someone is looking over our shoulders, we would do better. It is not too late for us to find out, by using the best telescopes at our disposal. How would you know aliens are disappointed? Or that they could be? Maybe they are just dead. Or never existed in the first place. This isn’t science but morality. Loeb is openly stating that the aliens aren’t just indistinguishable from gods but a substitute for God. He seems to be projecting into the heavens a discontent he feels with the social and political challenges on the Earth, and is all but looking to recreate a disapproving Sky Father to provide a supernatural justification for the social and political changes that are not occurring by normal means.
Everyone knows scientists are human rather than purely rational robots, but it is weird to see the quasi-religious underpinnings of the search for aliens so openly acknowledged by someone who really ought to know better than to mix the facts about extraterrestrial life with an emotional longing for supernatural parental figures to solve humanity’s problems.
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Joe Scales
1/29/2019 11:15:09 am
And there's the rub. The ancient astronaut theory is a cool idea, and at its base it's just another query along the lines of who we are and why we're here which has been contemplated over the course of our existence. Enter religion, with all the answers. And now that religion is questioned more rigorously, that opens the door for others with answers. Just as wrong perhaps, and probably no better a way to organize society and keep us from killing each other.
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Bertha
1/29/2019 11:59:41 am
Aliens are not disappointed. They have simply been following the Prime Directive, also known as non-interference directive". The Prime Directive applies particularly to civilizations which are below a certain threshold of technological, scientific and cultural development; preventing starship crews from using their superior technology to impose their own values or ideals on them.
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An Anonymous Nerd
1/29/2019 11:25:40 pm
Even on Star Trek the Federation occasionally breaks the Prime Directive or screws up somehow and leaves stuff behind they shouldn't, or their cloaking devices drop unexpectedly, and such.
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Bertha
1/30/2019 03:25:27 am
Exactly how it is happening on Earth.
Rationalist
1/29/2019 01:06:55 pm
Life is a freak accident.
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V
1/30/2019 11:29:02 am
No. DNA is potential, not sole determinant. Environmental factors strongly play a role. While genetics puts down something of a base, experience does far, far more to shape one's reactions than genetics. Ted Bundy was a product of nature AND nurture, not solely "nature." He was not predetermined from birth to be a serial killer; he still made the choice to do it. There will never be an easy DNA scan to determine criminality, the way your stance implies, because it's already well known that every serial killer has a "trigger" event. No trigger, no serial killer. And that definitively busts the "DNA is the sole determinant" hypothesis.
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Uncle Ron
1/29/2019 02:22:46 pm
This idea that space aliens are/could be more "moral" than we Earthlings is a pipedream. We created our ideas of morality to suit our needs. They are not innate in the universe at large.
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RATIONALIST
1/29/2019 02:36:14 pm
The space aliens could come to evangelise Planet Earth into their religion, and in the process wipe out Earth's population with its imported diseases - something similar happened between Cortes and Montezuma.
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Shane Sullivan
1/29/2019 02:41:45 pm
But not before we give them syphilis.
Jim
1/29/2019 03:39:26 pm
Speak for yourself.
David Evans
1/29/2019 05:42:02 pm
We only have one example of the evolution of technically skilled intelligent life. The principle of mediocrity suggests that if there are other examples, some of them at least will be better than us. It's been suggested that if a carnivorous species evolved intelligence it would have better mechanisms than we do to avoid killing each other. Or a species otherwise like us might have evolved in an environment which placed a higher premium on co-operation.
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V
1/30/2019 11:36:59 am
We have at least three. We only have one that's still LIVING. Don't really have any evidence that our ancestors saw Neanderthals as gods, nor that Neanderthals were more moral than h. sap. Don't think we ever will, since morality is at least partially relative, so what WE think of as "greater morality" might be seen as the worst of sinners by some other group. Hell, that happens right on our own planet--conservative Christians finding homosexuality to be a horrendous damning sin, and others seeing hating people for being gay as the depths of sin. That kind of clash is honestly far more likely than "they are perfect in their morals." Or else, what a friend of mine used to call "blue and apple morality"--the questions that concern the two groups on a moral reasoning level are just completely foreign to one another and can't even be compared.
An Anonymous Nerd
1/29/2019 11:23:53 pm
[morality which, on this planet, generally means allowing weaker members of our species to survive at the expense of the strong ones]
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Accumulated Wisdom
1/29/2019 04:42:37 pm
This is the result of tax shelters like LDS, and Scientology with their combined load of Kolob. Mix in some Von Darnicant, Sitchin, and Astronomy personifications taken literally. Dollah, Dollah bill, Yo!
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RATIONALIST
1/29/2019 04:53:52 pm
And Noah sold all the excess water after the Flood.
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Accumulated Wisdom
1/29/2019 05:15:33 pm
You don't have access to PBS?
Antiquarian Cool "Disco" Dan
1/29/2019 06:15:34 pm
Anthony, you are a a two-legged hangover. I don't speak Off-my-meds but I will try: Your tortellini makes me anxious. FACT!
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Accumulated Wisdom
1/29/2019 08:38:29 pm
Did the All Knowing One, not know the height of ALL Gothic Cathedrals is 144 units?
Anthropomorphic Cool "Disco"Dan
1/29/2019 09:06:00 pm
The height of every object in the universe is "144 units" provioded the mental patient picks the right units.
Accumulated Wisdom
1/29/2019 09:26:39 pm
The diameter of the Moon is 2160 miles. 2160 years in one Great Month
Acerbic Cool "Disco" Dan
1/29/2019 10:21:13 pm
P Prove your
And Another Thing Cool "Disco" Dan
1/29/2019 11:52:05 pm
And where do you get this "pentadic numbers" thing? If there were pentadic (runic) numbers on the Newport Tower Wolter would have mentioned it.
Accumulated Wisdom
1/30/2019 02:00:35 am
Probably because, I just shared some of them with Patrick Shekelton yesterday. After following the links, he has provided for FREE, I came across his posting of Pentadic numbers on the Tower dating back to 1946! This is when, I knew what I had been seeing glimpses of for years, was ACTUALLY THERE!
Ambiguous Cool "Disco" Dan
1/30/2019 02:49:51 am
So imaginary links in your mind?
Joe Scales
1/30/2019 09:59:09 am
"The Loony, Idiot, or whatever name you and Joey Putz have called me."
V
1/30/2019 11:49:14 am
Um....no? NOT fact? I mean, you say you saw something on PBS, but I took actual art history classes and researched this. The guiding principles of Gothic architecture were height and light, to invoke the grandeur of God, particularly with the advent of stained glass window making. The Gothic builders didn't really care about how many "units high" it was,they only cared about how much colored light they could let in, and about the interior having the shape of a cross with the altar in the crossing. The concept of church-as-overturned-ark is a significantly more modern one. Post-Renaissance, at a minimum, where the concept of "sacred geometry" was "perfect" circles and squares.
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An Anonymous Nerd
1/29/2019 11:17:13 pm
Sadly there's no ability to comment on that blog that I can find. Perhaps this fellow is not aware of the bad company his ramblings are keeping and I would have loved to have informed him in public.
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David Evans
1/30/2019 11:18:53 am
Portable phones are evolving in the direction of fewer obvious interfaces (wireless charging, no audio socket, wi-fi transmission of pictures). It might not be at all obvious what the function of a dead one was. Something might look the same and be a radiation meter, a vital signs monitor, an artificial telepathy interface...
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An Anonymous Nerd
1/30/2019 06:46:08 pm
All of which we could understand, given time and context. Hell even "tool to do something we don't do" is not the same as "shiny rock." Or "magic."
V
1/30/2019 11:54:16 am
Honest truth? I suspect that prehistoric man would not have seen it as "a shiny rock," either. A magic talisman,maybe. A magic crystal, perhaps. But a phone does not look anything like a mere rock, and I just can't see it being described as one, even if you don't have a word for "phone."
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An Anonymous Nerd
1/30/2019 06:42:10 pm
That is a good point.
bkd69
1/30/2019 04:04:41 am
"More specifically, Loeb is concerned that humanity may not be prepared to recognize the space rock ‘Oumuamua as a piece of extraterrestrial technology, even if it were one, much as early humans would only have understood an iPhone as a shiny rock due to their lack of a suitable frame of reference. "
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V
1/30/2019 11:58:02 am
I THINK he was trying to say that it might be so far advanced that we might simply not notice that it functions in some way, a bit like not noticing that a decorative rock is actually a security camera. That we might not think it's technology because we use straight-line circuits in wire and electricity, instead of, say, crystal matrices and magnetic resonance. Which is still kind of silly and shows that there's quite a bit of science fiction and even science FACT that he's never been exposed to...
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William Fitzgerald
1/30/2019 06:06:26 am
"How would you know aliens are disappointed? Or that they could be? Maybe they are just dead. Or never existed in the first place. This isn’t science but morality."
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David Evans
1/30/2019 11:25:36 am
"My favorite is the predator civilization"
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Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 06:15:49 am
To all those concerned,
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Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 06:59:51 am
It is fact... Norwegians came to America. Mixed with Indians. Returned to Europe as Swedes.
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Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 07:49:56 am
Date this Swedish fact, and the professionally acknowledged visitations to America are easily surpassed and destroyed.
Joe Scales
1/30/2019 09:55:52 am
From the Rules of The Internet:
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 12:33:30 pm
Swedes in Sweden are not American Swedes. The American Swedes lost in 791 AD and were kicked out and thought dead. They came from, and went back to America. It's in your history books, try reading it.
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 12:38:50 pm
Runes had not been used in 1000 years when the stone was carved. Person who inscribed the runes had knowledge of three to four Swedish languages at the time of dating. An Era and Time at which runes were no longer used. That wasn't in the report.
V
1/30/2019 12:12:07 pm
No one is concerned. KRS is a hoax. It's that simple.
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Jim
1/30/2019 12:34:54 pm
Exactly !!
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 12:46:04 pm
Jason makes a living off caring about KRS.
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 12:59:01 pm
Let me put it all into perspective for a moment so as to test the limits of your mind.
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 01:00:57 pm
It is a conspiracy.
Joe Scales
1/30/2019 01:04:39 pm
Batshit crazy, an imbecile and an anti-Semite to boot.
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 01:08:52 pm
Why do you think the Templars were trying to bring people back to Israel? Answer- they are the original Jews.
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 01:11:08 pm
How can I be an anti-Semite? I am one. Am I against myself?
Eirik Sinclair
1/30/2019 01:38:51 pm
Stepping away... can be considered a hate crime.
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Trygaeus
3/1/2019 05:54:02 pm
I saw this post catching up on your blog, Jason, and I can't help pointing out that your description and critique of Loeb is literally the plot to the movie Prometheus:
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